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SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????

edited October 2010 in Poker Chat
Having the impression that our TSP guys are going to be entered for live tournaments in the coming few months, why are they not playing many tournies on here ?

Out of the whole team Gliterbabe is the only one who has cashed at all in any Sky tournaments this month.

I dont imagine Sky are going to be putting you in to play cash anywhere, so its surprising you are not putting in more tourny time. You all have frightening and profitable skills at the cash tables, and may have the incentive to play there at the moment.

It would be good to see you all getting involved in more MTTs for two reasons.

Firstly to generate more interest in some of our tournies, the Monday £20 deepie would benefit from your presence, and maybe we could even revive the dead Sunday £50 deepie too.

Secondly there is a huge difference between tournies and cash, and sometimes the adjustment is tricky and takes time. I have more confidence in some of the team than others in making that adjustment quickly.

The best of luck to you all !

Tony



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  • edited October 2010
    Yes, it would be good to see the TSP players register for the £55 deepie on a Sunday and I wd certainly register to take them on, but alas I fear they are too busy on a Sunday.  I did have Lolufold on my Primo table last Sunday.
  • edited October 2010

    Hi Tony,

    Watch this space!

    You will be seeing exactly what your Post suggests. Everything is being organised & set up as we speak. It's incredibly complex to get all the little ducks lined up at the same time, & it's been a slightly difficult week, with all the nonsense & stuff, but details will be coming very soon.

    All of the TSP boys, meanwhile, have been hard at work on the Cash Tables, while the backroom boys - I think I'm the water-carrier - organise all the ancillary stuff that goes with TSP. I'm running as fast as my little legs will go......

    News sooooooooooooooooooon.

    PS - I've just stuck a Blog up, by the bye. Some of which may interest you. (Luton tomorrow?).
  • edited October 2010
    I would imagine that Sky are gonna plan each TSP to host their own tournie, such as the DanTB deepstack.
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    I would imagine that Sky are gonna plan each TSP to host their own tournie, such as the DanTB deepstack.
    Posted by scotty77
    You are on the right lines, Ryan......
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    Hi Tony, Watch this space! You will be seeing exactly what your Post suggests. Everything is being organised & set up as we speak. It's incredibly complex to get all the little ducks lined up at the same time, & it's been a slightly difficult week, with all the nonsense & stuff, but details will be coming very soon. All of the TSP boys, meanwhile, have been hard at work on the Cash Tables, while the backroom boys - I think I'm the water-carrier - organise all the ancillary stuff that goes with TSP. I'm running as fast as my little legs will go...... News sooooooooooooooooooon. PS - I've just stuck a Blog up, by the bye. Some of which may interest you. (Luton tomorrow?).
    Posted by Tikay10
    I was meaning to play Luton tonight having escaped from going to Germany, but ran out of time this afternoon.

    Can I buy into that GUKPT tomorrow?
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    I would imagine that Sky are gonna plan each TSP to host their own tournie, such as the DanTB deepstack.
    Posted by scotty77
    The LML 60p roulette bounty hunter :)
  • edited October 2010
    lml 30p roulette BH :)
  • edited October 2010
    I would like to add that TSP is a great idea for the site and the lineup is gr8 so far good luck to all of you lot in all u play!!
    unless im in the tournament though.
    Dont know about the t-shirts though :)
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS???? : I was meaning to play Luton tonight having escaped from going to Germany, but ran out of time this afternoon. Can I buy into that GUKPT tomorrow?
    Posted by penguin7
    Yes Tony, 2pm start, late buy-ins are usually permitted during the first 2 x 40 minute Levels.
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:


    How very rude.. Surely it will be the LML 56p velocity Roulette BH??! ;)


  • edited October 2010
    I think the reason why so many cash players don't play more tournies is because of the choice, the buyin, and the field sizes.  The upcoming tournies at a glance right now:
    10k BH sat
    20 gtd
    100 DS
    velocity sat
    100 gtd
    omaha hilo
    chip/chair
    500 BH
    take on tikay
    PLO
    250 gtd

