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Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey [new update]

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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey ***[GUKPT Play Review]***:
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey ***[GUKPT Play Review]*** : Haha, sadly small things tend to have a habit of snowballing on forums. I thought your initial post was more than valid and a lot of the players should be more conscious of what they're typing into the chatbox. Moving swiftly on haha, are you trying to qualify for Nottingham?
    Posted by patwalshh
    To be honest mate i don't know how i would go about doing it.
    Just been concentrating solely on the Dym's recently.
    Sats through Sky?

    Thinking of playing The £150 at DTD Saturday, wife away chance to play
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey ***[GUKPT Play Review]***:
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey ***[GUKPT Play Review]*** : To be honest mate i don't know how i would go about doing it. Just been concentrating solely on the Dym's recently. Sats through Sky? Thinking of playing The £150 at DTD Saturday, wife away chance to play
    Posted by Jac35
    Yeah sat through, just treat it like a DYM. Saturday as in tomorrow? I really want to play the grand prix next week! Might just go
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey ***[GUKPT Play Review]***:
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey ***[GUKPT Play Review]*** : Yeah sat through, just treat it like a DYM. Saturday as in tomorrow? I really want to play the grand prix next week! Might just go
    Posted by patwalshh
    Sent you pm
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012
    I'm back in Bath now, feeling refreshed and ready for the online grind. I've played a fair amount of live poker the last week, with the GUKPT and a couple tournaments at the casino in Torquay, which made a welcome change. When things are going well: live poker > online (mainly because it's more profitable). But for the day to day grind, I'll be an online player for the forseeable future. Will probably play some live cash in London sometime soon. I'll just try to avoid £400 pot flips lol. 

    Results have been pretty poor this month online, but then again so has my volume. I've been playing a fair amount of tournaments on a different site for the 'micro-millions' the last couple days, but they're eating into my DYM volume and I'm yet to bink one of a decent score. So for now, it's back to the DYM grind. 

    Friday the 13th in January I lost like £300, so I just wanted to wrap up a small profit. (Fu Friday the 13th lol)


    Results for today: 25 games, 9.1% Av ROI, +£12.50




    --

    patwalshh





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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012
    (Even more so than expected) My volume month has been dreadful this month. Definitely not helped by the fact my best friend from home invited himself to Bath for the weekend. When you move away, it soon becomes clear who your real friends are and it makes the time with such friends all the better. 

    So on Friday we had a few drinks and went out to a club. Bath is a beautiful city, with an abundance of equally beautiful local women. The only problem is how difficult they are. They really elevate themselves and it makes trying to 'meet' (lol) them so much more difficult. Anyway, come the Saturday, another very good friend of mine decides that he wants to come to Bath too. So we end up starting to drink at 5. By 7, we're all in high spirits. Bath is an unbelievably expensive place to go out on a Saturday night. Every other day is very reasonable, apart from a Saturday. Spirit and a mixer is something along the lines of £6 each. We end up in the same club as the night before because it's the cheapest place - Fail, I know, but we had a great time. To take my mind off poker, and to unwind for a couple days was just what my mentality needed. 

    --

    Today's results were fantastic. How I managed to play 12 tables when I wanted to be sick and could bearly see straight is beyond me, but having an ROI of 26.9% over 43 games under the same conditions, is nothing short of a miracle. Key difference between today and a break even day:

    1) I ran into great hands. For example, player from sb shoves, and I'm in bb with A8ss and call. From their 'shoving range', they could have a number of different hands, A9+, 99+. However, with the blinds high, the same player could also have K8, Q8, 108 and loads of random hands. Today, many of the players had things like 108 when I called with A10, and I held. 

    2) I won the majority vital flips. 

    3) I got hands in the latter stages, when I needed them the most.

    I also min cashed the big HU shuffle tournament for 17/150 something. Built up an above average stack, and 3 bet shoved someone's min raise and then called (fairly deep) with K5 lol, for a huge pot.

    DYM wise: 43 games, 26.9% av ROI +£63.50





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    On a sidenote, I often get people talk to me at the tables after recognising me from this blog. Please feel free to post, and ask any questions. I like to pride myself on being open and honest. The posts I recieve, is what drives me to continue writing this blog, through the good times and the bad.

