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IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!

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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: is this a human or a bot?:
    I'm trying to remember if I read about this guy in PokerPlayer magazine.  I may have done.  Stars are normally good of weeding out bots but as I've said before, it is possible to play this much (questionable if it's always the same person but it is possible to do this as a human). Rover, have you emailed their support?  I'd be very interested to see any progress. BTW, in the DYM on Stars the chat does stop with 7 players remaining to avoid collusion.
    Posted by TommyD
    yep i emailed them and yes spoke to mod who makes skyrich look like ,

    mother tersea in drag ,

    but its not like our beloved skypoker,
     
    from previous experience the email most probably

    will get lost in cyberspace lol .

    i will keep you updated if i get any info or any other fellow players who speak

    the irish queens english on there,
     
    give me any info ,

    makes you think do how good we  have it on here,

    thank crunchy for skybernie / tk / skyrich and the lads lol !

    p.s   i have got the bit between my teeth on this one its

    roborover  verus the bot lol !
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited March 2010

    Im not sure what site your talking about here, but Ive been watching a game on a site, mixed game, with durr, gus, Townsend and PA........and in the chatbox for an hour, theres been a guy asking everyone, including the pros, to lend him 5 dollars, and he will pay back double in half an hour....

    Whats this all about?????? - I dnt understand? Do people actually do this sort of thing?
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    Im not sure what site your talking about here, but Ive been watching a game on a site, mixed game, with durr, gus, Townsend and PA........and in the chatbox for an hour, theres been a guy asking everyone, including the pros, to lend him 5 dollars, and he will pay back double in half an hour.... Whats this all about?????? - I dnt understand? Do people actually do this sort of thing?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    He's a nibbler.  You get more of these live in the casino if you are having a good run.  There are people doing this all the time, some make a living at it.  If you can, try and find Jeff Lisandro's WSOP story (his PA wrote it I think).  He had a load going after him, including one guy who faked a heart attack on the casino floor.
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  • OMahonyOOMahonyO
    edited March 2010
    I remember reading a while ago, that Phil Ivey was playing low stakes cash on full tilt nl25 or something.  He lost a pot of about $10 or so.  Someone railing, shipped Phil Ivey $10 through inter account transaction and said something like ul wp (lolol). He just wanted Iveys name in his list of transactions or something.  Phil Ivey then said in the chat `wow, thanks`.  Then shipped him $100 straight back.


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  • BowieBoyBowieBoy
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    Im not sure what site your talking about here, but Ive been watching a game on a site, mixed game, with durr, gus, Townsend and PA........and in the chatbox for an hour, theres been a guy asking everyone, including the pros, to lend him 5 dollars, and he will pay back double in half an hour.... Whats this all about?????? - I dnt understand? Do people actually do this sort of thing?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Yes John, on that site you can transfer money to others accounts so there are lots of beggers looking to be staked, ie give me 10 bucks to join a tourny, i'm very good and will get it back to you with more, lol. If their that good why did they have no money left, ha ha.
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    I remember reading a while ago, that Phil Ivey was playing low stakes cash on full tilt nl25 or something.  He lost a pot of about $10 or so.  Someone railing, shipped Phil Ivey $10 through inter account transaction and said something like ul wp (lolol). He just wanted Iveys name in his list of transactions or something.  Phil Ivey then said in the chat `wow, thanks`.  Then shipped him $100 straight back.
    Posted by OMahonyO

      do you think that trick would work on tk !
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  • OMahonyOOMahonyO
    edited March 2010
    Ive tried.  I shipped him £100 and he shipped me £10 back
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    Im not sure what site your talking about here, but Ive been watching a game on a site, mixed game, with durr, gus, Townsend and PA........and in the chatbox for an hour, theres been a guy asking everyone, including the pros, to lend him 5 dollars, and he will pay back double in half an hour.... Whats this all about?????? - I dnt understand? Do people actually do this sort of thing?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

     i don't want to keep mentioning the said site ,

     because skypoker mods have  been kind to let this thread run,

     but doh the site name is on the 1st post in this thread .
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  • loonytoonsloonytoons
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL! :  i don't want to keep mentioning the said site ,  because skypoker mods have  been kind to let this thread run,  but doh the site name is on the 1st post in this thread .
    Posted by IRISHROVER
    I find they tend to allow the mention of other sites if its in a negative tone, but not if it a recommendation - which is quite understandable.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop
    edited March 2010
    it must be a bot seing as its number 1 in the total profit for £2 dyms!!!!

