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"Late" players will not have a Table or Seat allocation UNTIL they arrive, so their absence won't cause "dead" seats. They may even be on the Alternates List.
Effectively, they will be the same as an Alternate. Once they arrive, they will be allocated the first available seat.
A seat will NOT be held empty awaiting their late arrival.
It's a perfectly standard & normal procedure which we have used in SPT's & UKPC's many times.
Correct - because I did not know the full facts, & at this stage, it's hypothetical. Unless Ger was being devious - & I very much doubt that - his questions were about Mission SPT, & I answered them both promptly despite the awkward circumstances I was in at the time & which I explained.
Ger repeatedly told me earlier this year that he was not in a position to go to Vegas as part of Viva Las Vegas.
I prefer the rules to be adhered to by BOTH parties. However, on occasion, special circumstances suggest an exception can & should be made, & I'm equally in favour of that. It's easy to stand & criticise these decisions, but very often a good & justifiable reason arises.
Sky Poker guaranteed X packages to Vegas, & that guarantee, the exact number of packages, has been honoured.
Generally, the rules state Packages are not transferable, & that's Sky Poker's right to say, & enforce, if they so wish. If players do not like the rules or T & C's then they should not enter.
If anyone wishes to query this further - genuinely - please either send me a PM or get in touch with CC. We are not going to be discussing private matters on this forum.
I will continue to answer all questions honestly, as I have done here since 2008, & I won't be dodging fair questions.
I've no idea what point he was making about Viva Las Vegas & that was not the gist of his question.
Do you really think Sky Poker, 11 years in, are suddenly going to start diddling players out of their fair winnings?
I repeat my earlier comments. I don't approve of either party trying to mess around with packages or bend the rules, but there are often genuine situations where an exception will be made.
The bottom line here is that Sky Poker completely, 100%, honour their promises & guarantees. If 45 packages to Vegas were promised, 45 will have been awarded as fairly as it is reasonably possible. I'm not sure why anyone would think otherwise, Sky Poker have zero history for being unfair.
Everyone at Sky Poker is determined that SPT Manchester - & the subsequent SPT's - will be fun, enjoyable, memorable, & something players will remember happily for a long time.
The vast majority welcomed the return of the SPT's with something approaching glee, but now we are once again in Bicker Mode.
Can we please keep this thread dedicated to SPT Manchester from here on in, & I invite you all to help Sky Poker make the return of the SPT's a success.
That's what The Business is trying to do, but it needs the players to buy-in to the same philosophy.
Firstly, there are freeroll/promo qualifiers-if they cannot go, only right & proper cannot sell etc.
Secondly, there are the people who played final qualifiers, at £435/£1k plus (often more than 1). Why cannot such people sell their packages-Sky have already received their entitlement. If 1 or more of these players do not attend, what happens to the money?
I'm not having a pop at Sky-all sites do this. Diddling?-no. But there is the potential for a nice win for the house...in SPTs it will be added to the prizepool
Sky Poker purchase X packages in advance from a third party, & they are non-returnable.
There are no circumstances where jiggery-pokery can end up with Sky Poker benefitting from a spare package. If one comes spare at the last minute, a "Viva Last Vegas" Promo is run. If it becomes spare later, then it is distributed by Sky Poker in the fairest & most practical way possible. Why would they do otherwise?
Sky Poker paid - many months ago - for all the packages. An unused or spare package does not result in a refund to Sky Poker. There is zero potential for a "win for the house" here. If a package were unused, Sky Poker would not benefit by penny. The packages were paid for many months ago & the cost is non-refundable.
I'm really surprised you would think that Sky Poker would look to profit in such a manner, Phil, Sky Poker have zero history for that sort of thing.
The rules state, exceptional circumstances aside, that Packages cannot be sold or transferred. I would imagine the reason for this is that if a free market developed in the sale & purchase of VLV packages, the Admin for The Business would be horrendous. The bottom line, of course, is that the Vendor can set any Rules, Terms & conditions they deem reasonable.
Once again, I respectfully ask, can we keep this thread for SPT Manchester please.
Our desire remains to make SPT Manchester a happy occasion for all who try to qualify and or attend. It's an uphill battle, though.
I'm afraid you will have to wait a while for the answer to that, but SPT plans are well developed.
What I will tell you is this - & this is not a flippant or smartarse reply, it's the actual fact, though you may need to read between the lines.
As to date, cost & venue of future SPT's, you will be amongst the very first to know.
When you realise what that means, mine's a latte please, two sweeteners.
Don't agree with all you've said, but no intention of ruining a good thread-completely agree with Jac-looking forward to SPT
I consider you & I to be virtual friends, so I took the questions at face value.
If the question was really a "hook" to have a dig about VLV, then yes, I would have been disappointed, as you could have sent me a PM rather than asked in public & set off all this bickering & ruined what was intended to be a happy thread. But I repeat, I took the question at face value, so no, there's no problem with you & I & no need for an apology.
Once again, the rules state this:
"Can I transfer my package to another player?
Unfortunately not, so make sure you're available on the day before you try to qualify."
They also state this;
"Please check your availability before participating in this promotion as no cash or alternative prize will be offered as compensation for any player who cannot play."
Those rules can be seen HERE
There can somtimes be awkward or genine extenuating circumstsnces when an enlightened Management will allow a rule to be bent, or even broken - that is the perogative of The Business. Players have benefitted from this on occasion, but of course some folks use that as an excuse to cry "foul".
Sky Poker never have, & do not, set out to upset or diddle anyone. However, difficult circumstances arise from time to time, & Sky Poker deal with them as best as they can. I'm not sure why anyone would think otherwise, tbh.
In it's eleventh year of operation, Sky Poker have never sold anyone short, & from what I see from where I sit, the current Management won't be changing that.
Any chance we can get back to SPT Mnchester now, & try to make it an enjoyable occasion for all?
Ever wondered why other sites all closed their Poker Forums?
Will you be in Manchester? If so, I'll buy you a drink.
I'm hoping to introduce a lot of the players to Mr Channing, too. I did that with Stokey at a UKPC & he loved every minute, & so the plan is to do more of the same at Manchester, even set up a Channing Masterclass if time permits, or some fiver or Tenner SNG's with him, that sort of thing.
All the Staff will be there, too - well Sam, James, Mark & Kirsty, & personally I think it's great that they will all be there & players can meet them & chat.
Very much hope to see you in Manchester.