setups,action hands,just how often is often?

djblacke04

Favouritism?

Hand History #371429772 (22:39 13/05/2011)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
djblacke04	Small blind		300.00	300.00	21162.50
jgn	Big blind		600.00	900.00	11445.00
	Your hole cards	6 7
Invoker	Fold
chiltonnic	Fold
yidette9	Fold
djblacke04	Raise		1200.00	2100.00	19962.50
jgn	Call		900.00	3000.00	10545.00
Flop
		Q 3 K
djblacke04	Bet		1800.00	4800.00	18162.50
jgn	All-in		10545.00	15345.00	0.00
djblacke04	Call		8745.00	24090.00	9417.50
djblacke04	Show	6 7
jgn	Show	J K
Turn
		6
River
		Q

djblacke04

Hand History #371431527 (22:41 13/05/2011)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
yidette9	Small blind		300.00	300.00	10720.00
djblacke04	Big blind		600.00	900.00	7617.50
	Your hole cards	A J
jgn	Raise		1200.00	2100.00	22590.00
Invoker	Fold
chiltonnic	Fold
yidette9	Fold
djblacke04	Call		600.00	2700.00	7017.50
Flop
		J 8 6
djblacke04	Check
jgn	Bet		1200.00	3900.00	21390.00
djblacke04	Call		1200.00	5100.00	5817.50
Turn
		A
djblacke04	Check
jgn	Bet		3000.00	8100.00	18390.00
djblacke04	All-in		5817.50	13917.50	0.00
jgn	Call		2817.50	16735.00	15572.50
djblacke04	Show	A J
jgn	Show	6 6
River
		3

djblacke04

of course not...lol

Hand History #371416563 (22:17 13/05/2011)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
djblacke04	Small blind		200.00	200.00	26480.00
jgn	Big blind		400.00	600.00	5817.50
	Your hole cards	A 6
Invoker	Fold
cricket119	Call		400.00	1000.00	3305.00
Hosss	Fold
yidette9	Fold
djblacke04	Raise		1200.00	2200.00	25280.00
jgn	All-in		5817.50	8017.50	0.00
cricket119	Fold
djblacke04	Call		4817.50	12835.00	20462.50
djblacke04	Show	A 6
jgn	Show	2 2
Flop
		6 6 4
Turn
		2
River
		10

djblacke04

so thats 3 all with same player on same table and within 25 mins ....:)

pod1

he was ahead on the first 2 hands pre!!!! and he cant put you on a 6 in the last. really got to look at those hands again  before you post lol

DOHHHHHHH

500 games

-$400

If sky r helping him out, they aren't doing a v good job of it.

Maybe he's just better than you.......

djblacke04

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

he was ahead on the first 2 hands pre!!!! and he cant put you on a 6 in the last. really got to look at those hands again  before you post lol
Posted by pod1

erm what is title of thread?

grantorino

pretty standard stuff, ul

djblacke04

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

pretty standard stuff, ul
Posted by grantorino

i would like to see someone else,win 3 flips in a row,being the shortstack..on the same table..:)

grantorino

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often? : i would like to see someone else,win 3 flips in a row,being the shortstack..on the same table..:)
Posted by djblacke04

works 4 me

unknown_username

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often? : works 4 me
Posted by grantorino

LOL it's worked for you in your first 7 games. Come back after 700 games and we'll have a bed ready for you )

grantorino

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often? : LOL it's worked for you in your first 7 games. Come back after 700 games and we'll have a bed ready for you )
Posted by elsadog

keep it warm, everyone ends up here eventually

JockBMW

I would hate to see how you would react if you really did get hit with a bad beat ;o)

We may have to create AREA 52.......... Area 51 now appears to be a place to post hands where you go in behind and get beat ;o)

unknown_username

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

I would hate to see how you would react if you really did get hit with a bad beat ;o) We may have to create AREA 52.......... Area 51 now appears to be a place to post hands where you go in behind and get beat ;o)
Posted by JockBMW

Just for you Lambretta Man )

