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  • scouse_redscouse_red
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER : And also as far as I am led to believe poker sites are only regulated and looked at from the hole cards and the Flop, no further,
    Posted by N1VEK
    might be worth having a look at the OP in another thread CLICK HERE
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  • AMYBRAMYBR
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    so this 1 person would have access to the rng and they would know the cards that they and others have?
    Posted by pod1
    Surely you all know that this issue has already arisen within the industry?

    That this was the UB/AP scandal and was happening?

    That an employee was able to develop software to view all holdings at a table, making an amout of money that makes your $100 a day figure utterly comical?

    Who was caught, never prosecuted, quite the opposite.

    Look up the UB/AP scandals.
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  • grantorinograntorino
    edited February 2012
    of course its possible someone could have access to all holecards

    If they did they would play higher than 10NL I would think
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  • N1VEKN1VEK
    edited February 2012

    You think this is unlikely look at the whole Millie Dowler afair, this site is owned by a man and cohorts that lets people hack into dead girls phones and you want to talk integrity, I believe it to be possible/probable and very likely, I can't imagine it is impossible for an IT specialist to design a programme of this nature, considering Hackers have hacked into the FBI, CIA MI5 etc,etc,etc which have mega incription, please don't be so naive to think it can't be done

    I would love to think that it is totally secure but the simple truth is I don't believe it is and with the amount of posts on here there are more than a few that agree.

    YOU ARE A LOSING PLAYER I HEAR you say, yes I am, but when you get your money in more than 9 times out of ten when in front and lose every time it's not just sickening I believe it to be impossible if the site was Kosher

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  • N1VEKN1VEK
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    of course its possible someone could have access to all holecards If they did they would play higher than 10NL I would think
    Posted by grantorino
    If it was a short term gig yes I agree but in the long term no because as I said before you can just call it bad plays but lucky in small games but can't in Larger games because the standard of play is better and it would be noticed more
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  • AMYBRAMYBR
    edited February 2012
    http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/ultimate-bet-cheating-scandal-statement-released-278230/

    Probably worth taking the time to read Nivek.

    What you are talking about has already happened.

    Some might say it has lead to a more protected industry.
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  • pod1pod1
    edited February 2012
    possible- yes, probable mmm maybe,likely- no!
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  • pod1pod1
    edited February 2012
    you talk about the man who owns sky on minute and yet say its could be an employee without consent of sky. 1  employee would make no dent in this business for sky. which do you think it is, with sky knowledge or without???
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  • N1VEKN1VEK
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    you talk about the man who owns sky on minute and yet say its could be an employee without consent of sky. 1  employee would make no dent in this business for sky. which do you think it is, with sky knowledge or without???
    Posted by pod1
    Your being dogged down by Symantics mate, does it really matter, whether our Mr Murdoch knows or not but one thing is for sure he wouldn't care, I don't believe for one minute HE (Mr Murdoch) is doing it but all i'm trying to say with the stuff that's come out about News Internation it's not beyond the realms of possibility that there are a few sky employees taking a few grand from the site and it being at such a small level in the grand scheme of things, would they care as long as the top people were not in the know or in fact would they want even more scandal if they did
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  • N1VEKN1VEK
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/ultimate-bet-cheating-scandal-statement-released-278230/ Probably worth taking the time to read Nivek . What you are talking about has already happened. Some might say it has lead to a more protected industry.
    Posted by AMYBR
    I have just read the article, quite interesting but what you say in your last sentance is of more interest, "Some might say" Does that not mean that everyone who has got something to say believes enough has been done and don't forget this was 2008, don't you think that 4 years on although software security has got more sophisticated that so have the hackers
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  • AMYBRAMYBR
    edited February 2012
    Got to admit after much debate and conversation on the topic myself over the years, my firm perspective now is that:

    Its the most pointless converstaion that can be had.

    Everyone has the right to their own views/thoughts.

    But Online poker is what it is, it wont change.

    Play, enjoy adapt.

    Or decide that its not to be trusted and walk away.

