Why have they replaced all the deep stacks with stupid speed bounty hunters then?--- the evening deep stacks were popular tournaments, with people playing poker in them, they were axed because they took too long, and sky want players to play donkey tournaments instead--innit!!!
if you take out the omaha games from the list above--- they are all speed, satellite, or bounty hunter games, apart from three tournies that are all 11 quid to enter---YOU DO THE MATHS!---
if someone wants a game of nl holdem for less than a tenner--they are 100% speed, bounty hunter, or satellite---and you don't need an orford in maths to see that!!
We may as well face the facts lads, sky want fast turnover games that are populated by bingo donkeys, people that want a good value, proper game of poker are no longer welcome here-- become a donkey and play speed bounty hunter one minute roulette rebuys---brilliant games these!!!
In Response to Re: Tourney Schedules - All Change! Please Post Feedback on this thread. : Never worry Micky, they know a lot of players like these, & they will always be part of the Schedule. The trick is to ensure there is something for all tastes, & that is what they are trying to do, as they always have done. Posted by Tikay10
cheers tk i like playing both but dont get much time these days so mainly sticking to stt, but imo sky do need 2 rethink some of there torns like wheres a decent heads up torn???
most of skys speed games r dying out aswell, the open used 2 be 7 minutes and get more runners than it does now or should i say main event like the double stack last wednesday only had 300 runners!!!
In Response to Re: Tourney Schedules - All Change! Please Post Feedback on this thread. : Thank you Spicey. My apologies, but I never saw the Post you referred to on another Thread - I don't seem to be able to find time to read all the different "Boards". Both the suggestions you make seem eminently sensible, practical, & do-able to me, so hopefully the Suits will take heed. For the avoidance of doubt, & clarity, I believe you are saying. Weekends - have some affordable Deepies from noon onwards, through the afternoons. Mondy night - retain the £2.20 Deepie, but move it from 7.15 to 7.45, to avoid clashing with the Monday Night £22 Deepie at 7.15. Once the feedback has achieved some mass, I'll send it up upstairs & then we'll have to see what they say. They may already be reading it, for all we know. Spooky.......;) Enjoy your Deepies this evening. Quite soon, you'll be playing Omaha, & Hi-Lo, I hope! Posted by Tikay10
If that can be achieved or the £2.20 at normal time of 7.15 and the £22 Deepie at 7.45 with the £100G Deepie at 8.15, then, hopefully, we Deepies are well served and it would be great. thanks and gl in your Omaha challenge tonight.
Ok 72% speed and sats.Of the ones you regard as playable only 2 fall with in my 2% brm mmmmmmmmm. Posted by belsibub
So, belsibub, tell me what YOU would like - that was the whole idea of the thread, to garner feedback. (See my Opening Post for details). By the bye, I never defined what is, & what is not, playable, as we all like different things. They are ALL playable, it just depends upon what floats your boat.
As I said, it's not possible to please everyone, they need to offer up a schedule for all tastes, but if you tell us what you prefer, then they have more chance of satisfying your preferences.
What sort of Tourneys does your bankroll run to, & how many per evening - in an ideal world - do you wish to play?
Ignore what is offered for others, if it's not relevant to you, just tell me what YOU would most like to see.
Post that for me, please, & I'll happily forward it to the Suits. If the demand exists, they WILL include them. Hence the Thread.
Why have they replaced all the deep stacks with stupid speed bounty hunters then?--- the evening deep stacks were popular tournaments, with people playing poker in them, they were axed because they took too long, and sky want players to play donkey tournaments instead--innit!!! Posted by oynutter
Hi Oynutter/All,
We have a site outage tomorrow morning at ~ 1.55am, hence tonight's tournament schedule has had to be amended.
Any tournaments which from historical analysis would go past this outage window have either been cancelled or had the blinds 'sped up'
Which explains all the speed tournaments in tonight's schedule and the lack of deep stacks.
Normal business will resume from tomorrow and I've made a sticky thread advising of this and the site outage.
