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Last night I hardly payed any cash and mainly focussed on the £250 BH (no cash, 1 head) £500 BH (7 from the money!! 3 heads) and £25 GTD (finished 6th....3 cashed). On the whole the evening was pretty much break even.
Today has been the problem as for some unknown reason I decided to play some DYM's.....easily my worst format of the game!! Lost all 3! At least I confirmed that I still cannot play them.....although hands like AQ<K10 and AQ<A10 didn't help matters.
22 Jun '13 at 15:12PokerDouble Your Money£-1.15£0.00Poker AIR clientHand History22 Jun '13 at 15:00PokerDouble Your Money£-2.25£0.00Poker AIR clientHand History22 Jun '13 at 14:23PokerDouble Your Money£-2.25£0.00Poker AIR clientHand History
I'm just going to have to stick to 4nl now to try and re-build. Confidence is getting lower and lower.
BR = £39.38
I'm going to a 21st birthday party tonight.......drowning my sorrows!
Thanks to a flopped set and then a straight I have bumped my roll back up slightly!
Going to the party slightly happier. Besides if I can't have fun getting drunk in a room full of 21 yr old women then something is wrong!!! (glad the missus does not read this haha)
BR = £42.03
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45 minute shower - jeez your water bills must be huge! lol
Posted by VespaPX
@geldy.....I can't seem to be able to play any form of poker atm so I doubt a couple of dym's would hurt! Not gonna play anymore though
:43PokerCalais£-0.97£0.00Poker AIR clientHand History23 Jun '13 at 15:42PokerJamestown£3.20£0.00Poker AIR clientHand History23 Jun '13 at 15:40PokerBanstead£-1.37£0.00Poker AIR clientHand Histo
Biggest losing hand came at the start of my session. Oppo is unknown. What should I be doing on the river? Really wish I checked back, but should I be b/f here??? When oppo c/r the river I dunno what I was thinking, I guess I just put them on the missed draw but I'm always beat here..............poor call!!
BR = £42.89
Last quick session of the night. It was another winning one. Could have been even better but i lost a big pot towards the end (hand posted below).
Also played the £250 BH. Finished close to the money again but just fell short after shoving my 13bb with AJ and getting looked up by 33. If i win that hand then a cash would certainly have been possible, but it wasn't to be.
waller02034£0.94 Head Prizes1
The cash tables went well apart from this hand. I called pre because it was only a min raise and there is always the potential to win big pots with suited connectors/gap connectors.
I called on the flop because the oppo had often been giving up after having his cbet called, I feel I can win the pot if this is one of those occasions. The turn card is great for me and I'm happy to try and get it in here because the fact he is firing again tells me he has something (if he has me beat then fair play). I got the chips in as a big fav and was ul.....although best hand won lol...........Also, if I miss the turn and he bets again then I fold because he has never bet 2 streets without a hand.
So these are my thoughts on the hand. Would appreciate any of your thoughts.....apart from fold pre, I think it's ok to call a min raise pre with these kind of hands. Is it?
No more poker tonight. CBA!
BR = £46.21
Bad session. Played the £500 Bh with no joy. On the cash tables I lost 2 big hands....both due to bad play
1. Haven't played a great deal against this oppo. This was his first 3 bet......and a big one. Should I either be 4 betting or folding here? He snap shoved the flop.........alarm bells were ringing and my finger was hovering over the fold button.....until the last sec when I called! There are certain players where I would fold here and certain where I would snap call. I now know which category to put this oppo in (shame it cost me a BI to find out!)
BR = £37.15
Played the £500 BH and got of to a great start taking an early head Flush v Straight. Then it all went downhill fast.....will post the 2 key hands below.
1. Maybe a bit of a gamble. Limp shove CAN sometimes be the likes of aces or kings but in these £2.30 BH's they are more often not. If I'm wrong I still have a very playable stack.....so if I'm confident I have the best hand and there is a chance of a big pot and another head prize I think I'm right to call here?????
No major cash hands that I'm unsure about to post tonight.
25 Jun '13 at 19:56Poker£500 B/Hunter£-1.55£0.00Poker AIR clientHand History25 Jun '13 at 19:32PokerWhite House£-2.82£0.00Poker AIR clientHand History25 Jun '13 at 19:30PokerLudham£1.05£0.00Poker AIR clientHand History25 Jun '13 at 19:30PokerFeinton£4.89£0.00Poker AIR clientHand Historywaller020135£0.75 Head Prizes1
BR = £38.72
So advice wanted on the hands I have posted please, particularly hand number 2.
Hand 2: 100% call the bet is small so i wouldnt be folding, not sure what your expecting to call that your beating when you jam, therefore if we do get called we are pretty much always beat.
Keep grinding and the heater will come! gl.
Ran well, but with 3 min blinds you need to!
