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Winning a place onto TSP

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  • edited September 2011

    Sky have determined how they will select the TSP members and I'm sure it's based around financial considerations as to how they think they will get a return on their investment. We should be grateful they have a system that in theory gives everyone a chance of being a TSP member.

    Have no doubts about Scotty's commitment to the team and the community. He has put more into the community side of TSP than anyone other than Sky employees. I personally enjoy giving Scotty as much ribbing as possible but the truth is he always has the community in mind and works hard to be involved at all levels of the game. It's true he's a huge fish, but he's a fish committed to the Sky community and for that he deserves his place on TSP. 

  • edited September 2011
    hmmmmm!! Interesting!!

    As one of the first to contribute on this thread, I feel I am able to offer this solution to all questions posed...

    If any TSP players, past & present, and any posters here, Happy ,Unhappy, or just benign & bored, would like to spice up their SkyPoker Experiance, there is a light at the end of the tunnel!!

    Simples....The Sky Team HitSquad is where you need to be, [lol], World Dominance awaits!!

    Just apply to me, or our thread, and all posters here, will be considered, it may be a close call [for some], but as ALL are welcome, am sure I can swing it for you!!!

    I await your responses................

  • edited September 2011
    ps Committment??

    Varies from 1minute/post a week or month, to what ever you feel happy with!!

    Aussie09 is a fine example of being able to mix a bit of forum fun with us, to the succesful serious side which most mere mortals struggle to attain!!

    So help your serious focus, with a little bit of fun??

    Other teams are avaible!!
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    I think maybe alot of people are missing one of the biggest points on this subject. IMO one of skys main priorities with this venture is to bring in new players to the site.  Previously no sky poker hoodies/badges would ever be seen at GUKPT's/ UKIPT's/ deepstacks ect ect... With the results TSP have had... My 4th in manchester GUKPT, Scotty GUKPT final, Waynes SPT win and GUKPT cash, james SPT grand final win, and cash in the deepstack. All the work thewy does, and no doubt others i have missed, it puts sky poker on the map. I and other members have done magazine articles, interviews, the TV shows ect that takes TSP and sky to a wider audience. It is no coincidence the amount of new highstakes 'reg' players that have joined the site over the last few months. Look at the lobby at 9pm every day and every HU table from 100nl to 1knl has 8 regs sat. This wasnt the case 12 months ago, and in my opinion team sky poker playing the big events, speaking to other players and the media coverage is a significant factor in this. I completely agree that it is about community participation, and whenever we play live events, the support from the majority of members of the forum is terrific and we really appreciate it, and it does feel like we are all a team. I know i dont post on the forum as often as i should, but without making excuses, i work 40 hours a week and also have a 20 month old son, which takes up the majority of my time. Whenever i get chance i need to grind 6-12 tables to earn money and rake in the cash for points for live entries. Once i start posting on forums and looking on the internet i lose concentration when multitabling, which obviously is very detrimental to my hourly rate. I would hate to sound harsh, but for the majority of TSP members, poker is their full time occupation and their sole income. They take it very seriously and want to put in the maximum amount of time grinding and earning money so they can pay the bills. And when they arent playing they are probably studying hand histories reviewing sessions or watching training videos themselves. So i can understand why a number of members dont spend alot of time on the forum, because if they did, they would be losing money, and for sum 1 like reds, 30 mins on the forum could mean £2,000. I still after all this time think TSP is a great idea if you take it for what it is. You get out of it what you put in. It gives the micro stakes players the chance to score big in a £1k live tournament, which is every poker players dream? I agree that if you cant rake enough or dont have a huge result then it is hard to stay on the team, but at least it is giving everyone the chance to play a £1k event, and not many people (me included) will fork out a thousand pounds to play a tournament. This is obv just my opinion, hope it makes sense as im super tired. GL at the tables Dan
    Posted by dantb10
    +1
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    hmmmmm!! Interesting!! As one of the first to contribute on this thread, I feel I am able to offer this solution to all questions posed... If any TSP players, past & present, and any posters here, Happy ,Unhappy, or just benign & bored, would like to spice up their SkyPoker Experiance, there is a light at the end of the tunnel!! Simples....The Sky Team HitSquad is where you need to be, [lol], World Dominance awaits!! Just apply to me, or our thread, and all posters here, will be considered, it may be a close call [for some], but as ALL are welcome, am sure I can swing it for you!!! I await your responses................
    Posted by HITMAN_RV


