Hey Waller, Limping is absolutely fine with small pocket pairs. Depends on position. If you are in later position, it's fine to raise, early position limp all the way. There isn't really a right or wrong answer, this will be dependant on position and dynamics at the table. Posted by LARSON7
I disagree.
Doing this can make you very exploitable if someone at the table is paying attention. You wouldn't limp AA under the gun. If you're gonna limp marginal hands and raise premium hands in early position then your range is all over the place and far from balanced.
I can understand the temptation to limp small pairs but if we are first to enter the pot we should come in with a raise.
If we have an active table then we can just bin the tiny pairs pre if in early position. We don't have to play them.
In Response to Re: The Story of a Broken Man (£50 or quits!!!) : I disagree. Doing this can make you very exploitable if someone at the table is paying attention. You wouldn't limp AA under the gun. If you're gonna limp marginal hands and raise premium hands in early position then your range is all over the place and far from balanced. I can understand the temptation to limp small pairs but if we are first to enter the pot we should come in with a raise. If we have an active table then we can just bin the tiny pairs pre if in early position. We don't have to play them. Posted by hhyftrftdr
Cheers for the comments all...........larson it's 4-1 to raising over limping so I guess I RAISE lol
Right, played the DTD tonight for the first time in weeks. Forgot how fun they were. Never really built a stack in 2 of them and in the other I started well but then had to fold JJ twice on unkind flops after I had 3 bet pre (then had my backside spanked every orbit!). Did manage to min cash in DTD 1 though so the night was almost free.
Gonna try to play the DTD every week from now on...........top night, all for the price of a couple of pints.
Quick update......Didn't manage to take down the TOTP game but it was a good laugh with some good banter in the rail. Plus you can never moan about a free £20!
Thanks to those who voted for me, appreciate it as it was a much needed boost to the br (Charity case!!!)
I just played mtt's. I have been having a couple of nights off from the cash tables as they were doing my nut in.
Had a go at the Win the button (or whatever it was called) mtt. Was a good laugh and made a nice change from the standard mtt formats, although it does get annoying when you are on the bb 3 or 4 times on the trot!!! Would def play this kind of tourney again though, didn't cash this time but it was only a quid to play so no biggie. Also had another crack at the 35p BH......no joy.
Played the £250 BH.......no cash, 1 head prize. But I did manage a min cash in the £500 BH along with 1 head prize. The exit hand was quite brutal, I shoved my 7bb with QJ, get looked up by guy with J3o for 1/3 of his stack...........happy days, that was until the 3 came down on the flop. Still these are the calls you want in the long run so no complaints there.
waller02026£2.12 + £0.75 Head Prizes1 The most frustrating part of the evening was being bubble, bubble boy in the £2k BH freeroll where I was 12th with 10 seats to the £11 BI mtt.........sigh. Was one of the shorties and shoved my 77 on the button only to lose to the small blind's AQ.........close but no cigar!!!!!
Hehehe377010Entry to £2,000 B/Hunterfishing196011 waller02012 Could have been a nice return had I won a seat.
So, a losing night but I did enjoy playing more than I would have done being sat on the 4nl tables. Gonna have to play some cash in the next few days to try a regain my losses though.
Forgot to mention, I also played a £2.30 SPT sat. I really wanna go and play the main. I'm 90% sure that I'm going to rail the TPTers, put some faces to names and play the Friday night sidey.....but would love to play the main too!!!
Hope you sat in, but if not definitely come anyway.
They'll be a £25 comp on the Friday night which will make good money. More more importantly though there is a well stocked bar. Plenty of TPT guys will be propping it up and be good to meet you.
Be really good if you can make it to Nottingham. Hope you sat in, but if not definitely come anyway. They'll be a £25 comp on the Friday night which will make good money. More more importantly though there is a well stocked bar. Plenty of TPT guys will be propping it up and be good to meet you. Posted by Jac35
Hi Jac. I'm pretty sure I'm coming, have spoken to the missus and she has given me permission lol (under the thumb!). Can only afford a couple of attempts at the sats for the main so I doubt I will be playing. Will definitely play the sidey on the Friday night though.
