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Build a Bankroll

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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    well the guy went all in with A5... and you called and the other players folded.
    imo you should of gone all in as well after the guy with A5 did so that other players behind dont call.
    does that make more sense?
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    oh right i see!

    well at the time with my aces the more the merrier lol! when i saw his ace 5 i thought yes he needs 2 more 5s which he got!.

    even he said in the chatbox he had his coat on haha

    also i find in dym's when you get 2 go all in anyone after just leaves it to them.
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  • ACESOVER8sACESOVER8s
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    oh right i see! well at the time with my aces the more the merrier lol! when i saw his ace 5 i thought yes he needs 2 more 5s which he got!. even he said in the chatbox he had his coat on haha also i find in dym's when you get 2 go all in anyone after just leaves it to them.
    Posted by donkeyplop
    Your a massive fav pre flop but yo udon't want anyone else in the pot with you. Your odds of winning will decrease (by a LOT) for every player that enters - Against 4 hands you may as well kiss your tourny goodbye. (well maybe not quite that dramatic but you get the point)

    Merenovice may drop in and do the maths on just how much your odds will reduce against say 3 random hands but it won't be pretty i can tell you that
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited January 2010
    Just ran it and against A5 your 90% fave, add 9 10s and that drops to 67% just 2-1, then with 2's in aswell your just a 54% fave.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    ok i will try that next time!

    better today won 7 lost 2!



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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    good job, keep it up and dont let your confidence get knocked!
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    made 15+ buy ins at 4NL so i think i have that beat... moving up to 8NL today... thinking of taking a shot with 10BIs and 3 tabling, see how i get on :)
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  • penguin7penguin7
    edited January 2010
    I love this thread !! But I notice there are no tournament players on it. When I started out I played a mixture of sit and goes (there were no DYMs back then !)  and low stake tournaments, using sit and go winnings to finance tournament entries. That way I avoided the rake and the grind of playing low stakes cash. I still remember the day when after a run of STT success I paid £5 entry to a tourny and won 270. After that the pressure was off and I was always able to play well within my bankroll and patiently build. I would love to hear from anyone taking this route. My only problem now  is I still am pretty poor at cash !!
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    COME ON!!!! my 1st 8NL session... just a shorty, 3 tabled for 40 mins... made over £15 :D!!! almost 2 BIs in 40 mins, im well happy! Will have another session tonight.
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  • walesboywalesboy
    edited January 2010
    Hello

    Play 2p/4p
    Bankroll - £24
    Down £46 since New Year. Pre New Year was up £30!
    Playing too many evenings at weekends and getting beat!
    Aim - try to get back the profit by not playing weekend evenings and hope to not have to depoisit more. Develop a better game.

    Alot of talk on the thread about DYM's. Are they a good idea for a guy who plays cash only, and only 5 months experience. Does it need a different technique/game to cash as I've got conflicting advice from friends?
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    Hello Play 2p/4p Bankroll - £24 Down £46 since New Year. Pre New Year was up £30! Playing too many evenings at weekends and getting beat! Aim - try to get back the profit by not playing weekend evenings and hope to not have to depoisit more. Develop a better game. Alot of talk on the thread about DYM's. Are they a good idea for a guy who plays cash only, and only 5 months experience. Does it need a different technique/game to cash as I've got conflicting advice from friends?
    Posted by walesboy
    dym are tactically slightly different... more passive, less agression... but they are a good way to gain experience whilst building a roll/losing slowly. I personally recommend them... even if it is just 30p dym, they have served me well. Let me know if u want any dym advice.
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  • walesboywalesboy
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll : dym are tactically slightly different... more passive, less agression... but they are a good way to gain experience whilst building a roll/losing slowly. I personally recommend them... even if it is just 30p dym, they have served me well. Let me know if u want any dym advice.
    Posted by BlackFish3
    Thx, I will. I might try one tonight and see how I go.
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    just give it a go, play tight and let others knock each other out... maybe post some hands you want to discuss. good luck.
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  • onthemoononthemoon
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    Its not that i started with £10 as my bankroll, im always withdrawing my money, i start with a small amount and build it up, works everytime, i play better when im under a tough challenge, i have enough money in my poker bank account to start with a bigger bank roll but like i said i enjoy the challenge watch this space ;)
    Posted by Gavinxxxx
    Gavin we only have your word that you have cashed out and left £10.00 in your account,if you like the challenge then build your bankroll bigger and step up to a bigger cash table, and see if you like the challenge with the BIG boys