    --

    All the best

    patwalshh



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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012
    So I finally moved house yesterday. Feels good to be in a place, that has it's own living room! Moving was a pain though, you never realise how much stuff you have, until it comes to moving it. Not to mention trying to relocate a 20kg desktop computer with 2 monitors down 2 flights of stairs, in the back of a car, and into the new house without damaging anything. Thankfully, all went well. Also found out that I passed my first year of Uni which was nice, meams that I don't have to put myself through Summer retakes. 

    Poker wise, the 2 days back have been good, with fruitful results. According to Sharkscope:
    81 games, 7.7% Av ROI & +£58.50




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    patwalshh
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  • devonfish5devonfish5
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey ***[GUKPT Play Review]***:
    So I finally moved house yesterday. Feels good to be in a place, that has it's own living room! Moving was a pain though, you never realise how much stuff you have, until it comes to moving it. Not to mention trying to relocate a 20kg desktop computer with 2 monitors down 2 flights of stairs, in the back of a car, and into the new house without damaging anything. Thankfully, all went well. Also found out that I passed my first year of Uni which was nice, meams that I don't have to put myself through Summer retakes.  Poker wise, the 2 days back have been good, with fruitful results. According to Sharkscope: 81 games, 7.7% Av ROI & +£58.50 -- patwalshh
    Posted by patwalshh
    hi Pat,
    nice results m8....
    well done.
    good wishes for you in your new home too.
    :)
    dev
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey ***[GUKPT Play Review]***:
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey ***[GUKPT Play Review]*** : hi Pat, nice results m8.... well done. good wishes for you in your new home too. :) dev
    Posted by devonfish5
    Ty sir.

    --


    Rungood song of the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqDg24zjsYU (I actually listen to completely the opposite music for the majority of the time I play)

    --

    Another solid day, I'm mixing the £5s with the £10s and the new house is giving me rungood so far. Nothing much else to say. I'm on day 3 of a new workout and diet, which is killing me. It'll be fun to see how long my body takes to adjust, without aching like a 90 year old man.

    According to Sharkscope: 31 games, Av stake £5.97, Av ROI 23.2% +£66.50




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  • JingleMaJingleMa
    edited July 2012

    How fish win, exhibit A:

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    patwalshh Small blind  300.00 300.00 2065.00
    JingleMa Big blind  600.00 900.00 1665.00
     Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    		   
    tond227 Fold     
    ficino All-in  5140.00 6040.00 0.00
    patwalshh All-in  2065.00 8105.00 0.00
    JingleMa All-in  1665.00 9770.00 0.00
    ficino Unmatched bet  2775.00 6995.00 2775.00
    patwalshh Show
    • 10
    • 10
    		   
    JingleMa Show
    • K
    • K
    		   
    ficino Show
    • 9
    • 9
    		   
    Flop
      
    • Q
    • 9
    • 4
    		   
    Turn
      
    • 3
    		   
    River
      
    • 2
    		   
    ficino Win Three 9s 6995.00  9770.00
    I CANNOT BELIEVE I misread the stack sizes - I could see I was 3/4 and assumed u must have been 4/4 cos u called ficino's shove so thought I would call and we could go 2 on 1, uhfuekrgfweurueuhrfuerxxx.

    I hope insanity breaks u!!!
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  • JingleMaJingleMa
    edited July 2012

    Also, could u stop pwning me, ty: (knew i shud hav snapped off ur A here)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    patwalshh Small blind  300.00 300.00 1765.00
    JingleMa Big blind  600.00 900.00 1665.00
     Your hole cards
    • 5
    • 5
    		   
    tond227 Fold     
    phil_o Fold     
    ficino Fold     
    patwalshh Raise  900.00 1800.00 865.00
    JingleMa Fold     
    patwalshh Show
    • 3
    • 9
    		   
    patwalshh Win  1200.00  2065.00
    patwalshh Return  600.00 0.00 2665.00

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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012
    The 1010<99>KK hand was pretty sick. I've honestly done nearly the exact same thing before, and the game ended that hand, I was like yee another win... wait wtf... I lost?!??!

    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey [Includes Backstory/Updates]:
    Also, could u stop pwning me, ty: (knew i shud hav snapped off ur A here) 
    Posted by JingleMa

    I'm peeing myself at the 93 hand right now. I'm folding 55 all day there though. Edit: Didn't see that it's 300/600.
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  • JingleMaJingleMa
    edited July 2012

    Ah, the good ol' 93 - u learn quick!