Don't think I will be playing anymore tonight as I have some work stuff I need to catch up on.
rileyboi1220001£4.75 + £2.18 Head Prizes8£0.67waller0202£3.17 + £1.06 Head Prizes6 bracewell103£1.90 + £0.41 Head Prizes2 dnorman19904£1.58 + £0.81 Head Prizes6 BigBeau5105£1.27 + £0.57 Head Prizes3 nick15306£1.03 + £0.14 Head Prizes1 leander10907£0.87 + £0.75 Head Prizes6 redders208£0.71 + £0.11 Head Prizes1 stuarty11709£0.55 + £0.22 Head Prizes2
BR = £42.60
I have never really been a cash player, can't play it, even at 4nl. In fact my whole game is worse than ever!
The mtts aren't going great either. For instance, played the £250 BH at 6. Got off to a great start and took 2 heads then as usual lost a crucial hand. If I had got off to this start 18 mnths ago then I would have felt confident of going deep.
The best way to describe how I'm feeling atm is that I feel I have had my memory erased and any (although it was never much) knowledge on how to play a half decent game of poker is gone!!!
2 key hands from my cash session tonight.
1. Oppo unknown. Prob should be a fold on the river?? Thoughts on the hand, my bet sizing, the donk bet and the river please!!!
Just playing another £250 BH, full update later........br aint pretty!!
The board isn't great 4-way, people can easily make two pair here, it's smacked set miners, and the straight is there too. You're probably only beating a pair with a draw or a flush draw. The turn is tough because now you're out of position, I don't mind firing again on the 5 but if you're called again you need to know whether they are a station or have you beat. The river is just horrendous, and if your oppo is competent they'll check behind unless they have you beat.
Just opinions. Head up, hope things start swinging back for you.
Take this hand...I limped in pre because I find it is the cheapest way in the long run to play 22 when playing 4nl. If I raise then I'm getting called and with players who will call with any pair I'm rarely in a good spot, so I try to see a flop as cheap as I can to set mine.
Anyway this is how I'm rolling atm!
Just played a £250 BH.......thought my luck was changing as I was in the top 3 with 10 players left then this happens! Seriously....give me a break!! lol
waller02010£4.67 + £7.59 Head Prizes4
I also played (I know I shouldn't have) two all in sats for the 25k roller without success. I really wanted to play though so don't mind having the gamble.
BR = £39.37
Not playing anymore tonight. So have £6.95 C4P to come in the next week.
Not sure what the plan is for the next week. I don't really wanna be playing cash when there will be a load of regs getting into the spirit of yet ANOTHER cash promo and dropping down to 4nl to see as many flops as they can handle......NO THANKS!
Waller... don't limp the 22. I'll come back to explain why raising is better after I've spent a couple of hours sobbing over your limp.
I just find limping in the cheapest and easiest way to play the hand at 4nl. I'm raising in mtts and higher levels but I just don't see the point at 4nl because more often than not I lose more by raising rather limping in to set mine........people don't fold very easily at 4nl.
I'm open to explanations though.
If you limp with 44 and it comes 4KJ (or whatever) and the pot is 10p.... unless you've smacked a nasty cooler on someone and they have KJ or the like then you are gonna find it nigh on impossible to get them to put £4 in the middle.
You bet pot on flop (he calls), pot is now 30p
Turn you bet pot again, pot is now 90p
River, you bet pot again, pot is now £2.70.
That is like dream situation aswell because it's rare you'll ever get people to pay off 3 pot bets in a row (even at 4NL!). So you've just won a pot of £2.70 when raising pre could have easily made it an £8 pot.
That's ignoring the fact you make it glaringly obvious what you have if you just limp small PPs.
If you find that none of your cbets are getting through then imo at 4NL, there's nothing wrong with raising and just check/folding when you miss, rinse and repeat. You will lose more when you miss, but you win far more when you hit and that's the whole point of set mining. You also give yourself the added chance of just stealing the blinds which is never a bad thing with 22.
You say you see flops cheaper by limping, but here is a perfect example above where you've limped, and then been forced to call a raise and pay full whack to try and hit your set anyway.
I will take what you have said on board and start raising it up.......although I'm not going near the cash tables this week!
With the gtd tenner coming tomorrow I have decided to play the DTD tonight....have some fun for a change. You never know I might even have a result tonight and break the £100 barrier......but I wouldn't bet on it!
I will add that whenever I look back over my NL4 sessions, my hand histories show an awful lot of +12p and +20p hands. Those are hands where I've raised or iso'd pre-flop and just got a c-bet through.
You've got to be careful which flops you c-bet on but raising pre-flop, in position, to c-bet the flop is broadly profitable at this level, just as it is at every other level.
That's not an excuse to limp when you're OOP though. lol
The TOTP thread was the reason I looked here in the first place. Good luck in it.
Ty for the gl wishes.....never has a fun forum game had such meaning as far as my roll is concerned!! lol
Limping is absolutely fine with small pocket pairs. Depends on position. If you are in later position, it's fine to raise, early position limp all the way.
There isn't really a right or wrong answer, this will be dependant on position and dynamics at the table.