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The ONLY hand she can c/r me with on this flop that beats me is the one she has, maybe KJ/K8, but fml
8pm hands.
1st hand i like your play preflop and on the flop. The turn is where it get's tricky. I dont like the c/c on the turn! Its a lead out stack off, or a c/r all in. I think were way ahead on turn i want to get the money in innit.
2nd hand, no to jam the turn. You played it fine imo.
3rd hand, ugh! tricky spot once you see that flop, maybe better to check the K high flop tho rather than lead out. Once you lead out and get c/r i think its a fold tbh! But why not jam preflop?? The utg limper dont have to have a hand he can call with, they limp with all sorts of poo utg!
Here is one for you Dohhhhhh! I would love to know what you would do here.. and JC, and anyone?
Its a 11 quid dym.. No reads on anyone. and early days..
Edit. i know Kes has to have something reasonably strong here. but i think he jams AA or KK.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceGREGHOGG Small blind 15.00 15.00 1925.00 3putbeanz Big blind 30.00 45.00 1910.00 Your hole cards Q Q MrMiyagi07 Raise 90.00 135.00 2430.00 JOKER538 Raise 330.00 465.00 1670.00 bezza349 Fold kes69 Call 330.00 795.00 1255.00 GREGHOGG FOLD? or jam?
Brilliant advice in this thread I must say, must read for anyone trying to become a more solid dym player.
A donk maybe, but not a nit.
feel free to rip my play apart. i know its prob a silly move on the bubble, but i dug deep and released the inner dohhhhhh.
I showed my 3 high bluff due to the chat from player X. he was a serial limper and a bit of a pain tbh.
NUTSKIWI Small blind 75.00 75.00 2840.00 GREGHOGG Big blind 150.00 225.00 2255.00 Your hole cards 2 3 SHANKS474 Fold X Call 150.00 375.00 2890.00 NUTSKIWI Call 75.00 450.00 2765.00 GREGHOGG Raise 450.00 900.00 1805.00 X Call 450.00 1350.00 2440.00 NUTSKIWI Fold Flop 9 4 A GREGHOGG Bet 750.00 2100.00 1055.00 X Fold GREGHOGG Show 2 3 GREGHOGG Win 1350.00 2405.00 GREGHOGG Return 750.00 0.00 3155.00
oh and i cashed. ship the 9 quid.
They will destroy your cash game.
Best cash hands = Terrible DYM hands.
Best DYM hands = Small Cash wins, big cash losses.
Best time to play them though is the drunken hours. Folded my way to so many cashes you wouldn't belive it. Just had a total maniac knock out 3 adversaries with the powerhouses that were J3o, K2s and AA just when they weren't expecting it. I didn't play a hand. Very funny. Boring but.
Re 8 PM hands from last night:
Hand 1 - I don't like the limp utg tbh I would just fold. Limping is sometimes OK level 3 but I would prefer to be at least 2nd, preferably 3rd limper. The call of the min raise is fine obv. After that it's a big plus one to what Greg said. Think you played the flop perfect. The turn is the gin card for you, time to get it in vs his wheel (but it has to be now due to the 3rd diamond). So yeah, lead/stack off or c/r all-in, whichever you think has the most chance of getting it in at that point.
Hand 2 - I think you've played this well. The only thing I would do different is bet a bit less on the turn but that's just a personal thing.
Hand 3 - This one looks very tricky. I would like to keep the pot small here and c/c it down or something like that. But with a stack of 1700 and 600 in the pot already, that's just not going to be possible. Personally, I think I would have checked to look for weakness and raised all-in if I saw it. If I saw a pot size bet or other action I would begrudgingly lay it down. Looking at it though, the way you've played it is also very effective as you've found out (really) you're behind so I think you should lay it down to the c/r all-in, like you said you can't beat anything really. The reason I don't lead that flop, though, is that it figures to have hit both the original limper, then the sb, before it has hit you.
JC
I think you need to lay these down. You've still got the OR and the 3-bettor to act behind you. I don't know kes that well but cold-calling big 3 bets in the early levels is so often AK in my experience (a play I don't understand in itself). Re him having AA/KK I definately think anyone would ship KK here and with the AA you're most probably right as well but I would just add the following: With the fact that the 3 bet is large, the fact that he seems to have lost a few chips early, and the fact that he has the button, I think he may flat call here to gamble on/ensure a full double up (+ the change).
Overall, though, definately fold. It's good that this hand came in level 2 for you, I always find it easier to lay down huge hands at these stages.
JC
In Response to Re: Dym thread - 8pm - 2 more post flop.:
Hi mate, no probs, not pushing your luck at all.I can post the hand if you wish but I've just looked and some of the stack sizes aren't showing which makes it tricky. Yes, it was a raise to induce but there was one stack I would have folded to given that there was one really short stack at the table (and I gather the guy on the button must have been really short too but his stack's not showing?). So yeah, it was to target one of the short-stacks but fold if the guy to my immediate left (who must have had me covered, I think he must of been well in the 4000's?) re-shipped on me. Sending everyone a message really, just the same as the AJ hand you posted on the bubble. I had QQ.
