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Well known 50/100nl regular intends to play multiple roulette HU games in order to qualify for the s
Just to clarify the league points on offer for a £1.10 roulette HU are 3 for a win
The league points for a £5.50 dym (my level) are 7 for a win.
he can easily make 20 points+ in the time it takes me to win 7.
Roulettes take 30 seconds and involve no skill, Dyms take up to 40 mins each.
Seems a bit unfair really.
As i speak, another person (non cash player), near the top of the leaderboard of stts has registered for 3 X £1.10 roulettes.
Easy game.
The league points for a £5.50 dym (my level) are 7 for a win.
he can easily make 20 points+ in the time it takes me to win 7.
Roulettes take 30 seconds and involve no skill, Dyms take up to 40 mins each.
Seems a bit unfair really.
As i speak, another person (non cash player), near the top of the leaderboard of stts has registered for 3 X £1.10 roulettes.
Easy game.
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He made the cash final last time comfortably and will do again.
Maybe he doesn't think he is good enough to beat the cash players in an mtt. He has a perfectly good mtt game, so I don't really understand. I feel a bit offended really because most of the regular stt players are very decent.
I am going to qualify into the stt final this time, through multi tabling dyms regularly. It seems a shame that this player will get there by just clicking "OK" i register. We can all do that if we have the bank roll.
Whinge over.
JUST CANCEL LEAGUE POINTS FOR ROULETTE GAMES PLEASE!!!
On a positive note, all of the new tsp members thoroughly deserved their places and i wish them every luck. I think the whole process has been handled very well by Sky, i just hope they can do something about the roulette games contributing to the league.
*EDIT, also need to look at why a 30p dym win gets 3 league points, and a £420 HU win gets only 4 league points, further examples below...
get rid of RR points to make fair
HU points should be worth more as i would have more STT points
i am hoping to get in but i think my best chance is MTT
Should be at least 7 for your game dohhhhhhh obv.
I would like Sky to review the league points system for sngs and make it fairer. That is all this thread is about, i used the opening example to demonstrate the point.
EDIT!* £33 quid games pay 4 points? silly innit, needs looking at!
Yes that is right 4 league points.
You get 3 league points for winning a 30p dym.
and i do play mainly HU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIomf4Tjmno&feature=related
I only just realised it was unfair recently, as last time i had no hope of making the final, whereas this time, im going for it. So its time to shout innit.
Instead of giving league points for russian roulettes, why not give them "sky vegas" tokens that they can use towards sky vegas...
I'm sure it will be done eventually and it will be a case of better late than never but it will just make me wonder why it's taken so long when the arguments against it have never changed.
As for the player, can't blame them, they're just doing their best to make it onto TSP within the current (highly flawed) rules.
I play 50p/£1 and will make the top 30 by the end of the period. All I'm doing using the loop holes in the system to try and find the easiest route to TSP. The options are....
A.Play just cash, make a decent profit, and finish top 30 but then have to play in the hardest MTT lineup on Sky.
B. Grind loads and loads of MTT's which I am really bad at multi tabling MTT's because of the different mind sets at different times in a tournament. Also I work so can't play all the easy small field MTT's in the daytime.
C. Multi table £1 RR's easily make the top 30 but lose money because of the rake.
I felt option 3 was the best way. I will still make top 30 in cash so I am not 'cheating' my way onto the team, I am merely using the fact that RR's give league points to my advantage and get into what I feel is a softer field.
I am generating a lot of rake by doing this for Sky, as well as generating a lot of rake on the 100nl, my rakeback by the end of the month will be around £500 minimum so it will more than cover my losses in the RR's.
FWIW I agree that russian roulettes should not have league points. Sky didn't change it so I used it to my advantage.
Next time you have an issue why not consult the person than make personal attacks on the forum, you just make yourself look bad....
just had a look in s.scope ,
one player has already played today around 200 X £1 roulette hu games ,
if he continues this today alone say he plays 800 games wins 400 .
400 x 3pts = 1,200 pts .
crazy stuff , it makes a mockery of the points system .
You still have to be very good to get through the MTT and STT leagues, but it's definitely an easier tournament.
I didn't mention your name. Why consult you, when I know that you know what you are up to and that you have already made your decision.
You are not breaking any rules. You obviously want an "easier" route to TSP, so fair play. I agree with what John Connor said.
I was just mentioning the example of a regular 100nl player who felt the need to play roulettes, to highlight the difficulties with the current stt league. I can assure you that it wasnt an attack on you. Good Luck to you.
I have revised my opening post slightly to make it appear less harsh.
could some please
a) link me to details of the league/promotion (i have checked my promotions and cant find) please help
b) tell me or link me to where i can find league standings
c) tell me if it is a 3 month league again
thanks in advance
problem is m8y if more then 30 players do this it will cost a lot more then £80 to get a place.
what figure does it stop at then ?
plus unless s&g players join in the rr way ,
they are wasting their time making the extra effort to play proper s&g poker games .
i have done my own detective work and eventually got there
Flash,
Not sure on this but I'd check it out, if you qualify for both the Cash and STT finals isn't it sky who decide on which you enter or is it based on your qualifying position in each. Would be a shame to dump £XX's playing RR's and still end up in the cash final.
Either way it demonstrates the fact that you want to be on the team and I can't see anything wrong with that, in fact you should be given credit for wanting it rather than be criticised in such an underhand manner. Nor would I question someone wishing to avoid the strongest final to get on the team, there's no denying the cash final contains a nightmare field.
The genius of this system is that it encourages everyone who wants to be on the team to play more, but the reality is that unless you play cash at a reasonable level you won't earn enough bonus to enter more live events and if non cash players try grinding cash it will likely end in tears. In reality anyone who makes the team and wants to stay on it will have to take on the cash players (as Flash already does) and that's no easy ride.
But one thing for sure is that i wont resort to RR's myself. Out of principle.
Stien, there is nothing underhand about this thread, my comments are on an open forum and clear and i am not criticising Flash. Indeed, i have said fair play to him if that's what he wishes to do. I just think its ridiculous for a very good cash player to feel that he has to play RR's!
My only gripe with his decision is in the opening post, the inference that stt players are so much more inferior than cash players. Flash said himself that he was not hiding what he was doing, or how else would i have found out about it? Of course it is commendable that he is desperate to get on TSP, and i wish him every luck...
I have sent Flash a PM to explain further and to apologise for any offence caused.
I think on their day a good STT player can win any tournament- the difference is cash players tend to bring their A game on almost every occasion.