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trying 2 cash @ nl4

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  • edited February 2012

    no worries.
    think  it,s good as it will keep you focused
    on your aims and targets.
    any questions you may have
    will always get an answer from someome,
    if i am able to help i,ll do my best.
    prob see you at a table.
    best wishes,
    devon

  • edited February 2012
    When are you planning on moving up through the levels?
    Have you thought about tracking your progress as you go? Then if your crushing a level you can comfortably move up with the knowledge your beating that level comfortably, you could easily play up to NL10 with your bankroll. You might be losing equity by staying at NL4, when you could be beating a higher level?
    Say you your beating NL4 for 14bb/100 (which is good) then anything over 7bb/100 at NL8 (which should be easy for you) is making you more money.
    Arron.
  • edited February 2012
    Agree with you here Swog.

    With your obvious ability to beat the level and your more than adequate bankroll you are definitely missing value here Devon. You need to at least step up to NL8 ASAP.

    Very well played and well done so far mate. Good solid progress.
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: trying 2 cash @ nl4:
    When are you planning on moving up through the levels? Have you thought about tracking your progress as you go? Then if your crushing a level you can comfortably move up with the knowledge your beating that level comfortably, you could easily play up to NL10 with your bankroll. You might be losing equity by staying at NL4, when you could be beating a higher level? Say you your beating NL4 for 14bb/100 (which is good) then anything over 7bb/100 at NL8 (which should be easy for you) is making you more money. Arron.
    Posted by Swog
    I'm new to cash. What is 14bb/100??
    Cheers, Ryan
  • edited February 2012
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  • edited February 2012
    how many big blinds won per 100 hands.
  • edited February 2012
    thanks Arron,sjspanky,
    got to agree with u both,
    probably is now about the right time
    to think about moving up level/levels.

    was playing £3.30 dym,s up until jan 17th,2012,
    and doing pretty well.
    but thought,let,s give cash another go
    as i do know that,s where you can win serious money,
    obviously,if u r good enough,
    hence this thread.

    so,onto tonight,

    won £22.18

    sessions played 19

    won 15  +£90.31
    lost  4   -£19.81

    cash b/roll +£70.50
    b/roll  £476.18

    *****************

    so,what to do?
    think i should at least continue nl4
    until i get b/roll up to £500
    as that was always my original aim.

    then it,s time to consider my options,
    do i try nl8,
    a level i,ve never considered playing b4.
    go to nl10
    which i have dabbled at b4,
    lost 7 buy-ins ages ago,
    going all-in pre flop with from memory,
    aa twice, kk 2 times & qq 3 times.
    so not got good memories there...lol

    anyway,
    happy with tonight,
    and obviously,delighted with how well
    it,s all going atm,
    as i really didn,t have any idea how it would go
    just those few weeks ago.
    got to say again how greatfull i am
    to everyone that has  very kindly helped me
    as i know 4 sure i wouldn,t be getting these results
    that i am now.
    THANK YOU.....SO MUCH.

    that,s all 4 now ...
    best wishes

    devon




  • edited February 2012
     Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £1.84
    dantb10 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £4.16
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
         
    CHARLIE201 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £4.54
    devonfish5 Raise  £0.20 £0.30 £4.49
    kano47 Fold     
    redmaz Fold     
    dantb10 Call  £0.16 £0.46 £4.00
    CHARLIE201 Fold     
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • 9
    • J
         
    dantb10 Bet  £0.35 £0.81 £3.65
    devonfish5 Call  £0.35 £1.16 £4.14
    Turn
       
    • 9
         
    dantb10 Bet  £0.87 £2.03 £2.78
    devonfish5 Call  £0.87 £2.90 £3.27
    River
       
    • 2
         
    dantb10 All-in  £2.78 £5.68 £0.00
    devonfish5 Call  £2.78 £8.46 £0.49
    dantb10 Show
    • 8
    • 10
       
    devonfish5 Show
    • Q
    • Q
       
    devonfish5 Win Full House, Queens and 9s £7.82  £8.31
    Close windowjust had 2 put this one in.....lol
  • edited February 2012
    Firstly what the hell is Dantb10 doing at NL4 !?

    Secondly raise more pre, raise flop, raise turn.
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: trying 2 cash @ nl4:
    Firstly what the hell is Dantb10 doing at NL4 !?
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    ^ This
  • edited February 2012
    do u mean 4 me to raise carl?
    guessing u do.
    as i know dan tb is very aggro,
    once he bets  3/4 pot or so,
    on flop,i actually did put him on the run.
    so i knew i was behind with my trip queens.
    then when he bets again after i,ve hit the world,
    a call was all that was needed
    as thought he,d go all-in on river,as he did.
    played it perfect!!!

