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The ramblings of a young man (gazza127 diary)

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  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: The ramblings of a young man (gazza127 diary):
    Convo: M /> Hmmm.. that didnt make sense gazza127 /> no it didnt M /> i was talking about your betting nort chelsea M /> why overbet the river and not get paid gazza127 /> me? M /> yes gazza127 /> overbet? gazza127 /> the pot was 7kl gazza127 /> i had 3 gazza127 /> not even close to an overbet M /> rubbish it was a massive overbet gazza127 /> youre kidding right? M /> DID u get paid or not? gazza127 /> haha you are an idiot M /> ? you price a bet to get paid nopt frighten off the opposition gazza127 /> basing it on the fact that she didnt call. M /> so please dont call me an idiot gazza127 /> ok M /> why woould she you went twice you previous bet gazza127 /> cause the pot was twice as much M /> whats the pot got to do with it gazza127 /> please stop gazza127 /> youre embarrassing yourself M /> yopur bet sizing was way over proper poker but it is sky gazza127 /> god. yep you are a poker guru gazza127 /> thanks for enlightening me M /> so why arent you betting another 1600 to get paid or force her to shove M /> GG chelsea gazza127 /> so let me get this straight... i raise smaller and she shoves? that makes sense M /> she will call OR may shove gazza127 />  pipe down chelseaAA /> i hope you beat that idit magic M /> 3200 got u **** all gazza127 /> im the idiot? seriously/ gazza127 /> ? M /> YES U didnt get paid the third street M /> this isnt a who has the biggest D I K competition gazza127 /> she wasnt calling anything clearly she missed her draw or she had QQ M /> she called the 1600 gazza127 /> on the turn M /> so you think overbetting will get you chips do you gazza127 /> it wasnt an overbet idiot M /> ONE LAST TIME.. DID YOU GET PAID M /> IDIOT gazza127 /> you think 1600 is ok on the turn then im going to what bet another 1600 leaving 1400 behind? gazza127 /> seriously? M /> any bet too big which doesnt get paid is TOO BIG gazza127 /> she clearly didnt have a hand M /> look up value betting you re tard gazza127 /> shut up. ive had enough of you dh M /> of course you have.. i make sense and you talk garbage gazza127 /> haha such an idiot M /> the only idiot is the one who didnt get paid Now I know I come off as a dh.  I'm not proud of what I said but I was getting a bit agitated by him tbh.  This is a guy who sits at the table at criticizes everyones play.  He thinks he is a poker god and I wanted to put him in his place.  I shoved with AK then AJ with 10bb later on and he said im such a 'donk shovemonkey idiot' or something like that.  Too bad I ran into AK with AJ.  Would have liked to teach him a lesson in poker. Now come on... lets be honest here... I'm right aren't I?  It wasnt an overbet... and I cant be 'value betting' the river?  If shes got a hand that she'l call 1.6k... shes got a hand that will call 3.5k.  I've got to stick it in on the river especially when I hit the nuts.  It keeps bluffs in too as I was probably doing it regardless of the river (maybe). Be honest here guys... what would you do?
    Posted by gazza127


    Man that arguement was magical. If he says you played it wrong then he's undoubtedly correct and you should listen to him....whoever he is.

    Good to see you back and that you've ignored all the advice on BRM :P 

  • edited June 2013
    Yes Ryan.  Magical is the only word to describe that argument.  Just wonder who it was....

    Want to see how you can convert 2.5 bb at 75/150 blind levels into a 6th place finish in the 2k BH.

    I bet you do.
    __FUBA___ Small blind   75.00 75.00 17830.00
    gazza127 Big blind   150.00 225.00 390.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 2
         
    Jack3010 Fold        
    panda12 Call   150.00 375.00 2172.50
    MachineGun Fold        
    OSPREY812 Fold        
    __FUBA___ Call   75.00 450.00 17755.00
    gazza127 All-in   390.00 840.00 0.00
    panda12 Call   390.00 1230.00 1782.50
    __FUBA___ Call   390.00 1620.00 17365.00
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 5
    • 3
         
    __FUBA___ Check        
    panda12 Check        
    Turn
       
    • 5
         
    __FUBA___ Check        
    panda12 Check        
    River
       
    • 7
         
    __FUBA___ Check        
    panda12 Bet   450.00 2070.00 1332.50
    __FUBA___ Fold        
    panda12 Unmatched bet   450.00 1620.00 1782.50
    gazza127 Show
    • A
    • 2
         
    panda12 Show
    • K
    • 8
         
    gazza127 Win Pair of 5s 1620.00   1620.00
    panda12 Big blind   200.00 200.00 2790.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
         
    MachineGun Fold        
    OSPREY812 Fold        
    __FUBA___ Fold        
    gazza127 All-in   1645.00 1845.00 0.00
    panda12 Call   1445.00 3290.00 1345.00
    panda12 Show
    • A
    • 7
         
    gazza127 Show
    • A
    • Q
         
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • 6
    • 10
         
    Turn
       
    • Q
         
    River
       
    • 3
         
    gazza127 Win Pair of Queens 3290.00   3290.00
    gazza127 Small blind   100.00 100.00 3290.00
    daiw Big blind   200.00 300.00 7935.00
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • A
         
    panda12 Call   200.00 500.00 945.00
    MachineGun Call   200.00 700.00 5515.00
    OSPREY812 Fold        
    __FUBA___ Call   200.00 900.00 20332.50
    gazza127 All-in   3290.00 4190.00 0.00
    daiw Fold        
    panda12 All-in   945.00 5135.00 0.00
    MachineGun Fold        
    __FUBA___ Fold        
    gazza127 Unmatched bet   2245.00 2890.00 2245.00
    gazza127 Show
    • J
    • A
         
    panda12 Show
    • J
    • Q
         
    Flop
       
    • K
    • K
    • 6
         
    Turn
       
    • 7
         
    River
       
    • 5
         
    gazza127 Win Flush to the Ace 2890.00   5135.00
    MachineGun Small blind   200.00 200.00 5442.50
    robbo629 Big blind   400.00 600.00 18395.00
      Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 8
         