Have mainly been playing mtts but apart from the odd min cash I have not been having much success. I have decided to stick purely to mtts for now because they are what I enjoy playing the most. If my br drops to £30 then I will stop play them for a while and get back on the cash tables to try and re-build.
This plan does not give much room for error but at least I will be having fun!!
Yaaaaayyyy. No BR managment ftw! Join the club. Stick it on two £22 bhs and pray! Posted by gazza127
haha. I won't be playing anything higher than £2.30 BH so hardly joining the club. Besides, if or when I drop to £30 then I will be back on 4nl trying to build back up
Hey Waller, I have had quite a similar run to you on sky poker. Spun £10 up to £100 on 35p-£3.30 sngs/mtts, then won a mini ukops last december for a four figure sum. I withdrew down to £200 and had a bit of fun entering up to £10 tourneys - eventually leaving me with £50. I have been stressed out and not enjoying my poker this year after failing to make any profits.
Fortunately, I had an enforced break from poker after moving house and losing the internet for a week or two. I returned to the tables Tuesday and decided that I would play my £50 for fun - I have been on the smallest MC tables and entering 5.75 tournys - and all of a sudden I am back at £200 and positive again.
Yeah I'm just playing all the old mtts (barring the mains obv) that I used to play and love.......poker is fun and I need to remember that!!!
So, I played 4 mtt's tonight, results below.
First up I played a £25 gtd £1.10 BI.....this is a rebuy but decided I wasn't taking the rebuy or addon, it can be done without these. Not tonight though lol, Never got going!.........btw there were only 10 runners!
waller0207 Played the 6pm £250 BH and managed to finish in 5th place........with no heads. What a NIT!!
waller0205£10.150 The £500 BH was another tourney where I never got going.
waller02087 0
Finally I played the Orfordable. In this one I did manage to hold when I needed and was quite happy with the way I played.........my exit hand really hurt though because if I had won it then I felt I could have taken it down!!! Here is the hand.
bornablade
Small blind
4000.00
4000.00
121801.00
waller02
Big blind
8000.00
12000.00
39027.00
Your hole cards
2
J
bbMike
Fold
timeforbed
Fold
BLYTHYY
Call
8000.00
20000.00
147760.00
Any2Suited
Fold
bornablade
Fold
waller02
Check
Flop
5
J
5
waller02
Check
BLYTHYY
Bet
8000.00
28000.00
139760.00
waller02
All-in
39027.00
67027.00
0.00
BLYTHYY
Call
31027.00
98054.00
108733.00
waller02
Show
2
J
BLYTHYY
Show
3
3
Turn
7
River
3
BLYTHYY
Win
Full House, 3s and 5s
98054.00
206787.00
Oh well tis poker and at least I cashed. Not a bad return from a £3.30 buy in.
WD waller just keep doing what your doing.Skill wins out in the end.Your heading in the right direction.Although i'm sure i've said that more than once tonight.Gl mate.
Tonight didn't go so well. Had two sat attempts for the 8k BH and was first out both times.......the hand that repeatedly kicked me in the nuts was KK. In one mtt I had them twice on the trot and lost both times. I either had them and lost or lost to them. Not loving kings tonight!!!
Did cash in the £500 BH but still quite frustrated with that too. I was sitting 3/22 then in the space of 2 hands my stack was destroyed. I ran 99 into aces all in pre then very next hand I shove my last 12bb with AK and get looked up by AJ (with the chance of a big head prize).....he rivers the flush. Lost my last 4bb with 66. Was all pretty standard stuff but slightly gutted as I felt that I could have at least made the final table.
waller02019£3.12 + £3.38 Head Prizes4 Still, was a fun night, much prefer playing mtts. I'm not properly rolled for them atm and the variance is high but as long as I don't drop to £30 I'm gonna keep cracking on with them.