    It is for each person to decide their own level of intrest and knowledge of the product.  Somplez :p
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  • bigal36903bigal36903
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    bad beats happen guys just get over it. if you wanna see bad beat after bad beat, go and play at pokerstars, its absolutly awfull there if ur all in with poket KK and ur called by any ace (and i mean any ace) you have lost end of story. aces hit the board there 8 times out of ten, thats the reason i eventuallu quit playing there. i came to sky poker and noticed the difference immediatly KK does win here u arent guaranteed an ace on the board all the time. just deal with the times ur running bad and enjoy the game. if u cant do that then quit poker and take up golf or something. good luck at the tables guys stuart
    Posted by xstuart
    unlike poker online, golf has more skill ... bad play is not rewarded by getting it in the hole from stupid impossible angles..

    the skill of golf are much harder to learn than poker...

    if u played you would know this...


    so do not compare a skilled game with a luck box game with a random rng
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  • djblacke04djblacke04
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER : unlike poker online, golf has more skill ... bad play is not rewarded by getting it in the hole from stupid impossible angles.. the skill of golf are much harder to learn than poker... if u played you would know this... so do not compare a skilled game with a luck box game with a random rng
    Posted by bigal36903


    well i could argue that golf, is merely a repetition of the same move and to be truely great at golf you must be able to replicate the perfect swing...then useing your own experience gained through playing the game over and over again,making a decision on the power to hit..

    so in effect i would say that golf is far less skilled a game,than poker,it is merely the ability to replicate hitting the ball...

    so i would expect the golf to get better the more i played.....

    where as some people can play as much poker as possible and still be no better..

    one day al you will accept that the poker world is not against you,everyone suffers at the hands of the SKY rng and indeed the casino dealer rng,the cash game at my house rng and the sky poker luton rng...

    because thats poker.. :)

    not golf. 





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  • bigal36903bigal36903
    edited February 2012
    you do have a point DJ.. 


    practise can make you better at golf and poker..   but if it was an easy game/sport to play then we would all be as good as the pros...   by practice... 


    the same could be said about poker you will say...


    i was refering to the luck part of poker..  the runner runner and rivers... 


    I LIKE SKY POKER..

    but i play golf to a standard far much better than the average person and do not lose to less experienced players even when they get lucky...

    the two games could possibly considered similar in a way, but not to be ridiculed ... 

    as for the luck of golf. there is some luck..  not much as more skill is required.. as u wud say the repetition of golf is the skill besides othr things.. 

    as for bad beats. we all get them and we all learn to live with them... even myself and sporny..

    poker is a never ending game with swings and roundabouts of skill and luck...


    as i stated before i enjoy sky poker for the games and community.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    You think this is unlikely look at the whole Millie Dowler afair, this site is owned by a man and cohorts that lets people hack into dead girls phones and you want to talk integrity, I believe it to be possible/probable and very likely, I can't imagine it is impossible for an IT specialist to design a programme of this nature, considering Hackers have hacked into the FBI, CIA MI5 etc,etc,etc which have mega incription, please don't be so naive to think it can't be done I would love to think that it is totally secure but the simple truth is I don't believe it is and with the amount of posts on here there are more than a few that agree. YOU ARE A LOSING PLAYER I HEAR you say, yes I am, but when you get your money in more than 9 times out of ten when in front and lose every time it's not just sickening I believe it to be impossible if the site was Kosher
    Posted by N1VEK
    A little evidence to support that might help, N1VEK.

    Just post the HH's of 3 or 4 sets of 10 consecutive hands (40 in total) where you lost when you got your "money in good nine times out of 10". It assumes, of course, that you played them competently.

