In Response to Re: i beat the presenter lol : Hand History #449844863 (21:46 14/12/2011) Posted by will48
every one has there oppinions on this and i wasnt out for praise or anything maybe i did play it bad but my point is why did the presenter not re raise offshoot preflop to get value
In Response to Re: i beat the presenter lol : every one has there oppinions on this and i wasnt out for praise or anything maybe i did play it bad but my point is why did the presenter not re raise offshoot preflop to get value Posted by will48
Why ?
Indeed why does orford flat, if orford 3 bets – kinda telegraphs his hand to offshoot -
Frankly flatting here has so many benefits that far outweigh 3 betting versus certain oppo
Does orford know why he is flatting here, that’s the real question !
In Response to Re: i beat the presenter lol : its ok for people like lolufold to play bad and win yeah sarcasm i watch poker tv and see top of the pots and the size of there bets and the rubbish they bet with is unreal am i supposed to sit tight and wait fro aa and then get beat na dont think so lol Posted by will48
In Response to Re: i beat the presenter lol : why ill tell u why rich flatted cause he thought he was gonna get re raised again by another lad that was crazy playin and the lad folded so i called knowing that i was getting a cheap flop if rich plan had worked the crazy dude wuda re raised as he had in previous hands and i wuda folded then it wuda been rich hand for the taking but rich cant take chances withh aa he has to re raise and he never thats why he lost and if he up against jj or qq if he re raises he gonna get more value Posted by will48
but anyway if you can’t see why you would flat in the spot then I think your playing too high a level
likewise 3 betting here would also give the same effect if orford was an aggro 3 bet wide kind of guy – but I am sure he has not got that image tbh so hence the flat
Sorry for thread hijack, but could I have played this hand any differently? Can't help but think I should've paid the big blind instead of sitting out, got dealt 72o, min raised, and flopped a full house. Thoughts?
Wow, clearly an apology is in order for will48... with calls that preflop, he's sure to be raking in the cash.
P.S. Why the big jump in cash levels Will, alot of good players (don't worry I'm not including you in this category lol) float between levels depending on where the value is not as big a gap as from 8NL to 100NL... me thinks you were slightly underrolled to play 100nl, hence the short stacking, and hence the complete lack of understanding of play at this level... or indeed a lack of understanding at 8NL judging by the hand against YG
For the record, the reason I flatcalled Offshoot pre-flop was because I expected then to be going to the flop two-handed and in position with a monster.
As someone else pointed out, the second I re-raise Offshoot I kill the action. I'm sure had Will got out the way pre-flop as he obv should have done I could have won a decent sized pot.
There's definitely a decent argument to say I should have 3 bet pre though.
No offence taken, Will by the way. I realise you're just having a bit of fun.
Amusing thread! For the record, the reason I flatcalled Offshoot pre-flop was because I expected then to be going to the flop two-handed and in position with a monster. As someone else pointed out, the second I re-raise Offshoot I kill the action. I'm sure had Will got out the way pre-flop as he obv should have done I could have won a decent sized pot. There's definitely a decent argument to say I should have 3 bet pre though. No offence taken, Will by the way. I realise you're just having a bit of fun. Posted by RICHORFORD
u defo shuda 3 bet but that just my oppinion and to be honest i dont think your killing the action cause i think off shoot is defo going in with his pocket tens and im out so its your hand for the takin my oppinion no offence m8 but im not takin chances with aa i want to get in my chips and close it down to 1 v 1 and also loads of chips in the pot and for the record i think he would have either flat called your re raise or re raised u again maybe all in