    haha i lol'd

    wp sir
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    All the work thewy does, and no doubt others i have missed, it puts sky poker on the map. I and other members have done magazine articles, interviews, the TV shows ect that takes TSP and sky to a wider audience.
    Posted by dantb10
    i havent seen you do a show yet dan? is there plans to do one in the near future? need tips.

    cheers

    Hursty
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    Sky have determined how they will select the TSP members and I'm sure it's based around financial considerations as to how they think they will get a return on their investment. We should be grateful they have a system that in theory gives everyone a chance of being a TSP member. Have no doubts about Scotty's commitment to the team and the community. He has put more into the community side of TSP than anyone other than Sky employees. I personally enjoy giving Scotty as much ribbing as possible but the truth is he always has the community in mind and works hard to be involved at all levels of the game. It's true he's a huge fish, but he's a fish committed to the Sky community and for that he deserves his place on TSP. 
    Posted by elsadog
    One of Skys greatest strengths is that it has the 'average' player in mind, and I do think that is something that all members of TSP should be involved in too.  I do get PMs/Facebook/Twitter messages from random people asking me poker related stuff and try to offer my advice when I can.

     Also when I do have my tables chat box up you do get a lot of feedback then....although sometimes its quite annoying to have to bite your tounge when people put nonsense like 'oh hes TSP Sky pay him wages and its rigged for him' which is something I've seen A LOT from totally random people.  In fact once I was railing Greghogg in an Open FT, and the first thing I saw in the chat was a number of random railers discussing how bad I was and how I only win cos of luck haha....they've got a point tbh.

    While I realise that everyone has different time pressures, it doesn't take much to start the off thread/comp here and there and its something that is encouraged by Sky to do.

    One benefit from a promo like TSP that is often missed is that when playing live, people at the table will usually strike up a convo about Sky just from seeing the badge.  Something like 'yeah I used to play on Sky years ago, the software tilted me' and I know of a few people who have started using the site again simply cos I agreed with them that it used to be terrible but its got a lot lot better.

    Yes Elsa I'm a massive fish I do need to work on my Sky MTT game I don't understand why I can't win anymore its annoying me greatly! 
  • edited September 2011
    As everyone says, TSP is all about what you put in, if you take it serious and put the time in it will reward you. I will be in the TSP MTT next month and if I make the team I will make sure I play more to earn a decent rake. Its a great opportunity but only if you make it great!
  • edited September 2011
    What actually are (all) the benefits of being on TSP?
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    As everyone says, TSP is all about what you put in, if you take it serious and put the time in it will reward you. I will be in the TSP MTT next month and if I make the team I will make sure I play more to earn a decent rake. Its a great opportunity but only if you make it great!
    Posted by FlashFlush
    Well said Flashy
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP : haha i lol'd wp sir
    Posted by sikas
    LOL!! TY SIR!!

    [so you in Yeah, lol]

    ps. WP Sun nite!! Enjoyed being on ur table!
  • edited September 2011
    Ok!! Serious Point Now!!

    Jist of thread so far is that TSP has been successful, but may need something to freshen it up!!

    Have not looked up facts on this, so please bear with me!!


    From The little i know, TSP is selected quarterly form the Top 30/50[?] finishers in each variation of league I believe!!
    There is a tournament to decide who qualifies, with some sort of handicap system, I have seen before!!


    NOW!! my ignorance of this selection proceedure may be part of problem/soloution!!

    Why you may ask?
    '
    Well I am guessing, that, apart from MTT's these 'end quarter' league tables, have pretty much the same texture at end game, meaning i guess 20 out of 30 players are expected there all the time maybe!!
    Am I wrong??

    I wonder how many Forum Contributors/Regular players, of a reasonble decent skill level will NEVER be in the frame for this oppurtunity due to work/family committments, hence lack of playing hours/ Roll etc!!


