SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.

Tikay10

Please note;

SATELLITE qualifiers (& the Freeroll winner) will play Day 1b, the SATURDAY. The seat value will be £220.
 
Winners of seats via Promos (SPT Mission, Priority Sky Poker Tour Club etc) will play on the FRIDAY, & their "package" will be worth £400. (£220 seat value plus £180 contribution to Expenses).

Those who qualify for the Friday via Promos cannot transfer to the Saturday, sorry.

Tikay10

All the details are HERE, but the pertinent points are;

Day 1A Flight

Friday 4th August
Play commences at 16:00
Late registration open until 20:40
Play concludes at 01:50am

Day 1B Flight

Saturday 5th August
Play commences at 14:00
Late registration open until 18:40
Play concludes at 23:50

Day 2 - Final Day

Sunday 6th August
Play commences at 13:00
Late registration closed
Play estimated to conclude around 01:00am

Players are allowed one re-entry per flight, and can play both flights. Players have the option to take their biggest stack through to Day 2.

Starting stack: 25,000
Blinds: 40 minutes


NOTE - Post Edited to reflect revised times on Days 1A & 1B.

hhyftrftdr

Pass the popcorn.

MattBates

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

Please note; SATELLITE qualifiers (& the Freeroll winner) will play Day 1b, the SATURDAY. The seat value will be £220.   Winners of seats via Promos (SPT Mission, Priority Sky Poker Tour Club etc) will play on the FRIDAY, & their "package" will be worth £400. (£220 seat value plus £180 contribution to Expenses). Those who qualify for the Friday via Promos cannot transfer to the Saturday, sorry.
Posted by Tikay10

Can sat winners play 1a?

Tikay10

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc. : Can sat winners play 1a?
Posted by MattBates

Ha, there's always one......

I think the "official" line would be no, as the Admin involved in swapping people around would become a nightmare.
 
But - as you of all people would know - the REAL problem is not enough players on the Friday & too many on the Saturday. So it could end up half empty on Friday, sell out on Saturday & we miss the Guarantee.
 
So I think the answer might be "it would be considered on a case by case basis", as it might help solve the Fri/Sat problem.

However, swapping from Friday to Saturday will NOT be entertained as far as I am aware.   

  

Tikay10

PS - anyone want to take the unders or overs on how many people ask to swap from Friday to Saturday?

I'll set the line at 5.5.

Essexphil

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

PS - anyone want to take the unders or overs on how many people ask to swap from Friday to Saturday? I'll set the line at 5.5.
Posted by Tikay10

Overs, please

MAXALLY

Just a couple of questions....

How did the 7 players already in Day 1A win/get awarded their seats? 

EDIT : Just seen Priority Sky Tour tag, so now know.

Can players qualify for both days somehow as it is classed as a rebuy event? (genuine enquiry btw, as I would actually attempt to do this)

How is Vegas going ?

Tikay10

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

Just a couple of questions.... How did the 7 players already in Day 1A win/get awarded their seats?  EDIT : Just seen Priority Sky Tour tag, so now know. Can players qualify for both days somehow as it is classed as a rebuy event? (genuine enquiry btw, as I would actually attempt to do this) How is Vegas going ?
Posted by MAXALLY

Q1 - already answered.

Q2 - I suppose so, yes. Not sure what the rules are but if you won a Promo package for the Friday, I can't see why someone would not be allowed to win a Satellite for the Saturday.
 
Q3 - Can I pass on that? 0/5 so far, & $4,265 in the hole from Tournaments. If making Day 2 counted I'd be getting the lot, but no cigar here so far. Probably about $2,000 up at cash though, which is no consolation to my poor stakers.....    

MAXALLY

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc. : Q1 - already answered. Q2 - I suppose so, yes. Not sure what the rules are but if you won a Promo package for the Friday, I can't see why someone would not be allowed to win a Satellite for the Saturday.   Q3 - Can I pass on that? 0/5 so far, & $4,265 in the hole from Tournaments. If making Day 2 counted I'd be getting the lot, but no cigar here so far. Probably about $2,000 up at cash though, which is no consolation to my poor stakers.....     
Posted by Tikay10

Thanks for the replies.

Probability says you will cash/win one soon Then again, probability also says Bates will lose a flip soon........;)

aussie09

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

Please note; SATELLITE qualifiers (& the Freeroll winner) will play Day 1b, the SATURDAY. The seat value will be £220.   Winners of seats via Promos (SPT Mission, Priority Sky Poker Tour Club etc) will play on the FRIDAY, & their "package" will be worth £400. (£220 seat value plus £180 contribution to Expenses). Those who qualify for the Friday via Promos cannot transfer to the Saturday, sorry.
Posted by Tikay10

hi tikay,

Priority Sky Poker Tour Club.

what is it?

Tikay10

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc. : hi tikay, Priority Sky Poker Tour Club. what is it?
Posted by aussie09

Hi Rob,

It is on the Priority Landing Page.

It is THIS

Think it has been there a while.

I also started a thread about it, HERE

EvilPingu

Then times for each day starting and finishing. Yuck. Not a fan at all.

