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idea to get players to stay with sky poker
i voted yes as i think the rake on dyms below a fiver is a total rip off. but someone has to loose. so probably reducing the rake will encourage more people to play but i think its the nature of the online poker player to blame the sight for there losses so you are always going to get a turnover of players especialy when you take those who only join for the free stuff and move on when its gone.
imo the best way to grow the sight is to ensure its reliable and with stonger and quicker policing of unaceptable behavior at the tables.
sorry final point the last option in the poll probably stops people reading and comenting on you very good point.
imo the best way to grow the sight is to ensure its reliable and with stonger and quicker policing of unaceptable behavior at the tables.
sorry final point the last option in the poll probably stops people reading and comenting on you very good point.
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Sky make more profit from higher stakes players and bigger tournies
It is in Sky's interests to have players with a half decent bankroll
Players that find it easy enough to build a bankroll, will stay on the site
A large proportion of new players see double your money games as the best way to try and build a bankroll
Sky charge 25p rake for a 2 quid dym, and 15p for the 1 quid game
This state of affairs is IMO extremely bad for the site
If the simple step was taken to significantly lower the rake at these levels, it is my belief that a lot more players would stay here and grow to become higher stakes players
GOOD FOR SKY AND GOOD FOR EVERYONE---WHATCHA RECKON?
Ive said before, It's their ball and they can play whatever games they like ...
The small game charges are higher because that's where
the quick turnover is ..1 00 +15 ..2 00 +25
Bigger games = slower turnover ..
Sky in general offer bad value for punters, you only have to compare the sports betting (sometimes nearly 120% over round) to other sites like 'bet365 and Ladbrokes ....
One other thing, what ever happened to the 'down-loadable site' as promised nearly 2 years ago, all the 'wait and see' 'shortly'... or the classic 'we'll get back to you on that'............
(as in player points)
It was never happening , but this is where The Head Office chiefs either got it wrong or they
were misguided, Had they have gotten the down-loadable software 2 years ago they would now be in a position to ride out the next recession that will surely come after the coming election ..
While the Skypoker site, only offers 6 seater quickies, as the main attraction, it's only ever going to be a fun site nothing more nothing less but then that's possibly why it charges extra for the rake on small games, it's more fun for them ..... mind you , these days I quite enjoy a quickie myself !!
glk benny
Think about this one ...
Banks tell you to allow 3-5 days for monies to arrive in your account ..
However Companies tell you monies have been cleared from their account to yours on day one, it's up to the Banks to credit your account .. So the Banks are making use of your money in the trading markets for 2-4 days before it hits your account ..
Also all these online gaming companies, how much money are they holding in 'bankrolls' of players and gamblers..
If every gambler and poker player, withdrew their money after each session, and only deposited when they were ready to play again ??? Now that would be funny ......
Stretcher bearer for the 'suites' please ... elo .......medics
benny
a few weeks ago i was messin around on omaha (all in everyhand).
was playin a guy who i have never seen befor and i dont think i will see him again, i found out that f/tilt has a rake cap of $0.50 and i think skys is a massive cap of £1.70 (i think) i would love to see rake reduced to £1 max for cash and 10% for all mtt/stt well upto £100 buyin mtt/stt then i think it should be lower.
Come on sky --- come on here and try to defend this stupid charge--It makes no sense whatsoever, and in fact, it says--"hi new customer, welcome to sky, we are here to rip you off, ner ner na ner ner----byeeee
off to play on virgin now---maximum rake is 10%
TOTALLY AGREED!!! sky poker's rake is one of the most exspensive may even the the top 1, %10 is fine loyal player's will stay but like u say why loose so much in rake .. i come and go on this site just to ballance the BR" im not by no means a high roller' but even for us mear mortals lol "CHEAP means CHEAP.... u never no sky may see the light and give a bit back xD..
Hope it gets properly considered.
come on sky suity type peepies-- A response would be appreciated-- sky bernie?
seems to me that sky are relying on the constant stream of new players from the telly to sustain the site
loyalty is far more valuable in the long term-- this site will not grow without loyal players that stay because of value for money at the tables
Lisa marie, Tikay and sky Rich ect, are great attractions-- but if it's easier to build a bank roll on every other site out there-- then people will play on them--- why would anyone try to build a bank roll on a site that is blatantly ripping them off on the rake?---simples!