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
eltoad	Small blind		800.00	800.00	59643.51
elsadog	Big blind		1600.00	2400.00	10323.24
	Your hole cards	Q Q
Cardbeater	Fold
The_Dram	Raise		6400.00	8800.00	21615.00
UPTOYOU	Fold
eltoad	Fold
elsadog	All-in		10323.24	19123.24	0.00
The_Dram	Call		5523.24	24646.48	16091.76
elsadog	Show	Q Q
The_Dram	Show	10 10
Flop
		3 5 6
Turn
		10
River
		10
The_Dram	Win	Four 10s	24646.48

My tournaments are becoming a little predictable on Sky. They all follow a similar pattern - Slow start, then make a few chips and develop it into a comfortable stack up to about 20 before the bubble. Then I go into a sequence of hole cards which all contain either a 2 or a 3. Last night was no exception and I had a run of 40 hands of complete junk. I managed to hang in by stealing a hand or two and passed the bubble as Mr Shortstack for the third night in a row. After the bubble burst my cards suddenly improved and I managed to get from 1.3k to 12k. Then I got 33 - aha! says I, and folded them just as I had the night before. There were 2 all-ins and the board cards were 39Kxx - the other two players had AK and 99 just as they had the night before. Well thinks I, ''I managed to avoid that and what a coincidence that exact same scenario happening again tonight.'' A few hands later the above happened - seems that when it's your turn to go out then there is just no way of escaping.

DOHHHHHHH

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In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often? : Just for you Lambretta Man ) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance eltoad Small blind   800.00 800.00 59643.51 elsadog Big blind   1600.00 2400.00 10323.24   Your hole cards Q Q       Cardbeater Fold         The_Dram Raise   6400.00 8800.00 21615.00 UPTOYOU Fold         eltoad Fold         elsadog All-in   10323.24 19123.24 0.00 The_Dram Call   5523.24 24646.48 16091.76 elsadog Show Q Q       The_Dram Show 10 10       Flop     3 5 6       Turn     10       River     10       The_Dram Win Four 10s 24646.48 My tournaments are becoming a little predictable on Sky. They all follow a similar pattern - Slow start, then make a few chips and develop it into a comfortable stack up to about 20 before the bubble. Then I go into a sequence of hole cards which all contain either a 2 or a 3. Last night was no exception and I had a run of 40 hands of complete junk. I managed to hang in by stealing a hand or two and passed the bubble as Mr Shortstack for the third night in a row. After the bubble burst my cards suddenly improved and I managed to get from 1.3k to 12k. Then I got 33 - aha! says I, and folded them just as I had the night before. There were 2 all-ins and the board cards were 39Kxx - the other two players had AK and 99 just as they had the night before. Well thinks I, ''I managed to avoid that and what a coincidence that exact same scenario happening again tonight.'' A few hands later the above happened - seems that when it's your turn to go out then there is just no way of escaping.
Posted by elsadog

People post all sorts of totallty standard hands to try and prove the rng is faulty.

Normally bad beats or coolers, like the hand you have posted in the post above, which is both a cooler and a bad beat.

However, if you can post the 2 hand histories that you have described above, it really would be stranger/more suspicious than any other hand ID, or series of hand ID's I've seen in area 51.

If that exact same scenario really did play out in successive nights, with those hands, they wont be hard to find in your hand history, and it would be quite an amazing co-incidence.

PROOF FTW!!!!

unknown_username

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often? : People post all sorts of totallty standard hands to try and prove the rng is faulty. Normally bad beats or coolers, like the hand you have posted in the post above, which is both a cooler and a bad beat. However, if you can post the 2 hand histories that you have described above, it really would be stranger/more suspicious than any other hand ID, or series of hand ID's I've seen in area 51. If that exact same scenario really did play out in successive nights, with those hands, they wont be hard to find in your hand history, and it would be quite an amazing co-incidence. PROOF FTW!!!!
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I'm staggered!! - you mean you don't believe me?  )

(I'm out all day but I'll have a little looksy later )