    IF u had been 4/4 on the 1st hand, I gotta call with KK to go 2 on 1 vs u, rite?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey [Includes Backstory/Updates]:
    Ah, the good ol' 93 - u learn quick! IF u had been 4/4 on the 1st hand, I gotta call with KK to go 2 on 1 vs u, rite?
    Posted by JingleMa
    In game I probably snap, but no idea if it's right or not. OMGggggggg BUBBLE at 300/600 blinds today, I'm sb with like 4.8k, bb has 2.6k and the button has 90, yes 90 chips.... Folds to me and I shove from sb with AQ, and bb tank calls with KK... We all know what the river was..

    --

    Will update tomorrow morning. Been grinding hard. Even played a £22 DYM, which actually gave me food for thought.  
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012

    The previous two days have been fairly average. Once you go on a heater, you have have to expect a slight downswing/period of break even to occur at some point. As I've said, a 4-7%(maybe 8) average ROI is possible on this site playing lower stakes DYMs. Anything above that, and eventually it'll come to an end. I was on something like 14% ROI over my first few hundred games, but sadly, it just isn't sustainable. 

    Played a £22 DYM yesterday (surprisingly not out of tilt either). It was definitely beatable and I felt I had a fairly large edge. Even the REG/s in the game weren't that great. However, there was a lot more min raising, which were getting through a larger % of the time, even at the 50-100 blinds. Also more 3 bet shoving in the latter stages, which is also to be expected. I'm currently playing both the £5s and £10s, but eventually I'd like to play slightly higher during peak hours. I definitely want to play a ton more live cash at some point in the forseeable future. 


    Graph for the previous two days:

    (Interestingly, I've included a profit excluding rake line. Which means how much I would have made if rake wasn't taken out. Rake is seemingly something we have to live with unfortunately.)


    111 games, Av stake £6.52, Av ROI 3.2%, Total profit +£13.60



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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2012
    You've mentioned as few times that you don't think a roi above 8 is realistic long term.
    Why? and what do you class as long term?
     
    I agree standard isn't that much better as you move up a couple of levels
    Still players limp folding every hand and raise folding from 6 bigs

    I'm gradually moving up again myself.
    When i started on here i was mainly playing 10s but found a bit of a comfort zone at 5s

    Interestingly for me my roi at 3s is pretty rubbish, about 4, but is higher at the next 2 levels.
    Trying to work it out i think it's probably due to having to win at showdown far more at the 3's.

    Good luck with moving up, just use sensible game selection.
    Also stay away from me!! I seem to lose every game when at same table as you!
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012
    OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG I wrote out a huge reply and just got deleted by accident...... I want to cry right now.. Will just post hands from today instead..

    Funny hand. Basically on flop I was either massively ahead or massively behind. So decided to let me opponent bet out. On turn, I wanted to induce a raise/spass from my opponent by leading. Got min raised which freaked me out a bit, but I just couldn't see what my opponent would have that's ahead, so easy call. On river snap call and there's no value in raising in my opinion.
    lolster Small blind   £0.15 £0.15 £18.87
    patwalshh Big blind   £0.30 £0.45 £33.96
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 4
    		     
    lolster Call   £0.15 £0.60 £18.72
    patwalshh Raise   £0.90 £1.50 £33.06
    lolster Call   £0.90 £2.40 £17.82
    Flop
       
    • K
    • A
    • 3
    		     
    patwalshh Check        
    lolster Bet   £0.60 £3.00 £17.22
    patwalshh Call   £0.60 £3.60 £32.46
    Turn
       
    • 8
    		     
    patwalshh Bet   £0.90 £4.50 £31.56
    lolster Raise   £1.80 £6.30 £15.42
    patwalshh Call   £0.90 £7.20 £30.66
    River
       
    • A
    		     
    patwalshh Check        
    lolster Bet   £4.80 £12.00 £10.62
    patwalshh Call   £4.80 £16.80 £25.86
    lolster Show
    • A
    • K
    		     
    patwalshh Muck
    • A
    • 4
    		     
    lolster Win Full House, Aces and Kings £15.96   £26.58
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012
    dannyg2030 Small blind   £0.15 £0.15 £20.03
    patwalshh Big blind   £0.30 £0.45 £25.71
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 8
    		     
    dannyg2030 Call   £0.15 £0.60 £19.88
    patwalshh Check        
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 7
    • 6
    		     
    patwalshh Bet   £0.45 £1.05 £25.26
    dannyg2030 Raise   £1.95 £3.00 £17.93
    patwalshh Call   £1.50 £4.50 £23.76
    Turn
       