    Am asking, not preaching, but for instance how many of The DTD regulars would be in the Frame for a TSP chance??....1/2/6....i don't know!!

    Question for you ALL & Sky...

    How much of an impetus & how very interesting would it be for a forum regular, from a lower level, to take just One[or 2] places in Team Sky for a quarter!!


    What do you think the Buzz would be if there was another qualification method, and a ScouseRed, Elsadog, trip5, Maxally, Monkey123,[DonkmanRV, lol], Eyeman or Acidman qualified??????

     I Think it would be tremendous!! & freshen up the whole idea, could tie in with some coaching ideas too!!


    Hey, just thought i'd float that one!!!!!!
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    Ok!! Serious Point Now!! Jist of thread so far is that TSP has been successful, but may need something to freshen it up!! Have not looked up facts on this, so please bear with me!! From The little i know, TSP is selected quarterly form the Top 30/50[?] finishers in each variation of league I believe!! There is a tournament to decide who qualifies, with some sort of handicap system, I have seen before!! NOW!! my ignorance of this selection proceedure may be part of problem/soloution!! Why you may ask? ' Well I am guessing, that, apart from MTT's these 'end quarter' league tables, have pretty much the same texture at end game, meaning i guess 20 out of 30 players are expected there all the time maybe!! Am I wrong?? I wonder how many Forum Contributors/Regular players, of a reasonble decent skill level will NEVER be in the frame for this oppurtunity due to work/family committments, hence lack of paying hours/ Roll etc!! Am asking, not preaching, but for instance how many of The DTD regulars would be in the Frame for a TSP chance??....1/2/6....i don't know!! Question for you ALL & Sky... How much of an impetus & how very interesting would it be for a forum regular, from a lower level, to take just One[or 2] places in Team Sky for a quarter!! What do you think the Buzz would be if there was another qualification method , and an Elsadog, trip5, Maxally, Monkey123,[donkmanRV, lol], Eyeman or Acidman qualified??????  I Think it would be tremendous!! & freshen up the whole idea, could tie in with some coaching ideas too!! Hey, just thought i'd float that one!!!!!!
    Posted by HITMAN_RV
    Take Elsa out as he always gets in MTT points, put me instead of him ty :)

    Problem being is rake again, i will never get in there as i do not play enough unfortunately but i can understand why this is as it would not make business sense if i got in any other way

    How about i just thought : A wild card for qualification tourney only, so someone like myself, anyone really who does not play enough can be thrown in with 4000 chips and try our luck? how great would that be, but again i dont know how you could get this maybe on DTD standings over 3 months? im open to suggestions on how the wild card is picked
  • edited September 2011
    IGreat Post!!!!!

    I think the Guys in TSP do a great Job as ambassadors they are respectful,insightful, talented and represent the site well!

    Each time they go deep in a tournament their profile brings in new members which equates to more players and consequently more prize money for the site!

    But the forum is the soul of Sky Poker and two forum elected members on TSP. One male one female is an excellent idea!
    I could name over a dozen players who have the necessary game skills,attitude and personality to take the site from great to excellent!
    Incidently most have posted on this thread already.

    So if you're reading this Sky Management let the forum vote for two members of TSP and take the site to the next level!

     Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP : LOL!! TY SIR!! [so you in Yeah, lol] ps. WP Sun nite!! Enjoyed being on ur table!
    Posted by HITMAN_RV
  • edited September 2011
    OOPS
    I was referring to Hitmans post but I do think Young Gun would make a good TSP memberIn Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    IGreat Post!!!!! I think the Guys in TSP do a great Job as ambassadors they are respectful,insightful, talented and represent the site well! Each time they go deep in a tournament their profile brings in new members which equates to more players and consequently more prize money for the site! But the forum is the soul of Sky Poker and two forum elected members on TSP. One male one female is an excellent idea! I could name over a dozen players who have the necessary game skills,attitude and personality to take the site from great to exce
    llent! Incidently most have posted on this thread already. So if you're reading this Sky Management let the forum vote for two members of TSP and take the site to the next level!  Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP :
    Posted by DUNMIDOSH
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    OOPS I was referring to Hitmans post but I do think Young Gun would make a good TSP memberIn Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP :
    Posted by DUNMIDOSH
    lol cheers do you want payment by bacs or stars tranfer lol
  • edited September 2011
    I'll settle for an Avatar lol
    But I was being serious. I think you'd do a good job!