    None of the above, and none of anything i can see in the lobby is that attractive to play remembering TSP players are mainly, if not wholly professional players.  I don't really think the TSP'ers necessarily need practice playing micro buyin small field mtt's.  If anything, i suggest it would negatively affect their games.
    They are of course good mtt players as well as cash who have proved they are more than capable in the tournament arena.  Just have a look at past results and sharkscope stats
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    I think the reason why so many cash players don't play more tournies is because of the choice, the buyin, and the field sizes.  The upcoming tournies at a glance right now: 10k BH sat 20 gtd 100 DS velocity sat 100 gtd omaha hilo chip/chair 500 BH take on tikay PLO 250 gtd None of the above, and none of anything i can see in the lobby is that attractive to play remembering TSP players are mainly, if not wholly professional players.  I don't really think the TSP'ers necessarily need practice playing micro buyin small field mtt's.  If anything, i suggest it would negatively affect their games. They are of course good mtt players as well as cash who have proved they are more than capable in the tournament arena.  Just have a look at past results and sharkscope stats
    Posted by cottlad
    Totally in agreement with what you say about the lack of decent tournies on here. There were actually more worthwhile MTTs two years ago than there are now.

    But the point of my post was that I would like to see the TSP guys, (and more of the excellent cash specialists) supporting the better tournies.

    I also still think there is a valid point about the difficulty of switching from cash to tournies.

    Lolufold after Vegas certainly has nothing to prove ! Nor does Dan after his SPT year.

    A couple of years ago Gliterbabe was playing lots of MTT here before finding a lucrative niche on the cash tables. Every time I look at his cash table he seems to have the biggest stack and never hides from anyone.

    James has a few excellent tournament results on his CV.

    But I have played with him in several tournaments, both SPT and online where he has made mistakes and gone out early. And he has always of course been honest enough to be totally selfcritical afterwards, and would probably also admit that his game which works so well at cash needs tweaking in tournies.

    So I am sure that they will be asked to play a lot more MTTs here before their major events and hope this helps James and the others, as I really want them all to do well.
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS???? : Totally in agreement with what you say about the lack of decent tournies on here . There were actually more worthwhile MTTs two years ago than there are now. But the point of my post was that I would like to see the TSP guys, (and more of the excellent cash specialists) supporting the better tournies. I also still think there is a valid point about the difficulty of switching from cash to tournies. Lolufold after Vegas certainly has nothing to prove ! Nor does Dan after his SPT year. A couple of years ago Gliterbabe was playing lots of MTT here before finding a lucrative niche on the cash tables. Every time I look at his cash table he seems to have the biggest stack and never hides from anyone. James has a few excellent tournament results on his CV. But I have played with him in several tournaments, both SPT and online where he has made mistakes and gone out early. And he has always of course been honest enough to be totally selfcritical afterwards, and would probably also admit that his game which works so well at cash needs tweaking in tournies. So I am sure that they will be asked to play a lot more MTTs here before their major events and hope this helps James and the others, as I really want them all to do well.
    Posted by penguin7
    lol with respect, im not sure you actually know anything about James. With over $150k of live winnings, and one of the most respected players on the circuit. He also has more experience than most at live mtts.
  • edited October 2010

    I don't really know James as a person just as lJamesl on sky. We all know that he is a hell of a cash player and when it comes to mtt's on sky we haven't seen him play that much - why - probably because other sites have more appeal to him with bigger value mtt's but when he played the £220 jobbie the other month,most of the community were in awe of his play - just incredible tbh and an inspiration to any1 watching that tournament . Lolufold had a great result in the WSOP but James has nothing to prove in Live Poker imo, he has incrredible results in GUKPT and EPT's and through that has the best Live Poker CV from the group imo. All these guys will do great and with James style he will be a real force on the Live circuit with our without TSP.