    • 9
    		     
    patwalshh Check        
    dannyg2030 Bet   £4.50 £9.00 £13.43
    patwalshh All-in   £23.76 £32.76 £0.00
    dannyg2030 All-in   £13.43 £46.19 £0.00
    patwalshh Unmatched bet   £5.83 £40.36 £5.83
    dannyg2030 Show
    • 10
    • 10
    		     
    patwalshh Show
    • 9
    • 8
    		     
    River
       
    • 2
    		     
    dannyg2030 Win Pair of 10s £39.36   £39.36
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012
    patwalshh Small blind   £0.25 £0.25 £48.75
    lovejunky Big blind   £0.50 £0.75 £49.50
      Your hole cards
    • 6
    • K
    		     
    patwalshh Raise   £1.25 £2.00 £47.50
    lovejunky Raise   £5.00 £7.00 £44.50
    patwalshh Call   £4.00 £11.00 £43.50
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 6
    • 4
    		     
    lovejunky Bet   £7.50 £18.50 £37.00
    patwalshh Call   £7.50 £26.00 £36.00
    Turn
       
    • K
    		     
    lovejunky Check        
    patwalshh Bet   £8.50 £34.50 £27.50
    lovejunky Call   £8.50 £43.00 £28.50
    River
       
    • 2
    		     
    lovejunky Check        
    patwalshh Bet   £17.50 £60.50 £10.00
    lovejunky Call   £17.50 £78.00 £11.00
    patwalshh Show
    • 6
    • K
    		     
    lovejunky Muck
    • A
    • 10
    		     
    patwalshh Win Full House, 6s and Kings £77.00   £87.00
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2012
    patwalshh Small blind   £0.25 £0.25 £51.02
    jarraarra Big blind   £0.50 £0.75 £47.25
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    		     
    patwalshh Raise   £1.25 £2.00 £49.77
    jarraarra Raise   £4.00 £6.00 £43.25
    patwalshh Raise   £9.00 £15.00 £40.77
    jarraarra Call   £6.00 £21.00 £37.25
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 3
    • 6
    		     
    jarraarra Check        
    patwalshh Bet   £8.00 £29.00 £32.77
    jarraarra All-in   £37.25 £66.25 £0.00
    patwalshh Call   £29.25 £95.50 £3.52
    patwalshh Show
    • K
    • K
    		     
    jarraarra Show
    • 10
    • 6
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 5
    		     
    River
       
    • 4
    		     
    patwalshh Win Two Pairs, Kings and 3s £94.50   £98.02
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited August 2012
    --

    End of month review:

    July has now finished and for me the month flew by. My first (much needed online break of the month) came with the Gukpt. Day 1 was a great experience (Day 2, not so much) -all in all, I felt that I had a lot to take away and reflect upon from the Gukpt. After busting day 2 (the Saturday) I went out and drowned my sorrows.

    On the Sunday I played a £50 live MTT at my local casino with a ridiculously bad hangover and somehow managed to chop it 4 ways for a cash of £400 (my largest to date). Chop was agreed 4 ways on the bubble because of the standard top heavy payout structure, added to the fact that the loose cannon was to my left with about 65%+ of the chips in play.



    (Pic taken just after chop was agreed. You can see my stack to the right of the moutain of chips (closest to the dealer). Whites are 1k, Green 500, Red 100)
     

    Shortly after, I drove back to Bath and had to move house. Everything had to be moved from a sort of communal building, down 2 flights of stairs, 50 meters to my car. Rinsed and repeated about 19 times. After moving, I did manage to play Poker in the new house for 9 days or so. 

    On the 22nd I drove to Linconshire to stay at a family friends. I had a week long placement at a Financial Advisors planned for the week commencing the 23rd of July. The week flew by and I feel as though I learnt a huge amount in the area of Financial Advising, from mortgages to pensions, to specific investing (bonds, equities etc). The placement was a great experience and finance is definitely an area I'm interested in career wise.  

    After my placement, I made a short stop off at DTD in Nottingham and played in the £100 Grand Prix. I late regged at something like level 7 and quickly busted through 2 buy-ins. It was the sort of tournament I wasn't going to wait around 3 days to min-cash, so I was pushing edges. The two biggest pots were really peculiar and I obviously lost them vs fish #whenwillIlearn. 

