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Here we go the defence ... Well I rest my case, Your supposed to be good at maths ?
You work it out then... !!
Making insults wont get us very far.
1. Initially on Sky Poker, points had no value apart from the ability to use them to enter free-rolls. Sky Poker made no promises that the points would ever be worth more than that.
2. Sky Poker decided (presumably as a response to market competition) that they needed to improve this offer. Therefore, they introduced a "Cash For Points" scheme to reward frequent players each month. When this was introduced they made no promises about the worth of historic points.
3. When the new scheme was introduced they could have decided that any points accrued above the "stage points" each month would be lost. However, these points are added to the existing balance - again I could be wrong.
4. There is a massive equity in these "historic" points which it is VERY difficult to Sky Poker to provide a generous recompense for. As they were worth nothing more than entry to freerolls at the time that they were accrued it is very silly for us to complain that we have ever been duped or mis-treated.
As a heavy user of this site from the early days I suspect that I have as large an equity in these points as most players.
YOU need to get some perspective on life. Even in the over-used currency of the word "sick" amongst young people nowadays it is pathetic to see you post using the phrase as you have done. For you then to call for the resignation of a man who makes enormous efforts to satisfy customer demand on this site makes me feel "sick" , to be honest.
You should consider what you post before typing because, in my opinion, it makes you look like a bitter and twisted individual who has no concept of the real world.
There are many people on this site who would like to see a satisfactory resolution to this issue but you , by making mindlessly inflamatory remarks, are helping no-one.
I hope that this answers at least some of your "concerns".
from the outside looking in it looks as if your a sky worker in disguise? either that or your well and truly in love with sky poker and will continue to kiss bums? Also your post makes me feel sick!!!! Benny as only said what most are thinking and you have a real go at him, why dont you think before you post instead!!!
99% of the forum love benny and his fantastic thread he created, the other 1% have the same opinions as you
YOU need to get some perspective on life. Even in the over-used currency of the word "sick" amongst young people nowadays it is pathetic to see you post using the phrase as you have done. For you then to call for the resignation of a man who makes enormous efforts to satisfy customer demand on this site makes me feel "sick" , to be honest. You should consider what you post before typing because, in my opinion, it makes you look like a bitter and twisted individual who has no concept of the real world. Posted by MereNovice
Perspective of Life,
Vince, I'm happy with the life I lead,
Full time Job , Interests in Greyhounds and going greyhound racing, horses and getting to the races , Poker online and playing live poker in Casino's and clubs ..
Oh and reading the garbage that you write here makes me wonder how sad are you !
I dont like to see people made look a fool the way Bernie has taken the 'Micky' out of the community here with this 1000 pt mtt for a total payout of 100 pounds ...
So go look in the mirror to see the sad ++++ is !!
1000 Points for a £100 freeroll? its a disgrace.......its FAR too low......I would willingly sell my HOUSE my CAR and ALL of my possessions to get access to this freeroll.LOL i think most of us are with you on this one benny m8.dav
Thankyou for correcting my typographical error. I can only apologise.
I posted some serious points for consideration.
I do not work for Sky Poker; neither have I ever met any of their employees as far as I am aware.
As I said, I have significant equity invested in poker points and I'm pretty sure that you cannot say the same.
Your use of the figures of 99% and 1% is extremely ill-judged and you have no basis for their use whatsoever.
I generally think deeply before posting and I certainly did not post without due consideration in this case.
Posted by bennydip2
Would you like to address any of the points that I made?
So, presumably, you're calling those 50+ people idiots for taking up this offer?
I'm pretty sad but I reserve my vitriol for cases where it is due not for frivolities like this.
Damn it! I was winning the tournament with 12 left, then i got KK. put 4BBs in, someone goes over the top. I call. Im against 77. 7 on flop. down from 40K to 16K. Next hand get 99, get em all in pre flop. Im against A10. river A kills me. Leader to bust in 2 hands. Didn't even cash.
