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DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited May 2011

    How are people getting on with these sites?

    Is there more info available to us? -

    Is it still daft to make a deposit on these sites or have things cleared up and it's ok now?

    There's obv some big tournys going on elsewhere at the mo, can anyone help out a naive plonker that wants to give them ago?

    Cheerz........
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    How are people getting on with these sites? Is there more info available to us? - Is it still daft to make a deposit on these sites or have things cleared up and it's ok now? There's obv some big tournys going on elsewhere at the mo, can anyone help out a naive plonker that wants to give them ago? Cheerz........
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
     I think this should clear it up for you doh >>>>

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk&feature=related






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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites :  I think this should clear it up for you doh /> /> />> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk&feature=related
    Posted by IRISHROVER

    lol!!!

    Obviously, I feel daft for asking now!

    That's the last time I put my hand up to ask a question in class.

    :(
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites : lol!!! Obviously, I feel daft for asking now! That's the last time I put my hand up to ask a question in class. :(
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    on a serious note ,

    on any given day ,
    deposit enough to play & withdraw most of it that day ,
    if you win .
    that's what i have being doing on stars ,
    just incase it goes wallop  .
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  • N1CKN1CK
    edited May 2011
    i hear isaac haxton is trying to sell 300k worth of ub/ap funds for 60k so i guess you dont want to be depositing there in the near future
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  • MR-CHIPS-DMR-CHIPS-D
    edited May 2011
    Another 1 Bites the dust!

    D*Y*E* ROOM.COM
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited June 2011
    The following is taken from Pokernews.com:

    In the early hours of Wednesday morning, the poker world learned that the Alderney Gambling Control Commission (AGCC) suspended the license of Full Tilt Poker and ordered the site to suspend all operations. According to preliminary reports, games on Full Tilt worldwide came to a sudden halt.The AGCC released the following statement on the matter:"Alderney Gambling Control Commission (AGCC) has today issued Hearing Notices under Regulation 46 of its Regulations to Vantage Ltd, Oxalic Ltd, Filco Ltd and Orinic Ltd, collectively trading as FULL TILT POKER.In addition, AGCC has issued Suspension Notices under Regulation 47 to the above named companies requiring them to suspend all operations with immediate effect.The decision to suspend these licenses follows a special investigation prompted by the indictments unsealed by US Attorney General’s Office in the Southern District of New York on 15th April 2011, during which grounds were found to indicate that these licensees and their business associates were operating contrary to Alderney legislation. The nature of the findings necessitated the taking of immediate action in the public interest.The venue and date for the hearing will be announced in due course.Issued by:André Wilsenach (Executive Director)
    Alderney Gambling Control Commission
    Alderney,
    Channel Islands    Date issued: 29th June 2011"In a separate statement, the AGCC added:"The above named companies must, until the Suspension Notices are cancelled or the Commissioners of AGCC have reached a determination at the conclusion of the hearing convened in accordance with Regulation 46 of the Alderney eGambling Regulations, 2009 cease to exercise their eGambling licenses, which means that these licensees must from today cease to: Register new customers;Accept deposits from existing customers;Allow existing customers to withdraw funds that are held in their accounts; andPermit customers to participate in any form of poker game play or gambling transaction. The Alderney Gambling Control Commission will hear the matters contained in the Hearing Notices at a Regulatory Hearing which will commence at 10.00am on Tuesday 26th July, 2011 at the Victoria Park Plaza Hotel, 239 Vauxhall Bridge Road, London SW1V 1EQ. In the event that there is a change to these details this notice will be amended."André Wilsenach, Executive Director of the AGCC, went on to say: "The decision to suspend the eGambling licence was in the public interest and, because of the seriousness and urgency of the matter, it required that immediate action be taken ahead of the regulatory hearing."For those who may recall, the aforementioned investigation is same which the alluded to in an earlier statement by the AGCC. For more on the AGCC back story, be sure to revisit PokerNews' interview with Michael Ellen, director of licensing and strategy for the AGCC.So far no word from Full Tilt, other that a banner on Fulltiltpoker stating: “Scheduled Maintenance In Progress - The system is currently down for maintenance. Please check back soon!”This is a breaking story and PokerNews will be sure to bring you all the developments as they happen.
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited June 2011
    My advice for anyone with money still on FTP:

    Keep any and all info you have about your current FTP roll.
    Get a screenshot if you can of your Cashier page on FTP (if possible, haven't played there in years).
    If you can get in, I would advise you to make a withdraw request for your entire straight away, although I would not be confident of it's success.
    If the amount is less than around $4000, look into a future small claims action through Alderney.

    Good luck.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2011
    WOW what a surprise!
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    WOW what a surprise!
    Posted by elsadog
    TBH I am surprised Alan, but only due to the fact that this is, to my recollection, the first action of any Gaming Commission outside of cashing cheques.

    Is there any precedent to any commissions suspending decent sized businesses?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites : TBH I am surprised Alan, but only due to the fact that this is, to my recollection, the first action of any Gaming Commission outside of cashing cheques. Is there any precedent to any commissions suspending decent sized businesses?
    Posted by TommyD

    They have previously suspended licences for obscure casino rooms. Their preliminary investigation must have found something not to their liking to instigate this action so quickly. I think it says ''of a serious nature'' or similar.

    There may be some cover your backside involved in their actions. Depends on what they've found I suppose.
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited June 2011
    Trying to get confirmation on a rumour, will post it here if I can get it confirmed (probably wait until I get home, hate logging on at work but this was too big).  Sounds really wrong what might be about to happen (sorry for the tease).