Just to pre-empt one main question I can see coming which I've just had to ask myself, why didn't I just ship the QQ with 8 BBs? Well, like I say I think there were 2 players who were really short, one who had me covered, and one who had the same as me If I folded now having raised. I would have still felt in a strong posititon to cash had the guy to my left reshipped on me, while at the same time I think the message I've sent is clear enough that he's not reshipping with less than QQ or AK (he's in the same position as me, he's happy for me to target the short-stacks he's not going to reship on me light at all I don't think).
Hope this helps, if you have any more Qs on this one, or do want it posting, just let me know and I'll give it a go for you.
JC
Just re the QQ hand, from what you've said I think you've got it pretty much spot on. Personally I wouldn't go as far as 77/88 but then again I am on the tight side, I would definately say 10/10 though would be fine.
Re the sick bubble, lol I'm glad you saw and brought that up to be honest. You're not wrong when you say soul destroying lol, and yeah I think you do have to be mentally strong to play loads of DYMs. I had my worst run ever last month and it was very difficult mentally but, touch wood, I got through that one now. Anyway, this particular bubble was one of the worst ever so yeah, just shrug it off, know it's not going to happen very often, and take comfort in your other games you've got going on.
JC
Strange hand eh! I still think i made the right decision tho.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceGREGHOGG Small blind 15.00 15.00 1925.00 3putbeanz Big blind 30.00 45.00 1910.00 Your hole cards Q Q MrMiyagi07 Raise 90.00 135.00 2430.00 JOKER538 Raise 330.00 465.00 1670.00 bezza349 Fold kes69 Call 330.00 795.00 1255.00 GREGHOGG Fold 3putbeanz Call 300.00 1095.00 1610.00 MrMiyagi07 Call 240.00 1335.00 2190.00 Flop 3 3 10 3putbeanz Bet 120.00 1455.00 1490.00 MrMiyagi07 Call 120.00 1575.00 2070.00 JOKER538 All-in 1670.00 3245.00 0.00 kes69 Fold 3putbeanz All-in 1490.00 4735.00 0.00 MrMiyagi07 Fold JOKER538 Unmatched bet 60.00 4675.00 60.00 3putbeanz Show 10 A JOKER538 Show 9 9 Turn 4 River A 3putbeanz Win Two Pairs, Aces and 10s 4675.00 4675.00
Having abit of a nightmare tonight!!!
I just time out/folded here, didn't wanna clash with the big-stack at this stage.
I had notes that this guy is just weird/bad from watching him in some higher level dyms this afternoon.....
Is a fold ok here? Was abit peed off at this stage, and was tempted to just JAM! But managed to just keep my discipline I think....
Just looking for confirmation/rub downs at how bad this re-ship is....
Can't get the aggression out of me, I have AJ and a guy is stealing from me in the small blind.
Tbf, he called at the very last second, nearly turned it into a bluff and got it thru! lol
As for flair with your 72, see my 23 play earlier in the thread. i think i win.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancerevell03 Small blind 15.00 15.00 1805.00 GREGHOGG Big blind 30.00 45.00 1940.00 Your hole cards 9 7 wightprawn Call 30.00 75.00 1820.00 tedbaker30 Fold 1245 Fold badbaz847 Fold revell03 Call 15.00 90.00 1790.00 GREGHOGG Check Flop 6 8 5 revell03 Check GREGHOGG Check wightprawn Check Turn 4 revell03 Bet 60.00 150.00 1730.00 GREGHOGG Raise 210.00 360.00 1730.00 wightprawn Call 210.00 570.00 1610.00 revell03 Fold River 6 GREGHOGG Check wightprawn Bet 150.00 720.00 1460.00 GREGHOGG Call 150.00 870.00 1580.00 wightprawn Show 5 6 GREGHOGG Show 9 7 wightprawn Win Full House, 6s and 5s 870.00 2330.00
Sorry to hijack your thread with my hands dohhhhhh but i guess you dont mind. Whatdathink about this squeeze? it normally works cos i think i mighta folded every hand up to this point.. lol
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancedalzman Small blind 75.00 75.00 3730.00 GREGHOGG Big blind 150.00 225.00 1435.00 Your hole cards 10 5 Carlos_ Fold gus883 Call 150.00 375.00 1060.00 dalzman Call 75.00 450.00 3655.00 GREGHOGG All-in 1435.00 1885.00 0.00 gus883 Fold dalzman Fold GREGHOGG Muck GREGHOGG Win 450.00 450.00 GREGHOGG Return 1435.00 0.00 1885.00
Unsure what to do here, wether to open jam, or raise fold.
Thoughts?
The big blind has about 4k and has been really tight since doubling up.......
Other guys stack not showing, has around 2k.
Re Greghoggs hands:
I really like the squeeze there, like you say, so long as it has a very good chance of getting through. There's almost a 3rd of your stack out there with no strength shown, so yeah squeeze away I would say. I also like the way you've played the straight hand, risk aversion is key and flatting on the end is a great play in my opinion.
Fist pump woooooo
I think 88 is about the worst i make this shove with tho. it is marginal!
Caption to go with this hand is just "WTF"
I mean, I use the over-bet, as I would in NLHE......
Then flat his raise!!!!
He MUST have the nuts to raise my bet otr? lol......
Give me your worst.....