Getting back to hotel at 5am after Day 1A and getting woken up by everyone going to breakfast and cleaners 3-4 hours later is going to be "fun" - I can see that there's a need to accommodate most people who finish work then play the tournament, but that's what late reg is for, to avoid a 4am finish.

Also I see no need for a Saturday Day 1 to start at 4pm. If you make Day 2 from Day 1B, you leave the casino at 2am and have to be back for day 2 at 1pm. An 11 hour turnaround is pretty demanding, not just for players but also for the dealers who'll no doubt be expected to stick around even later until the last punters leave, then come back well before the start of play on Sunday.

I suspect it's too late to change anything, and probably down to the casino what they choose to do rather than Sky, but I'd like to see both those Day 1s start at least an hour earlier, if not two.

I wasn't that likely to play just because it's about 5 hours travel for me, but that scheduling definitely makes me less likely to play.

aussie09

ah, yes.  thank you.  i never knew the name.

i am actually part of the promotion but no chance of winning anything. 

we know that sometimes being in priority one month and not the next can be fab or rotten.  or vica versa.  that's just how it is.  for me, it doesn't work this time, but it doesn't matter.  probably why i couldn't recall the name.

it's hot here.

Tikay10

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

ah, yes.  thank you.  i never knew the name. i am actually part of the promotion but no chance of winning anything.  we know that sometimes being in priority one month and not the next can be fab or rotten.  or vica versa.  that's just how it is.  for me, it doesn't work this time, but it doesn't matter.  probably why i couldn't recall the name. it's hot here.
Posted by aussie09

Gotcha. Some you win, some you lose.

Hot? Don't talk to me about "hot". It's 44C (111f) here today. Sheesh.  

Tikay10

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

Then times for each day starting and finishing. Yuck. Not a fan at all. Getting back to hotel at 5am after Day 1A and getting woken up by everyone going to breakfast and cleaners 3-4 hours later is going to be "fun" - I can see that there's a need to accommodate most people who finish work then play the tournament, but that's what late reg is for, to avoid a 4am finish. Also I see no need for a Saturday Day 1 to start at 4pm. If you make Day 2 from Day 1B, you leave the casino at 2am and have to be back for day 2 at 1pm. An 11 hour turnaround is pretty demanding, not just for players but also for the dealers who'll no doubt be expected to stick around even later until the last punters leave, then come back well before the start of play on Sunday. I suspect it's too late to change anything, and probably down to the casino what they choose to do rather than Sky, but I'd like to see both those Day 1s start at least an hour earlier, if not two. I wasn't that likely to play just because it's about 5 hours travel for me, but that scheduling definitely makes me less likely to play.
Posted by EvilPingu

Understood Andy, & I don't intend to take issue with any of that.

It's an equation for which there is no correct answer though.

Make the playing hours shorter, & it's all "the structure was too fast".

Make the playing hours longer & peeps complain at the "long days".

I've been playing some seriously long days out here, but that's why we play poker is it not? The longer the better, because I adore playing the game. It's not as if it's work, is it? And in MTT's, the longer we are at the table, the better we must be doing.

We could debate this for ever & never reach a meeting of minds, it's impossible.

Pretty sure our resident Timeshare Salesman will have a view he decides to share, too.     

aussie09

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc. : Gotcha. Some you win, some you lose. Hot? Don't talk to me about "hot". It's 44C (111f) here today. Sheesh.  
Posted by Tikay10

phew!  44 degrees c.  if i'm not mistaken, in old money, that would be 13 chains and 3 fathings.  in new money, that almost 7 hadron colliders.

Tikay10

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc. : phew!  44 degrees c.  if i'm not mistaken, in old money, that would be 13 chains and 3 fathings.  in new money, that almost 7 hadron colliders.
Posted by aussie09

Ha, love old units of measurement, & I especially love organisations that still use them.

Today was the first day of Royal Ascot, probably the pinnacle of flat Racing in Europe if not the world.
 
And yet, they still use old money for the distance of the races.
 
The St James's Palace Stakes is listed as being "7furlongs & 213 yards".
 
And the Ascot Stakes was listed as "2 miles, 3 furlongs and 210 yards".

Isn't that wonderful? 

Tikay10

CORRECTION

Just checked the temperature here again - it's now 47C, which is 116f.

EvilPingu

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc. : Understood Andy, & I don't intend to take issue with any of that. It's an equation for which there is no correct answer though. Make the playing hours shorter, & it's all "the structure was too fast". Make the playing hours longer & peeps complain at the "long days". I've been playing some seriously long days out here, but that's why we play poker is it not? The longer the better, because I adore playing the game. It's not as if it's work, is it? And in MTT's, the longer we are at the table, the better we must be doing. We could debate this for ever & never reach a meeting of minds, it's impossible. Pretty sure our resident Timeshare Salesman will have a view he decides to share, too.      
Posted by Tikay10

I'm totally fine with long days, there's one day tournaments and evening turbos for those who aren't. Like you say, I'd rather have long days than short ones. I'm also somewhat okay with 500bb starting, because people want to get value for money live, not just sit down with 100bb and bust midway through level 2 (Or hand 1 with Jacks...) - While I'd personally like antes to kick in sooner, I don't think the structure is a problem really.