    its been in the top ten for the last few years too so im amazed they havnt picked this up!!

    someone must of programmed it very well though to be that good!!!
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited March 2010

       http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/ultimate-micro-grinder-supernova-playing-1-don-666062/index9.html

         a bit more info on this guys / gals i picked it up in the middle of the thread ,

     best you go back in this thread in above link  to the start [  1st page ].

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  • TINTINTINTIN
    edited March 2010
    this has me thinking of another player like this but who defo happens to be real,, Boku87 who also plays on the already mentioned site. i regularly search him just to be amazed at how many tables he is playing at the 1 time, ( 35+). usually these r a mix of $12 180 man tourneys up to $60 18 man sng. this has me totally amazed at how 1 person can do this but he has took part in challanges when he has spun $100 into $10k in 2 weeks and another where he was trying to go from $5 to $100k.

    i checked out the blog part of this site and it contained a video of him playing 51 tables at a time. the video lasted 9 mins and i was totally drained just watching it.

    i recommended people finding this video just to gape in wonder, i thought hevad khan was bad when i seen the video of him playing 26 sng and putting the rocky theme on his music player at same time.

    truely mindboggling
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  • Taller_GuyTaller_Guy
    edited March 2010
    This is the answer given by the site's security person, "Jeff"

    He does indeed play about 14 hours a day on average, non-stop, keeping
    around 90 tables open, mostly folding.
    Yeah, he's a sick grinder, but we've thrown all of our best bot detection tools against
    him, and he doesn't show any signs of being a bot. We've analyzed his
    session times, the computers he plays from, and more. He doesn't appear to
    be account sharing, either.

    Everything we see tells us "sick grinder", rather than bot.

    I hope this has answered your question completely. Please do not hesitate
    to let us know any time you need anything.

    Best Regards,

    Jeff
    PokerStars Game Security    "
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    This is the answer given by the site's security person, "Jeff" He does indeed play about 14 hours a day on average, non-stop, keeping around 90 tables open, mostly folding. Yeah, he's a sick grinder, but we've thrown all of our best bot detection tools against him, and he doesn't show any signs of being a bot. We've analyzed his session times, the computers he plays from, and more. He doesn't appear to be account sharing, either. Everything we see tells us "sick grinder", rather than bot. I hope this has answered your question completely. Please do not hesitate to let us know any time you need anything. Best Regards, Jeff PokerStars Game Security "
    Posted by Taller_Guy
      ty for the info tallerguy

      but what puzzles me about this response is ,

      how does he beat the timer in 90 tables ?
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  • Taller_GuyTaller_Guy
    edited March 2010
    He'd need total, unbroken concentration, but if he is genuinely playing all these tables, he's got to be cross-eyed by now...lol.

    Someone said it earlier, he must be "away" on the majority of tables, but I think he could do it on a rotational basis - a bit like Chelsea!  Just start at the top left table and work around clockwise - that way you'd play all the tables at some point.  If you've doubled up on twenty or thirty (!) you can leave those to fend for themselves and concentrate on your dodgy ones.

    I don't how it works, but I got a sweat on when we played the split table in TKOII..lol
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    He'd need total, unbroken concentration, but if he is genuinely playing all these tables, he's got to be cross-eyed by now...lol. Someone said it earlier, he must be "away" on the majority of tables, but I think he could do it on a rotational basis - a bit like Chelsea!  Just start at the top left table and work around clockwise - that way you'd play all the tables at some point.  If you've doubled up on twenty or thirty (!) you can leave those to fend for themselves and concentrate on your dodgy ones. I don't how it works, but I got a sweat on when we played the split table in TKOII..lol
    Posted by Taller_Guy
    lol n1 above  me 2 .

    but i have played against said player now over 20 times,

    it/he she has never been timed out !
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  • Taller_GuyTaller_Guy
    edited March 2010
    I would definitely say it's impossible to keep up that level of play for 14 hours a day, seven days a week (I presume it/ s/he plays every day?).  Apart from the concentration aspect, when do they go to the toilet, or eat, or get an oil change?