    With regards to your SPT comment of James having an early exit Tony - tbh I don't think that he can be judged on that - no doubt James was playing aggro in order to get a stack because tbf in these things you need a lot of luck due to how fast they play therefore I see noting wrong going FTW early in them rather than folding your way out, that just aint his style and long may it continue :)

  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS???? : lol not sure you actually know anything about James. With over $150k of live winnings, and one of the most respected players on the circuit. He also has more experience than most at live mtts.
    Posted by 5toneFace
    Certainly aware and envious of his superb record, but only relating to comments made by him in a PM, on 865, and at an SPT event.

    Maybe I am wrong, just because I find it hard to take my tournament skills to the cash tables !

    And yes Dyl , I did watch that £220 event, he was brilliant to watch. Poker as I love to see it played.

    I too think it would be incredibly difficult to find a better TSP.

    And I would love to hear and learn from any of their comments on switching between cash and tournies


  • edited October 2010
    IMO James has best and most impressive Live MTT CV out of all of TSP. I think he is a favourite out of the team to run deep in whatever events he plays.

    Also about the SPT, all of the lads usually dont take these as seriously as we probably should as we dont mind being knocked out early so we can get straight up to the bar, as these events are more about catching up with friends and having a good time than serious poker grinding.
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    IMO James has best and most impressive Live MTT CV out of all of TSP. I think he is a favourite out of the team to run deep in whatever events he plays. Also about the SPT, all of the lads usually dont take these as seriously as we probably should as we dont mind being knocked out early so we can get straight up to the bar, as these events are more about catching up with friends and having a good time than serious poker grinding.
    Posted by BrownnDog
    Lewis,

    Do the Bar Staff ask you for ID?
  • edited October 2010
    hahaha yeah all the time. I knew you wouldn't be able to help yourself lol


    Do they ask to see your free bus pass? ;)
  • edited October 2010
    FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    hahaha yeah all the time. I knew you wouldn't be able to help yourself lol Do they ask to see your free bus pass? ;)
    Posted by BrownnDog
    Mods - ban, plz.
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    IMO James has best and most impressive Live MTT CV out of all of TSP. I think he is a favourite out of the team to run deep in whatever events he plays. Also about the SPT, all of the lads usually dont take these as seriously as we probably should as we dont mind being knocked out early so we can get straight up to the bar, as these events are more about catching up with friends and having a good time than serious poker grinding.
    Posted by BrownnDog
    Please could you tell Dan that, Lewis ?
  • edited October 2010
    Sure, I talk to him nearly everyday so I'll tell him tomorrow


    EDIT: He plays better drunk ;)
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
    Posted by 5toneFace
    lol!
  • edited October 2010
    I wasn''t going to bother replying to this because I thought it was obvious I have nothing to prove in live mtts and I hope that in the future I will win a big one. 1stly my close poker friends are some of the best tournament players in the UK and the world. We always discuss hands and strategy and there is no better knowledge you can gain than from talking to these sort of players. When it all comes together and you run good you can win any tournament in the world believe me, they've done it. My close poker friends include Jake Cody (EPT and WPT winner), Toby Lewis (EPT Winner), Chris Moorman (One of the best online mtt players in the world), James Dempsey (WSOP Bracelet winner) the list is endless. Us guys chat all the time about hands. 

    I have to admit though, I'm a bit confused as to why all these threads are aimed at me about Team Sky Poker and especially by Tony who obviously doesn't even know me. 

    So Tony your basically saying you think your better at torny's than me, fair enough. All I can say to that is instead of posting in a forum singling me out why don't you prove it! 

    I'd happily take a prop bet with you for a large amount of money that if you play exactly the same tornys as me I will do better in them than you in cashes and prize money. Let me know if you fancy it.

    Now before I say this understand that Dan and Redmond are not only my team m8s but they are my friends. I rate Dan and Redmond without any questionable doubt they are both awesome players in cash and mtt. 

    What I really don't rate is your comment; Dan and Redmond have nothing to prove but I do?! Really?

    1stly none of us have anything to prove neither to you or anyone on this forum.
     