P.S. Great discussion and some excellent feedback so thanks everyone who has contributed so far
In Response to Re: Tourney Schedules - All Change! Please Post Feedback on this thread. : If that can be achieved or the £2.20 at normal time of 7.15 and the £22 Deepie at 7.45 with the £100G Deepie at 8.15, then, hopefully, we Deepies are well served and it would be great. thanks and gl in your Omaha challenge tonight. Posted by TVSpice
Thanks Spicey,
Well I don't know if that can, but I'm pretty hopeful, & the Thread has served it's purpose by identifying the concerns of yourself & others.
All that is needed is for players to say "this is what we would prefer to see", and that's a great starting point for the "feedback" I respectfully requested & invited.
Am looking forward to tonight's Omaha Hi-Lo's, yes. I shall deffo not be reading the Forum whilst playing them, though! I'm nearly done for the day, so time to chill now.
I was playing some Omaha Hi-Lo Cash last night, my own money, on my own account, & someone came into the chat-box & started giving me all the sarcastic & ironic smartypants stuff, & it really distrurbed my focus, so I will bar myself from the Forum, & have to turn off the chat tonight!
id like a decent heads up torn plz sky, something like 1500 chips 5-10 min blinds and a deepstack speed event!! say 5 min blinds but only 1 to stop all the moans and groans!!!
Nice one Tikay, I can now see two good games for less than a fiver!!---brilliant!!-- and all in the space of five hours, how good is that eh? Posted by oynutter
oynutter, I think you'll find that Tony Kendall has your post's on "edit oynutter" .. !!
In Response to Re: Tourney Schedules - All Change! Please Post Feedback on this thread. : Orford teach you Maths, did he, Phil? 95%? But the straight answer, I imagine, is "no" - because many people enjoy the variety, some like the ones you don't like, & vice-versa. BH's & Velocities are not to my taste, as it happens, but a little tolerance & understanding of the wishes of others is necessary, & not unreasonable, imo. PS - Very well done on the £22 last night - some turnout that! And to think it was not even on the Schedule until mid-afternoon! Posted by Tikay10
Exaggeration on my behalf - yes! I also agree about tolerance on all types of mtts. I love that sky are trying new things and wanting feedback. I would personally like some £20+ mtts a bit more regularly (no guarantee needed) but don't know if Sky have the market for it?
Any chance on the sng route into mtts?
66 runners was fab!!! Top field of players as well - lets hope once the satellites start for it (if they do) that we can get even more
id like a decent heads up torn plz sky, something like 1500 chips 5-10 min blinds and a deepstack speed event!! say 5 min blinds but only 1 to stop all the moans and groans!!! Posted by MICKYBLUE
Now that WOULD be a neat trick!
I'm used to moaners & groaners, it's just what some people do. It's not hard to moan & groan, be sarcastic & ironic, take cheap shots. Constructive feedback takes a little more effort & guile, but is rewarded with the answers it deserves.
It's just "what do you want, guys?" - it's that simple, really.
I would love to see more of the 1 quid to enter tournies for the small guy-- there are a few of them in the morning-- 30 grtd ect, but why can these not run all day?-- the small guy gets a bad deal here, what with 15% rake on the 1 quid dym games ect-- these small games always get filled-- please sir, can we have some more?
I said that there where only 2 mtt from the choice in my small bankroll i would think about playing, not moaning.I like to play mtt since there are no mtt at sit & go's the tournament section is all there is now.If you click micro at bottom of tournaments(which is my level)you get freerolls and roulette thats it. I am old school like to build a stack not shove it whats wrong with that!
I would like to see more of a good selection of MTT's throughout the late night/early morning. These would not have to have any GTD's with them but it would give a choice for the late night players who may wish to play them. CASH PLAYERS can play through the night as there are ALWAYS players and tables active 24 hours on here. This gives them a unfair advantage. IMO, on gaining points for the league, but as that is another taboo subject I shall refrain from opening that can of worms up. If some late night decent structured MTT's are introduced say on a Friday or Saturday night (late), I hope that there will be enough players interested in playing in them. This site is advertised as a 24 hour site but unlike other sites, the choice is very limited for the MTT players on here after 11pm.
I would also like to see more sats introduced after 7pm (for those who work in the day) for the following night's OPEN whatever it be. This hopefully would encourage players with a smaller BR to try and qualify for the next nights OPEN at a time which will suit more people and therefore increase runners.