    Only one answer: a bot, pure and simple.

    One other thing, that reply from "Jeff" mentions that rs03 is not account sharing or using a multitude of computers, but doesn't that point to it being a bot all the more?  Not really up on these things, but it just ain't right!!
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  • beanehbeaneh
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: is this a human or a bot?:
    Is it possible to play so many tables at the same time? Would you need a bank of monitors? What is the most amount of tables that anyone on SKY POKER has managed to play at the same time?
    Posted by emilyegg

    18 personally.



    That's response from site wot cant be named is awesome. They are so much better than another site who cant be named with a 3 letter acronym starting with F and ending with P!!!
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  • Taller_GuyTaller_Guy
    edited March 2010
    Apparently, his account was set up in Bremen, Germany and there's also an rs03rs03 on eBay, or rather there was.  The account was opened in Germany in August 2001 and amassed a feedback score of over 20000.  Must've been selling himself off for spare parts!
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    Apparently, his account was set up in Bremen, Germany and there's also an rs03rs03 on eBay, or rather there was.  The account was opened in Germany in August 2001 and amassed a feedback score of over 20000.  Must've been selling himself off for spare parts!
    Posted by Taller_Guy

     
    lol above ,

    its most probable that site cant track his bot ,

    happens all the time theirs always a few ahead of the security trackers !
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  • beanehbeaneh
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL! :   lol above , its most probable that site cant track his bot , happens all the time theirs always a few ahead of the security trackers !
    Posted by IRISHROVER

    I'm pretty sure your wrong. 


    In Stars we trust!
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  • loonytoonsloonytoons
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    I would definitely say it's impossible to keep up that level of play for 14 hours a day, seven days a week (I presume it/ s/he plays every day?).  Apart from the concentration aspect, when do they go to the toilet, or eat, or get an oil change?Only one answer: a bot, pure and simple. One other thing, that reply from "Jeff" mentions that rs03 is not account sharing or using a multitude of computers, but doesn't that point to it being a bot all the more?  Not really up on these things, but it just ain't right!!
    Posted by Taller_Guy
    Maybe he sits on a Commode, wears a colostomy bag, uses the pillowcase technique and has a drip feed down his nose? (can you picture this)
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL! : Maybe he sits on a Commode, wears a colostomy bag, uses the pillowcase technique and has a drip feed down his nose? (can you picture this)
    Posted by loonytoons
    on the floor excellentooooooo !!!!!
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  • DELTADELTA
    edited March 2010
    wat a thread i soso want to now the answer to this. i cant manage more than 2 tables so i go 4 bot. del
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  • beanehbeaneh
    edited March 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f5IUP-ELzA
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  • Damo_BhoyDamo_Bhoy
    edited March 2010



    see when i search for him/she it,   a canny find it in the find a player, hmm there should be a find a bot search lol
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  • DELTADELTA
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f5IUP-ELzA
    Posted by beaneh
    wow it is a bot no person can do that imo.
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  • Taller_GuyTaller_Guy
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL! : Maybe he sits on a Commode, wears a colostomy bag, uses the pillowcase technique and has a drip feed down his nose? (can you picture this)
    Posted by loonytoons
    Disturbingly, I can picture it!!

    I used the pillow case technique once - ruined the sheets...
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  • beanehbeaneh
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL! : wow it is a bot no person can do that imo.
    Posted by DELTA

    It's a video of someone doing it and recording!!!
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: IS THIS HUMAN OR A BOT? ROBOROVER VERUS THE BOT LOL!:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f5IUP-ELzA
    Posted by beaneh

      ok that's 51 tables add another 39 = 90  easyyyyyyyy lol ,

    now do this for 14hrs with a bag attached on your lower region ,

    and an a drip attached

    to your mouth  easyyyy lol !

    credit for above to loonytoons post lol !
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