It's obvious Sky Bernie took the 'Micky' out of us the players and community, and for that reason he should not be taken serious a someone who has the players interest at heart ..
glk Vince with the Maths ..
soz rich i know you are only the messagenger ,
but this is silly,
i know its a small pokersite compared to most,
and the budget is tight ,
but seems bernies test here is very poor,
more consideration to all the loyal poker players on skypoker,
some of us paying rake on here for 3 years ,
i think in his on going testing ,
he needs to give us a bit more,
its up to all other players on here to decide for themselves,
but i for one will be waiting for a better offer !
rover and not in !
lol yes and Skypoker salvaged back 50,000 pts and gave out 100 pounds ...
Winner getting what , 30 pounds ??
Am I missing something here ?
Put it another way .. a player racks up 50,000 pts in a month ....
How much Bonus would he get ??
Do you think 100 pounds would cover it ? ( I dont think so)
I`m not one for poker clothing or anything, but I do find it strange that sky havent opened up a merchandise shop, which quite a few ppl seem to want and is essentially advertising.
Mr Sky Bernie,
Thank you for taking the time to respond to this thread...
I have noticed however you chose to have my post removed,
(Democracy of opinion not an option to me then) ..I dont have that luxury to pick and chose the posts i dont like about me and have them removed !! As to your response........
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Rich made it quite clear early on in the thread that last night's tournament was being used by me to trial a tournament format, and as always if some or none of the players wish to play in it at the points value attributed to it to enter, that is purely their decision to make. If none decide to do so then I do not achieve my goal, but hey, I can live with that. But as the old saying goes; the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and 50 players chose to play.< Un Quote,
Bet that makes you feel good that you filled that little 50 seater then, even though it has been pointed out by not only myself but many others , there is no value to YOUR customers in playing it. !!
Quote > We are also, as Des referred to in another thread, looking at an idea to allow all players the opportunity to use up some of the points they have outstanding, but this will not be run for a couple of months, but will hopefully been seen as an extra reward by some players and not others, but we cannot please everyone all of the time. All players are free to air their views and choose whether to get involved in what’s offered or not. That’s what’s called a democracy, and if a player decides not to play at least give us some credit for trying, as the easy option is not to do anything, and the hard one is to try knowing we will get flack from some players as in this case. <UnQuote
You say, "this will not be run until a couple of months"..??
Is that the same 'couple of months' that was being said over 12 months ago about a down loadable site ?
I dont have time to go into all the things you and Skypoker promise just to keep players hanging on, with the use of the phrases, "watch this space"
or, "in a couple of months" !! ...
It's quite obvious from not only myself but many many others of the long standing customers from the past, now use Skypoker as a 'second' or 'third' poker site ..!
Many reasons, being the lose of TV tournaments,... the use of this forum by Sky marketing to promote , Casino games, Bingo, Slots, and all the other forms of gambling that only encourage players of poker to lose at the casino games..
Of course you and others could say, "dont play here then, or use the forum", but all my posts are either customer orinetated, or light hearted as in the 'x files'...
My motives are to help players or have a laugh with them !!
I know in the past you have helped many people with this site, and some promotions are excellent, but this last six months has in my opinion gone down hill fast ...
I believe it's you the management that should look closely at what you are doing, and not taking the 'micky' with this 1000pt for 100 ponds tournament ..
If thats your best idea , then you should consider others opinions outside you own staff and listen to what your customers are saying !
Good luck to you Bernie..... Yes were in a recession and yes it will get worse after the election, so why not give the VALUE to YOUR customers??
Bennydip2(Barry)
OK, the value wasn't that great, but it was nice to play a properly structured tourney instead of the usual massive field donkaments.
More tourneys like these please, Bernie. Just make the buy in a bit smaller next time eh ;o)
£10+£1 mtt gets you 10 points. to get 1000 points i would of payed £100 in rake/fees and you offer me a £2 seat for this, this is far from reasonable.
why cant you offer these tourneys on the same percentage as the current cash for points?
i play 6x 100nl tables for 3/4 hours a night, from this point onwards i will stop playing when i hit my target, i have 18500 points this month and will stop playing when i hit 20k. i wont be able to hit 24k as not enough time.
their is no point in me playing till i hit 22k points as i will be paying all that extra rake for the 2k points but will get nothing back apart from a 2% RB mtt entry. the other option is change the payout of cash for points so there is no surplus points.
the points i already have in my account, i will wait and see what comes in a few months.
maybe your the next liverpool manager, who knows. lol