I echo Phil's request for sats also for the £22 deepstack but again, ideally in the evening and not the day.
I would also like to see more sats introduced after 7pm (for those who work in the day) for the following night's OPEN whatever it be. This hopefully would encourage players with a smaller BR to try and qualify for the next nights OPEN at a time which will suit more people and therefore increase runners. I echo Phil's request for sats also for the £22 deepstack but again, ideally in the evening and not the day. Posted by MAXALLY
good idea - i like that. I usually can only try to qualify (for Open) or any main event at weekend and do like to try to give it a go when i can
Hey there Tikay - hope things are good over at Sky Poker HQ. My first forum post so please excuse the lack of tech knowledge/jargon etc. On the question of tournament schedules - I am a new recruit, both to Sky and online poker in general but what I have noticed so far is that many of the freerolls seem to start at 7pm (could be wrong here so apologies if so). Without wishing for you to get the violins out, after commuting home from work, helping to put the kids to bed etc etc it is not really feasible for me to enter anything starting pre 8pm. I would imagine that many others are in a similar position? Would it be possible to have more at a later start slot? Anyway all the best and hopefully I'll cross swords with you at some point on the tables. Cheers S Posted by Spider555
In Response to Re: Tourney Schedules - All Change! Please Post Feedback on this thread. : Hi Oynutter/All, We have a site outage tomorrow morning at ~ 1.55am, hence tonight's tournament schedule has had to be amended. Any tournaments which from historical analysis would go past this outage window have either been cancelled or had the blinds 'sped up' Which explains all the speed tournaments in tonight's schedule and the lack of deep stacks. Normal business will resume from tomorrow and I've made a sticky thread advising of this and the site outage. P.S. Great discussion and some excellent feedback so thanks everyone who has contributed so far Kind regards Adam Posted by Sky_Adam
Thanks for sorting that out sky Adam-- nice to see all the deep stacks are back in the schedule-- I should have gone to specsavers innit?
Just caught up with this thread, and I appreciate what you say about keeping the schedule tidy.
Now someone already mentioned about having seperate lobby's for the different types of games and as you mentioned , this is already implemented to seperate hold em, omaha etc.
However this could be got round by having a slightly different filtering system, that ideally would also be customisable for each player.
Now if you go to the hold em section for MTT's from a game perspective, you can see
All, Regular, Televised, Rebuy, Bounty Hunter, Speed etc
Now thats a fine idea, ideal for those who are looking for one of those specific tournies.
However I would have thought that given that All, lists all tournies, and certain others have their own filters, that regular, would not include those tournies that can be listed by filter elsewhere.
So a more tidy schedule could be achieved by not listing tournies within the regular section that can be listed elsewhere. If someone is looking for tournies from a timed perspective then they at least have the option to view all, and list it by status.
Alternatively for the those who want to play deepstacks, then a filter could be added just to show deepstacks, although I don't like the idea as much, as you could end up with filters for every type of tourney being listed and the site could look messy. However this could also be gotten around by having a drop down filter, in a similar vein to how the quick play selection works, thus keeping the page a lot tidier.
Taken this a stage further, if a filter was then included for buy in fees, ie under £5, £5-£20, £20-£50 etc, that again would make it easier for Sky's poker clientelle to find those tournaments that they are interested in and also within the size of entry fee that they wish to pay, making it easier for the customer to find the tourny as easy and quickly as possible.
Now from the main schedule listing of "ALL" for those non special just every day regular events, would all of them needed to be listed, Probably not, you could list those events for the next xx many hours, thus keeping that section tidy too.
That way it wouldnt matter how many types of tournies were run throughout the day. If there are 50 BH ones the all page may only show those due to start in teh next 2 hours, and same with all the other types of tournies.
However a full listing (which I presume for regular tournies is within 24 hours) would be listed within each filtered tourny section
One - the above gets around the possibility of the schedule list looking messy, if that is one of the reasons for tournies being removed
Two - it empowers the players on here to have a varied choice, not just from type of tourny but as to cost etc.
If there is no added cost to Sky in running numerous tournies where prize money just comes from the buy in, then there would be no reason that each type of tourny couldnt be run every 15 minutes or every 30 minutes with a varying degree of buy in for each.
