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This is not me making excuses BUt ppl seem to be getting kick out of broadcasting whats going on and throwing weight about........... like chuffin Judge Judy on here.
Having a nickname 'Crazy'Ben u should be banned for life, totally unacceptable, same thing.
Ive tried apologising and drawing a line under it but some ppl cant let go...........
There are sky members with children and relatives who have downs syndrome etc and as team51 captain I could never justify to them, having a member who uses such derogatory language to compare poker players to the disabled, handicapped and less fortunate members of society.
Scotty: As a member of Team Sky Poker you think we have gone too far because we as a team of players find the comparison of bad poker players to the mentally handicapped unacceptable. I would be interested to know just what kind of remarks you do find unacceptable. As the current ''face of Sky'' I find your involvement intriguing.
I think most of you know me by now on here,
i speak my mind and
is my own man .
At first i thought it unfair he should not get a second chance & my intention was to argue his case & get him reinstated .
But in doing so after discussion over 2 hours last night with a few peeps,
who were around when he repeated his muck , hence here the repeating part with a 30 mins time frame is just inexcusable .
Plus His choice ,
no one else,s but him left the muck there all morning
afternoon and most of the evening without care of it offending or it being deleted by a mod .
Then very late 10 pm ish at night time he apologizes .
so the time frame is key here.
Had it being a rant & quick apology on a drunking friday night ,
things may have being different .
Denis
p.s One thing i instill in my kids & live by ,
anyone on planet earth with less
ability mentally or physically then you,
deserve a lot more respect & need to be looked up to for carrying their
disabilities through life .
The strong & the rich & the famous & the able,
they are lucky they can look after themselves .
I don't think there was any need for this to be dealt with publicly on Sky Forums like this. This could, and should have been dealt with off the forums and on the 51er page imo.
Public floggings like this serve no useful purpose, other to get people riled up. Peacock made a mistake in comparison & literation, apologised and retracted.
Falling out with each other after the fact also seems pretty pointless. Is it not probably time for all concerned to draw a line under this and move on?
xx
Did you actually read the posts in question? - do you know the terms used?
You wouldn't be shocked by those terms used? What if you were the parent of a Downs Syndrome child - would you still be de-sensitised?
This had been going on since the morning. We did not name the player. We made a statement because as a team we will not be associated by a member speaking like that. We wanted to distance the team from it publicly.
everyone says throw away comments and he has noticed his mistake and apologised so be it.
Head up peacock and good luck at the tables
Did you see the thread in question?
Mac
Regardless it has been summarised enough here to make my own judgement, obviously i dont condone using the word 'downs' or anything along that lines. But the principle is he has seen the errors in his way and apologised, like i said if you feel the need to eject him from your team so be it.
This has gone OTT as it is IMO this should have been dealt in house or by pm's, bringing up in GPC and to the general eye just silly
That is not emotional blackmail. You made the statement about being de-sensitized to these kind of remarks - that is not an excuse for acceptance. Deflecting it back to me as being out of line is not on. There are no circumstances where it is acceptable!
You know nothing about the terms used. That is obvious. This went on for many hours yesterday and should have been deleted at an early stage. The team were implicated and felt that they needed to distance themselves from the remarks, publicly.
It seems that all the people who are ''outraged'' didn't see the thread, have little or no idea about the timescale involved or the fact that many hours passed without an apology. If you find that acceptable behaviour why not sign him up?
Is this a bad time to ask if anyone wants to buy...
'I love the Sky poker Community' window stickers ?
Dealing with it in house would of been the correct choice here. Having it splashed over the Forum is akin to a witch hunt. The defendant has apologised and Team 51 has taken action. Any further action needed would be taken by Sky Poker.
The posts were unacceptable but if you search the Forums, other posters have used similar phrases/words and no action taken there.
This thread seems to be going off on a tangent now and should be closed IMHO.
i have said if you ejected him from your team so be it, its the public witchunt etc i was not a fan of
This thread should be close IMO
Would you be so kind as to point these out to me?
What relevance has that got to his forum?
The remarks were made wearing the 51 team shirt and as such we as a team wished to distance ourselves - publicly.
Really? We didn't call him names, we didn't liken him to any unfortunate, and we didn't ridicule him. We simply made a statement that a member had been excluded from the team because we felt that his behaviour was unacceptable to the team as a whole. As a team we have no control over what any member says or does, we have no means of censorship, we can however choose whether we want him in the team or not. We also have a right to publicly distance ourselves from these kind of remarks - we exorcised that right. If you don't like that so be it.
A lot of people (most of whom never even saw the thread in question) have been very critical of the decision to post it on the forum. The general consensus in the team is that we did the right thing.
i read the original post, it was very offensive, not only did he insult DS sufferers he also told another member that he should get a rope..find a tree and (well basically hang himself).
A decision has been made by our team, Toby or Alan hasn't publicly humiliated the offender or said any names in GPC.
So lets move on and play poker