Okay, big draw, laid down........

DOHHHHHHH

The reads are just average 30nl players, havent noticed them do much, is it an easy lay down? or with 2 players in, the extra money make it worthwhile drawing to the nuts?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DOHHHHHHH	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£29.85
paddyop22	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£13.53
	Your hole cards	A 7
semaj08	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£15.35
nalotofdet	Call		£0.30	£1.05	£24.37
rupert57	Call		£0.30	£1.35	£16.68
topper76	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Call		£0.15	£1.50	£29.70
paddyop22	Raise		£0.60	£2.10	£12.93
semaj08	Call		£0.60	£2.70	£14.75
nalotofdet	Call		£0.60	£3.30	£23.77
rupert57	Call		£0.60	£3.90	£16.08
DOHHHHHHH	Call		£0.60	£4.50	£29.10
Flop
		Q 9 6
DOHHHHHHH	Check
paddyop22	Check
semaj08	Check
nalotofdet	Bet		£4.50	£9.00	£19.27
rupert57	All-in		£16.08	£25.08	£0.00
DOHHHHHHH
Turn
River

Wilhelm

Easy fold.  Or as Ed might say, you'll fold before the time reaches half way.  I don't feel the need to explain, there's nothing I can say that you won't already be aware of.

robc

easy fold, can find much better spots imo

dav1964

I call all day long its 3/1 to hit the nut flush im actually quite suprised you folded

PS is this NOT the flop you wanted with your hand?

Dudeskin8

Calling off on a draw, not for me.

dylan12

Snap call for me on that board m8 v that opponent

Eagle26

lol this is such a CALL!! ive spoke to doh on msn so cant be bothered to type it all out again why i think its a call....but for those sayin its a fold you are serious nits!!!

DOHHHHHHH

hmm im loving the difference of opinion already, ill talk the hand thru from my point of view when a few more come in

DeuceAK_47

In Response to Re: Okay, big draw, laid down........:

Snap call for me on that board m8 v that opponent
Posted by dylan12

Lol.....why are they very loose aggro?

robc

Anyone notice that mostly high stakes guys call, and the lower stakes guys fold lol

dylan12

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In Response to Re: Okay, big draw, laid down........ : Lol.....why are they very loose aggro?
Posted by DeuceAK-47

The name rings a bell to me - remember playing a rupert on nl100 a while back and he was a loosey goosey

beaneh

What sort of stupid question is this?!? why would you call?

DOHHHHHHH

hahIn Response to Re: Okay, big draw, laid down........:

What sort of stupid question is this?!? why would you call?
Posted by beaneh

Although I hate the way you said it, I love the fact that u said it!

Unless ur takin the p/1ss again

beaneh

In Response to Re: Okay, big draw, laid down........:

lol this is such a CALL!! ive spoke to doh on msn so cant be bothered to type it all out again why i think its a call....but for those sayin its a fold you are serious nits!!!
Posted by Eagle26

Norrrrrr fold all day long and twice on sundays.

beaneh

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hahIn Response to Re: Okay, big draw, laid down........ : Although I hate the way you said it, I love the fact that u said it! Unless ur takin the p/1ss again
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I don't know you so i'm not joking, or trying to come off rude as it happens. These are just not even questions what the hell? I've posted a similar response to this on your other poor thread entitled 'nut flush slow down?!'......

This hand with the A7dd, find out what pot odds you are getting, put him on a range, assess the strengths of that range then play your hand accordingly, unless you think he shoves only draws which you would be crushing then you have to fold, or at least that's how it looks at a one second glance. 

Eagle26

In Response to Re: Okay, big draw, laid down........:

What sort of stupid question is this?!? why would you call?
Posted by beaneh

what?? he has the nut flush draw, its nl30, there are 4 other people in the pot (2 of which have already shown aggression on the flop) he is gettin amazin pot odds/implied odds if he hits he could potentially take down a monster pot, if he misses he loses 1 buy-in! ...ok your a better player than me obviously but i really cant see how anybody can fold this!! he played ax suited and got the flop he wanted, he has multi way action - exactly what u want with these type of hands! im shovin this all day long! if im wrong then so be it!

GREGHOGG

its so tempting to call

but, i probably lay it down and hope the diamond doesnt come

beaneh

In Response to Re: Okay, big draw, laid down........:

In Response to Re: Okay, big draw, laid down........ : what?? he has the nut flush draw, its nl30, there are 4 other people in the pot (2 of which have already shown aggression on the flop) he is gettin amazin pot odds/implied odds if he hits he could potentially take down a monster pot, if he misses he loses 1 buy-in! ...ok your a better player than me obviously but i really cant see how anybody can fold this!! he played ax suited and got the flop he wanted, he has multi way action - exactly what u want with these type of hands! im shovin this all day long! if im wrong then so be it!
Posted by Eagle26

I'm off out now but i'll let doh come back and answer this question, and will post a response later if it's needed.

Beaneh.

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: Okay, big draw, laid down........:

its so tempting to call but, i probably lay it down and hope the diamond doesnt come
Posted by GREGHOGG

I di exactly this Greg.....guess the turn? lol

zing

snap fold. 

if you call this you're a big fat fish monger and please join my tables.

dav1964

Jeezuz ive sat and watched thousands of hands at the highest level on this site and virtually to a hand every time this is EXACTLY the spot these players are looking for.And yet this is NL30 and everyone of the so called good players is folding except EAGLE,DYLAN and MYSELF? pmsl dav

dav1964

In Response to Re: Okay, big draw, laid down........:

snap fold.  if you call this you're a big fat fish monger and please join my tables.
Posted by zing

So you have NEVER fished for a card eh? Yeah righto mate

zing

? 

why do sky forum heros get so assy

it's a simple easy fold

OMahonyO

I am so glad the decent players said fold.  When I read it I didnt even see it as a question......... It would take me 2 miliseconds to fold this

DeuceAK_47

IMO i would fold this as we have only invested 60p but i understand where some players are coming from saying it is a great flop for us...which it is but thats mainly because it gives us pot equity which allows us to semi-bluff and hopefully take down the dead money in the pot. (Fold Equity + Pot Equity = Bluff...villians all-in so we have no fold equity)

unknown_username

As I dont play cash its hard for me to say! In a MTT I would call all day long! In a DYM if I had a good stack against someone who could do me real damage I would fold all day long!

TommyD

I shove my stack in the middle and high five the dealer.  It's a cash game dude, you've got more than enough odds to go for it and if you miss, reload.

Simples.

Eagle26

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I shove my stack in the middle and high five the dealer.  It's a cash game dude, you've got more than enough odds to go for it and if you miss, reload. Simples.
Posted by TommyD

+1 i really cant see how people are sayin this is a fold! fair enough players like Beaneh, Zing, Mahony are all goo solid players who multi table who look for the nuts in every hand before they put there cash in the middle! but i totally agree its a cash game, its costin you 1 buy-in for a chance to at least triple up and we dont even know what the other 2 players in the hand are gonna do? why play Ax suited get the flop you want against multiple opponents and then fold it?? you dont hit reload simple! you hit you have at least tripled your stack!

YoungUn

I call if I can convince myself that my A is live, which in this spot I don't think I can.

DeuceAK_47

I dont think everyone can say we will tripple are stack when the first player has only put in £4 and has £20 behind so is definely not pot commited.

Buster69

i don't think either play is wrong if you feel lucky and the pot odds are there call away if you don't feel lucky or pot odds arent there then you fold simple.