    Played online for roughly 12-14 days in July. It started off as a very slow month and I was around B/E after 200 games. Picked up there-after and I was about to get some nice results. Ended the month:

    495 games (down from over 1100 last month), Av stake of £5.99, Av ROI 10.2%, +£349  
      

    Managed to earn just 3168 Poker points in July totalling £44.32.

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    In June I posted a number of goals:

    - Play at least 650 DYMs
    - Play at least 150 £11 DYMs
    - Play 3x 20nl cash sessions
    - 8+ cardio sessions

    I played just 495 DYMs, 95 or so of which were £11 DYMs. I did indeed have at least 3x 20nl cash sessions and 8+ cardio sessions. Nevertheless I owe £20 to a charity and I will post proof of me donating online before the months end. Not entirely sure which one, so if the forum could help me choose I'd be greatful!

    I'll only be playing half the month due to going to the olypics and venturing to America on the 15th for 12 or so days (sadly no vegas or any real drinking as I'm only 19). Nevertheless, I'm aiming for 4500+ poker points! I'd definitely like to make priority club in September.

    --

    I'm sorry for the delayed end of month review, and I wish everyone all the best in August!

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  • thomas87thomas87
    edited July 2012
    Yay pats back :).

    What u been up to mate?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited August 2012
    Half of the July month review is up.

    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey [Includes Backstory/Updates]:
    Yay pats back :). What u been up to mate?
    Posted by thomas87
    Hey man, hope your good. I've been seriously preoccupied with a bunch of things this month. One less reg in the games for you :P Have you been playing at all?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited August 2012
    Second day back on the grind after my prolonged absence. Great results thus far, so nothing really to complain about. Trying to bump the volume up as I'm going to London for the weekend to watch the OLYMPICS! After that, it'll be a flat out grind until I leave for America on the 15th-27th. Me and my dad are seeing my half-brother in North Carolina. No prority club this month. Next month, I really would like to give it a go!

    Sharkscope missed out a few games, so no idea of the exact number played. But 60+ games, +£57.00

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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited August 2012
    Dtd, thoughts?
    Still interested in your thoughts from other post i made.
    Stop slacking!
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  • BUFCBUFC
    edited August 2012
    What events you seeing at the Olympics Pat? You going to hit Fox Poker Club or the Empire whilst your down?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey [Includes Backstory/Updates]:
    What events you seeing at the Olympics Pat? You going to hit Fox Poker Club or the Empire whilst your down?
    Posted by BUFC
    Actually a pretty cool brag, somehow luckboxed 100 meter final tickets. No word of a lie. So it'll be pretty cool. I usually play at the Empire, but I'm not sure if I can afford it after the amount I've spent in the past week. Bills, roulette, 2 buy-ins for grand prix lol. Have you been to both, and if so which do you prefer?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey [Includes Backstory/Updates]:
    You've mentioned as few times that you don't think a roi above 8 is realistic long term. Why? and what do you class as long term?   I agree standard isn't that much better as you move up a couple of levels Still players limp folding every hand and raise folding from 6 bigs I'm gradually moving up again myself. When i started on here i was mainly playing 10s but found a bit of a comfort zone at 5s Interestingly for me my roi at 3s is pretty rubbish, about 4, but is higher at the next 2 levels. Trying to work it out i think it's probably due to having to win at showdown far more at the 3's. Good luck with moving up, just use sensible game selection. Also stay away from me!! I seem to lose every game when at same table as you!
    Posted by Jac35
    I believe that on THIS SITE a winrate of 8% is a maximum for 99.99% of players over a sample size of 1000-1500 games. I base this on a number of different factors:

    Rake - On Skypoker, we're charged a flat rate of 10% for all the DYMs we play. As the majority know, if we were to play 10 games, win 5 and lose 5, we would actually lose money. That means, that to make any profit whatsoever (pre-rakeback), your winrate must be 10.01%+. So, your very respectable winrate of 5%, is actually 15%. 1% is 11% etc (but we ignore this).