Personally I think the STT and MTT rake shouldn't go above 10%. Though it's true that the low buy-in DYMs are fairly soft, any solid player should be able to show a positive ROI there, even at the current rake levels.
IMO the worst value rake on the site is at the £5.00 + 75p and £2.00 + 30p Bounty Hunter MTTs. It's a shame because they're great tournaments and fun to play.
At a £1.00 table the difference between 10p and 15p might not really make any difference to passing newbies, unlike other busier sites Sky Poker have got a TV channel to pay for, they need to get the rake in somewhere. I voted more research needed.
Thanks for your posts.
This thread isn't being ignored at all. We are keeping an eye on it and are monitoring the responses.
The thing is, this has been brought up before and we (in particular Sky Bernie) have addressed the issue and responded to similar ideas/threads.
Having said that, all threads and customer suggestions do deserve a response so i'll send it over to the guys again.
all the best to you all.
Rich
If Sky reduced the low stakes rake to 9%, it could then advertise that it is the best site in the world for new players
Something has to be done, surely this is worth a try
I think players would be far less worried about entering bigger tournies if they thought they could easily rebuild thier bankroll
Personally, I find it easier to build a roll on another site, then transfer the money to sky when I want to play here
I was completely loyal to sky before, and would be again if it was as easy to build a roll here as it is elsewhere
I don't even like the other site, but the low stakes rake is a lot lower, so it is much easier to build a roll there and transfer it to here when I want to play a tournie or two
I really think that if this issue was addressed, then every single player would benefit and in turn so would sky
Loyalty is far more profitable than passing trade-----innit !
I'm not sure what source you used for that, but it's incorrect. Sky Poker IS growing fast.
I expect you are already aware, but I did take some time to write to you at length earlier this afternoon.
Hope you are well, & it's good to hear of your fondness for Sky Poker, albeit with some understandable caveats.
will respond to your pm later
I stated it as a fact, not an opinion. And even seasonally adjusted, the numbers are up.
I fear we will not agree on this, but I can only state what are hard facts. I just happen to think that if facts are stated, as they were by you in this Thread, they should at least be accurate.
Perhaps we should agree to differ. But we can still have a hug if you wish.
I would also highly value your opinion on whether or not the lowering of rake on these low stakes games is worth a try?
I would love to see the site reaching it's potential Tikay, and I genuinely believe it could become the best site on the net, this is just an idea that might help increase loyalty and numbers.
I don't want to play on any other site, but I have to, so if the reasons I have to are addressed, then I, and possibly many others, won't have to, and can play solely on the site they prefer---Sky poker
ps--big hug
I'm tired after a long day & a 4 hour Show, so I'll reply properly tomorrow. Actually, make that later today.
But can the site be better? Yes it CAN! Fact.
Is it getting better? Yes it IS. Fact.
Is it getting better fast enough? That's the poser.
suddenly it came to me, like a vision from above.................................................
why hasn't this been thought of before ?
Once a week , Skypoker could run a series of recorded studio knockout events the same as the old 'Late Night Poker' .. the show could be edited to one hour .. maybe 6 shows with the winner s of each week going through to the final ... To get the 36 players, run some MTT's say 4, where the top 9 qualify get to play in the studio games ....
Of course I would expect automatic entry for the idea and tomorrow ....
I'm having spicy 'seagull pie' with spring onion rolls ....
To save Mr "Anyone" answering, I can confirm that I was at my desk in the Office at 7am this morning, as I am every day, & I finished work at around 1am last night/this morning, as I do every day.
If & when it progresses further, it will be quite something!
We shall see. I hope.
just put a word in for me to get a seat ....
why not do a trial run on oynutter's idea and see does it attract more
traffic on the lower stakes.
just make it known that it will revert back to its original rake
if the trial run is not successful.
with punters being made aware of the above ,
they will defo play more games
in fear of it returning back to its original rake .
plus all new and oringinal low/micro punters
will be happy to stay and recommend skypoker.
i would appreciate a response when you have time bernie on this,
the punters at the end of the day
are the ones that will make this site grow.
i say above as a loyal skypoker player who wants this site to grow !
denis