    AKA onthemoon.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    Hello Play 2p/4p Bankroll - £24 Down £46 since New Year. Pre New Year was up £30! Playing too many evenings at weekends and getting beat! Aim - try to get back the profit by not playing weekend evenings and hope to not have to depoisit more. Develop a better game. Alot of talk on the thread about DYM's. Are they a good idea for a guy who plays cash only, and only 5 months experience. Does it need a different technique/game to cash as I've got conflicting advice from friends?
    Posted by walesboy
    hi ive only been playing about 4 months and i find dym's the best way to build a bankroll nicely.

    just stick to the low entry ones that way if you dont double up it doesnt affect your br much.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited January 2010
    Date Bankroll Difference Comments Cashouts Cashout Comments Monthly Profit  
    18-Jan £1.50 £1.50       £131.84 £1.50
    22-Jan £52.50 £51.00         £52.50
    23-Jan £73.00 £20.50         £73.00
    24-Jan £87.80 £14.80         £87.80
    25-Jan £25.00 £25.00   £37.80 NL10 shot, 2 buyins   £62.80
    26-Jan £50.10 £25.10         £87.90
    27-Jan £69.91 £19.81 SWINGY!       £107.71
    28-Jan £69.21 £0.70     NL10shot lost flips :(   £107.01
    29-Jan £44.04 £24.83   £50.00 Tilt Control   £131.84
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited January 2010
    Decided to just update my original post as i go along, save for unneccessary spamming and wastage of valuable binary real estate!
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  • ginge999ginge999
    edited January 2010
    hi loving the thread awsome reads,

    i would like to contribute my poker story and objective.

    ive been on the site for a while now, played all sorts of stakes and games on here, i just checked on my accounts, i have two cards on the site my old one which has had £477.54 earnings on and my new one which is currently on £673.54. Which has bought me some nice things. now to the poker talk, i began my poker journey playing small cash games of 4nl i was profitable ive had a few cashs on some of the tournys and once came 7th in the open bubbled with AK vs JJ :(. Ive won a couple of MTT's for £200 which made me very happy. but i never can build a steady bankroll with out going bust or drawing most of it out, hence my withdraws. I got to £400 roll building once, then blew the lot on roulette lol. got to £150 recently lost £50 on a cooler hand heads up, so drew £70 out and im currently sitting on £30 in my balance. how the hell am i suppose to build a roll i really dont understand how i can do it im desperate to do something!

    Any tips greatly appreciated

    Thanks Tom (Ginge999)
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited January 2010
    ok tom, with your £30 hit 4NL again, build it up to 100, withdraw £20 (so you can smile as you have locked away some profit :) ) and then move up to 8NL, build it up, withdraw a small sum and repeat... but dont ever play roulette... ever.
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  • SDodgerSDodger
    edited February 2010
    Nice thread,  good read.

    Joined sky in Nov.09, having played a short while on anoher site loading £20 n playing for couple months with that, I thought I would try without loading cash n build from nothing. So I played with £2 bonus, played cash NL4 n a 3rd place freeroll got up to £29 in about 3weeks.
    Was up n down through Dec [not bein consistant] missed week or so at xmas n was down to around £10~.
    Starting Jan wasnt too good also, up n down n sencond week was down to 19p [+30p dym, which I won], so continued playing low dym's started the increase to about £6, then combined cash NL4, low dym's, Hu, BH's, n odd tourns was back up to £26 last week.
    Cant seem to get out the 20's, up n downs from 10 to 20 something... A few good days then my game seems to crumble... ?


    want to be more consistant,.. Build that BR.....
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited January 2010
    only a short session today but managed to end in profit despite making some bad plays... post #1
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited January 2010

    Read this everytime I see it on the board, noticed 1 or 2 are cashing out a significant amount of their BR. 

    Whats this all about? - One said tilt control...?

    Where are u trying to go with your poker? Isnt the idea of this theory to win, build the bankroll up until you have enough to play the next level, and so on and so on...?

    Surely cashing out regularly is gonna make this almost impossible and ur never ever guna get anywhere? 

    DOHH
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited January 2010
    LOL, I was wondering this too. My idea is to get to a much higher level before cashing out even enters my mind.
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  • Grimstar30Grimstar30
    edited January 2010
    Starting roll £20 built from freerolls.

    Currently at £125 - looking to use a promotion via sky to get £10 on top for free for 7 days play.

    Will be looking to grind at 4p cash (perhaps the odd shot at 8p / 10p) and get up to £150 by end of Feb 2010.