    Flips - Over time 'flips' are inevitable in DYMs. For example, QQ vs AK, 22 vs AJss etc. As a rule of thumb, ignoring many factors, players with equal stack sizes should avoid flips. If you had QQ, and was guarenteed to be against AK suited and the winner of the hand cashes, you're only a 3.5% favourite in the hand. Therefore, over time you would lose money because of the rake. Many players are delusional when it comes to hand percentages. For example, ignoring other factors, 98 suited is a favourite over 22. Flips over time, negatively effect your winrate. I avoid as many flips as I can, which I believe increases my winrate. 

    Sadly flips are inevitable, for example during 200/400 blinds, your in the bb with A7 and your active villian on the sb shoves. Your stack sizes are equal at 1200, and there are no other players on low chips. You snap with A7 and your opponent has 89 suited - Your just a 53% favourite in the hand. That means 53/100 you win the hand. Taking into consideration rake, that means your ROI is -3.63% over time. 

    Lineup - If you asked a very respected SNG regular (on a well known site with winnings of $50,000+) of the maximum achievable winrate in DYMs of $9-$17 stakes. The player would answer 4-5% as the absolute maximum. However, I believe that we're blessed on this site. Ultimately we want as many bad players in our games as possible as they increase our winrate. On well known sites, there is often 4 regulars and 2 fish per table, making for very competative games. On Skypoker, at the lower stake DYM tables (£5.50/£11) - there are often 2 'regulars' and 4 very average players. Due to this, I believe a higher winrate is achievable. 

    Number of tables - Players winrates diminish as the number of tables they play increases. I myself play up to 14 tables, and would say that at my peak, this negatively influences my winrate. If I were to 2 table (which I respect is peak for some people), my expected winrate may be substantially higher than it currently is, but my hourly would decrease. Ultimately as 'grinders', we want to maximise our hourly winrate, whilst keeping our sanity. 

    As a conclusion, I would say a semi-accurate sample size is 3,000 games, ideally however 5,000 games+ before you know your true winrate, 25k+ games. The higher your expected ROI, the lower the variance, because your pushing edges others aren't, getting away from losing hands others aren't etc etc. There are numerous players that have a 25,000 game sample size with a 4-5% average ROI, that face 3k+ game break even stretches! Variance is such a massively underestimated variable in poker. So yeah, someone multi-tabling 6+ tables 8%, unless your in the top 0.05% imo. A very good player, with 1-4 tables running and heavily concentrating on them - maybe 10-11%.

    (I just looked at your winrate Jac, and it's very nice. How many tables do you play if you don't mind me asking?)

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    Today, I started off by playing an early afternoon DYM session that went well. Unfortunately between ending that session and this evening, I played £30NL heads up and lost £45 (sigh). Lost against a fish obviously. If I lost the same vs a solid reg I wouldn't care. Luckily I won the 7:20pm £4.40 Heads-up Bounty for £42, which erased the Heads-up deficit.





    Evening DYM sessions were nice. Still running a little over my EV (expected value). Which basically means, that I think I'm winning more 1010 vs AK than I'm losing, dodging more flush draws with sets etc.

    According to Sharkscope (Fairly sure it's accurate) - 55 SNGs played, £6 Average stake, Average ROI 9.1% +£37



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    patwalshh






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  • BUFCBUFC
    edited August 2012
    Nice one. No haven't played either but have been in both. Empire certainly looks a better quality. Went down Chinatown yesterday and it was just so rammed with people stood around taking photos you could barely walk down the pavement!
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey [Includes Backstory/Updates]:
    Nice one. No haven't played either but have been in both. Empire certainly looks a better quality. Went down Chinatown yesterday and it was just so rammed with people stood around taking photos you could barely walk down the pavement!
    Posted by BUFC
    Ahh I've just played Pokers at the Empire, love the place. I hate the casino there though! You have no idea how much I want to post a meme about cameras and chinatown, but I don't particularly want to get a racist ban. Scott, how are you getting all the tickets for the olympics and Darren Brown? Wait, you live in Spalding.......
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey [Includes Backstory/Updates]:
    Dtd, thoughts? Still interested in your thoughts from other post i made. Stop slacking!
    Posted by Jac35
    My thoughts on DTD. I really liked the place, obviously it's great for Poker and the atmosphere was fantastic. I just wish I was a bigger fan of live poker. I can't deal with people trying to talk stratergy (shortly after limp folding utg to a small raise) and the scummy people that think the world owes them something. All in all, it's a lovely club and I can't wait to play there for the SPT Final come September. 
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