DOHHHHHHH

Nah, I believe you, it would just be interesting to see something genuinely weird/suspicious in here for once, rather than the totally standard hands that are normally posted.

djblacke04

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often? : People post all sorts of totallty standard hands to try and prove the rng is faulty. Normally bad beats or coolers, like the hand you have posted in the post above, which is both a cooler and a bad beat. However, if you can post the 2 hand histories that you have described above, it really would be stranger/more suspicious than any other hand ID, or series of hand ID's I've seen in area 51. If that exact same scenario really did play out in successive nights, with those hands, they wont be hard to find in your hand history, and it would be quite an amazing co-incidence. PROOF FTW!!!!
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

As i keep saying there is nothing wrong with the RNG at all...it does what it says on the tin......

what happens after is they key.....

the software algorithm,

i have a few friends ,that know what they are talking about..:)

ps QQ is standard exit hand ..... into dominated pair....

pod1

who writes the algorithms dj?

unknown_username

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who writes the algorithms dj?
Posted by pod1

TSP - the company that verifies the RNG

unknown_username

Ok so my memory isn't what it was (

They weren't EXACTLY the same but they are the same scenario. Three action hands, pair vs pair vs overcards and hitting set over set on the flop. In both cases I was short stacked just pre-bubble. HH's are below - 1st is Friday's and 2nd is Saturday's.



PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceLeonard77 Small blind  300.00 300.00 13776.00 notorious Big blind  600.00 900.00 19714.02  Your hole cards 6 6    topdonk Fold     elsadog All-in  4670.50 5570.50 0.00 gixxerk4 All-in  16037.28 21607.78 0.00 Leonard77 Fold     notorious Call  15437.28 37045.06 4276.74 notorious Show 9 9    elsadog Show 6 6    gixxerk4 Show A Q    Flop  6 9 3    Turn  2    River  8    notorious Win Three 9s 37045.06



PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceelsadog Small blind  200.00 200.00 7585.37 notorious Big blind  400.00 600.00 14953.00  Your hole cards 3 3    wynne1938 Raise  1000.00 1600.00 9990.00 pokerkat All-in  4108.00 5708.00 0.00 tortoise Fold     elsadog Fold     notorious Fold     wynne1938 Call  3108.00 8816.00 6882.00 wynne1938 Show K A    pokerkat Show 9 9    Flop  3 9 5    Turn  7    River  2    pokerkat Win Three 9s 8816.00

Interestingly in the Saturday one, ''WYNNE1938'' was the CL when he joined the table. He had over 21k - I didn't see him do anything particularly bad he just got raped time and time again.

JockBMW

If you honestly believe that there is a fault in the RNG... Notice I am not implying that anyone on here has said it is fixed.

Why don't you go and play on an online site that used real physically dealt cards to create the games.  It does exist.

Oh wait then you'd have nothing to moan about ;o)  Or would you lol

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

Ok so my memory isn't what it was ( They weren't EXACTLY the same but they are the same scenario. Three action hands, pair vs pair vs overcards and hitting set over set on the flop. In both cases I was short stacked just pre-bubble. HH's are below - 1st is Friday's and 2nd is Saturday's. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance Leonard77 Small blind   300.00 300.00 13776.00 notorious Big blind   600.00 900.00 19714.02   Your hole cards 6 6       topdonk Fold         elsadog All-in   4670.50 5570.50 0.00 gixxerk4 All-in   16037.28 21607.78 0.00 Leonard77 Fold         notorious Call   15437.28 37045.06 4276.74 notorious Show 9 9       elsadog Show 6 6       gixxerk4 Show A Q       Flop     6 9 3       Turn     2       River     8       notorious Win Three 9s 37045.06 Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance elsadog Small blind   200.00 200.00 7585.37 notorious Big blind   400.00 600.00 14953.00   Your hole cards 3 3       wynne1938 Raise   1000.00 1600.00 9990.00 pokerkat All-in   4108.00 5708.00 0.00 tortoise Fold         elsadog Fold         notorious Fold         wynne1938 Call   3108.00 8816.00 6882.00 wynne1938 Show K A       pokerkat Show 9 9       Flop     3 9 5       Turn     7       River     2       pokerkat Win Three 9s 8816.00 Interestingly in the Saturday one, ''WYNNE1938'' was the CL when he joined the table. He had over 21k - I didn't see him do anything particularly bad he just got raped time and time again.
Posted by elsadog

Blows the "chip leader always wins" theory to bits.