I'd just start two hours earlier and finish two hours earlier for 1A and certainly 1B, tbh. That way, players & dealers get more rest between the two days, without compromising the structure at all. I just struggle to see what waiting until 4pm to start on a Saturday achieves, really.

aussie09

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc. : Ha, love old units of measurement, & I especially love organisations that still use them. Today was the first day of Royal Ascot, probably the pinnacle of flat Racing in Europe if not the world.   And yet, they still use old money for the distance of the races.   The St James's Palace Stakes is listed as being " 7furlongs & 213 yards ".   And the Ascot Stakes was listed as " 2 miles, 3 furlongs and 210 yards" . Isn't that wonderful?  
Posted by Tikay10

yes, and the dress code requires women to use extenders to lower hemlines on the day. 

Tikay10

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc. : yes, and the dress code requires women to use extenders to lower hemlines on the day. 
Posted by aussie09

And Fascinators.

Isn't that a great word for a hat?

Fascinator.

aussie09

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc. : Ha, love old units of measurement, & I especially love organisations that still use them. Today was the first day of Royal Ascot, probably the pinnacle of flat Racing in Europe if not the world.   And yet, they still use old money for the distance of the races.   The St James's Palace Stakes is listed as being " 7furlongs & 213 yards ".   And the Ascot Stakes was listed as " 2 miles, 3 furlongs and 210 yards" . Isn't that wonderful?  
Posted by Tikay10

...and just round it up.  add the other 7 yards to make it one mile.

Tikay10

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc. : I'm totally fine with long days, there's one day tournaments and evening turbos for those who aren't. Like you say, I'd rather have long days than short ones. I'm also somewhat okay with 500bb starting, because people want to get value for money live, not just sit down with 100bb and bust midway through level 2 (Or hand 1 with Jacks...) - While I'd personally like antes to kick in sooner, I don't think the structure is a problem really. I'd just start two hours earlier and finish two hours earlier for 1A and certainly 1B, tbh. That way, players & dealers get more rest between the two days, without compromising the structure at all. I just struggle to see what waiting until 4pm to start on a Saturday achieves, really.
Posted by EvilPingu

There is always - ALWAYS - a reason for these things. We may not know what it is, but there always is.

At least you avoided the classic triple face-palm moment & never said "they never thought it through".....

  

aussie09

who could ever have thought that imperial measurement was a good thing.

16 ounces to the pound, 14 pounds to the stone etc.  240 old pence to the pound, 20 shillings.  12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard, 1,760 yeards to the mile.

mind you, were it not for imperial measurement we might not have one athletic landmark.  unnoticed in france, roger le rampe first ran 1,609 metres in under 4 minutes.



 

HAYSIE

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc. : Understood Andy, & I don't intend to take issue with any of that. It's an equation for which there is no correct answer though. Make the playing hours shorter, & it's all "the structure was too fast". Make the playing hours longer & peeps complain at the "long days". I've been playing some seriously long days out here, but that's why we play poker is it not? The longer the better, because I adore playing the game. It's not as if it's work, is it? And in MTT's, the longer we are at the table, the better we must be doing. We could debate this for ever & never reach a meeting of minds, it's impossible. Pretty sure our resident Timeshare Salesman will have a view he decides to share, too.      
Posted by Tikay10

Not sure the late start on Friday does anything, because most players playing on Friday will have to take the day off anyway.

Dont know why you would have a late start on Saturday.

I read that some of the packages include exes to cover hotels, but apparently the qualifying sats for Saturday, dont for some reason.

But what do I know about anything?

glencoelad

Im with EvilP on this , an earlier start on both days would be best for most, but maybe not the casino.

Phantom66

I probably have less to moan about than others seeing as I can get in to central MCR in 45 mins by train and they run through the night due to the MCR airport line.

I just want to qualify and I will take whatever comes re:start times. If I am in it long enough to finish a day 1 I will be so delighted I will not care a jot about recovery time before day 2.

I can't begin to imagine how much time and cost it takes to put these events on. SPTs are back! This is tremendous news. Let's not give the organisers any excuses to feel it was not worth the effort.

MAXALLY

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

. I can't begin to imagine how much time and cost it takes to put these events on. SPTs are back! This is tremendous news. Let's not give the organisers any excuses to feel it was not worth the effort.
Posted by Phantom66

+1

Essexphil

True to say that the late finish may not be ideal. That said, the structure looks way better than the old UKPCs at DTD. This gives people not used to playing live plenty of time to ease themselves in.

Tikay10

In Response to Re: SPT Manchester Structure, clock, start times etc.:

True to say that the late finish may not be ideal. That said, the structure looks way better than the old UKPCs at DTD. This gives people not used to playing live plenty of time to ease themselves in.
Posted by Essexphil

I'm really pleased someone noticed that. As I wrote earlier, there is always a reason for everything.

You are wise beyond your years. And that's saying something.