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aussie09

JANUARY 2015


results from mtts with guarantees of £500 and over played on 1 january.

2,178 players in 20 games

	Points	played	score	1st	2nd	3rd	FT	cash	Q1
1	ALLEYKITTY	7	17	1			1	3	6
2	Ozzy1000	9	17	1			1	3	6
3	bearlyther	7	17			1	3	3	6
4	TommyD	4	15		1	1	2	2	3
5	rspca12	7	14	1			1	1	5
6	Mickyxx	4	13	1			1	2	3
7	SoLack	7	13	1			1	2	3
8	IRONZ	4	12	1			1	1	3
9	welp	2	12			2	2	2	2
10	baddunn	5	11	1			1	1	2
11	rizlakid18	5	11	1			1	1	2
12	barneyk	1	10	1			1	1	1
13	chewyman	2	10	1			1	1	1
14	goodegg57	4	10	1			1	1	1
15	HAYSIE	5	10	1			1	1	1
16	Hwarren7	1	10	1			1	1	1
17	kimnmick	1	10	1			1	1	1
18	KOBAC	1	10	1			1	1	1
19	Richiegone	4	10	1			1	1	1
20	scotty77	4	10	1			1	1	1
21	shrike28	3	10	1			1	1	1
22	Wilton	1	10	1			1	1	1
23	zadoc	2	10	1			1	1	1

Points per game; 1st=10 pts, 2nd=8pts, 3rd=6pts, FT=4pts, cash=2pts, Q1=1pt.

	Profit	played	buy-ins	returns	profit
1	KOBAC	1	33	2,622	2,589
2	TommyD	4	149	1,714	1,566
3	scotty77	4	105	946	841
4	flyrod	1	33	804	771
5	ALLEYKITTY	7	149	846	698
6	DEKKER5207	1	33	718	685
7	chewyman	2	17	677	661
8	BRAHER	3	99	698	599
9	BARADAKAS	1	33	562	529
10	mrparish82	4	61	575	515

unknown_username

great idea Rob gl with this and hope all support ;'))

aussie09

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great idea Rob gl with this and hope all support ;'))
Posted by j3ono

thanks j3ono ... we'll see how it goes.

TheDart

I hope you can keep this going through the year as I find these kind of records very interesting, (don't know what that say's about me, mind you).

I'm sure there's plenty of 'interesting facts' within the data and I'll be doing my own dissection over a morning coffee or two when I get the chance.

Have you found collating this data has helped you improve your own game?

Having a clearer insight into what equates as a winning and profitable player on SkyPoker must help?

As I may not appear on your 'leaderboards', so in attempt to make myself a little more results orientated, I've decided to keep tab of my own results, so I can try and close the gap on those players that are more successful.

With a clean slate for 2015, first simple targets for me are taken from your 'Winners' table, of course there are exceptions to the rules, but I have deduced that a 2% win rate and 15% cash rate, are goals I want to be closing in on.

aussie09

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I hope you can keep this going through the year as I find these kind of records very interesting, (don't know what that say's about me, mind you). I'm sure there's plenty of 'interesting facts' within the data and I'll be doing my own dissection over a morning coffee or two when I get the chance. Have you found collating this data has helped you improve your own game? Having a clearer insight into what equates as a winning and profitable player on SkyPoker must help? As I may not appear on your 'leaderboards' I've decided to keep tab of my own results, so I can try and close the gap on the leaderboards, in attempt to make myself a little more results orientated. With a clean slate for 2015, first simple targets for me are taken from your 'Winners' table, of course there are exceptions to the rules, but I have deduced that a 2% win rate and 15% cash rate, are goals I want to be closing in on.
Posted by TheDart

hi darty,

i am intending publishing tables throughout january to see if they are of interest.  there are so many different ways of looking at the numbers though. 

i have been doing so for years now and rather than improving my game i look at it as preventing my game from deteriorating.  i can see who the better players are, as this is results orientated analysis.  i try to avoid them (including you) and now only need to find a way to hide on a table.