How is today going so far???? Well just lost to dohhhhhh in the hu comp (no surprise there though tbf). But this beat in a BH is pretty brutal and sums up my day
DORANO
Small blind
50.00
50.00
3712.50
jessbon1
Big blind
100.00
150.00
3050.00
Your hole cards
A
J
LITTLEBUCK
Fold
Caz81
Fold
waller02
Raise
250.00
400.00
2630.00
Rach1977
Call
250.00
650.00
1660.00
DORANO
Fold
jessbon1
Fold
Flop
A
A
10
waller02
Bet
400.00
1050.00
2230.00
Rach1977
All-in
1660.00
2710.00
0.00
waller02
Call
1260.00
3970.00
970.00
waller02
Show
A
J
Rach1977
Show
10
J
Turn
6
River
4
Rach1977
Win
Flush to the Ace
3970.00
3970.00
How on earth did I lose that hand!!!! lol........what are the odds please??
Have been running and playing awful recently and the high variance involved with playing mtts is hurting!!
I know I'm desperate for ANY money when after building up a decent stack and then getting trampled all over in the syndicate freeroll, I then allow myself to run the clock down with my 2.5bb to hold on for 2.30 lol
£2.30 is £2.30.........times are hard you know!!!
waller02105042£2.30 Just playing dtd now.....full update later
Poker has been awful for the past couple of nights. Tonight was no change, cant win a flip, can't win a 70/30. I'm posting 3 key hands from tonights DTD's.
1. I know the oppo here. He had been 3 betting light most of the game and had recently lost half his stack. When he 3 bets again I'm pretty sure my hand is good so shove.........I discussed the hand briefly in the chat box. I was basically questioning his call, saying I'm not 4 bet shipping with worse than KQ. He said he was short?? I know its not a bad beat, but was I right to 4 bet shove given my reads. Had oppo invested to much to fold??
general63
Small blind
50.00
50.00
5075.00
x
Big blind
100.00
150.00
3297.50
Your hole cards
A
J
neil1970
Fold
waller02
Raise
250.00
400.00
2300.00
59
Fold
AcidMan27
Fold
general63
Call
200.00
600.00
4875.00
x
Raise
750.00
1350.00
2547.50
waller02
All-in
2300.00
3650.00
0.00
general63
Fold
x
All-in
2547.50
6197.50
0.00
x
Unmatched bet
847.50
5350.00
847.50
x
Show
Q
K
waller02
Show
A
J
Flop
8
Q
2
Turn
5
River
2
x
Win
Two Pairs, Queens and 2s
5350.00
6197.50
2. Could not believe what X turned up with here! Limp, 4x raise, call, I 3bet then the limper (X) shoves......urgh not loving life. When Y just flats, I'm not 100% sure of what to make of it but I would have thought AA/KK would have prob shoved..........dunno, tough spot but I decide to go with it and shove and Y folds. My play ok (thinking 3 bet size might be too small)?? Is it too much of a gamble??
HATING POKER ATM lol
waller02
Small blind
50.00
50.00
10087.50
kev147
Big blind
100.00
150.00
3040.00
Your hole cards
Q
Q
x
Call
100.00
250.00
4580.00
y
Raise
400.00
650.00
9153.75
reddev16
Fold
nffc4eva
Call
400.00
1050.00
6737.50
waller02
Raise
1000.00
2050.00
9087.50
kev147
Fold
x
All-in
4580.00
6630.00
0.00
y
Call
4280.00
10910.00
4873.75
nffc4eva
Fold
waller02
All-in
9087.50
19997.50
0.00
y
Fold
waller02
Unmatched bet
5457.50
14540.00
5457.50
waller02
Show
Q
Q
x
Show
6
A
Flop
6
6
2
Turn
3
River
7
x
Win
Three 6s
14540.00
14540.00
3. This hand was the same oppo from the previous hand. His erratic play did not change and he was giving people easy double ups..........until it was my turn. I swear if he had typed lol or bye in the chat box then it may have tipped me over the edge!!!!! hahaha
EBBERDON
Small blind
150.00
150.00
7015.00
reddev16
Big blind
300.00
450.00
10352.50
Your hole cards
10
10
nffc4eva
Fold
waller02
All-in
3657.50
4107.50
0.00
thebil123
Fold
x
All-in
9221.25
13328.75
0.00
EBBERDON
Fold
reddev16
Fold
x
Unmatched bet
5563.75
7765.00
5563.75
waller02
Show
10
10
x
Show
9
K
Flop
Q
8
2
Turn
K
River
K
x
Win
Three Kings
7765.00
13328.75
So, out of all 3 DTD's before 10pm is never a good thing but at least it was fun.........actually tonight wasn't fun!!
