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why not allow players to win more than one entry to the rebuys via satellites ?
I don't see why you can sat into these tourneys but then if you want to rebuy or add on then you must pay. Why can't Skypoker give some sort of token once the player has won an entry via a satellite which would be for a rebuy or an add on. This would probably encourage more players in to the sats knowing that they can have the chance of a couple of rebuys or an add on.
This is just an idea, it may or may not be viable, but its something worth thinking about Skypoker.
Varity is the spice of life.
I was just starting to play the odd mini, but small buy in bounty hunters are not for me.
2 Bounty Hunters 1 Standard Tournament 1 Rebuy and 1 Deepie a week anyone.
Comments welcome.
Here are the field sizes from the Main and Mini events over the last 7 days;
Wed 193-305 total 498
Thu 511-638 total 1149
Fri 344-383 total 727
Sat 383-596 total 979
Sun 235-411 total 646
Mon 343-586 total 929
Tue 217-586 total 803
So you can see that it's true that the Wednesday Doublestack tournaments were by far the least popular of the week, the Thursday Bounty Hunters being the most popular.
There is an extremely large number of bounty hunter tournaments on sky but thats because the numbers back it up, whether or not you like them or not most people do. I do however think having 3k or even 4k starting stacks would improve things and make them less of a shove fest.
It would appear that most players on sky dont want to play long tournaments. I prefer bigger stacks, longer blind levels etc but on a week night I dont want to be playing until late and thats what you get if you go deep in a longer structured tournament. This is one of the key reasons I am playing on sky rather than pokerstars during the week as tournaments on there will be getting towards 10 hours which doesn't allow much time for sleep!
As NColley said "There are £5.50 freezeouts at 6pm/7pm and 9.05pm people. Granted the guarantees are only like £200 but if people actually started to play them then the 'suits' might think about upping the guarantees."
Tournament schedules will be changed/guarantees upped but only if the numbers increase. Having a guarantee not being met is only good for the players in the short term.
I would be interested to see what the numbers would be like if the 8.30 bh was changed to a freezeout (structure could be the same as the main used to be back in the day). You could have a £2.20 game at the same time or starting at 8.45. Maybe even win both and you get an SPT seat?
Just my thoughts
Good luck to everyone on the tables
Matt
What will happen now? The Thursday numbers will go down slightly as some players move to other nights due to increased choice. The players that don't like BH will move to another site or switch away from the ME & Mini. I suspect that the focus on the ME & the Jackpot will reduce.
It might work but it is a high risk strategy as the FB pages indicate that several regular players are now looking at alternative sites. Ultimately, if SKY make good business decisions, numbers will continue to rise. If they make bad business decisions then numbers will stop rising.
Have to agree with the majority here. Rebuys and BH tournaments are not the way I would have gone.
A mixture of 6 max, short stacks, short blinds and rebuy / BH. All of which leads to players looking to play shove or fold poker with any 2 cards.
for me we are left with shove or fold poker.
6 max site (gets the action going)
3 or 5 min blind levels (need to widen range of starting hands)
short stack start (100 bb after about 15 mins down to 20 bb if you dont play a hand)
BH or rebuy (invites people to play loose)
all i can see is find a hand and shove or dont find a hand and shove and hope to get lucky.
dont get me wrong there is a place for the above. it gets people involved and have a chance to make some money without making the final table. also new players may find this exciting.
but I cant ever see them changeing any of the live major wsop ept main events to this type of format.
have to think about why not so many people enter the deepstack main events.
for my 2 pennyworth wrong day wrong time
Try it on a Friday or sat night when people don’t have work the next day or make the start time earlier so it finishes earlier.
On an extra note try and add a deepstack semi 1 or 2 nights before as well as the normal semi. Having a short stack 3 min blind sat then a short stack 5 min semi into a deepstack dosent make sense.
I NO YOU CANT PLEASE EVERYONE AND YOU DO YOU BEST BUT I HATE THESE CHANGES.
I don't think I have a reputation as a moaner but I am left almost dumbstruck by this decision. Just take a look at GaryQQQ's thread and you already see a noteable lack of variety. Bounty hunters already dominated the MTT schedule and now they, turbo's and rebuys will constitute the entire MTT menu.
I understand the argument that you must give the people what they want and bounty hunters, turbo's and rebuys are Sky's best sellers. However, if you offer no variety, you narrow your customer base and become a manufacturer of a niche product. It's tough to see how a company that wishes to expand into the broader market can do so by narrowing it's product list.
Take the example of McDonalds: I have no doubt that their biggest selling items are "french fries" (which will hence forth be referred to as chips). McDonalds must make alot more money from chips than they make from Big Macs, Quarter Pounders, Milkshakes, etc... Does that mean that McDonalds should only sell chips from now on? Would that make business sense? I would think not.
If you narrow your product range too far, you narrow your customer base. Of course you don't want to keep products that have low profits if you can replace them with something more profitable but if you don't give the people some burgers, they'll soon get fed up of chips. People need to feel as though they have a choice, even if they want chips more often than anything else.
This would seem a very poor business decision. Removing choice and alienating the most loyal of your clientele and reducing the site's appeal to a wider audience.
You can equate it to having two supermarkets near your house: Tesco sells everything you need as well as some things you don't, while Sainsbury's just sells Milk. It's great milk at a really good price but that's all they sell. Nobody will go to Sainsbury's because they'll just get their milk at Tesco and save themselves the bother of going to both.
To make this personal to myself, I now have no interest in playing any of the main events, apart from the Primo. The double-stack and open were also worth playing but as someone without a huge bankroll, I don't want to pay big amounts for a small amount of play. I think that's the biggest problem I have with these tournament changes - You don't get any bang for your buck.
I am disgruntled.
I love the Wednesday Deepstacks and would have been much happier if the night had just been changed to a Friday. I also love other standard MTT's, but being pushed into too many bounty hunters & Re-Buys is just not my cup of tea i'm afraid. I have tried the "Turbo Tuesdays" and many "Bounty Hunters" but the variance in them increases significantly imo.
The blind levels coupled with the existing starting stacks means there is no time to play poker, you are just looking for a spot to shove.
I don't mind a bit of variety and I am happy to play a Bounty hunter or a Turbo once or twice a week just for a bit of variety because I have a choice, but at the moment this new schedule and format has not impressed me at all.
I know these formats are popular on here, and sky poker needs to make money.........supply & demand..........entertain the masses etc etc, but i'm pretty sure this would have got a BIG Thumbs down by any of the Pro Poker Players on many other well known sites.
All we ask is that we are given an equal variety and choice. It's better to have 100 disgruntled customers playing an alternative "Standard MTT" than having those 100 customers not playing a "TurboBountyHunterRe-Buy" or not playing on the site at all, just because a particular format was not to their liking that night.
(This is why filters were invented)
My company supplies Silver & Black "Duct Tape" - The silver one is twice as popular as the black one, however, I wouldn't discontinue the black one otherwise we would also lose the customers that buy some of each.
yours sincerely
A disgruntled Player
I think there has been some excellent posts so far in this thread but I feel giving feedback before any MTT from the new schedule has run would be a bit presumptuous of me bearing in mind I in no way assert myself as knowing how to form a MTT schedule or run a poker room. That's not a dig at anyone in case you misunderstand me, I just think it's somewhat folly to review a change that has happened and will run for the immediate future without playing one of them.
Why not just make every MTT a Bounty Hunter? That's surely the next step. I know they're popular, but surely some variety in the mini events at least would be good (and no not a Rebuy either)
DTD's on Monday night becoming BH's?
TAXI !!!