for you, i would think that a cashing rate above 20% is good.  your current rate is an aspiration for me.  the win percentage is dependant upon average field size but 1% for last year's mtts i analysed would be good.  for 2015 i will look at twice as many tournaments and now include the below £1,000 guaranteed games down to the £500 guaranteed games.  the consequence is that the average field size will come down and the aspirational win rate is increased a little.

but the funny thing is that it doesn't stop being rivered.

good luck again this year.  good to play you last night.  and did i say thanks for the chips?

rob

jordz16

Yeah i certainly enjoy reading the figures too, I looked at a similar set of results last year on another site and noticed I was finishing 3/4/5 far more often than i was finishing 1/2 that made me realise i was obviously not deploying optimal MTT strategy... that was something i worked on this year and now im over the moon to see I have fixed that leak and now finish 1-2 a lot more often.... without this sort of data it isnt something you would probably ever realise was a leak in your game.. 

so definitely very thankful of the work aussie

aussie09

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Yeah i certainly enjoy reading the figures too, I looked at a similar set of results last year on another site and noticed I was finishing 3/4/5 far more often than i was finishing 1/2 that made me realise i was obviously not deploying optimal MTT strategy... that was something i worked on this year and now im over the moon to see I have fixed that leak and now finish 1-2 a lot more often.... without this sort of data it isnt something you would probably ever realise was a leak in your game..  so definitely very thankful of the work aussie
Posted by jordz16

cheers jordz.

your progress has been good to see over the past three years.  ending 2014 with 3 ukops wins was good but reveals a major leak in your game in that you didn't win the other 30 ukops games.

good luck this year.

TheDart

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In Response to Re: * * * MTT leagues * * * : hi darty, i am intending publishing tables throughout january to see if they are of interest.  there are so many different ways of looking at the numbers though.  i have been doing so for years now and rather than improving my game i look at it as preventing my game from deteriorating.  i can see who the better players are, as this is results orientated analysis.  i try to avoid them (including you) and now only need to find a way to hide on a table. for you, i would think that a cashing rate above 20% is good.  your current rate is an aspiration for me.  the win percentage is dependant upon average field size but 1% for last year's mtts i analysed would be good.  for 2015 i will look at twice as many tournaments and now include the below £1,000 guaranteed games down to the £500 guaranteed games.  the consequence is that the average field size will come down towards 100 and the aspirational win rate is increased a little. but the funny thing is that it doesn't stop being rivered. good luck again this year.  good to play you last night.  and did i say thanks for the chips? rob
Posted by aussie09

I'm not sure you said thanks exactly, but none the less I was pleased to see you put them to good use and picked up another 8 heads and an FT. Not bad at all.

Anything you publish will be of interest.

Nice work, on and off the tables.

aussie09

JANUARY


3,579 players in 40 games

	Points	played	score	1st	2nd	3rd	FT	cash	Q1
1	rabbit11	11	35	2	1	1	4	4	5
2	bearlyther	14	31	1		1	4	6	9
3	StayOrGo	23	24	1			3	5	7
4	baddunn	13	23	1	1		3	3	4
5	ALLEYKITTY	16	23	1			2	4	9
6	terrytwomore	28	23		2		2	3	8
7	SoLack	14	21	1			2	4	7
8	TommyD	8	21		1	1	3	4	5
9	Ozzy1000	17	20	1			1	4	8
10	HAYSIE	13	18	1	1		2	2	2
11	gazscoop	6	18		1	1	2	4	4
12	nslater112	25	18				1	6	10
13	BO	6	16	1		1	2	2	2
14	Mickyxx	13	16	1			1	3	5
15	heddoh18	6	16		1	1	2	2	4
16	scotty77	10	15	1			2	2	3
17	rspca12	14	15	1			1	1	6
18	cowhead	9	15		1		2	3	4
19	coolRmike	4	14	1			1	3	3
20	LmfaoAllin	21	14		1		1	2	6

Points per game; 1st=10 pts, 2nd=8pts, 3rd=6pts, FT=4pts, cash=2pts, Q1=1pt.

