f off pod told u before ,should listen to someone who has more experience and knowledge than YOU!.... when it outs soon enough this site is blatantly changed for the worse and players start seeing through the mist then they wont be enjoying it much longer . spoof attack..ip connections getting totally fxxxx over .still wat would i do if i was them? better off to discconect to avoid all the bad coolers .Soon as you find that bad stiff happens to you mate start talk the talk. stick to cash pod least your bankroll is good there. Why do u think they made these threads?? errr ummm eeee Posted by AJW1976
Its pretty clear many players suspect the randomness of the cards on this site, including myself, but even I have no idea what you are talking about
I think he has been annoyed by a tiny chinaman ( around the size of an electron ) that has sneaked into his pc via his isp, and is now changing all his cards for c rap ones
May if I can be adept to making a concertive suggestion here and say yes things have changed ,and probably for the worse since Its all in the fine details anyway,..My network is constantly getting attacked ,Im not sure how these sites get away with it but one things for certain , Im getting doss attacked from chinese web client computers or ip spoofed addreses,..when Im loggin into play on a sky tourney I get network blocked packets not just from the sky site but from chinese ip network addresses,..whether these packets of data relay back to thier advertising or web based servers on sky I wouldnt have a clue about but one things for certain my ratings on here have dropped 10 fold,and Ive continued to lose tournaments and sattlites whenever I log on now. I had noticed this since my very first 10k bounty hunter ,sky phoned my ole folks house up asking to talk to me over a network connection issue,I declined to be forthcoming in any conversation until I found out a little more about what was going on,.as far as I was aware I think the network or connection is corrupt thats just my way of looking at this as the same thing is happening on stars /fulltilt poker and every time i logged into absolute pokers servers the very same thing used to happen...This was as well specific ip address ranges and all from chinese province networks. If it is indeed true that thier main sponser or admin control comes through affiliated chinese web servers I shall not be too happy and nor will 2plus2 when they find out about the real truth on how these poker sites /companys operate thier logistics. I am completely fed up with losing online so I decided to quit my main poker accounts with ft and stars and have also been banned from absolute poker after their staff closed my account...I fear that my online play is coming to a slight halt no-end until the issues are sorted out. Whatsmore the thing about the iesnare from iovation owned by greg pierson in the scam of absolute poker and his backbone of intelligence and my losing on the famous playtech software 4 times continued irish open main events lost games ,I think im entitled to begrudge and bemoan what seems like an in-depth scam on these sites no end....However you download thier software and give them permission access rights to your harddrive and computer backend resources its merely possible to claim that something indeed fishy in going on.! 2plus2 mods will thank me one day for what seems like a global scam to outwit small time investors in a company that will continue to rip off its customers. Read my DOC31 threads on 2plus2 that might explain why I am steamed right now. Posted by AJW1976
In Response to Re: Irishrover was right---- site has changed, and is now ripping us off : Meth amphetomine..... dont go there kids...:) Posted by djblacke04
getting boring ,thread starting to sound like 2plu2 with their mods sticking up for thier Favourite shills on the poker sites. Did you have to stoop so low as to ave to bring /blame on drugs concept thats an old tricks, try a different mode of reasoning,
In Response to Re: Irishrover was right---- site has changed, and is now ripping us off: [QUOTE]if theres anything u do know or feel would be valuable contribution to the thresed argument please do let us all know oynutter.! If theres one thing I do see is a lot of unregistered arguments both for and against the poker companys , Of course ive spent only 10k to find out that getting ripped off is easy . I think I take irishrovers view ,If they were cheating the players surely only being on a VIRGIN MEDIA SERVICE BROADBAND would detect the issue and remote log in theft manipulation,.! Ask them seriously what they think of the situation Im almost sure youll get some sorry bad answers about the software /files etc,and constant network breaches.Ask them if the packet data transmitted is 100% secure . There was a guy who went to china on behalf of the bbc report over illegal computer fraud but I understan pokerstars were on the job/ball. Posted by AJW1976 And what argument would that be?
In Response to Re: Irishrover was right---- site has changed, and is now ripping us off : employed by the site by any chance? Posted by AJW1976
lol....U think i am employed by the site.....
omg.....
did u not read my 500 +post thread....
i just think that maybe,you need to get a grip....
packet data,chinese factions,please...
we all know they are based in Alderney..for tax reasons...
please say something sensible,it is far more likely that you have gone to a dodgy website (probably pornn) or even an innocent looking download site,infected your pc with a trojan,and are getting hacked by a spotty teenager....
AJ I've read all your posts on here and 2+2 and I think you're on the wrong track entirely.
This site doesn't have bots. It's not worth it. No site picks on individual players - that's a nonsense and wouldn't be good business. Whether the cards are sufficiently random is definitely questionable. What is more pertinent is whether there are software sub-routines involved which affect the outcomes of any game.
The most profitable way for sites to operate is with players remaining customers, depositing regularly and thereby increasing the rake. Sites make most money in two ways - Rake and money deposited into the site. The most obvious way to achieve this would be to level the playing field and increase the circulation of money on the site.
