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Build a Bankroll

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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited January 2010
    I'm working tonight so here's today's and my end of week 1 update... Will post again next sunday.

    BR 4NL:     £87.80 (+£17.28)
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    BR 316... about -£3 today...
    donked at 4NL cash tables all day, played bad ran bad :( then donked on 2 £3.30 dyms, £20 down...
    went back to where i know i can win after a break (3.30 dym), won 7/8... played good ran good, so ended the day only 3 quid down. i need to play good all the time... more consistency.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    stake     -     £2/£3 dym's

    br         -     £105

    profit    -      £80.40

    av. roi   -     16%   (being new to the game what would you say is a good roi??)


    won last 7 out of 8 dyms.

    br down a bit due to some sports betting at weekend!!! think i will just stick to gambling with poker!!
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    donkey id say ignore ROI, just concentrate on breaking even/making profit whilst improving.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    ok mate cheers.
    played 4/4 dym cashed all today so got back weekends loss!
    8)

    going for 5 in a row and get knocked out pure bad beat style. was short stacked and pushed with queens got busted with his straight!

    Hand History #227204019 (15:16 25/01/2010)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    DiscoH87 Small blind  150.00 150.00 425.00
    zhuzh Big blind  300.00 450.00 1657.50
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
    		     
    eeyore2no Fold     
    donkeyplop All-in  482.50 932.50 0.00
    DiscoH87 Fold     
    zhuzh Call  182.50 1115.00 1475.00
    zhuzh Show
    • 5
    • A
    		   
    donkeyplop Show
    • Q
    • Q
    		   
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 3
    • 10
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 2
    		     
    River
       
    • 7
    		     
    zhuzh Win Straight to the 5 1115.00  2590.00
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited January 2010
    This is why you have a BR donkey . ;)
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited January 2010
    he had to call for 182 - he's calling that with 72o - not really a bad beat.
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    lol yea thats just standard, he has to call with any2... shame it was a 70 30 and not a 80 20... try not to get that low though.
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  • KnackersYaKnackersYa
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    stake     -     £2/£3 dym's br         -     £105 profit    -      £80.40 av. roi   -     16%   (being new to the game what would you say is a good roi??) won last 7 out of 8 dyms. br down a bit due to some sports betting at weekend!!! think i will just stick to gambling with poker!!
    Posted by donkeyplop
    With £2/£3 DYM's your ROI should be more than 12.5% just to cover the rake so 16% is fine (means you're manking a 3.5% profit overall). You should probably be aiming for a ROI of 25-30% to show a decent return but this will come with time so don't get too hung up on it.

    And don't go down to the £1 DYMs or lower! The rake on these is extortionate. If you find the need to go down a level, try the heads up games, only 5% rake.
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    waaaaaaaaat?! an roi of 25-30% on dym games lol... thats almost impossible!!!!!!
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited January 2010
    Isn't 5-10 ROI pretty decent on dym's ?
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    yes!!! its good dudeskin... thats why 25-30% is insane!
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    BR... £345.08... +£29.08 since last post
    today i was up £26.29, 5/5 £3 dym cashes and +3 BI at NL4.
    Now on a streak of 10 £3 dym cashes, today i think i ran VERY well and played well on both cash and dym, i was patient and it eventually paid off.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    im on a bad run today losing all 3 dym! been playing real bad!!

    not sure whats going wrong?

    im not getting the cards and i think im getting frustrated and making silly calls!!

    any advice??
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  • ACESOVER8sACESOVER8s
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    im on a bad run today losing all 3 dym! been playing real bad!! not sure whats going wrong? im not getting the cards and i think im getting frustrated and making silly calls!! any advice??
    Posted by donkeyplop
    i can offer a little advice although i do tend to suck at DYM's (in fact i think it's going to be my mission this month to grind some of these and generally up my game on them)

    DON'T CALL - In a nutshell :)

    Sit tight, your playing for 3rd and no higher. Let others get it down to 4 by doing the work. Once your there it's not about the cards you get (well not completly anyway) it's about the situations you see.

    You can easily go the first three levels without needing to play, maybe even 4. You need to use this time to figure out who is going to give up their blinds, who is going to raise you light as you have a tight image and who not to push against because they will call your bluff.