	Profit	played	buy-ins	returns	profit
1	KOBAC	3	121	2,708	2,587
2	bishspur	1	33	2,240	2,207
3	TommyD	8	297	1,898	1,601
4	gazscoop	6	88	1,360	1,272
5	MonkeyGLB	1	55	1,165	1,110
6	scotty77	10	286	1,388	1,102
7	flyrod	2	66	893	827
8	Xstation	1	33	850	817
9	rabbit11	11	155	916	761
10	marnell96	2	44	732	688

aussie09

JANUARY


4,504 players in 60 games

	Points	played	score	1st	2nd	3rd	FT	cash	Q1
1	rabbit11	20	35	2	1	1	4	4	5
2	SoLack	22	31	1	1		3	6	9
3	bearlyther	14	31	1		1	4	6	9
4	TommyD	12	31		1	2	4	7	8
5	baddunn	20	30	1	1	1	4	4	6
6	GSmith13	40	30		1		2	8	14
7	HAYSIE	19	28	2	1		3	3	3
8	ALLEYKITTY	23	26	1			2	4	12
9	Ozzy1000	22	26	1			1	7	11
10	terrytwomore	38	26		2		2	4	10
11	StayOrGo	28	25	1			3	5	8
12	nslater112	37	21				1	7	12
13	LmfaoAllin	31	20		1		1	4	10
14	BO	9	19	1		1	2	3	4
15	sedgwick11	4	18	1		1	2	3	3
16	shirley02	15	18	1			2	3	5
17	gazscoop	6	18		1	1	2	4	4
18	Mickyxx	19	17	1			1	3	6
19	rspca12	20	17	1			1	2	7
20	RandomLone	9	16	1			2	3	3

points per game; 1st=10 pts, 2nd=8pts, 3rd=6pts, FT=4pts, cash=2pts, Q1=1pt.

	Profit	played	buy-ins	returns	profit
1	KOBAC	5	209	2,768	2,559
2	bishspur	4	83	2,492	2,410
3	Savvy_79	6	209	2,535	2,326
4	TommyD	12	446	2,342	1,896
5	gazscoop	6	88	1,360	1,272
6	MonkeyGLB	1	55	1,165	1,110
7	scotty77	10	286	1,388	1,102
8	kstar8008	1	33	1,111	1,078
9	ttdbx	3	121	1,188	1,067
10	Xstation	2	66	850	784

	Cashed	played	no	rate %
1	TommyD	12	7	58
2	bearlyther	14	6	43
3	Ozzy1000	22	7	32
4	haddock214	10	3	30
5	luckme002	18	5	28
6	SoLack	22	6	27
7	wattsee01	11	3	27
8	tech34	11	3	27
9	HOLLYWHIT	11	3	27
10	twoods810	12	3	25

played a minimum of 10 games




 

aussie09

JANUARY


5,024 players in 80 tournaments

	Winners	played	1st	2nd	3rd	FT	cash
1	rabbit11	21	2	1	1	4	4
2	HAYSIE	25	2	1		3	4
3	StayOrGo	39	2			5	7
4	Savvy_79	9	2			3	3
5	baddunn	20	1	1	1	4	4
6	SoLack	29	1	1		3	6
7	cowhead	11	1	1		3	4
8	ozzieowen	5	1	1		2	2
9	bearlyther	20	1		1	4	6
10	scotty77	16	1		1	3	3
11	Ozzy1000	26	1		1	2	8
12	BO	9	1		1	2	3
13	sedgwick11	5	1		1	2	3
14	GLASSBOY	17	1			4	5
15	ALLEYKITTY	23	1			2	4
16	shirley02	18	1			2	4
17	goodegg57	8	1			2	3
18	RandomLone	9	1			2	3
19	sandhu05	7	1			2	2
20	benbash91	14	1			1	4

