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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    merenovice,, nothing with fixed odds is ever random,,that is a contradiction of terms :) DOOOHHHHHHH,, you are worthy of your name!!
    Posted by stoneface1
    I thought that "fixed odds" were what we were trying to avoid.

    I'm quite interested in why you associate dealing cards randomly with "fixed odds".
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  • TORTUS007TORTUS007
    edited July 2010
    Every football match you bet on is fixed odds. Not random !!! lol  Look at a few of the world cup results. That must have been fixed aswell then.
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY
    edited July 2010

    Is it Friday then?....lol x 2
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  • dav1964dav1964
    edited July 2010
    Ok mere i hold my hands up ;o) i even posted a load of nonsense in AREA 51 about a 20 second delay in the river card coming ;o) almost convinced myself as i typed it.BUT lol i am a wee bit bored,saw the ops thread and thought id ave a laugh.IF online poker is a fix then i will win the WSOP main event.dav
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  • hogan2089hogan2089
    edited July 2010
    not a conspiracist , by any stretch , but u all need to read up on this story and make up your own minds ....


    http://wickedchopspoker.com/the-ultimatebet-super-user-scandal-part-i/
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  • dav1964dav1964
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    Every football match you bet on is fixed odds. Not random !!! lol  Look at a few of the world cup results. That must have been fixed aswell then.
    Posted by TORTUS007
    ONLY the france games;0)
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  • stoneface1stoneface1
    edited July 2010
    i'm not implying fraud or fixing for those suggesting i am. roulette machines operate below casino table stats as do fruit machines,,both are computer generated and they do so within guidelines governed by the gambling act. i am not for 1 minute suggesting that sky operates in this way but i do know what fixed odds are, where some of the responses from people on here do not,obviously. 2 dice can only produce a certain number of combinations and over time they produce a pyramid bar graph that is a mathematical certainty. in the same way a coin flip or roulette wheel produce a flat bar graph. 52 cards in a deck produce statistical odds and hands in the same way and, said with reservation, witnessing improbable outcomes on a too regular basis flies in the face of mathematical probability! such is against the laws of science and it is quite possible that the computer generating systems have a percentage limitation for error or, guidelines within gaming might even give some percentage allowance for a small anamoly???? those that dont understand what i am saying here please leave your crass remarks for another thread, those with some intelligence please comment further :)
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  • MachkaMachka
    edited July 2010
    Who would benefit from fixing the deck?  Sky?  How?  If it's not Sky can I nominate myself? 
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    i'm not implying fraud or fixing for those suggesting i am. roulette machines operate below casino table stats as do fruit machines,,both are computer generated and they do so within guidelines governed by the gambling act. i am not for 1 minute suggesting that sky operates in this way but i do know what fixed odds are, where some of the responses from people on here do not,obviously. 2 dice can only produce a certain number of combinations and over time they produce a pyramid bar graph that is a mathematical certainty. in the same way a coin flip or roulette wheel produce a flat bar graph. 52 cards in a deck produce statistical odds and hands in the same way and, said with reservation, witnessing improbable outcomes on a too regular basis flies in the face of mathematical probability! such is against the laws of science and it is quite possible that the computer generating systems have a percentage limitation for error or, guidelines within gaming might even give some percentage allowance for a small anamoly???? those that dont understand what i am saying here please leave your crass remarks for another thread, those with some intelligence please comment further :)
    Posted by stoneface1
    as i said... you really dont know ... you are merely pretending to know


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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    i'm not implying fraud or fixing for those suggesting i am. roulette machines operate below casino table stats as do fruit machines,,both are computer generated and they do so within guidelines governed by the gambling act. i am not for 1 minute suggesting that sky operates in this way but i do know what fixed odds are, where some of the responses from people on here do not,obviously. 2 dice can only produce a certain number of combinations and over time they produce a pyramid bar graph that is a mathematical certainty. in the same way a coin flip or roulette wheel produce a flat bar graph. 52 cards in a deck produce statistical odds and hands in the same way and, said with reservation, witnessing improbable outcomes on a too regular basis flies in the face of mathematical probability! such is against the laws of science and it is quite possible that the computer generating systems have a percentage limitation for error or, guidelines within gaming might even give some percentage allowance for a small anamoly???? those that dont understand what i am saying here please leave your crass remarks for another thread, those with some intelligence please comment further :)
    Posted by stoneface1

    just a thought... have you read the Da Vinci Code?

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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    I think the following blog is essential reading for this topic: http://www.billrini.com/category/is-online-poker-rigged/ Thoughtful and informative stuff. (With a bit of humour too).
    Posted by JingleMa
    Excellent.
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker : just a thought... have you read the Da Vinci Code?
    Posted by aussie09
    Read it?
    He wrote it!
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  • stoneface1stoneface1
    edited July 2010
    aussie if you read what i have said i have never claimed to know, however, i am yet to be convinced that computer generated poker plays exactly like a cold deck of cards. call me a sceptic or a doubting thomas but mathematically i am definitely not backward! neither am i a brilliant poker player but i'm not a bad 1 either :) to those accusing me of  calling sky fraudulent or rigged, that is rubbish  and entirely outside of my thinking.
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited July 2010

    right, i am off to bed...if the world isn't here tomorrow i will be so miffed.