Still going to stick with mtt's until I'm down to 30 quid........hopefully that won't happen but things need to turn around and fast. I will just play 1 or 2 mtts a night instead of the 4 I was playing before until things start to improve.
I am back from a break away from the tables. Been busy at work and generally not loving my time at the tables!!
Poker could do one as far as I was concerned, had two lots of pretty shocking news in the past week, head is messed blah blah blah.....
Played tonight, poker is a good escape!
Still sticking with the mtts, the orfordabe was fun as ever until I didn't believe cenachav (I was right until the river though.........that guy ALWAYS does me). A few bounty hunters, no cashes but a few heads. But I did final a £250BH finishing in 5th
waller0205£11.86 + £4.36 Head Prizes5 I'm coming to the SPT in notts on the Friday night for the sidey and i'm going to rail the main on the Saturday.......My first one though so feeling slightly nervous so any TPTers or forum regs up for a pint or owt at the bar then please let me know lol
I am back from a break away from the tables. Been busy at work and generally not loving my time at the tables!! Poker could do one as far as I was concerned, had two lots of pretty shocking news in the past week, head is messed blah blah blah..... Played tonight, poker is a good escape! Still sticking with the mtts, the orfordabe was fun as ever until I didn't believe cenachav (I was right until the river though.........that guy ALWAYS does me). A few bounty hunters, no cashes but a few heads. But I did final a £250BH finishing in 5th waller02 0 5 £11.86 + £4.36 Head Prizes 5 I'm coming to the SPT in notts on the Friday night for the sidey and i'm going to rail the main on the Saturday.......My first one though so feeling slightly nervous so any TPTers or forum regs up for a pint or owt at the bar then please let me know lol BR = £50.80 Posted by waller02
Yeah I know no-one. Definitely up for a pint or two.
@ gazza: I think the Friday night sidey is £25 buyin. But someone else would have to confirm that.
Update: A bad night at the tables. Only really got going in one mtt, the £1.10 deepy. but with 38 left I made a crucial mistake, at least I think it was a mistake??? Here is the hand.
Just did not expect a 7x to be limp calling here. I figured they may have an overpair to the board, maybe A8 or most likely a flush draw. Should I have folded???
gilch60
Small blind
150.00
150.00
10540.82
perchy
Big blind
300.00
450.00
7276.64
Your hole cards
K
K
ann735
Call
300.00
750.00
11021.00
dolphy
Fold
waller02
Raise
900.00
1650.00
13378.50
gilch60
Call
750.00
2400.00
9790.82
perchy
Fold
ann735
Call
600.00
3000.00
10421.00
Flop
7
7
8
gilch60
Check
ann735
Check
waller02
Bet
1800.00
4800.00
11578.50
gilch60
Fold
ann735
All-in
10421.00
15221.00
0.00
waller02
Call
8621.00
23842.00
2957.50
ann735
Show
7
J
waller02
Show
K
K
Turn
Q
River
5
ann735
Win
Three 7s
23842.00
23842.00
Having one last go at the £250 BH in 2o mins........really need a cash. Still sticking with the plan of playng mtts until my br reaches 30 quid, then going back to the 4nl tables (hopefully that wont happen!!!!!)
That's maybe the problem with the low stakes tournies, bad play by a good number of opponents. A lot of oppoents lol I've been caught out with similiar stuff in the last few games, opponents calling with total junk and hitting. Yeah we want these calls, but with the sheer amount of bad play, they inevitably are going to hit their hand sometime. In the hand above, it's a tight fold, but they are saying loud and clear they have trips. Unlucky Posted by LARSON7
are they though? there are many other hands that they can have here, 8x's, overpairs and flush draws. Very hard to find the fold, it was for me anyway lol
In Response to Re: The Story of a Broken Man (£50 or quits!!!) : are they though? there are many other hands that they can have here, 8x's, overpairs and flush draws. Very hard to find the fold, it was for me anyway lol Posted by waller02
Yeah it could be other stuff too lol
But, from my experience in the last couple of weeks bad players, don't lie lol
I've had atleast 3 occasions in the last 2 weeks, where people have called hefty bets pre with junk and hut!