As an example Deepstack starts on teh hour for £1.10, 15 mins past the hour £5, 30 mins past £20, and at 15 mins to the hour £50
You could have the same for the other tourneys, except this time the £1.10 for the BH may start at 15 mins past and so on, £1.10 speedy at 30 mins past etc, this way there would be a tourny available for every type of buy in or format within a set period of time, whether this be 15 mins 30 mins or even every hour.
Again providing there is no additional cost to Sky then if some of these tournies dont take place due to insufficent entries then so what, at least Sky would be seen as providing as much choice as possible to its customers.
Now I'm sure there are obstacles to overcome, the main one that I imagine, would be is the present software even able to offer something like that, but its something that could be looked at.
All I know is that for someone like myself who cant guarantee at what time or even day I am able to spend some time on here playing poker, a system where by I can find a tournament that I wish to play and suits my bankroll as quickly as possbible would be a god send. If I then find a list of 4 possible tournies available within the next 2 hours that I wish to play , and am unable to do so due to limited number of entries, then whilst that would be infuriating at least I would go away thinking well you provided what I was lookin for.
Now I also appreciate that this is not something you can implement Tikay, your a poker player, not a software guru, altho I'm sure one night on the club or something we will here how you use to work for Microsoft and designed Windows or something , but I would be grateful for your thoughts on the idea
Sorry for the length of the post, I do tend to ramble a bit when I get going
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if someone wants a game of nl holdem for less than a tenner--they are 100% speed, bounty hunter, or satellite---and you don't need an orford in maths to see that!!
thanks and gl in your Omaha challenge tonight.
So, belsibub, tell me what YOU would like - that was the whole idea of the thread, to garner feedback. (See my Opening Post for details). By the bye, I never defined what is, & what is not, playable, as we all like different things. They are ALL playable, it just depends upon what floats your boat.
As I said, it's not possible to please everyone, they need to offer up a schedule for all tastes, but if you tell us what you prefer, then they have more chance of satisfying your preferences.
What sort of Tourneys does your bankroll run to, & how many per evening - in an ideal world - do you wish to play?
Ignore what is offered for others, if it's not relevant to you, just tell me what YOU would most like to see.
Post that for me, please, & I'll happily forward it to the Suits. If the demand exists, they WILL include them. Hence the Thread.
We have a site outage tomorrow morning at ~ 1.55am, hence tonight's tournament schedule has had to be amended.
Any tournaments which from historical analysis would go past this outage window have either been cancelled or had the blinds 'sped up'
Which explains all the speed tournaments in tonight's schedule and the lack of deep stacks.
Normal business will resume from tomorrow and I've made a sticky thread advising of this and the site outage.
P.S. Great discussion and some excellent feedback so thanks everyone who has contributed so far
Kind regards
Adam
Well I don't know if that can, but I'm pretty hopeful, & the Thread has served it's purpose by identifying the concerns of yourself & others.
All that is needed is for players to say "this is what we would prefer to see", and that's a great starting point for the "feedback" I respectfully requested & invited.
Am looking forward to tonight's Omaha Hi-Lo's, yes. I shall deffo not be reading the Forum whilst playing them, though! I'm nearly done for the day, so time to chill now.
I was playing some Omaha Hi-Lo Cash last night, my own money, on my own account, & someone came into the chat-box & started giving me all the sarcastic & ironic smartypants stuff, & it really distrurbed my focus, so I will bar myself from the Forum, & have to turn off the chat tonight!
I will pick up the outstanding questions & feedback tomorrow, guys.
Keep it coming.
I'm used to moaners & groaners, it's just what some people do. It's not hard to moan & groan, be sarcastic & ironic, take cheap shots. Constructive feedback takes a little more effort & guile, but is rewarded with the answers it deserves.
It's just "what do you want, guys?" - it's that simple, really.
I would like to see more of a good selection of MTT's throughout the late night/early morning. These would not have to have any GTD's with them but it would give a choice for the late night players who may wish to play them. CASH PLAYERS can play through the night as there are ALWAYS players and tables active 24 hours on here. This gives them a unfair advantage. IMO, on gaining points for the league, but as that is another taboo subject I shall refrain from opening that can of worms up.
