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I'm asking because I am looking for the number of non DTD registered people playing i the DTD games, the low limit grinders who don't look in the forum.
Playing devils advocate (because right now I think they should have TV icons) will the TV icon affect them. Two ways I can see this happening.
1) Would non-forum/non-DTD regs of the game be put off if they had TV icons in your and other DTD reg's opinions?
2) A load of emails and table talk saying 'When will this be on TV?' I still regularly get asked by non-forum recreational players during main events when the game will be on TV, why isn't it on the channel now regardless of if it's a show night and, my favourite, can I order a DVD of my play from Sky?' The DTD is so well support there could be a deluge of such. I know this sounds like a pithy point, but when people would get negative replies or get a reply from live chat that could well be less than they had hoped for, will it annoy people to the point they won't bother playing them and lose support for the games?
I think my second point is a bit of a reach but there it is.
You are incorrigible - plays with fire on the tables - and now on the forum as well. (but good on you)
won't go through my whole wishlist.......just my top idea and top fix request
as the original poster on the topic on greghoggs timely thread about turbo tournaments i think a turbo evening is a great idea, not just one mtt as in the sky sports BH but a whole evening of quick play, like we had to do with the outage. Congrats to Greg who came up with the snappy Turbo Tuesday monika.
Just get the software working. I used to play on my phone - shouldn't have but I did. have trained myself to only use it when I have to, ie when going from A to B mid mtt. it stopped working. but at least I could sign up for tournies. Now I can't even do that - lobby won't open - can't even sign up for a tournie. And my phone is a galaxy s2 fully updated - so it ain't the phones fault.
gl with this thread, great idea but worried it might spiral out of control.
I am hoping that the community will read what has been posted by others rather than ignoring everyone else and just saying what they want. IMO we need less just talking and more listening and talking in perfect unison. That is my hope anyway.
1. I never really played these (or any BH) much, but yeah it seems common sense that if they smash the guarantees, and there aren't enough people to play the £5.75s then it's bad. Many people are more than happy to play more than 1 table nowadays, especially wtih people getting experience of it in the DTD, so definitely room to have a £2.30 and a £5.75 that don't start too far apart from each other IMO.
2. DTD TV tables - It's a tricky one, because pretty much every forum player wants it (me included) but really the only people that want it are pretty much the people who already play it, so I can't see it's going to increase numbers much. Although there's probably alot of 861 watchers who aren't forum users, so it could bring more people in through that method. Maybe it's just me but the show seems to consistently struggle with people posting enough hands to show and so either have to hand pick them themselves OR show hands from the 2-3 people that are the only people who ever post hands. If the DTD were TV tables, I don't think there would ever be a shortage of hands to show and you'd get bigger variety of posters.
3. I prefer speed tournies these days so may be biased, but yeah as Dohhhh has been saying for weeks (maybe months) now, that there are virtually zero turbo tournies every single night.
Well it seems there is support for having a turbo night. To extend the question:
Would you play a large amount of a turbo night schedule?
What night of the week do you think this should take place on?
As a starting point, what do you think of Scotty's schedule a couple of posts above?
Also please expand on this as much as you want.
My answers are I would play a turbo night, I think it should either fit arond the Thursday night BHer or take place on a Tuesday and I like the schedule Scotty has suggested.
Tommy.
Let me know when you think the debate on the current topics has concluded, & I'll ensure that the right guys upstairs see the thread.
That's not to say they will agree, or change anything, but it's good feedback, & they may well take heed of some or all of it, or at least be cogniscant of it when tweaking the Tourney Schedules.
Hope springs eternal, as Mr Pope famously wrote.
I don't know the precise reasoning, but as promised, I did ask the question yesterday.
As far as I could gather, it's just part of the normal ongoing process of refreshing the portfolio of products on offer. They try different things, this & that, add stuff, remove stuff, all the time. Some are successful, some not, few are universally liked or wholy disliked, that's the nature of the beast.
If I understood the position correctly, it is an experiment, like scores of others, and at present, it will remain "as is", based, I assume, on examination of the data.
