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after stopping playing on sky for 6 months, believing through statistic compiliation that far too many amazing hands and beats occur, i have returned(not without some success) to find the same occuring! my question is this: however random why should the average punter on sky believe that the computer generators are not tweaked to make this happen? for my part watching and playing live i know it doesn't happen with the same frequency??? SO, comments welcome! Stoneface 1.
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Hi Stone
Because there are so many hands dealt, and played, of course there are going to be hands beaten, it stands to reason, there are also hands holding up, it wont happen as frequently live for the simple fact, there are nowhere near as many hands dealt, but outdraws do happen.
It would not be in Sky,s interest to "tweak" the RNG.
Are you stoooooooooooopid?
That never happens three times in a row on Sky Poker - must be rigged. :-)))
Ace Barry gives the reason perfectly though. Plus it was a Bounty Hunter so play is generally looser.
How do people believe companies as big and public as SKY would get get away with such things?? Amazes me
thnx bandini
tothose that think i'm stoopid or need to visit another planet, think again. i wasn't speaking personally and i am aware of a variety of factors that can lead to outdraws. however, math is math and 52 cards do not create random odds or hands. quite the opposite and the more you watch,or play, the more the stats should come to bare!!! i'm not convinced Barry,lol, and my mathematical mind is burning with doubt???
hope you're well pal.
Looooony bin
If you truly have a "mathematical mind" then I'm sure that you realise this.
I do, however, feel confident that Sky is not trying to skim a few quid off the top of a few games of poker. It makes no sense at any level of logical reasoning.
I think sometimes that you are trying to make humorous posts but I can never be sure. Can you please add ;-) at the end of any attempted humorous post in future so that I don't reply in the wrong vein.
Thanks.
I was dealing a tourney last night at Alea Casino Leeds, I had 4 4 and the chap sat next to me had 7 7, the flop was 4 4 7.
I shuffled the cards, I dealt the cards, I won with quads, do you think the people at the table thought I may have "tweaked" the deal? LOL
I love the way you mention your statistical analysis yet fail to give us any hard evidence from your work! May I suggest your analysis is not exactly comprehensive? Was it over 2 or 3 million hands?
DOOOHHHHHHH,, you are worthy of your name!!
I think the following blog is essential reading for this topic:
http://www.billrini.com/category/is-online-poker-rigged/
Thoughtful and informative stuff. (With a bit of humour too).
1. It would be quite difficult, technically, to design a poker site that played normally almost all of the time but occasionally favoured a certain (type of) player.
2. The process of designing/implementing software is quite complex. To design software that did this would involve AT LEAST the following level of people.
The Clients (who asked for it)
The Development Management (who agreed to it)
The Business Analyst (who did did the high level analysis to ensure that it was worthwhile and reasonable)
The Functional Analyst (who designed the processes for how it would work)
The Technical Analyst (who designed the technical processes to make it work)
The Programmers (who wrote the computer programs to make it work)
The Technical Test Team (who ensured that the system worked as it is supposed to,technically)
The Functional Test Team (who ensured that the system is "fit for purpose", functionally).
Quality Assurance staff at every level who review the processes to ensure that they are working correctly.
There would be several other people/groups who would also be involved at some stage of the development - external auditors would certainly be involved.
So, considering how many people (and groups) would be aware of this "fraud" and the possibility of a leak from any one of them, does it make any sense at any level for a company such as Sky (or any other reputable company) to be involved in anything of this nature when they stand to gain a couple of quid or lose an empire?
I happen to notice at my live event since the start of June, we've had numbers consistantly 3 tabled. Now ive seen KK v AA 4 times, 3 of those times the Kings have won, one of them the Kings actually hit a four card straight with the trip ace on the river.
Ive also seen a nut flush beaten by a runner runner straight flush, i also was at a live game last night and got rivered 4 times.
I'd say the ratio is about perfect. However because you play more hands online than you do live mostly because hands are delt quicker youll see it more often.