    I look forward to seeing them. 
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  • djblacke04djblacke04
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    You think this is unlikely look at the whole Millie Dowler afair, this site is owned by a man and cohorts that lets people hack into dead girls phones and you want to talk integrity, I believe it to be possible/probable and very likely, I can't imagine it is impossible for an IT specialist to design a programme of this nature, considering Hackers have hacked into the FBI, CIA MI5 etc,etc,etc which have mega incription, please don't be so naive to think it can't be done I would love to think that it is totally secure but the simple truth is I don't believe it is and with the amount of posts on here there are more than a few that agree. YOU ARE A LOSING PLAYER I HEAR you say, yes I am, but when you get your money in more than 9 times out of ten when in front and lose every time it's not just sickening I believe it to be impossible if the site was Kosher
    Posted by N1VEK

    N1VEK         131-$1  $7  -23%-$191  -50SkyPokerx

    131 games...real hardcore gamer you are.. :)

    anyway you know how it works,you trash off the site,everyone makes fun of you...you throwing your toys out the pram,because sky has decided to make an example of you,and put you on doomswitch setting 3,there are three levels ...1 is when you just annoy them and you lose KK all the time,2 is where you annoy them twice and AA loses all the time,3 is when you carry on about a subject that has been discussed a million times before and mention MR M..then all your big hands will be crushed on the river..

    and of course i get a main event win very shortly ...


    :)



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  • N1VEKN1VEK
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER : unlike poker online, golf has more skill ... bad play is not rewarded by getting it in the hole from stupid impossible angles.. the skill of golf are much harder to learn than poker... if u played you would know this... so do not compare a skilled game with a luck box game with a random rng
    Posted by bigal36903

    I do play Golf and to a Handicap of 7
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  • N1VEKN1VEK
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER : N1VEK          131 -$1   $7   -23% -$191   - 50SkyPoker x 131 games...real hardcore gamer you are.. :) anyway you know how it works,you trash off the site,everyone makes fun of you...you throwing your toys out the pram,because sky has decided to make an example of you,and put you on doomswitch setting 3,there are three levels ...1 is when you just annoy them and you lose KK all the time,2 is where you annoy them twice and AA loses all the time,3 is when you carry on about a subject that has been discussed a million times before and mention MR M..then all your big hands will be crushed on the river.. and of course i get a main event win very shortly ... :)
    Posted by djblacke04

    131 games since Boxing day I would consider  not too bad
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  • bigal36903bigal36903
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER : I do play Golf and to a Handicap of 7
    Posted by N1VEK
    then you should know that it take practise to make perfect.. 9 myself..
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  • N1VEKN1VEK
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER : then you should know that it take practise to make perfect.. 9 myself..
    Posted by bigal36903
    I certainly need practice in holding my head up high and smile when that 2 outer comes on the river Yet again or that RUNNER RUNNER
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  • Nuttall07Nuttall07
    edited February 2012
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  • Nuttall07Nuttall07
    edited February 2012
    ok that was an epic fail sorry guys!!!! Basically i had jacks we got it all in after the flop of 8,7,4 rainbow he had 10's turn was a jack for my set :) and the river a 9 for his straight :(. I LOVE SKY XXXXXXX
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  • OopnorthOopnorth
    edited February 2012
    I hate golf, hate watching it, hated playing it, my handicap is that I was useless. I didnt get any better because I didnt practice, it seemed elitist banal and uninteresting. I played poker, I lost money, I practiced, read a few books, listened to a few people worth listening and I got slightly better. No I dont make a lot, I only play for pennies, but I read, I watched and behold, the more I practiced the luckier I got . (yes I stole that line too).

    And FWIW I really dont think posts about a tragic case like Millie Dowlers should in any way be brought up in a poker discussion, let the poor girl and her family have some peace, finally.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited February 2012

    Hi N1VEK,

    How are you getting on with Posting those Hand Histories I mentioned yesterdsy, to back up your claim?

    After all, we don't want folks thinking you made up that stat of "I lose 9 times out of 10 when I get my money in good", do we?
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: SHOULD SKY POKER CHANGE ITS NAME TO SKY JOKER:
    Hi N1VEK, How are you getting on with Posting those Hand Histories I mentioned yesterdsy, to back up your claim? After all, we don't want folks thinking you made up that stat of "I lose 9 times out of 10 when I get my money in good", do we?
    Posted by Tikay10
    lied,embellished,fibbed,falsified,dreamed.

    take your pick :)
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