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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    aussie if you read what i have said i have never claimed to know, however, i am yet to be convinced that computer generated poker plays exactly like a cold deck of cards. call me a sceptic or a doubting thomas but mathematically i am definitely not backward! neither am i a brilliant poker player but i'm not a bad 1 either :) to those accusing me of  calling sky fraudulent or rigged, that is rubbish  and entirely outside of my thinking.
    Posted by stoneface1
    as ed giddins quoted meatloaf, "two out of three ain't bad"

    night night


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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited July 2010

    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    i'm not implying fraud or fixing for those suggesting i am. roulette machines operate below casino table stats as do fruit machines,,both are computer generated and they do so within guidelines governed by the gambling act. i am not for 1 minute suggesting that sky operates in this way but i do know what fixed odds are, where some of the responses from people on here do not,obviously. 2 dice can only produce a certain number of combinations and over time they produce a pyramid bar graph that is a mathematical certainty. in the same way a coin flip or roulette wheel produce a flat bar graph. 52 cards in a deck produce statistical odds and hands in the same way and, said with reservation, witnessing improbable outcomes on a too regular basis flies in the face of mathematical probability! such is against the laws of science and it is quite possible that the computer generating systems have a percentage limitation for error or, guidelines within gaming might even give some percentage allowance for a small anamoly???? those that dont understand what i am saying here please leave your crass remarks for another thread, those with some intelligence please comment further :)
    Posted by stoneface1
    You appear to be trying to have a rational debate so I will further indulge you.

    Basically, what you have written is a load of tosh.
    There is no correlation between probability and "certainty". They are completely different concepts.
    A tossed coin could fall heads for an infinite number of consecutive tosses.

    If a coin where guaranteed to fall heads 50% of the time for a given number of tosses, that would indeed be "rigged". In a similar way if AA hole cards were guaranteed to win every time or 80% of the time, that would be rigged. In poker, as in life, strange things happen. You need to accept it. In poker, it is easy - if you don't like it you can just walk away. In life, it is a little trickier.






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  • stoneface1stoneface1
    edited July 2010
    mere novice you are either deluded or uneducated? coinflip infinite heads??? give me a break with your rational argument please!!! ;):))))
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  • emilyeggemilyegg
    edited July 2010

    I'm off for a tweak if Laid Bare is on Bravo+1. Night.

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  • stoneface1stoneface1
    edited July 2010
    mere novice,, attempt your analogy and get back to me when you come close say 50 heads for starters ;)
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3
    edited July 2010
    idiot of the year award.
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    mere novice you are either deluded or uneducated? coinflip infinite heads??? give me a break with your rational argument please!!! ;):))))
    Posted by stoneface1
    I can assure you that I am neither deluded or uneducated.
    I have a degree in Mathematical Sciences in which I studied a fair bit of statistics.

    You appear to be mistaken in some of your beliefs.

    The sum of the spots of two thrown dice do not produce a pyramid over a given number of throws.
    The expectation is that it is will approximate to this but there are no guarantees.
    If it was guaranteed it would not be random and, I believe, this would defeat the purpose of your argument.
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited July 2010

    leave it merenovice...its not worth it.   especially as emiltyegg says, laid bare is on now, somewhere


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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    leave it merenovice...its not worth it.   especially as emiltyegg says, laid bare is on now, somewhere
    Posted by aussie09
    Sorry, I can't help myself.
    This thread is amusing me greatly - almost as much as the repeat of QI that I'm watching (which amuses me greatly).

    I couldn't find "Laid Bare".
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker : Sorry, I can't help myself. This thread is amusing me greatly - almost as much as the repeat of QI that I'm watching (which amuses me greatly). I couldn't find "Laid Bare".
    Posted by MereNovice
    me too.  andy warhols' rabbit theory


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  • stoneface1stoneface1
    edited July 2010
    mere novices,, that is absolute hogwash and no mathematician would comment as you have just done. not only has it been tried and tested countless times it is how casinos make money!! probability implications are certain over time and fixed odds generate certainty due to such, so save your lectures and demonstrate proof of your theory of chance,,,please!!! :)

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  • MereNoviceMereNovice
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    mere novices,, that is absolute hogwash and no mathematician would comment as you have just done. not only has it been tried and tested countless times it is how casinos make money!! probability implications are certain over time and fixed odds generate certainty due to such, so save your lectures and demonstrate proof of your theory of chance,,,please!!! :)
    Posted by stoneface1
    You appear to be  unaware of the meaning of the word "certain".
    Look it up - it may surprise you.
    It certainly has no correlation to the likelihood of a coin tossed 100 times producing 50 heads and 50 tails.

    I'm happy to debate this until I fall asleep but I can't guarantee when that will be. It has been between 4am and 8am every day for the last week but I can't be certain that will happen this morning.

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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: computer generated poker:
    mere novices,, that is absolute hogwash and no mathematician would comment as you have just done. not only has it been tried and tested countless times it is how casinos make money!! probability implications are certain over time and fixed odds generate certainty due to such, so save your lectures and demonstrate proof of your theory of chance,,,please!!! :)
    Posted by stoneface1
    stoneface... please stop hijacking this thread with random words.  please construct sentences based on sequential thought.  amd just a thought... are you that computer based word generator programme once used by richard whitely on countdown?
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited July 2010

    stoneface, you're one sandwich short of a picnic.  refer to my previous responses.  you are going round in circles.  a good thing will be ro re-read your own comments tomorrow morning when you are sober.

     



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  • stoneface1stoneface1
    edited July 2010
    aussie go to bed you are not providing any comment relevant to the thread.
    mere novices, provide some information that supports your theories or some that disproves mine on the laws of probability,,,PLEASE!!!!
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  • stoneface1stoneface1
    edited July 2010
    YOUR SURE NOVICES, and i await your proof in practice or otherwise to support your infinite theories of possibilities.......haha,lmao!  ;)
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