Maybe Wynne has a history of entering big tournys with high rake after busting a tourny in which he had a big stack.

So the rng identifies this and goes to work on him straight away. Prob make sure he doubles up early in the next tourny he enters, so the process keeps happening, until he's 10 tabling £55 Russian Roulettes and putting £100 a deal on blackjack.

V smart is the rng!

Money grabbin b*****ds !!!

unknown_username

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

If you honestly believe that there is a fault in the RNG... Notice I am not implying that anyone on here has said it is fixed. Why don't you go and play on an online site that used real physically dealt cards to create the games.  It does exist. Oh wait then you'd have nothing to moan about ;o)  Or would you lol
Posted by JockBMW

Who rattled your cage?

loonytoons

There is no such thing as set up action hands!


PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancehijimhere Small blind  10.00 10.00 1970.00 gruffallo Big blind  20.00 30.00 1980.00   Your hole cards K K       2409 Fold     loonytoons Raise  100.00 130.00 1990.00 gwatty28 Raise  340.00 470.00 1650.00 Ballsey Fold     hijimhere All-in  1970.00 2440.00 0.00 gruffallo Fold     loonytoons All-in  1990.00 4430.00 0.00 gwatty28 All-in  1650.00 6080.00 0.00 loonytoons Unmatched bet  100.00 5980.00 100.00 hijimhere Show A A    loonytoons Show K K    gwatty28 Show A K    Flop    5 Q J       Turn    6       River    2       hijimhere Win Pair of Aces 5960.00  5960.00 loonytoons Win Pair of Kings 20.00  120.00 PrevClose windowNext

And the funny thing was i had a feeling the AA was out their, but as it was only a £2 DYM i thought what the hell! and this was like the 3rd hand!

unknown_username

Note the promise of a nut flush on the flop. That's just in case the players didn't go all in preflop - the AA and KK are going nowhere and neither is the AKs on that flop.

Action all the way ............

Over to you Jock )

JockBMW

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Note the promise of a nut flush on the flop. That's just in case the players didn't go all in preflop - the AA and KK are going nowhere and neither is the AKs on that flop. Action all the way ............ Over to you Jock )
Posted by elsadog

Those who chase a Straight or Flush

Arrive by Plane , go home on a Bus 

;o)

unknown_username

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often? : Those who chase a Straight or Flush Arrive by Plane , go home on a Bus  ;o)
Posted by JockBMW

Those who ride Bayerische Motoren Werke's, fail to see the RNG's quirks  )

(AA or RAC membership is a must for a Brakes Might Work btw.)

djblacke04

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

If you honestly believe that there is a fault in the RNG... Notice I am not implying that anyone on here has said it is fixed. Why don't you go and play on an online site that used real physically dealt cards to create the games.  It does exist. Oh wait then you'd have nothing to moan about ;o)  Or would you lol
Posted by JockBMW

Actually Jock,there was a site,but has since been shutdown.....because the wrapper that they used to take the real deck,( they borrowed this of another large network poker site)to the players was found to be altering the order of the cards....and thus dealing the winning hands to whoever it so wanted...

...

djblacke04

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often?:

In Response to Re: setups,action hands,just how often is often? : Those who chase a Straight or Flush Arrive by Plane , go home on a Bus  ;o)
Posted by JockBMW

And maybe if you get a real deck of cards.....

see how long it takes you to deal (6 handed)  even if you give AA to someone,to get AK and KK in the same hands,then the flop of nut flush draw+straight draw...

lol

'he has no clothes on' said the little boy..:)

pod1

so what your saying is the rng is str coz its liscienced and the algorithm is bent coz it aint?