	Points	played	score	1st	2nd	3rd	FT	cash	Q1
1	GSmith13	55	43		1		5	11	18
2	StayOrGo	39	39	2			5	7	10
3	rabbit11	21	35	2	1	1	4	4	5
4	SoLack	29	33	1	1		3	6	11
5	bearlyther	20	33	1		1	4	6	11
6	Ozzy1000	26	33	1		1	2	8	13
7	TommyD	16	33		1	2	4	7	10
8	HAYSIE	25	30	2	1		3	4	4
9	baddunn	20	30	1	1	1	4	4	6
10	GLASSBOY	17	28	1			4	5	9
11	gazscoop	10	27		2	1	3	5	6
12	ALLEYKITTY	23	26	1			2	4	12
13	terrytwomore	38	26		2		2	4	10
14	PhilAny2_Q	10	26			2	5	6	6
15	cowhead	11	25	1	1		3	4	5
16	Savvy_79	9	24	2			3	3	3
17	scotty77	16	24	1		1	3	3	7
18	LmfaoAllin	39	22		1		1	4	12
19	nslater112	42	22				1	7	13
20	rspca12	26	21	1			1	3	10

points per game; 1st=10 pts, 2nd=8pts, 3rd=6pts, FT=4pts, cash=2pts, Q1=1pt.


<td class="xl74" height="20" style="height:15pt;font-size:8pt;color:black;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;fo

	Profit	played	buy-ins	returns	profit
1	style2737	1	110	6,228	6,118
2	lolufold	1	110	3,713	3,603
3	Savvy_79	9	297	3,372	3,075
4	KOBAC	5	209	2,768	2,559
5	bishspur	5	94	2,492	2,399
6	chicknMelt	2	165	2,233	2,068
7	TommyD	16	677	2,384	1,707
8	lamunique	1	110	1,763	1,653
9	gazscoop	10	149	1,563	1,414
10	TheDart	14	385	1,679	1,294
11	scotty77	16	550	1,712	1,162
12	MonkeyGLB	1	55	1,165	1,110
13	ttdbx	3	121	1,188	1,067
14	kstar8008	2	143	1,111	968
15	bigboyrule	3	165	1,088	923

aussie09

JANUARY


5,516 players in 99 tournaments

	Winners	played	1st	2nd	3rd	FT	cash
1	rabbit11	26	2	1	1	4	6
2	HAYSIE	29	2	1		3	4
3	bearlyther	27	2		1	6	8
4	StayOrGo	49	2			6	8
5	Savvy_79	12	2			3	3
6	baddunn	21	1	1	1	4	4
7	SoLack	36	1	1		3	7
8	cowhead	11	1	1		3	4
9	ozzieowen	9	1	1		2	3
10	scotty77	20	1		1	4	4
11	Ozzy1000	33	1		1	3	10
12	Aek101	21	1		1	2	3
13	BO	12	1		1	2	3
14	sedgwick11	5	1		1	2	3
15	GLASSBOY	18	1			4	5
16	ALLEYKITTY	29	1			2	4
17	shirley02	24	1			2	4
18	RandomLone	10	1			2	4
19	paddy719	15	1			2	3
20	rizlakid18	19	1			2	3

	Points	played	score	1st	2nd	3rd	FT	cash	Q1
1	GSmith13	69	76		3	1	9	18	26
2	bearlyther	27	47	2		1	6	8	13
3	StayOrGo	49	44	2			6	8	12
4	Ozzy1000	33	40	1		1	3	10	16
5	rabbit11	26	39	2	1	1	4	6	7
6	SoLack	36	37	1	1		3	7	14
7	TommyD	19	33		1	2	4	7	10
8	terrytwomore	44	32		2		3	5	13
9	HAYSIE	29	30	2	1		3	4	4
10	baddunn	21	30	1	1	1	4	4	6
11	PhilAny2_Q	14	30			2	6	7	7
12	scotty77	20	28	1		1	4	4	8
13	GLASSBOY	18	28	1			4	5	9
14	ALLEYKITTY	29	28	1			2	4	14
15	gazscoop	13	27		2	1	3	5	6
16	Wacko90	24	26		1	1	3	5	9
17	LmfaoAllin	49	26		1		1	5	15
18	cowhead	11	25	1	1		3	4	5
19	Smilodon	25	25		1		3	5	10
20	Savvy_79	12	24	2			3	3	3

points per game; 1st=10 pts, 2nd=8pts, 3rd=6pts, FT=4pts, cash=2pts, Q1=1pt.