    :-)

    happy days.

    devon
  • edited February 2012
    Well I guess against him specifically it's ok as you know he can bluff but against most randoms it's best to raise especially on the flop.
  • edited February 2012
    true mate,
    but u,ve just said it,"against him"
    got to give me some credit i think,
    i did get his stack.
    but i know what u mean.
    that,s where it really does pay to know your man,
    and i make notes all the time
    as i am playing,because we all have betting patterns
    even the top players,as i,ve just shown.
    that,s why i do mix up my bet sizes alot,
    as i,m sure alot of players do or should imo.
    anyway,
    hands gone,
    devonfish 1 dan tb 0
    :-)
  • edited February 2012
    short session,

    won £4.56  :-)

    played 20 won 16  +£94.87
                  lost   4  -£19.81

    cash b/roll £75.06
    b/roll £480.74
    c4p  717

    devon

                  
  • edited February 2012
    nice work....keep it goin
  • edited February 2012
    cheers buddy, :-)

    and you

    devon
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: trying 2 cash @ nl4:
    Firstly what the hell is Dantb10 doing at NL4 !? Secondly raise more pre, raise flop, raise turn.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
     He was on 10/12 NL4 tables that night until league sters freeroll started then he closed them all down.

     Strange!!!!!
  • edited February 2012
    times must be harder than i thought   ..lol
    :-)
  • edited February 2012
    just out of interest what kinda C4P should i be aiming to earn per hour per NL4 table?

    I have just been playing 5 for an hour and made 8 is this normal?
  • edited February 2012
    Yep, Cash for Points at 2p/4p are pretty negligible, and was recently made worse.
  • edited February 2012
    please stay off my tables devon....you bring me bad luck!!!! haha

    gl m8
  • edited February 2012
    sorry m8.
    didn,t have any myself last night,

    lost £12.66
    just a rubbish session that u get now & then,
    was down £20 at one point,so i know could have been worse.

    sessions played  21
    won  16  +£94.87
    lost   5   -£32.47

    cash b/roll  £62.40
    b/roll £468.08
    c49  785

    not happy,but hey,
    got to take the rough with the smooth.

    looks like the £500 target
    will have to wait a little bit longer...lol
    still,never said it was going to be easy

    devon
  • edited February 2012
    yeh, c4p
    used 2 make 4 points per table per hour,
    now it,s only 2 points.
    seems rubbish in comparison,
    but as long as you are making over the 500 a month
    it,s still something,£4
    think u need to be making anything over 1500 points
    to be better off,as b4 up to 1999 was worth £15,
    now that would b worth £19.99.
    think that,s correct...lol
    still getting used to it myself.


    devon
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: trying 2 cash @ nl4:
    yeh, c4p used 2 make 4 points per table per hour, now it,s only 2 points. seems rubbish in comparison, but as long as you are making over the 500 a month it,s still something,£4 think u need to be making anything over 1500 points to be better off,as b4 up to 1999 was worth £15, now that would b worth £19.99. think that,s correct...lol still getting used to it myself. devon
    Posted by devonfish5
    yeah thought it had gone down some played 5 tables for an hour last night only went up like 7 points was wondering if i just hadnt played enough hands but clearley not.
  • edited February 2012
    where 2 start,
    with the facts i guess,

    lost £25.38  sessions played 22
    won 16  +£94.87
    lost   6  -£57.85

    cash b/roll £37.02
    b/roll £442.70

    from playing like a a god
    to playing like a dog.
    ran badly
    played badly
    enough said!

    going to have to re-access
    after playing until the end of the month.
    as playing is so up and down
    from day 2 day.
    even though i,ve just lost
    i am not giving in as i do know these down-swings happen.
    i could post up some hands
    but some are just laughable,players staying in 4 in-side gut shots
    4 example and hitting them.
    i,m sure u,ve all been there,got the t-shirts etc,
    so i won,t even go there.

    tomorrow,s another day as they say
    so sure i,ll be  back.
    at least i,m hoping this is just about
    as bad as it gets.
    well lets hope so anyway.