    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP : lol cheers do you want payment by bacs or stars tranfer lol
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
  • edited September 2011

    I don’t think it’s a bad shout what Hitman said. You could have the 30 MTT/Cash and STT players in the trny, but also maybe 3-5 top forum DTD players.

     

    I’ve never played the DTD comps so I don’t know how many runners it gets / how the league table works. But if they had an “Opt in” option at the start of next month and it also ran quarterly like the league, then over 3 months of playing there can be no argument that the top 3 or whatever can have a stab at it. As it is all forum bases then it will really help the community get behind them. I wouldn’t like to see someone get voted in as that is very unfair on some players (Mainly cash) that have spend thousands in rake to get in with a chance for somebody to just get put in because they post a lot.

     

    12 days till the end of the month, so if a lot of people agree then the idea needs to get sent over pretty sharpish!

  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    What actually are (all) the benefits of being on TSP?
    Posted by Trololol
    Good Question!!

    I'd like to know too!!

    So 'Bump' for an expert to answer please!!
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    OOPS I was referring to Hitmans post but I do think Young Gun would make a good TSP memberIn Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP :
    Posted by DUNMIDOSH
    LOL Thanks!!

    I think Young Gun would make a great member too!! [shoulda put u in examples, soz]

    BUT.......Will one of those Sky velcro badges stick to his bare chest 'live'!!
  • edited September 2011
    Here is a link to the TSP Page could help?

    https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby/poker-promotions/team-sky-poker?tracking=pokerpleftnav

    and i agree flash not by vote by a consistent format such as DTD top overall then they get into the 90 MTT for a chance to qualify also it well defo get alot of railers aswell :)
  • edited September 2011
    Can't agree with your comment.

    It shouldn't  matter how big you bankroll!!! we all take part on the site.
    I'm sure however that more income is generated by lower value cash and MTTs than high stakes.
    Yet TSP is currently selected 100% from big bankroll players.
    The suggestion was for two forum selected places. Judged on performance not the number of posts made on the forum.
    If all the smsller players left the site, You wouldn't have a site. So why shouldn't Young Gun, Elsadog, Yidette9, JennyIYY, Trip5. Doh DTW bandit Irish Rover, Scouse Red etc have the opportunity to represent the site they have put a lot of time into making a great site to belong to?  

    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    I don’t think it’s a bad shout what Hitman said. You could have the 30 MTT/Cash and STT players in the trny, but also maybe 3-5 top forum DTD players.   I’ve never played the DTD comps so I don’t know how many runners it gets / how the league table works. But if they had an “Opt in” option at the start of next month and it also ran quarterly like the league, then over 3 months of playing there can be no argument that the top 3 or whatever can have a stab at it. As it is all forum bases then it will really help the community get behind them. I wouldn’t like to see someone get voted in as that is very unfair on some players (Mainly cash) that have spend thousands in rake to get in with a chance for somebody to just get put in because they post a lot.   12 days till the end of the month, so if a lot of people agree then the idea needs to get sent over pretty sharpish!
    Posted by FlashFlush
  • edited September 2011
    i think dunmidosh, it would come down to the money they "could" bring to the site in cashs at the big mtts. i agree if it was down to forumregs playing for sky it would be good for the forum but not expanding sky as a business. no disrespect to any of the names on that list of yours, theres 3 names there that would more than hold there own at those levels and those 3 HAVE the br to play them anyhows!
  • edited September 2011
    I think that using the DTD as a possible route into the final is a great idea. The winner of the monthly DTD then gets a 'wildcard' entry into the TSP Tournie final, meaning that it goes to a 93 runner tournie.  

    Means that (almost) anyone has a shot at getting onto the team as the BIs for a month of DTDs is less than 25 quid.