    I know this is not a massive roll but I would like to say that I have never gone bust since joining Sky 15 months ago... long haul grind but fun! :)

    Oh and this roll is completely separate from life expenses etc I will not even be considering withdrawing until I get to around £500+

    Dave
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited January 2010
    Stake 4NL

    BR £85.39 (-£0.97)

    Ain't posted for a while since I had pretty nasty session losing two BI's in one session, since then grinded back up and looking to rise as usual. I can definitly say building it back after playing badly has made me feel more confident.

    Also had a nice cash in Orfordable last night for £31.20, but it won't go anywhere near my roll.
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  • Grimstar30Grimstar30
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    Stake 4NL BR £85.39 (- £0.97 ) Ain't posted for a while since I had pretty nasty session losing two BI's in one session, since then grinded back up and looking to rise as usual. I can definitly say building it back after playing badly has made me feel more confident. Also had a nice cash in Orfordable last night for £31.20, but it won't go anywhere near my roll.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Won't go near you roll? sep buy in?

    Well done on recovering - it is definitely when your confidence gets dented that a solid break even / little profit session is needed. I lost £10 last night playing silly on NLH8  made calls I would never have made, not applying odds etc... today played for 45 mins on NLH4, waited patiently lost a few 'bad beats' but finally picked my spot and left up, not massively but up!
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited January 2010

    I like to keep the cash BR separate from tourneys, plus I don't feel the need to rush up the levels with big cashes like this, infact doing so could let me play at a level before I'm ready. Although I doubt the skill level increases much from 4NL to 10NL lol.

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  • ginge999ginge999
    edited January 2010
    back to DOHHHHHHH i draw some of the profits out because i know i will tilt it off if i lose a couple of bad beats this is what i need to controll. Also yes i want to become a more 'serious' player and earn proper money from the game what do i do with £30? take a shot and try and double my money or add some more money on to the roll? or shall i just grind it out at 2p4p?

    Thanks Tom
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  • penguin7penguin7
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: Build a Bankroll:
    hi loving the thread awsome reads, i would like to contribute my poker story and objective. ive been on the site for a while now, played all sorts of stakes and games on here, i just checked on my accounts, i have two cards on the site my old one which has had £477.54 earnings on and my new one which is currently on £673.54. Which has bought me some nice things. now to the poker talk, i began my poker journey playing small cash games of 4nl i was profitable ive had a few cashs on some of the tournys and once came 7th in the open bubbled with AK vs JJ :(. Ive won a couple of MTT's for £200 which made me very happy. but i never can build a steady bankroll with out going bust or drawing most of it out, hence my withdraws. I got to £400 roll building once, then blew the lot on roulette lol. got to £150 recently lost £50 on a cooler hand heads up, so drew £70 out and im currently sitting on £30 in my balance. how the hell am i suppose to build a roll i really dont understand how i can do it im desperate to do something! Any tips greatly appreciated Thanks Tom (Ginge999)
    Posted by ginge999
    Hi Tom ! What are you doing ??? From the results you mention you obviously have some talent for the game. and it sounds like you have made a breakthrough with your BR at least once.
    Just have one account and card so you know where you are. And protect you bankroll its sacred ! Its not to be blown away or withdrawn.
    When you only have a couple of hundred you cant put yourself in situations to lose £50 HU. If your game is good enough to win £200 mtts, keep going there. To me as a tourny specialist I get far more of a buzz out of a good final table than any cash game. Get yourself playing tight in STTs, sometimes tourny wins dry up for a while and these keep your game together while moving your BR forward. By using this strategy you should not be risking more than 10% of your BR on any day.
    When I started after a couple of false starts of £50, I then began to have some success. I decided to not make any withdrawals until I could take a 4 figure one, and thats what I have done since, my biggest withdrawal being 7k. To play at the level I am comfortable at, I keep 2k in account, so there is no financial pressure on my game. Patience is the key !
    AND ROULETTE IS OUT ! SO IS USING YOUR POKER BR TO HAVE A FLUTTER ON SKYBET!
    Good luck with your game
    Tony
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  • ginge999ginge999
    edited January 2010
    Cheers Penguin7. the tourny wins were a long time ago i struggle these days, I find I always go out on a 60/40 spot where i get my chips in ahead, but then again im not blaming bad luck to my results as i know varience swings in round abouts. i currently am only using one card as the other one is an old card. roulette is very bad yes i dont like it tbf just enjoy a flutter now and then. congratulations on your BR thats where i would like to be, to boost my wage as im currently in a really bad job lol.
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