<td class="xl74" height="20" style="height:15pt;font-size:8pt;color:black;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;f

	Profit	played	buy-ins	returns	profit
1	style2737	1	110	6,228	6,118
2	lolufold	1	110	3,713	3,603
3	Savvy_79	12	407	3,417	3,010
4	KOBAC	5	209	2,768	2,559
5	bishspur	7	132	2,504	2,372
6	chicknMelt	6	297	2,462	2,165
7	starfox	1	33	2,107	2,074
8	lamunique	1	110	1,763	1,653
9	TommyD	19	770	2,386	1,616
10	scotty77	20	699	2,072	1,373
11	gazscoop	13	199	1,567	1,368
12	TheDart	19	468	1,703	1,235
13	MonkeyGLB	1	55	1,165	1,110
14	ttdbx	3	121	1,188	1,067
15	SJspanky1	8	116	1,175	1,059

FlashFlush

Loving the work Aussie. Nice speedy updates.

Think i should be close to making the top 20 but when I Sharkscope myself it says I haven't played a single game with a guarentee over £1000 which is a lie! Just wondering if you could look into it and see what my actualy stats are...

Cheers

aussie09

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Loving the work Aussie. Nice speedy updates. Think i should be close to making the top 20 but when I Sharkscope myself it says I haven't played a single game with a guarentee over £1000 which is a lie! Just wondering if you could look into it and see what my actualy stats are... Cheers
Posted by FlashFlush

thanks flashy.


i will have a look at your figures...

you have played 21 games of the 99 so far this year that have a guarantee over £500.  contrary to sharkscope, all your 21 games are in tournaments with a guarantee of £1,000+. 

as far as winning you have 1 third place, 2 final tables and have cashed 3 times.  this ranks you at 190th out of 5,516 unique players.  points-wise you are ranked 74th.

money-wise you have buy-ins of £418 and returns of £914 (rank 31st) making a profit of £496 (rank 41st) from 21 games.  this is an ROI of 119%.

you have cashed in 3 games (rank 132nd) which is 15% (rank 125th) of your games played, taken 22 heads (rank 93rd) and not bubbled.



i guess.




 

FlashFlush

Good work sir. Clearly not quite as good as I thought. Must try harder!

aussie09

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Good work sir. Clearly not quite as good as I thought. Must try harder!
Posted by FlashFlush

funny.


mbn .... top 4%




 

cowhead

Hi Aussie. Firstly, great work with the stats. Reading the tables it's really giving me the urge to play more.

Secondly, looking at the points table I have a couple of questions.

What is the Q1 stat? 

I'm assuming it means you finished deep in the tournament but failed to cash, is that right?

If so, I'm wondering what value it has being there as you may Aswell finish last as deep without a cash ft or win. 

If not, ignore question 2.

aussie09

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Hi Aussie. Firstly, great work with the stats. Reading the tables it's really giving me the urge to play more. Secondly, looking at the points table I have a couple of questions. What is the Q1 stat?  I'm assuming it means you finished deep in the tournament but failed to cash, is that right? If so, I'm wondering what value it has being there as you may Aswell finish last as deep without a cash ft or win.  If not, ignore question 2.
Posted by cowhead

hi cowhead (good name)

thanks

the Q1 stat is a count of finishes in the top quarter, the top 25%.   when seen alongside the cashes, the top 12%, it helps to quantify how good a player really is.  it gives a fuller picture, even to indicate who will play a tight game early on in an mtt.  it also becomes useful when considering strike rates.  the points table is really a view of ability, whereas achievement is illustrated better in other tables.