If some late night decent structured MTT's are introduced say on a Friday or Saturday night (late), I hope that there will be enough players interested in playing in them. This site is advertised as a 24 hour site but unlike other sites, the choice is very limited for the MTT players on here after 11pm.
I would also like to see more sats introduced after 7pm (for those who work in the day) for the following night's OPEN whatever it be. This hopefully would encourage players with a smaller BR to try and qualify for the next nights OPEN at a time which will suit more people and therefore increase runners.
I echo Phil's request for sats also for the £22 deepstack but again, ideally in the evening and not the day.
good post mate
n good to see u on sky poker form me n all
chris
Now someone already mentioned about having seperate lobby's for the different types of games and as you mentioned , this is already implemented to seperate hold em, omaha etc.
However this could be got round by having a slightly different filtering system, that ideally would also be customisable for each player.
Now if you go to the hold em section for MTT's from a game perspective, you can see
All, Regular, Televised, Rebuy, Bounty Hunter, Speed etc
Now thats a fine idea, ideal for those who are looking for one of those specific tournies.
However I would have thought that given that All, lists all tournies, and certain others have their own filters, that regular, would not include those tournies that can be listed by filter elsewhere.
So a more tidy schedule could be achieved by not listing tournies within the regular section that can be listed elsewhere. If someone is looking for tournies from a timed perspective then they at least have the option to view all, and list it by status.
Alternatively for the those who want to play deepstacks, then a filter could be added just to show deepstacks, although I don't like the idea as much, as you could end up with filters for every type of tourney being listed and the site could look messy. However this could also be gotten around by having a drop down filter, in a similar vein to how the quick play selection works, thus keeping the page a lot tidier.
Taken this a stage further, if a filter was then included for buy in fees, ie under £5, £5-£20, £20-£50 etc, that again would make it easier for Sky's poker clientelle to find those tournaments that they are interested in and also within the size of entry fee that they wish to pay, making it easier for the customer to find the tourny as easy and quickly as possible.
Now from the main schedule listing of "ALL" for those non special just every day regular events, would all of them needed to be listed, Probably not, you could list those events for the next xx many hours, thus keeping that section tidy too.
That way it wouldnt matter how many types of tournies were run throughout the day. If there are 50 BH ones the all page may only show those due to start in teh next 2 hours, and same with all the other types of tournies.
However a full listing (which I presume for regular tournies is within 24 hours) would be listed within each filtered tourny section
One - the above gets around the possibility of the schedule list looking messy, if that is one of the reasons for tournies being removed
Two - it empowers the players on here to have a varied choice, not just from type of tourny but as to cost etc.
If there is no added cost to Sky in running numerous tournies where prize money just comes from the buy in, then there would be no reason that each type of tourny couldnt be run every 15 minutes or every 30 minutes with a varying degree of buy in for each.
As an example Deepstack starts on teh hour for £1.10, 15 mins past the hour £5, 30 mins past £20, and at 15 mins to the hour £50
You could have the same for the other tourneys, except this time the £1.10 for the BH may start at 15 mins past and so on, £1.10 speedy at 30 mins past etc, this way there would be a tourny available for every type of buy in or format within a set period of time, whether this be 15 mins 30 mins or even every hour.
Again providing there is no additional cost to Sky then if some of these tournies dont take place due to insufficent entries then so what, at least Sky would be seen as providing as much choice as possible to its customers.
Now I'm sure there are obstacles to overcome, the main one that I imagine, would be is the present software even able to offer something like that, but its something that could be looked at.
All I know is that for someone like myself who cant guarantee at what time or even day I am able to spend some time on here playing poker, a system where by I can find a tournament that I wish to play and suits my bankroll as quickly as possbible would be a god send. If I then find a list of 4 possible tournies available within the next 2 hours that I wish to play , and am unable to do so due to limited number of entries, then whilst that would be infuriating at least I would go away thinking well you provided what I was lookin for.
Now I also appreciate that this is not something you can implement Tikay, your a poker player, not a software guru, altho I'm sure one night on the club or something we will here how you use to work for Microsoft and designed Windows or something , but I would be grateful for your thoughts on the idea
Sorry for the length of the post, I do tend to ramble a bit when I get going
Aski (Col)