    only consolation is,
    i know i,ve always got dym,s to fall back on,
    so Dudeskin,make the most of me being away,
    i could be back sooner than you think...lol

    i might be losing my hair my teeth and my mind,
    but at least i,ve not lost my sense of humour!!!
    YET

    devon
  • edited February 2012
    just about getting over the other night.
    played a few dym,s earlier,
    just had 2 get away from cash tables 4 a while.
    played 10
    w6 l 4
    won £3.00

    forced myself back 2 cash tonight,
    won £2.02...phew
    sessions played 23
    won 17  +£96.89
    lost  6   -£57.85

    cash b/roll  +£39.04
    b/roll  £447.72

    going 2 try same again,
    when playing 2 sessions
    dym,s during day,
    cash at night.
    confident with my dym play,
    so hoping if i can continue winning these
    at least if i do have any more losing cash sessions,
    which i know will obviously  happen,
    the dym,s will help to at least keep b/roll healthy.

    c4p 989

    good night
    devon
  • edited February 2012
    Unlucky on that recent bad session mate, at least you have the security that it doesn't make up a MASSIVE chunk of your roll so it shouldn't tilt you etc. And overall you're up almost 10 BI's at NL4 which is pretty good by anyones standards so just keep plugging away imo ;).

    Oh and I'm having a go at the £5.50's for a bit now so will hopefully not be playing you at all lol
  • edited February 2012
    thanks m8,
    good luck @ £5.50
    let me know how u get on.
    yes,as u say still doing ok.
    like  we,ve always said,
    as long as u r rolled 4 the right level
    it doesn,t kill you does it.
    it,s only a minor set back.
    still taught me 2 walk away from a table in future
    not stay trying 2 chase lost money,
    as i only lost badly on 1 table(£17)
    to a very loose player hitting everything.

    playing freeroll in a mo
    +some dym,s,
    at least i shouldn,t run into you...hopefully...lol

    run well
    devon
  • edited February 2012
    won £9.51

    sessions played 24
    won 18  +£106.40
    lost   6  -£57.85

    cash b/roll £48.55
    b/roll  £460.23

    nice 2 b back winning again...lol
    ran ok
    played ok

    c49 1025

    devon
  • edited February 2012
       FINAL UP-DATE

    the trying 2 cash@nl4 challenge  is over....

    although i have not reached my target of £500 bankroll
    i did manage to win £88(up-date;in total,with c4p,etc)
    revised cash winings + £48.55
    so not the £88 as first detailed
    still a profit though,so still very happy with that.
    and finish with a b/roll of £460.

    so ,not a bad effort.
    (also,i did learn from it that i could play cash at this level,
    and make a small profit in the process,
    and not simply come out level,
    as i had done previously.so all in all,very happy...:-)


    the reason i have finished this challenge,
    as follows

    today ,i have withdrawn £400 from my sky poker account,
    to use towards buying
    a new computer,an intel core i7 2600k 3.4 Ghz 8GBddr3ram 500tb hard drive,
    for anyone interested.
    they retail in the shops at around £750
    i have also added a dedicated graphic card,at £50 extra.
    and windows 7,£80 extra
    buying on-line from
    Component Warehouse.co.uk
    wait 4 it......
    £579.99


    so,
    what next.
    just chilling atm,
    playing 7pm freeroll.

    waiting for new computer,
    end nxt week.
    start a new challenge i guess,
    as i now only have £60 to play with
    i think it will be another dym thingy,
    will have a little think about it.

    reasons 4 buying a new computer,
    simple,
    multi-tabling.
    i am planning to start off playing 9 dym tables
    somewhere between £1 and £3 levels.
    and go from there,
    hopefully if i am able to build up my b/roll again,
    i will just keep on increasing number of tables i play
    until i get to to around 18/20 tables.

    as for playing cash?
    not too  sure, i will still visit tables i,m sure at some point,
    it,s not as if they are going anywhere,are they.

    anyway,
    to finish,
    i would just like to thank everyone that took the time and effort
    in helping me along the way with my challenge.
    you were all very kind and willing to help me,
    and i really am very greatfull to you all.
    i am not going to name names,
    as you all know who you are.
    i would also like to thank everyone that read my reports
    and thank you for all your comments...

    to all of you players with your own diaries/challenges  going atm,
    i wish you luck.
    keep posting too,as i enjoy reading them
    as i,m sure does everyone else.

    it was fun
    it was hard some nights
    it was up and down
    it was a nightmare trying to paste that b****y hand  lol
    but,
    above all..
    it was enjoyable

    :-)

    devon




     
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