cheers

aussie09

JANUARY


6,082 players in 119 tournaments

	Winners	played	1st	2nd	3rd	FT	cash
1	rabbit11	31	3	1	1	5	8
2	HAYSIE	32	2	1		3	5
3	bearlyther	27	2		1	6	8
4	StayOrGo	59	2			6	9
5	Savvy_79	14	2			3	3
6	terrytwomore	53	1	2		5	7
7	cjy	18	1	2		4	4
8	baddunn	23	1	1	1	5	5
9	SoLack	42	1	1	1	4	9
10	cowhead	14	1	1		3	4
11	Gambelo	12	1	1		2	3
12	ozzieowen	9	1	1		2	3
13	scotty77	24	1		2	5	5
14	Aek101	30	1		2	4	6
15	sedgwick11	9	1		2	3	4
16	Ozzy1000	34	1		1	3	10
17	BO	12	1		1	2	3
18	DESPARADO	15	1		1	2	2
19	gavpidge	4	1		1	2	2
20	bigboyrule	7	1		1	2	2
21	mak68	10	1		1	2	2
22	GLASSBOY	20	1			4	5
23	tinytellah	45	1			3	9
24	ALLEYKITTY	35	1			3	5
25	PRO3000	9	1			3	4

	Points	played	score	1st	2nd	3rd	FT	cash	Q1
1	GSmith13	82	86		3	1	11	20	30
2	rabbit11	31	51	3	1	1	5	8	9
3	StayOrGo	59	49	2			6	9	16
4	terrytwomore	53	48	1	2		5	7	17
5	bearlyther	27	47	2		1	6	8	13
6	SoLack	42	45	1	1	1	4	9	16
7	Ozzy1000	34	40	1		1	3	10	16
8	Aek101	30	36	1		2	4	6	12
9	baddunn	23	34	1	1	1	5	5	7
10	scotty77	24	34	1		2	5	5	9
11	tinytellah	45	34	1			3	9	13
12	ALLEYKITTY	35	33	1			3	5	16
13	TommyD	19	33		1	2	4	7	10
14	natry20111	21	33		1	2	4	7	10
15	HAYSIE	32	32	2	1		3	5	5
16	cjy	18	32	1	2		4	4	6
17	rspca12	40	31	1			2	6	15
18	PhilAny2_Q	17	30			2	6	7	7
19	poker69	40	30			1	6	7	9
20	TheDart	28	29		1	2	4	4	9
21	nslater112	56	29				2	9	16
22	GLASSBOY	20	28	1			4	5	9
23	gazscoop	19	28		2	1	3	5	7
24	Jonno02	23	28		1	1	4	6	8
25	Smilodon	31	27		1		3	6	11

points per game; 1st=10 pts, 2nd=8pts, 3rd=6pts, FT=4pts, cash=2pts, Q1=1pt.


<td class="xl71" style="border:medium none;background:none repe

	Profit	played	buy-ins	returns	profit
1	style2737	1	110	6,228	6,118
2	lolufold	1	110	3,713

aussie09

as the number of tournaments played reaches a fair size it become possible to look at a qualitative table, average points per game.  it is still early days nevertheless this table shows those showing consistent good ability.

	Points	played	no	rate
1	heddoh18	13	26	2.0
2	Gambelo	12	23	1.9
3	chicknMelt	10	19	1.9
4	ChirpyChip	10	19	1.9
5	cowhead	14	26	1.9
6	brinna12	10	18	1.8
7	RandomLone	10	18	1.8
8	Savvy_79	14	25	1.8
9	cjy	18	32	1.8
10	PhilAny2_Q	17	30	1.8
11	bearlyther	27	47	1.7
12	TommyD	19	33	1.7
13	mak68	10	17	1.7
14	mwstachio	10	17	1.7
15	RUNITSRANN	10	17	1.7
16	rabbit11	31	51	1.6
17	supakings	10	16	1.6
18	BO	12	19	1.6
19	natry20111	21	33	1.6
20	axle262	11	17	1.5
21	Bowlwinner	11	17	1.5
22	mickjenn1	11	17	1.5
23	telstar1	12	18	1.5
24	bishspur	10	15	1.5
25	baddunn	23	34	1.5

points per game; 1st=10 pts, 2nd=8pts, 3rd=6pts, FT=4pts, cash=2pts, Q1=1pt.
played a minimum of 10 tournaments





