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The move of sky poker to subscription tv is not popular with many.
But unfortunately to watch the Ryder Cup or soon the Open golf or England home rugby
matches you have to subscribe to Sky.
I learnt a valuable lesson when I was a child when one day stating that something wasn't fair.
My father's reply was life isn't fair son the quicker you learn that the better.
It's gone and isn't coming back any time soon.
Commercial decision made.
As for the forum it gives everyone a chance to have their say.
If it is not used or used inappropriately it too will close and the people who did not use it will moan, as people moan when the empty village pub finally shuts.
So get posting and lets grow the community and hopefully improve the site.
Daggers
and is this one of the reasons for the decline of the fora (forums)? if people choose to post elsewhere instead of on the forum then i guess they are contributing to the forum's decline. as TK says it's up to the community to make this work.
you're not ticking many boxes with this. none.
thanks for for positive, uplifting and humourous contribution.
many more posts like yours and you'll be the only one left.
up your game, paige.
This isn't a go at Sky, but we are 'heavily' moderated/censored here, so I can understand why some stuff posted elsewhere doesn't make it to these shores.
Likewise, plenty of stuff here won't be appropriate on other forums/sites.
Swings and swongs innit.
If we don't play, there is no Sky poker TV.
The Ryder Cup and sporting events warrant Subscription TV because you pay to watch professionals.
Is it right to pay entry fees to tournaments and then pay premium rates to watch recreational players?
If it was pay per view I would consider paying, but subscribing to a channel for one incredible show a week is crazy.
Besides, Fowler & Orford will go on to bigger and better programmes because they are special! I can't see them staying for one show a fortnight
I don't think anyone from The Business would suggest you should take out a Sky Sports TV subscription just to watch the Sky Poker TV Show. Broadly speaking, it is it designed to appeal - or try to - to existing Sky Sports subscribers who may be described as the "poker curious", & may (or may not...) as a result of the Show, take up poker. To a poker site, the "poker curious" are a prime target. It's a given that most people who have played online for several years or more already have their preferred site, in most cases several of them, so it is preaching to the converted. Poker sites - all of them - need new faces all the time. People come, people go, so both ends of the equation need attention in different ways.
Anna & Richard are special? Just a bit, both of them are gifted & highly respected. They are freelance though, as most pro Broadcasters & Presenters are, & always have been. Both of them have other jobs, & always have done. Richard does a lot of TV Continuity work, & Anna has her own photography business. No idea if they will stay with Sky Poker TV, or even if Sky Poker TV will last very long, but they seem to be happy at the moment, whilst being aware of the precarious nature of their job security in what is, almost entirely, a Freelance industry.
Special was meant as a compliment! In that they touch peoples hearts with their laughter and enthusiasm. A talent for spontaneity that is rarely seen on other channels
And yes, they do both possess a wonderful talent. They are both genuinely nice people, too, really nice.
The poker-verse is imploding!
I haven't read all the posts on this thread so I may be repeating (sorry).
Not quite a "reg" player or poster on the forum, but I do play on sky a couple of nights a week (DTD as much as poss) and I recently made the trip for the live forum meet up (awesome weekend).
I think the dedicated skypoker forum is brilliant, but im sure it doesn't seem as attractive from the "business" side of things. The only real upside can see from the suits point of view is it is a unique selling point and does encourage people who like the forum to stay playing on skypoker. Balancing this against the wave of players who think a multi million pound business is rigging £5 bounty hunters must be tough
As a player and a lover of poker it is brilliant that you can ask a question, get advice from fellow regs and even get replies from Tikay et al.
Maybe poker in general is on a bit of a downswing ( I know its seasonal anyway) but perhaps the promise of the USA joining the online world of poker again, and not doing, has also had an effect on the online game as a whole??
Who knows, all I know is I hope the forum keeps going, at least until I win a DTD so I can brag about it on said forum
Some interesting replies, thanks.
I'd just like to develop it a bit, as the whole subject is quite interesting to me, both here & elsewhere. Ironic timing yesterday about "double-edged swords", but that's all part of the equation, some positives, some negatives, & The Business needs to weigh these up all the time. Hopefully, you can see both sides of it.
More follows......
We talked about UK facing poker For a being in decline, & that's just a fact, not much anyone can do about that.
Most UK facing poker forums hit their peak in 2005/6. Facebook had barely started, & Twitter only began in 2006. Twitter has 500 million registered users, of which over 300 million are "active". Don't know the Facebook numbers, but they'll be equally monsta.
So Social-Media sort of took up the mantle, & damaged poker fora, as well as various other platforms, MSN & Skype & all that stuff, it's all relatively new, & Forums went into decline.
For The Business, that's OK, as they work Social Media pretty hard, but we can assume (because they still have it) they'd like this Forum to continue, & be an asset.
The 861 situation, as we discussed yesterday, has deffo cost a few hundred posts per week, we all know that, & there's nothing can be done about it.
Now let's put some context on the declining Forum Post Count here.
Here's a few examples. I'm not dissing any of there forums, or the people who run them - I know most of them, am friends with them, & they are doing their best, & I have no issues with any of them. I actually own action in one, & along with others, am trying to sweat it myself. But they are all finding it uphill right now.
Hendon Mob - this was THE DADDY of UK Poker Forums. Today it has had.....2 (TWO) Posts as of 4pm.
PokerMob - this is run by the former owners of THM. Around 12 posts today.
AWOP - 10 posts today (as at 4pm) all of which were started by the same guy, & 8 of which have not had a reply.
Newcastle Poker Forum - now sadly closed.
Gutshot Poker Forum - ditto.
APAT - still going along pretty well I think.
Betfair Poker Forum - 2 posts in the whole of May. TWO posts.
blonde. Peaked at 900 posts per day in 2005/6, now down to approx 340 per day, a drop of two thirds.
So when you look at it that way, the Sky Poker Community seems to be holding up quite well, I'd say, in terms of Post Count. I don't know the average daily Post Count here, but I guess someone could work it out if they so wished.
I have not mentioned "Number of Views", I know them for all the other Forums, but not for here, so I can't do a comparison.
It is certainly not helpful that Sky Community don't have emoticons & card graphics, but I've banged that drum way too many times, & it is what it is. Ditto the annoying situation where Photos need approval. Again, I've sung that song Upstairs way too often for my own good, so I can't say any more.
Anyway, it all comes back to where we started - it's the Members who make or beak a Poker Forum, & if they work it, & use it well, it will be OK. If they don't, it wont.
One really interesting thing (I'm easily pleased....) is how this place now self-moderates itself 95% of the time. There used to be 10 active Mods, & they were kept busy. I think there are 4 now, I'm not even sure I could name them all - the place self-moderates, & if stuff gets out of line, Members sort it themselves in the majority of cases.
Really, it comes down to new threads, & people starting them. They are the seedcorn. Don't have to be poker related, I could probably suggest a dozen different types of new threads we could run between us.
Hope that all makes some kind of sense.
As you know (I posted copies of the e-Mails) I sent these up to the Office on Monday or Tuesday.
I've just sent the same chap a quick reminder.
However, he seems to have been Offline all day, so there's not much more I can do, & I don't have access to anyone else to sort it.
He MAY have it in hand, I've no idea, but if not, my apologies, & they'll have to be arranged another night.