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UKOPS Player of the festival
Hi All,
After UKOPS XI we received a lot of feedback from you guys saying that you would like a player of the festival type competition for the UKOPS festivals. For UKOPS XII that is exactly what we are going to do.
The Player of the Festival will win themselves a seat at the UKPC in February. This competition will be run on the forum and thank you to the volunteers that have already said they are happy to do this. We have an idea of the way this leaderboard will run but in true community spirit we wanted to get some feedback from you guys about how the points in this competition are allocated.
Player of the festival points will be on offer in every UKOPS event on the schedule. We have an idea of how the points should be allocated, taking into account:
- Finishing Position
- Buy in
- Number of runners
We now want to throw this open to you guys to make suggestions based on the above. We want to make it as simple as possible so that our willing volunteers are not working all hours trying to keep the leaderboard up to date, so please let us know what you think.
We will have a look at all feedback and finalise the details of this in the next week or so.
Thanks
Sam
Comments
was good!!
pity TOTP no longer runs, as it will be a lot of work alongside his excellent leaderboard thread.
wp slip...
Er, no, wait a minute...
a tweek please to make it SIMPLE
1 point if cashing
2 points if FT
3 points if third
4 points second
5 points first
the benefits are numerous. easy to calculate, easy to see what needs to be done. but mainly, the competition remains alive for longer and for many more players
Simplicity is the key.
PS. The range of scores should be narrow. ie 1 to 5
PPS, The relationship between points should not be polarising. ie not 20 points to the winner.
I must have seen scores of "Leaderboards" in my time, mainly in "Live Poker" Festivals. As a generality, one big win kills the fun, & Leaderboard, stone dead.
Le Tour De Skypoker
Yellow Jersey = Overall best = Most money won
Green Jersey = Points Winner = Cash=1, FT=2, 3rd=3, 2nd=4, Win=5
White Jersey = Newcomer = Points and joined skypoker after 1/1/20xx
Polka "Poker" Dot Jersey = King of the Mountain = Heads taken
Skypoker Blue Hoodie and UKOPS bracelet = Stage Winner = Tournament Winner
i see your point and it holds true if we are trying to establish who is the best player and nothing else. slippy does this very well. if we are trying to devise a formula that takes into account everything it would need to be quite complex, as you have illustrated.
however, the purpose is to provide an interesting competition and incentivise more play. in which case, the scheme needs to be very different.
we must avoid having the competition over after day 2. we must avoid the winner of the high roller almost certainly winning this too. remember we want people on day four to enter more tournaments. we even want the HR winner to enter the micro on day 4 too.
if you want to identify the best player then the mathematics are there already that take into account runners, buy-in, finishing position etc..it is money won. if we want to incentivise throughout we should have a system that gives everyone a chance on day four.
for example, imagine the premiership was decided by the gate receipts. man utd would have sewn it up already with newcastle and arsenal next (i guess). the premiership, instead use a points system as it means that the competition is not over until near the end of the season.
horses for courses. our race is not gate receipts, nor is it the best player in terms of winnings, it is the best player in terms of consistent high finishes across all games, and less dependant upon how much money they have.
therefafter we need it to be simple, hence my orignal post. we do not want a "duckworth-lewis" method to work out what we need to do. the 1.2, 1.4 multiple is horrific.
i am thinking that we want fred bloggs to enter on day 4 knowing that if he cashes twice and FTs once he might win. it should be easily calculated.
regards
rob
If someone runs away with it, surely they deserve to win, regardless of the format.
Looking forward to see how they plan on doing it, it's not easy that's for sure.
Davy
If there are 8 events every day (9 on Saturday because of the High Roller), that's 33 events and if they are all set the same as Slip's points, that's 33 chances to get 30 points (1st place), 33 chances to get 24 points (2nd place) etc etc. and chances are there are gonna be at least 25+ unique winners of the events.
So every night there's like 240 points to potentially win (270 on Sat) if you can run like that Bates fella
So many variables, the bigger BIs will be tougher fields, but then they'll generally be smaller fields too, is it tougher to win X soft comp with 500 runners, or Y comp with a tougher field but only 300 runners, tough to say. Just keep it simple imo, use Slip's point system for every event, regardless of BI.
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You can see from this thread how difficult it is to please all of the people all of the time!