    Once your at 4 you can start to preasure unopened pots without needing cards as your image should be rock like. Steal enough to keep you in the game but let the others take on each other where possible.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    thanks for the advice!!

    just came 1st in a £3 dym taking your advice!!!

    you are right ive been calling too much lately!
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  • ACESOVER8sACESOVER8s
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    thanks for the advice!! just came 1st in a £3 dym taking your advice!!! you are right ive been calling too much lately!
    Posted by donkeyplop
    Glad to be of help, i think you knew where you were going wrong but a second opinion never hurts. I'm going to grind a bunch of these after 6 so you never know... we may meet over the virtual felt (if we do, stay clear of my blind lol) 
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    ok will look out for you!!

    just lost a dym where 1 guy was sat out until his chips were down to about 800

    then suddenly he came back went all in and doubled up which annoyed the remaining 3 players including myself.

    then we went all in again i had better hand but he won!!

    is what he was doing cheating?? or is it just being very unsporting??

    this tactic happened the same yesterday with exactly the same outcome!! very frustrating!!
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    ok will look out for you!! just lost a dym where 1 guy was sat out until his chips were down to about 800 then suddenly he came back went all in and doubled up which annoyed the remaining 3 players including myself. then we went all in again i had better hand but he won!! is what he was doing cheating?? or is it just being very unsporting?? this tactic happened the same yesterday with exactly the same outcome!! very frustrating!!
    Posted by donkeyplop
    It's neither cheating nor unsporting.
    It's a fairly common "tactic" employed by DYM players.
    The merits of this style of play can be debated.
    In this instance he needed to double up twice to be "back in the game".
    It's a risky strategy in my opinion but many successful players adopt it.
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  • ACESOVER8sACESOVER8s
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    ok will look out for you!! just lost a dym where 1 guy was sat out until his chips were down to about 800 then suddenly he came back went all in and doubled up which annoyed the remaining 3 players including myself. then we went all in again i had better hand but he won!! is what he was doing cheating?? or is it just being very unsporting?? this tactic happened the same yesterday with exactly the same outcome!! very frustrating!!
    Posted by donkeyplop
    Some people class it as un-sporting i suppose but here is the truth of it. If he wasn't sat out and just ran his timer down and folded then people would just class him as a Rock. His game plan wouldn't have changed if he was sat in, it would have just slowed the rest of the game down. It's not cheating, it's a legitimate strategy (although i think most would have been back in before as low as 800). It can get on your nerves but the best thing to do in this situation i find is if losing the all in to short stack will damage you too much then let him keep doing it until someone else calls him or you have him crushed. Don't call these in a marginal situation. If one of the other 2 players calls then if the Short Stack doubles it damages one of your oponents and not you. Keep it tight and try to be the raiser in unopened pots not the caller to the Short Stacks all-in
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    ok cheers again for the advice!
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  • AceAceBabyAceAceBaby
    edited January 2010
    thats my exact opinion acesover8's. treat them as a rock, its a style rather than unsporting although i find it abit annoying and tilt call sometimes inwhich case showing the style actually does work :) gl in future dym's
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    aaaaaarrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! MASSIVE DOWNTURN ALERT!!!!!!!! LOL im on such a bad run right now im getting situations like this too freqeuntly!

    beaten by del boy lol

    Hand History #227732449 (09:54 27/01/2010)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    donkeyplop Small blind  50.00 50.00 2830.00
    barfoot12 Big blind  100.00 150.00 1990.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
    		     
    phlwbb29 Raise  200.00 350.00 1365.00
    joebuddy Fold     
    TheTrotter All-in  1350.00 1700.00 0.00
    CHIZ Fold     
    donkeyplop Call  1300.00 3000.00 1530.00
    barfoot12 Fold     
    phlwbb29 Fold     
    donkeyplop Show
    • A
    • A
    		   
    TheTrotter Show
    • A
    • 5
    		   
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • Q
    • 2
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 4
    		     
    River
       
    • 5
    		     
    TheTrotter Win Three 5s 3000.00  3000.00
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  • Spike2120Spike2120
    edited January 2010
    Sorry I aint been keeping up with this but anyways update from a bad week

    Stake: 4NL/£1-£5DYM

    BR: £77 (-4 from last time)

    Goal: build my stake back up 2 £100 by end of the week, gonna be tough, got a busy week!

    Long Term Plan: Slowly build up my BR to eventually start playing higher stakes.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited January 2010
    This is a kind request to please try and refrain from degenerating this thread into a bad beat thread. I appreciate we all run bad sometimes but find somewhere else to vent your frustratration.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    ok mate i have been venting my frustrations in the wrong thread.
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    why do you call the all in and not shove over the top to isolate?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited January 2010
    Date Bankroll Difference Comments Cashouts Cashout Comments Monthly Profit
    18-Jan £1.50 £1.50       £102.86
    22-Jan £52.50 £51.00        
    23-Jan £73.00 £20.50        
    24-Jan £87.80 £14.80        
    25-Jan £25.00 £25.00   £37.80 NL10 shot, 2 buyins  
    26-Jan £50.10 £25.10        
    27-Jan £66.56 £16.46        
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited January 2010
    An example of the spreadsheet I made to keep track. Played NL10 and got coolered once and bad beat once (stacked off set under set, AK TPTK against a rivered 2pair raggy ace) which explains the -£25. Ran good again when I moved back down and had a £25 day. Also runnin quite well today.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    why do you call the all in and not shove over the top to isolate?
    Posted by BlackFish3
    not sure what you mean??
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