Comments
+1
Right, played the DTD tonight for the first time in weeks. Forgot how fun they were. Never really built a stack in 2 of them and in the other I started well but then had to fold JJ twice on unkind flops after I had 3 bet pre (then had my backside spanked every orbit!). Did manage to min cash in DTD 1 though so the night was almost free.
Gonna try to play the DTD every week from now on...........top night, all for the price of a couple of pints.
DTD 1
waller02016£4.31
DTD 2
waller02046
DTD 3
waller02044
BR = £38.18
I have nearly 7 quid C4P to come and I am in the Top of the Posts game tomorrow for a gtd tenner so things MAY be turning round........hope so!!
Quick update......Didn't manage to take down the TOTP game but it was a good laugh with some good banter in the rail. Plus you can never moan about a free £20!
Thanks to those who voted for me, appreciate it as it was a much needed boost to the br (Charity case!!!)
BR = £58.18
Having an early night so no more poker for me.
I just played mtt's. I have been having a couple of nights off from the cash tables as they were doing my nut in.
Had a go at the Win the button (or whatever it was called) mtt. Was a good laugh and made a nice change from the standard mtt formats, although it does get annoying when you are on the bb 3 or 4 times on the trot!!! Would def play this kind of tourney again though, didn't cash this time but it was only a quid to play so no biggie. Also had another crack at the 35p BH......no joy.
Played the £250 BH.......no cash, 1 head prize. But I did manage a min cash in the £500 BH along with 1 head prize. The exit hand was quite brutal, I shoved my 7bb with QJ, get looked up by guy with J3o for 1/3 of his stack...........happy days, that was until the 3 came down on the flop. Still these are the calls you want in the long run so no complaints there.
waller02026£2.12 + £0.75 Head Prizes1
The most frustrating part of the evening was being bubble, bubble boy in the £2k BH freeroll where I was 12th with 10 seats to the £11 BI mtt.........sigh. Was one of the shorties and shoved my 77 on the button only to lose to the small blind's AQ.........close but no cigar!!!!!
Hehehe377010Entry to £2,000 B/Hunterfishing196011 waller02012
Could have been a nice return had I won a seat.
So, a losing night but I did enjoy playing more than I would have done being sat on the 4nl tables. Gonna have to play some cash in the next few days to try a regain my losses though.
Forgot to mention, I also played a £2.30 SPT sat. I really wanna go and play the main. I'm 90% sure that I'm going to rail the TPTers, put some faces to names and play the Friday night sidey.....but would love to play the main too!!!
BR = £53.45
Have mainly been playing mtts but apart from the odd min cash I have not been having much success. I have decided to stick purely to mtts for now because they are what I enjoy playing the most. If my br drops to £30 then I will stop play them for a while and get back on the cash tables to try and re-build.
This plan does not give much room for error but at least I will be having fun!!
BR = £49.85
All good fun remember dont push with a k when q 6 will do.
Not that I'm bitter hope to see you on a final table soon.
Daggers.
Yeah I'm just playing all the old mtts (barring the mains obv) that I used to play and love.......poker is fun and I need to remember that!!!
So, I played 4 mtt's tonight, results below.
First up I played a £25 gtd £1.10 BI.....this is a rebuy but decided I wasn't taking the rebuy or addon, it can be done without these. Not tonight though lol, Never got going!.........btw there were only 10 runners!
waller0207
Played the 6pm £250 BH and managed to finish in 5th place........with no heads. What a NIT!!
waller0205£10.150
The £500 BH was another tourney where I never got going.
waller02087 0
Finally I played the Orfordable. In this one I did manage to hold when I needed and was quite happy with the way I played.........my exit hand really hurt though because if I had won it then I felt I could have taken it down!!! Here is the hand.
waller0206£21.39
Enjoyed tonight (easy to say when you win money).
