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CHELTENHAM FESTIVAL 2013 THREAD
Hi all,
only 39 days to go to the greatest show on turf so please everybody get cracking with antepost fancies in the build up to the festival itself and well see over the decisive 4 days in mid March who got what brilliantly right and what painstakingly wrong.
good luck all and win or lose (or break even) enjoy the weeks racing and enjoy the build up as well!!!
its going to be awesome as always
only 39 days to go to the greatest show on turf so please everybody get cracking with antepost fancies in the build up to the festival itself and well see over the decisive 4 days in mid March who got what brilliantly right and what painstakingly wrong.
good luck all and win or lose (or break even) enjoy the weeks racing and enjoy the build up as well!!!
its going to be awesome as always
Comments
SUPREME NOVICE MY TENT OR YOURS 10/1
CHAMPION HURDLE GRANDOUET 7/1
CENTENARY NOVICE CARLITO BRIGANTE 12/1 (MAY GET IN LIGHTLY AND TOP COURSE FORM)
NEPTUNE NOVICE PONT ALEXANDRE 7/2 AND THEN PONT ALEXANDRE / THE NEW ONE STRAIGHT F/C ON DAY
JEWSON NOVICE AUPCHARLIE CURRENTLY 8/1 (BUT WANT MULLINS TO GIVE HIM CHANCE IN THE RSA)
PERTEMPS KNOCK A HAND 33/1 (DISSAPPOINTED OVER FENCES BUT INTERESTING ON OLD HURDLES FORM)
WORLD HURDLE SMAD PLACE 20/1
ALBERT BARTLETT OUR VINNIE 16/1
GOLD CUP BOBS WORTH 7/2 F NOW BUT WILL BE LIKELY PRICE IF NOT A TAD BIGGER ON DAY
MARTIN PIPE CONDITIONALS KATKEAU 14/1
Out of all of the above the main value lies in Katkeau, given the fact trainer will target the race named in his Father's honour. Can see this going off silly prices on the day, 5/2 or something of that ilk. I wait for most of the handicap weights to be published beofre whittling them down on stats etc but the 3 above handicaps would be my idea of what id be backing regardless so best to get the value early on.
Carlito is former Coral cup winner over the smaller obstacles , he was 'well in' for that and sense same is going to happen here, and has won a course chase this season.
With cape tribulation the latest example, horses whove given chasing a go have a recent decent record in coming back and landing the Pertemps Final over hurdles and itll be interesting to see Knock a Hand do so , all he did was improve last season and racked up a series of consecutive wins and is game, dissappointed over fences thus far so should be given his chance to line up in this
Katkeau travelled like an absolute dream in the fixed brush hurdle on the Hennessey card before suddenly going out like a light, put this memory to 'good use' when having a decent bet at 9/4 on Boxing day in Kemptons finale only for him to do the exact same thing!!!
Shouldnt have been a ground problem as has form back in his native france on the surface so hoping a drop back is what the doctor ordered, Im actually very excited about this horse but deep down fear a case of once bitten twice shy third time ur havin a laugh but with no doubts that the money will come large for him Im certainly willing to chance my arm at what could look a HUGE price in a few fridays time
the 'good irish thing of the week' is a hurdler hailing from the mullins yard but it will be Pont Alexandre and not the former champion hurdler Hurrican Fly taking all the plaudits
i really like the new one as a top prospect and can see these 2 coming well clear of the rest and wouldnt even entertain the thought of taking them on with those at healthier prices, think this markets been priced up absoultely spot on and theyre the 2 to concentrate on imo
our vinnie and smad place should both fair better in their respective 3m races on the forecast better ground if it ever does come,
bobs worth will be unbelivably tough to pass if getting head in front though no real value, just owes me nothing after hennesey and owes me nothing so sticking with him,
grandouet will hopefully get his chance to prove his credentials tihs weekend
while Aupcharlie really really impressed me with his jumping on Lexus day when just being collared by stablemate and short fav on the line but on spring ground rather than the very heavy encountered that day will be even better again
Arkle Chase - Captain Conan & Arvika Ligeonniere @ 12/1 & 10/1
Champion Hurdle - Cinders And Ashes 16/1
RSA Chase - Back In Focus 12/1
Ryanair Chase - Grand Crus & Champion Court @ 20/1 & 10/1
World Hurdle - Smad Place & Monksland @ 20/1 & 7/1
Gold Cup - Sir Des Champs & Long Run @ 5/1 & 7/1
gold cup hunt ball 66 to1,
both ew,
re katkeau, glad theres other confidence behind it, fact that i get 14's on a possible 3/1 or shorter shot means not a damn if he doesnt do the business as im not one to back then aly ill just let it run. will have to include in various perms while theres still alot of juice in the price.
havent had too much of a look at the GN but one who caught the eye before christmas and has impressed me the most was JOIN TOGETHER, though from a superstitious perspective im not sure how likely Mr Nicholls will win the great race 2 years on the trot after a long run of defeats
and wouldnt it just be bloo dy typcial if your welsh national fancy T43 came good in this instead! which is certainly possible. i think if ON HIS OWN jumps around your looking place money at the very very least. easier said than done but at the likely weight youve eluded to it would be hard to see him not finishing in the frame
A horse which might be of intrest is Moyle Park.He won at the Christmas meeting at leopardstown.Was well backed from 20s into 10s on the day.I had a nice win that day at the races.The second has since won.He was recently bought by Willie Mullins for 250k, before the 2nd had won.If going to Cheltenham will be for the Champion bumper.
knock a hand also out tomorrow at newbury, won this last year on the rearranged card, a few pointers to be taken perhaps on chances in the pertemps, i actually am leaning towards Sivola de Sivola in this, but like my big betfair hurdle fancy Claret Cloak id be hoping for the ground to come up on the better side of soft
if they get flemenstar to bowl along in front SDC's jumping will really be put to the fore. think flemenstar will win this with SDC coming ever closer to the line then the bookie chappies will overreact by slashing Peter Caseys stable star to 5/1 for marches showpiece and SDC being lengthend by a point or 2 max before all the money comes in to keep him 5/1 antepost with his supporters claiming the extra 2f at Prestbury park will work in his favour. and they probably will be right!! silvinaco conti can also lay his claims further with more impressive jumping in the denman chase. though he wouldnt be for me round Cheltenham imo
lac fontana 2 lengths behind my tent or yours conqueror Chatterobx at newbury but will no doubt shorten for the triumph regardless. just checked the result so will be interesting to see the race highlights and i say that more that listen to connections as i always tend to take what mr Nicholls says with a slight pinch of salt!
lac fonatana out to 20/1 in places, surely this win by MTOY in the betfair and form tied in with chatterbox who slammed the selection by 2l gives him a better chance than his odds suggest, especially if you look at todays run again he was unlucky in running and although chatterbox won cosily Lac Fontana showed a good turn of foot on the tacky ground up the home straight and left the others behind in his wake
seems apparent that with SDC at top of gold cup market gigginstown will aim their other priced runner at the Ryanair, biggest price 7/1 for latter from 11's and into 11/2 in places, while as big as 16's and drifting for the blue riband
Mr Henderson on ch4 reconfirming finians rainbow does not like the ground and although in good heart needs the run, think a 'bad' run here and im gonna be all over him for the Ryanair hoping the bookies will overreact if the inevitable happens in a few minutes and finishes a far removed 3rd from captain chris and cue card in that order....
over 2m5f in march in better ground expect him to go close in pursuit of a second successive festival win
currently 6's across the board , unsure if hell be pushed out much given trainers comments but well see
FINIANS RAINBOW RYANAIR 16/1
Im on at 11-4 BOG