    Quickly though, if FTP comes back on and asks you to validate new T & Cs, READ THEM!  And I do mean read them properly.  Again only my opinion but if you do get in, cash out everything immediately and do not pay a penny of rake to them.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited June 2011
    does anyone rekon this will effect stars at all ? my full roll bar like £11 in on stars at present am i adivsed just to get off there now?
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited June 2011
    so u have £12 ub total donald :P
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    does anyone rekon this will effect stars at all ? my full roll bar like £11 in on stars at present am i adivsed just to get off there now?
    Posted by The_Don90
    Still think they are a different case but I would only ever leave as much money on a poker site that I need to.  Poker sites are not banks (then again I don't exactly trust banks 100% either).
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites : Still think they are a different case but I would only ever leave as much money on a poker site that I need to.  Poker sites are not banks (then again I don't exactly trust banks 100% either).
    Posted by TommyD
    tommy when i say my full roll i mean all my poker money. All my "life money" is in my bank account and in my wallet. The roll i have on stars is still technically under-rolled for the games i play. Only because i keep moving up limits afer a couple of small cashes though, $160 i have there for playing anything from $1-$11 tournys. And $3.50-$15 STTs
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  • RogueCellRogueCell
    edited June 2011
    Stars might be next Don.  If I were you I'd get any roll out...
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites : tommy when i say my full roll i mean all my poker money. All my "life money" is in my bank account and in my wallet. The roll i have on stars is still technically under-rolled for the games i play. Only because i keep moving up limits afer a couple of small cashes though, $160 i have there for playing anything from $1-$11 tournys. And $3.50-$15 STTs
    Posted by The_Don90
    Sorry if I sounded a little curt there Don, didn't mean to.  I personally think Stars is fine but I don't want to feel responsible for anyone taking this advice to mean they can leave thousands on there and suddenly boom.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites : tommy when i say my full roll i mean all my poker money. All my "life money" is in my bank account and in my wallet. The roll i have on stars is still technically under-rolled for the games i play. Only because i keep moving up limits afer a couple of small cashes though, $160 i have there for playing anything from $1-$11 tournys. And $3.50-$15 STTs
    Posted by The_Don90
    STOP DOING THIS HENCE WHY YOU GET TILTED ALL THE TIME COS YOU MOVE UP TO QUICKLY

    also flop more sets i here you awesome at that mr luckbox :P
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited June 2011
    ok the rumours are everywhere now so here we go.  Taken from the twitter feed of Marco Valerio @agentmarco, he's the guy growing a beard on quadjacks.com:

    AgentMarco Marco Valerio 
    Source: From inside FTP: site will "re-open" in "a few hours" and "operate without a license," remove Alderney logos, and change T&C.

    AgentMarco Marco Valerio 
    Source pt 2: Without a license, VISA, MC & other payment processors will back out. "NO banks will want to work with an unlicensed company."
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY
    edited June 2011


    Just to clarify.......


    Is my roll still safe on FB?
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    Just to clarify....... Is my roll still safe on FB?
    Posted by MAXALLY
    Yes Maxy but FB reserve the right to use pictures of your FB roll in advertisements your friends might like.
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  • delaney09delaney09
    edited June 2011
    im listening to QJ now a lot of crazy stuff happening FTP are supposedly planning to re open within a couple hours, without license, taking alderney logo of site, and re-evaluating their T&C, also without a license you will still not be able to take money off of there due to money bookers, mastercard, visa etc going to be ditching ftp pretty soon as they have no license so if anything i would just uninstall the client off of your computer and any money you have on there right now forget about and if you get it over time treat it as a freeroll (sorry to sound harsh but its the truth) ftp are going no where but............ down right now
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    Just to clarify....... Is my roll still safe on FB?
    Posted by MAXALLY

    I'll give you the 56p stop worrying ;o)
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2011
    Alderney provide the licence for FT. Poker stars are regulated from the Isle of Man - different regulating bodies. PS seem to have much greater financial substance than FT.

    If the licence to FT has been suspended because of fears over finance or customer deposits then it should not effect PS. However, if it relates to the indictments for money laundering etc. then there could be a knock on effect on PS but it depends on what the detail is.

    Tommy's advice regarding deposits and new T&C's on FT is good. Stand clear would be my advice.
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  • MohicanMohican
    edited June 2011
    Stuck it to the man by going busto on Fulltilt. That'll teach them for getting tricky with people money!!!lol
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  • scouse1515scouse1515
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
      just withdrew  my cash , but  u.s players are blocked at present according to other forums . best advice seems from other forums is,   take your money and run .
    Posted by IRISHROVER
    No chance I've lost my $450 you can't even access the site, have been unable to cash out since black friday.
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited June 2011

    Well the service status on FTP has changed from down for scheduled maintenance to just down for maintenance.  Not news you may ask?  Well it's the nearest we'll get to a statement from FTP for quite a while I would imagine.

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  • pomfrittespomfrittes
    edited July 2011

      Just received an email from a RB company saying this :-


       
        
    We appreciate that many of you have funds trapped on FT and they are in talks with the AGCC to resolve the situation and enable real money play ASAP.
    From what we understand of AGCC rules, player funds should be secure just temporarily inaccessible.
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  • DazlerDazler
    edited July 2011
    just been reading through this forum and something aint right cos i donked off my bankroll last night at about 4.30am 1st june on pokerstars so games are still going on and lobby is regeristing!!!!
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