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I myself enjoy the banter between the guys on the show whatever the subject because it is always done in a lighthearted way and gives the show a more friendly appeal.
Would love to see the old mastercash format brought back with a full night dedicated to cash and all levels of play shown even if this was only to happen once a month.
Also really enjoyed the section the other night where one players hole cards were hidden.
Massive +1 to some of the guests sky have had on the shows though and imo this part of the channel can not be improved
1) Just as nobody really wants to hear about an unknown player winning an unknown tournament, people don't really care about something that happened three-and-a-half weeks ago.
2) If something noteworthy does happen it's inevitable that it will be discussed on the regular shows. If Full Tilt re-launched tomorrow, it would be absurd for the presenters and analysts to ignore it for another couple of weeks so they can make a Chat Box show of it.
I think Chat Box, if it is to continue, must be a weekly show for it to remain relevant. An hour is far too long though.
I can't agree with AceGooner that more people would watch the show on Saturdays than Tuesdays. People like to go out on Saturdays and there is a great deal more competition on other channels on Saturday anyway. Match Of The Day or one of those Ant and Dec shows would be examples. People are far more likely to stay in on a Tuesday. I much prefer the Tuesday/Thursday/Sunday schedule.
Finally, I would not want to see the return of celebrity guests playing in the studio. Back in ye' olden days when this was a feature it was always a bit tedious. Most of the guests were either not very good players or not very interesting characters. In fact many were neither good nor interesting. The understandable reluctance of the presenters and analysts to be truly critical of the mistakes these players were making and the inabilty of these players to explain their thought processes made for pretty unedifying viewing.
Besides this; bringing these people onto the show, only to shove them into the corner for all but five minutes of every hour didn't make alot of sense to me. If they're not knowledgable enough to make a full contribution, then why bring them onto a poker show at all? Soccer Saturday doesn't need cameos from Daniel Negreanu or Phil Hellmuth. Why should Sky Poker bring on Kenny Dalglish or Jimmy Armfield?
Looking at it the other way; if you get the chance to have a fantastic poker mind on the show, why would you want them sitting quietly, clicking mouse buttons?
Yes i would have interest in some player i've never heard of who is British and won a WSOP event, and i do have interest in whos won SPTs, UKIPTs and EPTs(only when held on British or Irish soil or a Brit wins).
Insead of Chatbox maybe these topics could be used slowly throughout the entire night as the break up between hands when their not doing the competition at that point.
The poker clinic i used to love, but i believe theirs leagal issues regarding 99% of clinic hands not being from a tv table. The only other option is that Sky make every table a tv table.
Fwiw i'd like to see another dedicated cash show on a Saturday night but imo it would have to work slightly different.
Hour 1 is NL10
Hour 2 is NL20
Hour 3 is NL50
Hour 4 is NL100(or 200)
Hour 5 is Top of the Pots.
Keep it simple and fair to all bankrolls in my opinion then. I know recently NL10 has been shown alot but i always did feel in previous the big names got too much tele time. Which is good because we can see how they play but i think even the experts sometimes struggle because often a hand is leveled or reads based, which of coarse makes life dificult for the expert and will always confuse a new player watching for the first time to learn the basic principles of poker.
Although it's hardly an original idea, I would suggest a monthly Super-Roller type event could be a good solution. There are still repeats of the Jubilee Super-Roller being shown so obviously it is possible.
Again, though, I'm forced to say I wouldn't agree with bringing back a full Mastercash night. There's enough Mastercash action in the shows as they are: Mastercash on Tuesdays, Top Of The Pots on Thursdays and on Tonight on Sky Poker on both Tuesdays and Sundays. That's four hours a week - the same as the old Saturday Mastercash shows.
Perhaps I do enjoy being contrary.
Of course, I doubt that much of this will actually be implemented anyway. We can but hope. lol
That's enough from me now.
Even if it is for just 1 night a week.
I liked watching the primo on the Sunday, and the Thursday bounty hunter.
I don't see why you cant blend some of the new shows into the previous format so everyone is happy????
Also bring back the guests grinding cash or the main events.
can we get the baby and some bathwater back please?
I usually switch over when this comes on.
it guess that hand selection is a huge task. to select hands relevant to a particular show topic so much more difficult.
to help, it might require an increase in the number of people selecting hands. alternatively (additionally) if there was a separate section of the forum, with a form with tick boxes, easily accessed and completed, this would help in the task greatly.
The shows may not be perfect for everybody but they are educational and will improve your game.
A few thoughts:
1) Overall the current format is better than the old format.
2) The quality of analysts is first class. I thought James Hartigan was excellent over the last month or so and made excellent points with good humour. That is not to knock the other analysts as Tikay, Jen, Stu, Scotty & Redmond are all top class as well.
3) Chat box suffers because of the variation of volume of topics and how interesting they are. Perhaps one idea might be to include performances of SKY players in poker tours and festivals and include phone interviews with them.
4) When the new format first started the Tuesday night show picked up the PRIMO from where they left off on the Sunday in the first hour which tidied things up nicely. Can we go back to this practice.
5) The point made elsewhere about the hand selections is totally valid. The hands selected for "kicker problems" and "squeeze plays" were embarrassing to viewers and presenters. Better imput required here.
6) When covering Mastercash, stick with a table for a full hour because you invariably switch tables just as we are getting used to the table dynamics.
7) I don't mind a bit of chat and a few silly competitions but the main focus has to be the poker.
8) The show on DYMs was interesting but only scratched the surface. This subject needs seperate shows on the opening levels, mid stages, bubble, shoving hands, calling hands, agression v passivity etc.
Generally love the shows and always SKY+ them.
Posted by Ice_Tiger
Agree 100%
1. lOTS MORE HANDS SHOWN FROM ONE PERSON'S PERSPECTIVE WITH ONLY ONE HAND OF THE SIX IN VIEW AND PRESENTERS/EXPERTS/GUESTS HAVING NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THEM BUT PUTTING THEIR 2P'S WORTH IN. THEN WE SEE MORE OF THE THINKING BEHIND THE PLAY. THE PROGS LAST NIGHT WERE VERY GOOD FOR THAT REASON AS IT MADE THE VIEWER A PARTICIPANT AND NOT JUST A VIEWER.
2. AS ABOVE BUT FROM SB/BB/ETC POINT OF VIEW.
3. SOME LESSONS FOR INTERMEDIATE/ADVANCED PLAYERS AND LABELLED AS SUCH.
So we are a bit constrained as to what we can & cannot say & do. We also need to pay heed to the fact that we have a completely different target audience during the simulcast - viewers who do not, for the most part, play poker. But we'd like them to.......;) So we approach it quite differently.
There is some reverse logic here, of course - during the time when we have our largest audience, we cannot legally promote the product!