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Any promo where you can predict so many of the winners in advance is a bad promo
Any promo where less than 1% of the players on the site have any motive to go for it must also be a bad promo
Come on Sky, this is getting beyond a joke
I mean £20,000 given out over these last 4 promos to the same old people. Apart from the select few that came like top 3, this idea would have benefited far more....
We're on Hand Number 666931063 atm (I just checked a cash table).
Any stakes (real money only), any game (cash, SnG or MTT), milestone hands.
So 666935000
666936000
666937000
666938000
666939000
666940000
W/e, choose your own intervals based on how long you think it will take to get through them and payout all the money.
Win the milestone hand = £50
Dealt in but lose = £10
So on a 6max table that is a max payout of £100 which means for £20k you could pay 200 tables which means 1200 people would benefit. Miles better than 40 people and everyone has a chance. If the hand appears shorthanded/in a HU SnG or whatever, then still £10 for loser and £50 for winner but just means even more tables can be paid out.
It still encourages play which Sky obviously want to do because people will wanna play round the mile stone hands but it won't have any negative affect in terms of people just folding lots or whatever. Some people might play a lot of tables, but I doubt it would have a large impact because I don't think most people would see it as worth it to play a million tables and play -EV poker just for a shot at £10 or £50. And that's a good thing, cos we don't want it to just be about high volume regs chasing all the money.
This creates a pretty level playing field where no-one should have a big advantage, tons of people get paid out, and as we hear all the time, SO many people would prefer just getting a little something often than a miniscule chance of something big.
FWIW, I think the intervals should be in short bursts with a bit of a gap between 'burst' so maybe like 5 hand numbers that you'd expect to be played in the space of 3pm - 7pm on Monday then 5 hand numbers you expect will happen around 8pm - 11pm on Tuesday or something of the like.
While it is a "promotion" that will benefit some, a small few players.
Really it's for sky, they willbe making a fortune off it. Think about the extra rake it will generate. They give away 5k, but will get much more than that back in increased rake.
The promos not to encourage new players, simply to make more money, and clearly it's working 4th in so many weeks.
Cash Games: 1st - 7th July Low (Big Blind is 50p or less)High (Big Blind is over 50p)1£300£5002£250£3503£200£3004£150£2005£100£2006£100£1507£100£1508£100£1509£100£15010£100£15011£50£7512£50£7513£50£7514£50£7515£50£7516£50£7517£50£7518£50£7519£50£7520£50£75
As said before this just encourages regs at NL50 to drop down the limits while those that pay way more rake at NL100 and above are just getting screwed over a little imo. The payout structure is just all wrong.
Me and a few others are playing a lot less on sky now, due to the promos. I know devonfish, is havinga break from playing as much on here too.
So that backs up what you are saying about "long term loss".
But i guess most players will avoid the weeks when this promo runs and just back back aftewards. It's hard to say.
My main point i was making was this is not for "new players" and certain players making a certain "bonus" is secondary to the fact when they run these Sky must be making a fortune.
Tbf though DTM, as you say, you've lost £200 per month in C4P since rewards... but you must have won about £1000+ in promos over the last 6 weeks, so there's a slight discrepancy. You're better off now than you were under the old system if they keep running these weekly.
Again, I'm not bothered that you win, and you do grind like a mo fo to do it, wp to you. Would just be nice to have something different that didn't adversely affect the games (imo)
I'm not having a go, it's perfectly within your right to do it, but just out of interest, do you plan on grinding 4NL for the first week of July during this promo?
what I think causes the problems with this promo is that you have the chance to get free money for playing nothing.
why couldn't the prizes for the biggest rake on the micro stakes be free entry into some tournament.
something like say
1st free entry into the 25K promo and mini
2nd free entry into the 25K promo only
3rd free entry into Tuesday Thursday and main and mini
4th free entry into Tuesday Thursday and main event only
5th get 1 £33 main and 1 mini
6th 1 main event
7th-12th can have free entry into 7 down to 2 mini events depending on position
basically something like that because the recs will do anything to get the chance of free entry into a big tournament but with it only being 1st-4th getting much value it would look pointless for the biggest stake to drop down to the micro stakes table.
If Sky make it rake paid/points earned then there's no way he would drop to 4NL, but they haven't and this is one of the major flaws in the promo.
People have won £20'000-£30'000 from this site, yet look at the user numbers? A lot of people most be lossing a lot of money.
Where i am coming from: the first time this promo ran in May it destroyed 4nl there wasn't much play at all. From my experience the vast majority of tables were filled with regs, playing loads of tables, it wasn't so much poker as pushing buttons. As soon as the 32 raise came in you knew what they had within a few hands.
I sat at one table during the last promo and 3 x raised a table of regs every hand, the maximum number of times i got folds uncotetsted was 11 hands in a row lol
You are right it's not fair singling out individuals. I had posted a couple of threads about DTM above relating to the promo, which i've now deleted. I know where i am coming from but it wasn't right singalling out 1 person.
You can understand DTM doing it, it is his living and allows him to win £300 tax free for a few days work.