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He was more than "just talking", he was also "not talking"........
This is from the WSOP Update.......
".....There's more than 600,000 in the pot as the river card arrives on a 5-3-2-8-10 board. William Kassouf is heads up and out of position, and he moves all in with his big stack. That puts the decision on Stacy Matuson, who has 490,000 chips left in front of her.
While Matuson deliberates, the cameras gather around, and Kassouf starts chatting. "You don't want to be eliminated in front of the whole camera crew, do you? The whole world?" By this time, a watchful floorman has arrived, and he gives Kassouf a verbal warning about his conversation. Kassouf, however, doesn't stop. He continues to offer bits of conversation, including things like "lay it down" and "don't go broke in this hand."
Now Matuson is getting upset, and she pleads with the floorman for some help. "How is his hand still live?" she asks.
The floorman repeats his warning to Kassouf and explains that he and Kassouf will "have a discussion" after the hand. Kassouf continues to peck, though, and the floorman has had enough. "If you say one more word before the hand is over, I'm going to give you a penalty."
"I'll handle this one," Tournament Director Jack Effel says, suddenly stepping into place behind Kassouf.
Kassouf is not done trying, though. He complies with the order to remain quiet, but he mimes and gestures and waves his hands at Matuson while she thinks. He zips his lips with his fingers, then plays charades with "You show, I'll show," acting it out several times. Effel now issues him another verbal warning.
"How about a clock?" someone at the table asks. "We want to play, too."
Matuson is not happy with the time limit imposed on her, and she lets the clock tick all the way down to zero before open-mucking Q-Q .
Kassouf, on the other hand, acts pleased with himself. "Do you want to see it? Do you?" Matuson nods. "Double gutter and I missed," Kassouf says, showing 6-9 . "Nine-high like a boss! Big heart. Big heart of a lion."
Kassouf is quickly pulled aside by Jack Effel, who issues him a one-orbit penalty for taunting.
"How dare you call the clock on me?" Matuson says as she stands up to gather herself for a moment.
Kassouf has a lot of chips, but they're still in an uncountable pile in front of his vacant seat -- call it 3,500,000 for now."
I don't have any problem with Will, or his antics, it's just his style, & away from the table he is a kind & gracious man.
I DO have a problem with defying "Floor" no less than 3 times. We just can't have anarchy, & players doing as they wish.
The next time this happens - especially this deep in the WSOP Main, where they all have a realistic shot at a 7 figure score, I'd throw the player out of the event, there & then.
I'd bet good money neither he nor anyone else would do it again if thy knew the penalty was instant disqualification.
As a recreational player I was lucky enough to win entry to the 6 max at DTD last year, this was my first time playing live.
I really enjoyed the experience and most of the players at my table where friendly and a good time was had by all.
If I had had to spend the day sat with this guy in my face the chances of me wanting to play live again would be pretty slim.
Both yourself and TK are seasoned players who know the value of recs in the games yet you both seem to be condoning this sort of behaviour which surely is going to put recs off.
"Verbals" are part of the live game, whether we like it or not. I don't like them, not one bit, & would never lower myself to do that sort of stuff, but speech play is within the rules. Defying "floor" is not.
Quite a difference between a £1,000 event with a hundred thou up top, & the late stages of the WSOP Main, with $8 milly up top, in an event which at this stage is populated almost entirely by hard nosed pros.
there is something that must be included here.
we can judge whether will's chat is ok or not. however, the TD judged that it was not ok. the important element is the TD told will to cease.
that is all ok and straightforward.
however, will continued and did not respect the order and circumvented the instruction by signing. we are now in a different place.
alike (although differing in scale) a judge may place a restraining order. if a villain wishes to break that order it is no longer an issue of the harm the act causes (which is now pretty irrelevant) it is now an issue of not obeying the court. this is a different league.
i like will, i think his actions are fine. mainly amusing.
if the TD said desist he should have complied. he was lucky that the punishment for disobeying was not disqualification.
having said all this, i think he should do exactly the same next time. but if told to stop, then stop. he is in a very different place.
good hunting will.
I dont really think it's right that you can say it's ok in 1 event and not another.
It was for this reason I found it a little surprising you thought this guys tactics was ok.
For me personally all this guys antics wouldn't intimidate me but it would wind me up and make me pretty angry which could possibly carry on off the table.
Being angry doeasn't mean you cant control your emotions, It is an emotion just like being happy or sad is.
They are playing down to 27 players today, and there's been a flurry of early eliminations, The first hour or so has seen 13 bustouts, including one Brit, Jason McConnon from Manchester when he shoved with top pair top kicker but unfortunately his opponent had flopped a set and that was bye bye Jason. He finished 78th for just over $80K.
67 left and counting.
David Lhonore (without an apostrophe today) and Will Kassouf have lost a few, Andrew Christoforou picked up a few and both Elliot Peterman and Max Silver have gained over a million chips so far today.
66. Maxim Sorokin (RUS)
65. Nicolas Fisher (GER)
64. Matthias Habernig (AUT)
All pick up $96787
That's a ladder point so the next player out will be the first to earn a 6-figure payday.
Tom Middleton has increased his stack by 50% recently and moved himself back in to the top half of the field.
Valentin Vornicu has regained the chip lead, but Jerry Wong and Kenny Hallaert are close behind.
No Brits in the immediate danger zone, but it's NLH so one clash of good hands and anything could happen.