    Am against any kind of forum voting system tho. It will end up being whoever is most popular/plays in the team with the biggest following etc.
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    i think dunmidosh, it would come down to the money they "could" bring to the site in cashs at the big mtts. i agree if it was down to forumregs playing for sky it would be good for the forum but not expanding sky as a business. no disrespect to any of the names on that list of yours, theres 3 names there that would more than hold there own at those levels and those 3 HAVE the br to play them anyhows!
    Posted by pod1

    Names i used, were just examples of DTD regulars, could have been any 50 names!!

    Great idea Scotty [& others]!!

     No reason why if you have to win TSP place against other competent players [92!!] in a tourney, that top 3/5 DTD players can't be considered, without sounding greedy of course, another idea for SKY consideration!!

    Of course the idea that 30 DTD players get put in, would be considered ridiculous by some, and not, by others lol!! But as a one off!!! hmmmmmmm, that would be interesting!!

    lol, X
  • edited September 2011
    No offence taken
    And yes it is all about expanding business.

    I agree that a recreational players like myself would not be good for business but there are very talented players who contribute regularly to the forum and consistently cash in MTTs who would be good for Sky.

    At the end of the day to increase business you have to raise awareness and that comes from taking down major tournaments wearing the Sky emblem on shirts hats and hoodies and showing character.
    I strongly believe there is talent and character in abundance on the forum to take down those tournaments.

    New business is more likely to happen if people see that you don't just need to be high profile with a big bankroll to make the SPT that you can get there with skill and consistency.

    One or two places for a three month trial is all I would ask. How much would it cost and what harm would it do?
     




    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    i think dunmidosh, it would come down to the money they "could" bring to the site in cashs at the big mtts. i agree if it was down to forumregs playing for sky it would be good for the forum but not expanding sky as a business. no disrespect to any of the names on that list of yours, theres 3 names there that would more than hold there own at those levels and those 3 HAVE the br to play them anyhows!
    Posted by pod1
  • edited September 2011
    is this the last month to try and qualify for tsp? I`ve fell away over the month i`m now down to like 53rd in the league now gutted lol but yeah hitman great idea m8
  • edited September 2011
    i agree dunimdosh, give the chance to a few,my point being the likes of elsa  irish and dohh could if they really wanted to qualify through normal routes surely?
  • edited September 2011
    The standard of play in the DTD is of a surprisingly high standard and whoever wins the monthly league will be of a sufficiently high standard. The possible inclusion of a DTD member in the TSP would be a positive move IMO.

    I don't think that any form of voting someone into a place would be a good idea as it would always be open to suggestions of favouritism. Again any membership of TSP should be based around ability although not necessarily bankroll.







    ...... and Ryan - the fish comment was a joke m8. I can think of at least 4 or 5 other players I would rather have on my table than you in an MTT ;o)
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP:
    No offence taken And yes it is all about expanding business. I agree that a recreational players like myself would not be good for business but there are very talented players who contribute regularly to the forum and consistently cash in MTTs who would be good for Sky. At the end of the day to increase business you have to raise awareness and that comes from taking down major tournaments wearing the Sky emblem on shirts hats and hoodies and showing character. I strongly believe there is talent and character in abundance on the forum to take down those tournaments. New business is more likely to happen if people see that you don't just need to be high profile with a big bankroll to make the SPT that you can get there with skill and consistency. One or two places for a three month trial is all I would ask. How much would it cost and what harm would it do?   In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP :
    Posted by DUNMIDOSH
    They should be able to make it into the MTT top 30 then.

    The cash league is really the only league where just big bankroll/grinders will make the top 30. Most of the STT leaders only play £5 and £10 STT's, and there is a large amount of £5 and £11 MTT's compared to £22+ MTT's so a regular casher should make the top 30.

    It really isn't a case of "Us against them" if a 'regular casher' really is a regular casher then they would be increasing their bankroll and racking up points for the league anyway.

    I do think the DTD winners getting a seat is a good idea but I don't think people should have the mentality "I'll never get a chance" because if your good enough then you have every chance.
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