 

Tikay10

Loving your work here, Rob, well done & thank you.

aussie09

In Response to Re: * * * MTT leagues * * *:

Loving your work here, Rob, well done & thank you.
Posted by Tikay10

thanks tikay.

you and i still do not feature in any of these tables.  one day, one day.



 

TheDart

Early days as you say.

Looking at your qualitative table, those are some pretty impressive rates there.

When the volume reaches say a minimum of 200 games, it would appear that a rate of +1.0 would be outstanding.

Do you have a benchmark rate or 'rate range' that would suggest a player is at the point of break even to profit?

Of course there will be exceptions to the rule(s), but using your points system, I was wondering if over time you know what sort of rate equates to winning players on the site?

aussie09

In Response to Re: * * * MTT leagues * * *:

Early days as you say. Looking at your qualitative table, those are some pretty impressive rates there. When the volume reaches say a minimum of 200 games, it would appear that a rate of +1.0 would be outstanding. Do you have a benchmark rate or 'rate range' that would suggest a player is at the point of break even to profit? Of course there will be exceptions to the rule(s), but using your points system, I was wondering if over time you know what sort of rate equates to winning players on the site?
Posted by TheDart

yes, over 1.0 would be outstanding and more than likely profitable.

the points system is used to try and give some sense to compare players in games with a number of variables field size, buy-ins, quality of opponent etc. and eliminate some of the luck element.

last year, i looked solely at £1k+ gtd games with average field size over 200 players. this year, i am including £500+ gtd mtts meaning that the average field size is lower, probably 150 players.  a field size of 150 will distribute 80 points (equating to 0.6) and with skypoker's rake, say 10% (0.1), the breakeven is around 0.7.

profitable players will have scores starting around 0.8.





 

TheDart

In Response to Re: * * * MTT leagues * * *:

In Response to Re: * * * MTT leagues * * * : yes, over 1.0 would be outstanding and more than likely profitable. the points system is used to try and give some sense to compare players in games with a number of variables field size, buy-ins, quality of opponent etc. and eliminate some of the luck element. last year, i looked solely at £1k+ gtd games with average field size over 200 players. this year, i am including £500+ gtd mtts meaning that the average field size is lower, probably 150 players.  a field size of 150 will distribute 80 points (equating to 0.6) and with skypoker's rake, say 10% (0.1), the breakeven is around 0.7. profitable players will have scores starting around 0.8.  
Posted by aussie09

Thanks for the quality answer.

So, I'll add that to my targets for 2015.....points rate 0.8

MP33

How about a Sky promo one month for MTT leaugues - could do a lower leaugue - say 200GTD and up

Donttelmum

Great work Rob!

aussie09

In Response to Re: * * * MTT leagues * * *:

Great work Rob!
Posted by Donttelmum

thank you james

aussie09

JANUARY


6,638 players in 146 tournaments

	Winners	played	1st	2nd	3rd	FT	cash
1	rabbit11	31	3	1	1	5	8
2	bearlyther	35	2	1	1	7	12
3	HAYSIE	38	2	1	1	4	7
4	StayOrGo	70	2			6	11
5	ALLEYKITTY	41	2			4	8
6	Savvy_79	17	2			3	3
7	cjy	27	1	2		6	6
8	terrytwomore	59	1	2		5	7
9	SoLack	48	1	1	1	5	11
10	baddunn	23	1	1	1	5	5
11	mystyle03	24	1	1	1	3	5
12	supakings	15	1	1	1	3	4
13	ozzieowen	13	1	1		3	5
14	cowhead	14	1	1		3	4
15	BLUEM0ON13	17	1	1		3	4
16	unbpower	8	1	1		3	3
17	Gambelo	12	1	1		2	3
18	iwojima03	4	1	1		2	3
19	scotty77	29	1		2	5	5
20	Aek101	37	1		2	4	8