None of this is proven and whether it ever could be is doubtful. Questions remain unanswered and so if anyone wishes to play online poker they must live with what we have and learn to play ''the game'' ......... and that's not necessarily poker.
so u are calling me a liar ,.. better off taking some anger management lessons like someone else I know , I dont lie about anything ,Ill admit when Im wrong I got nothing to hide U prolly know more about me than I know myself.. What has the alderney gaming board gotta do with the network servers that your using ?? where does the advertising come from more importantly and then last question I can quite clearly answer is No I dont do smoke crack ,dont drink exceessively and I dont particarlarly like your questioning me on your stupid responses .And no my computer doesnt have any viruses ,has no instant download porner and is 100% looked after by virgin media and one other company in the usa for tech reasons. I dont have to answer to you or anyone on here ,what interests me is that sky think I ripped them off when in fact the overall problems are with the network and dissconnections, and please note this is not JUST HAPPENING ON THIS ONE SITE ALONE, By the way what does a shill or prop player do in a tournament?? Why doesnt sky just come out and tell it how it is and say theres robots on the site?? This is meant to be a fun /friendly place to play poker and when people start questioning my posts over issues I have no control over which need seriously addressing then of course Im going to feel a little fxxxx off.! Posted by AJW1976
i take it you have not been winning then lately..:)_
oo hold on... i see you have played a lot of freerolls lately......
In Response to Re: Irishrover was right---- site has changed, and is now ripping us off : Your post just ended when You said it hasnt been PROVEN ,! what about absolute poker ,what about pokerstars and their admission about the robots used on that site?? Im a little lost , please try and explain why they were runnning iesnare on peoples machines? this anti-fraud device is a load od bs and u know it. I like the players only on this site that I know ,But am struggling to come to any such reasoning with any of you because obviously you dont have the virgin media security service that I have . I found it much easier to win when I was not getting these ip spoof attacks ,..Honestly If you want to review my hh files go ahead but seriously I ran so good in tournaments like you wouldnt believe ,Obviously This run of luck /wins had to end.,And now I know why.! If you ever found out the sites were cheating the players dont you think you would be a little upset too sir? Posted by AJW1976
ok i believe you ,little chinese men are making the cards turn on us and ,dishing out bad beats...
obviously the most sensible thing ive ever heard....
In Response to Re: Irishrover was right---- site has changed, and is now ripping us off : Your post just ended when You said it hasnt been PROVEN ,! what about absolute poker ,what about pokerstars and their admission about the robots used on that site?? Im a little lost , please try and explain why they were runnning iesnare on peoples machines? this anti-fraud device is a load od bs and u know it. I like the players only on this site that I know ,But am struggling to come to any such reasoning with any of you because obviously you dont have the virgin media security service that I have . I found it much easier to win when I was not getting these ip spoof attacks ,..Honestly If you want to review my hh files go ahead but seriously I ran so good in tournaments like you wouldnt believe ,Obviously This run of luck /wins had to end.,And now I know why.! If you ever found out the sites were cheating the players dont you think you would be a little upset too sir? Posted by AJW1976
I think you maybe need to slow down a touch and read posts a little more carefully.
The absolute scandal is well documented and I read every post relating to it. That was a case of a super-user account on the inside. That has little or nothing to do with what you are saying. PS admission relating to bots again is hardly relevant.
When I said ''it has not been proven'' I was referring directly to what I had just written - maybe I didn't make that clear enough.
The anti-fraud software may well be relevant. It is part of the sub-routines I mentioned in my post.
In Response to Re: Irishrover was right---- site has changed, and is now ripping us off : I think you maybe need to slow down a touch and read posts a little more carefully. The absolute scandal is well documented and I read every post relating to it. That was a case of a super-user account on the inside. That has little or nothing to do with what you are saying. PS admission relating to bots again is hardly relevant. When I said ''it has not been proven'' I was referring directly to what I had just written - maybe I didn't make that clear enough. Posted by elsadog
Maybe it's impossible for you to make anything clear enough?
In Response to Re: Irishrover was right---- site has changed, and is now ripping us off : Maybe it's impossible for you to make anything clear enough? Posted by oynutter
Just spent the last 30 mins reading this thread,excellent stuff. The only thing im really peeved off with lately is all this LAGGY nonsense on the download,its costing me bigtime xxx Posted by debdobs_67
Get out while you can Debs - they're all nuts in here. I'm trying to contain them but it's touch and go.
In Response to Re: Irishrover was right---- site has changed, and is now ripping us off : Must be the same guy I recognise the handwriting ) Posted by elsadog
i cant take anymore,am going to eat my swirly whirly bubble gum flavoured ice cream and go to bed...:) night all..
In Response to Re: Irishrover was right---- site has changed, and is now ripping us off : i cant take anymore,am going to eat my swirly whirly bubble gum flavoured ice cream and go to bed...:) night all.. Posted by djblacke04
I think he has been annoyed by a tiny chinaman ( around the size of an electon ) that has sneaked into his pc via his isp, and is now changing all his cards for c rap ones Posted by oynutter
aaron, you are embarrassing yourself and i feel embarrassed that i know you. you over stepped the mark last night comming onto the spt semi spouting more dross. think you and me should have a little CHAT on thurs if you turn up!
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[QUOTE]if theres anything u do know or feel would be valuable contribution to the thresed argument please do let us all know oynutter.! If theres one thing I do see is a lot of unregistered arguments both for and against the poker companys , Of course ive spent only 10k to find out that getting ripped off is easy . I think I take irishrovers view ,If they were cheating the players surely only being on a VIRGIN MEDIA SERVICE BROADBAND would detect the issue and remote log in theft manipulation,.! Ask them seriously what they think of the situation Im almost sure youll get some sorry bad answers about the software /files etc,and constant network breaches.Ask them if the packet data transmitted is 100% secure . There was a guy who went to china on behalf of the bbc report over illegal computer fraud but I understan pokerstars were on the job/ball.
Posted by AJW1976
And what argument would that be?
我们得到了所有的钱很快
The only thing im really peeved off with lately is all this LAGGY nonsense on the download,its costing me bigtime xxx