In Response to Re: post removed : u defo shuda 3 bet but that just my oppinion and to be honest i dont think your killing the action cause i think off shoot is defo going in with his pocket tens and im out so its your hand for the takin my oppinion no offence m8 but im not takin chances with aa i want to get in my chips and close it down to 1 v 1 and also loads of chips in the pot and for the record i think he would have either flat called your re raise or re raised u again maybe all in Posted by will48
ONE MORE THING GUYS IS THERE A SET WAY TO PLAY POKER LMAO I THINK NOT
LOL post removed, was a quality thread. noone took offence, unless u did Posted by YOUNG_GUN
WHATS YOUR PROBLEM WITH ME IS IT THE FACT THAT I BEAT YA. THEN YA NEVER HAD THE BALLS TO RELOAD CAUSE AS U SAY YOUR BETTER THAN ME. BUT HOW CAN U BE IF U JUST RUN LOL .U COME ON HERE AND SHOUT YOUR MOUTH ABOUT .BUT WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN YER NO WHERE TO BE SEEN EXCUSE THE PUN
In Response to Re: post removed : WHATS YOUR PROBLEM WITH ME IS IT THE FACT THAT I BEAT YA. THEN YA NEVER HAD THE BALLS TO RELOAD CAUSE AS U SAY YOUR BETTER THAN ME. BUT HOW CAN U BE IF U JUST RUN LOL .U COME ON HERE AND SHOUT YOUR MOUTH ABOUT .BUT WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN YER NO WHERE TO BE SEEN EXCUSE THE PUN Posted by will48
LETS SETTLE THIS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER I THINK SKY SHUD SHOW ME U LAMBERT ORFORD OFFSHOOT AND WHOEVER LIVE ON TV ILL SHOW YA ALL UP LOL
In Response to Re: post removed : WHATS YOUR PROBLEM WITH ME IS IT THE FACT THAT I BEAT YA. THEN YA NEVER HAD THE BALLS TO RELOAD CAUSE AS U SAY YOUR BETTER THAN ME. BUT HOW CAN U BE IF U JUST RUN LOL .U COME ON HERE AND SHOUT YOUR MOUTH ABOUT .BUT WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN YER NO WHERE TO BE SEEN EXCUSE THE PUN Posted by will48
In Response to Re: post removed : LETS SETTLE THIS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER I THINK SKY SHUD SHOW ME U LAMBERT ORFORD OFFSHOOT AND WHOEVER LIVE ON TV ILL SHOW YA ALL UP LOL Posted by will48
In Response to Re: post removed : No, but there's also plays which will lose you money long term, and limp/calling with K3 pre-flop is one of them. Posted by EvilPingu
In Response to Re: post removed : AND NOT 3 BETTING WITH AA IS ONE OF THEM ALSO NO MORE SAID Posted by will48
Not necessarily. In general, if you're an aggressive player, then yes, you should probably be 3 betting with AA most of the time as you'd probably 3 bet with a lot worse and it wouldn't kill the action. However, if you're a tighter player and you 3 bet, then you might as well hold a sign up saying "I have aces or kings, fold".
It all depends on how you are perceived by the rest of the table. As you said yourself:
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Why ?
Indeed why does orford flat, if orford 3 bets – kinda telegraphs his hand to offshoot -
Frankly flatting here has so many benefits that far outweigh 3 betting versus certain oppo
Does orford know why he is flatting here, that’s the real question !
Triple balanced merged polarized range :S
but anyway if you can’t see why you would flat in the spot then I think your playing too high a level
likewise 3 betting here would also give the same effect if orford was an aggro 3 bet wide kind of guy – but I am sure he has not got that image tbh so hence the flat
Lambert its quite obviously Benno is being sarcastic or he wants him to keep making speculative limp/calls
7♠ 7♦ 2♣
K♠
Q♥
7♥ K♦
K♥ J♦
6♦ Q♦
WP sure your going to win loads of monies with this calling
P.S. Why the big jump in cash levels Will, alot of good players (don't worry I'm not including you in this category lol) float between levels depending on where the value is not as big a gap as from 8NL to 100NL... me thinks you were slightly underrolled to play 100nl, hence the short stacking, and hence the complete lack of understanding of play at this level... or indeed a lack of understanding at 8NL judging by the hand against YG
It's almost worth me shooting up the levels and sitting at a 100NL table if he's gonna be there too
It's pretty clear to see that Will played this great, you lot are just jealous, move on and stop bullying him.
Keep it up Will, look forward to playing you soon