BR = £72.39
Rik, we have to play HU for the forum comp.
We have 2 days to play, tomorrow rly isn't v good for me, but I can do anytime Sunday?
Tonight didn't go so well. Had two sat attempts for the 8k BH and was first out both times.......the hand that repeatedly kicked me in the nuts was KK. In one mtt I had them twice on the trot and lost both times. I either had them and lost or lost to them. Not loving kings tonight!!!
Did cash in the £500 BH but still quite frustrated with that too. I was sitting 3/22 then in the space of 2 hands my stack was destroyed. I ran 99 into aces all in pre then very next hand I shove my last 12bb with AK and get looked up by AJ (with the chance of a big head prize).....he rivers the flush. Lost my last 4bb with 66. Was all pretty standard stuff but slightly gutted as I felt that I could have at least made the final table.
waller02019£3.12 + £3.38 Head Prizes4
Still, was a fun night, much prefer playing mtts. I'm not properly rolled for them atm and the variance is high but as long as I don't drop to £30 I'm gonna keep cracking on with them.
BR = £64.39
Hope I run better for the rest of the night!
I believe (with cards face up) the chances of you losing that hand are 1 in 90, 1.1%
Have been running and playing awful recently and the high variance involved with playing mtts is hurting!!
I know I'm desperate for ANY money when after building up a decent stack and then getting trampled all over in the syndicate freeroll, I then allow myself to run the clock down with my 2.5bb to hold on for 2.30 lol
£2.30 is £2.30.........times are hard you know!!!
waller02105042£2.30
Just playing dtd now.....full update later
Poker has been awful for the past couple of nights. Tonight was no change, cant win a flip, can't win a 70/30. I'm posting 3 key hands from tonights DTD's.
1. I know the oppo here. He had been 3 betting light most of the game and had recently lost half his stack. When he 3 bets again I'm pretty sure my hand is good so shove.........I discussed the hand briefly in the chat box. I was basically questioning his call, saying I'm not 4 bet shipping with worse than KQ. He said he was short?? I know its not a bad beat, but was I right to 4 bet shove given my reads. Had oppo invested to much to fold??
HATING POKER ATM lol
Still going to stick with mtt's until I'm down to 30 quid........hopefully that won't happen but things need to turn around and fast. I will just play 1 or 2 mtts a night instead of the 4 I was playing before until things start to improve.
BR = £46.59
Poker could do one as far as I was concerned, had two lots of pretty shocking news in the past week, head is messed blah blah blah.....
Played tonight, poker is a good escape!
Still sticking with the mtts, the orfordabe was fun as ever until I didn't believe cenachav (I was right until the river though.........that guy ALWAYS does me). A few bounty hunters, no cashes but a few heads. But I did final a £250BH finishing in 5th
waller0205£11.86 + £4.36 Head Prizes5
I'm coming to the SPT in notts on the Friday night for the sidey and i'm going to rail the main on the Saturday.......My first one though so feeling slightly nervous so any TPTers or forum regs up for a pint or owt at the bar then please let me know lol
BR = £50.80
Do you know the details of the side event?
Update: A bad night at the tables. Only really got going in one mtt, the £1.10 deepy. but with 38 left I made a crucial mistake, at least I think it was a mistake??? Here is the hand.
Just did not expect a 7x to be limp calling here. I figured they may have an overpair to the board, maybe A8 or most likely a flush draw. Should I have folded???
BR = £41.35
That's maybe the problem with the low stakes tournies, bad play by a good number of opponents. A lot of oppoents lol
I've been caught out with similiar stuff in the last few games, opponents calling with total junk and hitting.
Yeah we want these calls, but with the sheer amount of bad play, they inevitably are going to hit their hand sometime.
In the hand above, it's a tight fold, but they are saying loud and clear they have trips. Unlucky
But, from my experience in the last couple of weeks bad players, don't lie lol
I've had atleast 3 occasions in the last 2 weeks, where people have called hefty bets pre with junk and hut!