Nothing is cast in stone, though, & it may change. Just depends on numbers I would hazard a guess.
I did hear word that there will be some special Promotions in November for those who prefer to play at the lower levels - once I get the details, I'll Post accordingly.
So Joe goes to another site.
Hi Keith,
Only just seen this, & am out of time now, as I have to go to work.
I'll reply tomorrow, or over the weekend.
I much appreciated the reasoned response, as I know the subject is quite emotive.
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bet everyone at 888 is relieved you have had a break to come on sky and post.....
"....I'll reply tomorrow, or over the weekend....."
Which I guess I never said yesterday.....or even this week.
Apologies Keith, I'll reply tomorrow.*
* T & C's Apply, excludes memory overload, & dotage issues.
Yes, that all makes absolute sense, though that's not to say I agree with all of it.
They are never going to keep everyone happy, it's just not possible.
Changes to the "products" are made almost daily, & though I've not counted them, there must be hundreds of variables (different "products") on the Site.
In an ideal world, yes, it would be right grand to put all these changes up for discussion, but there are so many, & do you really think that everyone would end up agreeing, or be happy?
It is a business, & the Management are committed to growing the business, & they've done a pretty good job so far (imo). The Business continues to grow strongly, (in a declining market), so we cannot really say that they are not paying close heed to their existing, & loyal Clients, because the Business cannot grow without keeping it's Clients largely happy (it can never keep all of them happy all of the time), & at the same time, attracting lots of new Clients.
I very much doubt that, say, Sainsburys, for example, go out for consultation with all their customers before withdrawing Hovis tin loaves or whatever from sale. If we want to stick to Poker analogies, I don't think too many Online Sites consult before making fairly routine, or standard, tweaks to the schedules.
This site does more than most when it comes to (trying to) keep players informed about stuff, (or I think they do) but when they do, it is not always received in a very constructive manner.
Products come & go, it is, in any good business, a constant process to keep the product range fresh.
Of course, not all the decisions will be correct, if you or I were to make 100 decisions, we'd be millionaires if we got 95 of them right.
When "major" changes are in the pipeline, yes, it gets flagged up, but how do we define "major", as it is all relative?
"Not a tweak"? - I think that's debatable. If you consider how many products there are, spread across Cash (by FAR the biggest, bigger than everything else added together, & then some), Tourneys, & SNG's (the last two relatively equal in size), then split all of those down into the three different price bands - let's call them High, Medium, & Low - then changing a single product within those nine segments is just "routine" really.
I'm sorry - genuinely - that you & others are disappointed, & I do understand, but everything is done for a reason, & I'm sure the Business had good reasons to make these changes.
Incidentally, those changes are just to the Products - that does not include changes to the platform, which also happen with great frequency. I think 5 or 6 have been scheduled for this month already, with more still to come next week. So "change" is non-stop, & there is so much of it.
If I hear any more on this particular topic, I'll let you know.
I'm not sure much of that will appease you, but I've tried to explain things, such as I am able, anyway.
Good idea and nice to see people interested in how the site is run too.
My minor suggestion concerns the time the board takes to show the cards once players are all-in pre either preflop or post flop. I feel it takes away from the suspense/excitement of the game. Yea i know it does'nt affect win rate, games playing etc but i do feel that its too short to take in the cards needed or not. Another site tends to have a bit of a lag between flop turn and river once playerss are say , all-in preflop. Start to finish is about 8 secs and i like it myself. The sky showdown is too quick and it doesn't doesn't allow time for a quick prayer! Ha
Don't get me wrong sky is better but its a fool who believes all in our house is perfect.
Sorry guys, i realise its a very picky point and 10 tablers probably don't give a rats about it but the experience would be enhanced buzz-wise i feel. If Sky are worried about the extra time eating into profits then just cut a couple of seconds off the clock to compensate as i'm sure people wouldn't notice.
Proffie......
Catch me in the right (wrong...) mood,. & I'll tell you a cracking story about that "pause" before the river card is dealt.
This is probably not the time & place though.