    You say Dan is exempt from yours or anyone else's judgement because Dan won a sky poker tour? You mean one of those comps that are made fast and crap-shooty so everyone of all abilities has a chance to win them. I'm not saying he didn't play brilliantly through out and deserve his victory but how can you say Dan's fine but I'm not. It just proves to me that your understanding of tournaments is very basic if not bias to yourself. 
    Dan is an excellent player and like everyone else in the team deserves his place, not because he won a sky event but because he is an excellent and consistent winning player.

    You also go onto say Redmond's fine because he cashed in one big torny where there are 7000 runners do you realise how many flips and how good you have to run to go deep in any sort of comp like that. He no doubt played brilliantly and deserved his deep run he is a quality player but I'm sure he will tell you himself that he got lucky along the way. My only belief is because you cashed in this comp you believe that anyone who cashed deeper than you is god like. I also know Redmond used to be a mtt pro before he played cash and I know his knowledge of the game is excellent because we have discussed poker before and we think on the same wave-length. So again its not because of one tournament its because overall he crushes the games whether it be cash or mtt. Talent in both mtts and cash is rare and everyone on this team has that talent its not even an issue that needs to be mentioned by yourself.

    As for you knowing my game well, lets be honest you clearly don't. When I play in a £100 sky poker comp I'm not being big headed but I play for enjoyment I'm there to meet new people and have a laugh. I'm not going to be as bothered if I bust out early and yes I will gamble for a stack early in these because the structure is too fast. 

    You seem like a nice guy when I met you that once Tony but you are really letting yourself down with these comments. You have made it clear in this thread and others that you feel you should be on the team and it seems you feel you should be on instead of me, like I said fair enough then prove it.




  • edited October 2010
    Hey, slow down a minute, James !

    I have made positive comments in this thread and elsewhere about the whole TSP thing , the players selected and your place in the team.

    Are the following phrases critical ?

    Envious of your superb record........brilliant to watch.... poker as it should be played.....excellent tournament record......

    I have also commented on you being a true gentleman on the occassions we have met.

    I started this thread because I noticed that all the TSP guys were playing lots of cash on here but not tournies. That question has been answered by Tikay.

    I was also keen to encourage the TSP and some of the cash players to play more tournaments on here, to get more worthwhile ones running.

    But I also am interested in the difference between cash and tourny play, and any problems switching between the two. I find they require very different thinking, (but I am cr&p at cash anyway) ! And from a couple of comments you made , I thought it was something you were aware of too.

    As I wrote here earlier I think it would be incredibly difficult to make any  better selections for TSP  than you guys. And I happen to agree with what a couple of guys have posted here about you probably to do best in the upcoming events.

    I am totally behind all of TSP.

    As for me thinking that I should have been picked, little chance of that ! I have been playing poorly since coming back from Vegas. I could name 50 guys who deserve it more than me on current form.

    Not to say though that I dont want to get my game together and force my way in at a later date !

    So I will pass on your kind offer of a challenge match but look forward to crossing swords with you when you play in tournaments on here, as I always have done.

    Honestly hope you get out there and prove us right,

    Tony




  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS???? : How very rude.. Surely it will be the LML 56p velocity Roulette BH??! ;)
    Posted by LML
    Is that with or without a live double straddle???
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    hahaha yeah all the time. I knew you wouldn't be able to help yourself lol Do they ask to see your free bus pass? ;)
    Posted by BrownnDog
    no his mum has to go for him ?
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS???? : Is that with or without a live double straddle???
    Posted by GliterBabe
    Depends on whether you are still talking poker or not?
  • edited October 2010
    I don't hold any grudges Tony so I'll leave it at that. 

    I've spoke to the others Dan, Redmond, Wayne, Lisa-marie and I speak for the whole team when I say we are fed-up of all the negative comments, feedback, criticisms. It's really boring. I'm not gonna post anymore on this subject.

    I'm happy to comment on anything else but not this, its like a broken record. People need to let Sky get on with their job they most certainly know better than any of the forum posters.

    GL
  • edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS????:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD TSP BE PLAYING MORE TOURNYS???? : Depends on whether you are still talking poker or not?
    Posted by Machka
    Of course I mean poker !!!! How could you think otherwise .....
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