	Points	played	score	1st	2nd	3rd	FT	cash	Q1
1	GSmith13	82	86		3	1	11	20	30
2	bearlyther	35	61	2	1	1	7	12	17
3	StayOrGo	70	53	2			6	11	18
4	SoLack	48	52	1	1	1	5	11	19
5	rabbit11	31	51	3	1	1	5	8	9
6	ALLEYKITTY	41	49	2			4	8	21
7	terrytwomore	59	48	1	2		5	7	17
8	nslater112	67	44	1			3	12	20
9	HAYSIE	38	41	2	1	1	4	7	8
10	cjy	27	41	1	2		6	6	9
11	Ozzy1000	37	41	1		1	3	10	17
12	Aek101	37	40	1		2	4	8	14
13	natry20111	25	40		1	2	5	9	13
14	TommyD	23	37		1	2	4	9	12
15	heddoh18	19	36		2	2	4	6	10
16	Jonno02	26	36		2	1	5	7	9
17	poker69	46	36			1	6	9	13
18	tinytellah	56	35	1			3	9	14
19	baddunn	23	34	1	1	1	5	5	7
20	scotty77	29	34	1		2	5	5	9

points per game; 1st=10 pts, 2nd=8pts, 3rd=6pts, FT=4pts, cash=2pts, Q1=1pt.


<td class="xl74" height="20" style="height:15pt;font-size:8pt;color:black;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri;border:medium no

	Profit	played	buy-ins	returns	profit
1	style2737	1	110	6,228	6,118
2	lolufold	1	110	3,713	3,603
3	Savvy_79	17	572	3,511	2,939
4	KOBAC	5	209	2,768	2,559
5	bishspur	12	193	2,565	2,372
6	bearlyther	35	930	3,266	2,336
7	patcho	2	33	2,283	2,250
8	starfox	2	44	2,107	2,063
9	chicknMelt	14	561	2,596	2,035
10	lamunique	1	110	1,763	1,653
11	TommyD	23	913	2,508	1,595
12	flushoff7	1	11	1,514	1,503
13	SJspanky1	16	248	1,703	1,455
14	scotty77	29	985	2,397	1,413
15	TheDart	28	589	1,943	1,354

aussie09

this table shows those who are more fearless than most.

it is a comparision of percentage rates (which is very poor mathematically) between heads and points.  what's more, the interpretation of which does not withstand much argument. 

i don't know whether to call it "fearless" or "aggro" or "wild" or "dangerous"



JANUARY

	Fearless	index
1	kc8	8.3
2	kj1953	8.0
3	Casrat	7.5
4	fisherm511	7.3
5	akvh	7.2
6	ROBINAYR	7.0
7	thompson61	7.0
8	CANARY215	6.8
9	effelreed	6.7
10	rayw	6.0
11	pappa1949	6.0
12	tiddley123	5.8
13	alan81	5.8
14	MrMcgee	5.7
15	eldraw1959	5.5
16	RUSKY123	5.5
17	shadow529	5.5
18	stacey4004	5.4
19	twistedole	5.1
20	jamdun88	5.0

2014

	Fearless	index
1	GUINEAPIG	12.7
2	frankt60	11.0
3	Iceman343	10.1
4	ANGIE_GG	8.9
5	mags81	8.7
6	steve1312	8.5
7	eldraw1959	7.8
8	jod67	7.4
9	6158jeff21	7.3
10	Ollie1717	7.3
11	heathpeeps	7.3
12	BEATUS	7.3
13	samjgee22	7.1
14	e17johnson	6.5
15	quietman7	6.3
16	811206	6.3
17	nik1986	6.2
18	AMYJ2b	6.0
19	melvin1958	5.8
20	kinghigh07	5.8