    __FUBA___ Call   400.00 1000.00 20008.12
    gazza127 All-in   3235.00 4235.00 0.00
    squeak13 Fold        
    MachineGun Fold        
    robbo629 Fold        
    __FUBA___ Call   2835.00 7070.00 17173.12
    __FUBA___ Show
    • 9
    • J
         
    gazza127 Show
    • 8
    • 8
         
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 5
    • K
         
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    River
       
    • 4
         
    gazza127 Win Two Pairs, Kings and 8s 7070.00   7070.00
    robbo629 Small blind   200.00 200.00 18195.00
    __FUBA___ Big blind   400.00 600.00 16773.12
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • K
         
    gazza127 Raise   800.00 1400.00 6270.00
    squeak13 Fold        
    MachineGun Fold        
    robbo629 Call   600.00 2000.00 17595.00
    __FUBA___ Call   400.00 2400.00 16373.12
    Flop
       
    • K
    • A
    • Q
         
    robbo629 Check        
    __FUBA___ Check        
    gazza127 Bet   1600.00 4000.00 4670.00
    robbo629 Raise   3200.00 7200.00 14395.00
    __FUBA___ Fold        
    gazza127 All-in   4670.00 11870.00 0.00
    robbo629 Call   3070.00 14940.00 11325.00
    robbo629 Show
    • 10
    • A
         
    gazza127 Show
    • Q
    • K
         
    Turn
       
    • 8
         
    River
       
    • 6
         
    gazza127 Win Two Pairs, Kings and Queens 14940.00   14940.00
    Frenchie23 Small blind   300.00 300.00 10287.50
    MachineGun Big blind   600.00 900.00 4642.50
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
         
    robbo629 Fold        
    __FUBA___ Call   600.00 1500.00 15773.12
    gazza127 Raise   1800.00 3300.00 12440.00
    Frenchie23 Fold        
    MachineGun Fold        
    __FUBA___ Call   1200.00 4500.00 14573.12
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • K
    • 5
         
    __FUBA___ Check        
    gazza127 Bet   2250.00 6750.00 10190.00
    __FUBA___ Call   2250.00 9000.00 12323.12
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    __FUBA___ Check        
    gazza127 Check        
    River
       
    • A
         
    __FUBA___ Check        
    gazza127 Bet   1800.00 10800.00 8390.00
    __FUBA___ All-in   12323.12 23123.12 0.00
    gazza127 All-in   8390.00 31513.12 0.00
    __FUBA___ Unmatched bet   2133.12 29380.00 2133.12
    __FUBA___ Show
    • J
    • A
         
    gazza127 Show
    • A
    • Q
         
    gazza127 Win Pair of Aces 29380.00   29380.00
    pokerrange Small blind   300.00 300.00 14745.00
    gazza127 Big blind   600.00 900.00 21437.50
      Your hole cards
    • 2
    • 3
         
    Frenchie23 Fold        
    Youngfrog Call   600.00 1500.00 29585.65
    MachineGun Fold        
    pokerrange Fold        
    gazza127 Check        
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • J
    • A
         
    gazza127 Bet   750.00 2250.00 20687.50
    Youngfrog Call   750.00 3000.00 28835.65
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    gazza127 Bet   1500.00 4500.00 19187.50
    Youngfrog Call   1500.00 6000.00 27335.65
    River
       
    • 5
         
    gazza127 Bet   3000.00 9000.00 16187.50
    Youngfrog Call   3000.00 12000.00 24335.65
    gazza127 Show
    • 2
    • 3
         
    Youngfrog Muck
    • A
    • 9
         
    gazza127 Win Flush to the Ace 12000.00   28187.50
    gazza127 Small blind   1250.00 1250.00 30937.50
    whererustu Big blind   2500.00 3750.00 43643.76
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
         
    spurs_13 Fold        
    _DAC_ Raise   7500.00 11250.00 43015.03
    gazza127 All-in   30937.50 42187.50 0.00
    whererustu Fold        
    _DAC_ Call   24687.50 66875.00 18327.53
    gazza127 Show
    • J
    • J
         
    _DAC_ Show
    • J
    • A
         
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 7
    • 8
         
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    River
       
    • 3
         
    gazza127 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 3s 66875.00   66875.00
    Then I lost half my stack being outkicked by an ace and went out like this:
    Frenchie23 Small blind   1500.00 1500.00 121526.64
    spurs_13 Big blind   3000.00 4500.00 47293.16
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • A
         
    Keithyy Fold        
    robbo629 Fold        
    gazza127 All-in   25875.00 30375.00 0.00
    whererustu Fold        
    Frenchie23 Call   24375.00 54750.00 97151.64
    spurs_13 Fold        
    Frenchie23 Show
    • K
    • Q
         
    gazza127 Show
    • J
    • A
         
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 2
    • 4
         
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    River
       
    • J
         
    Frenchie23 Win Pair of Kings 54750.00   151901.64
    All from 2.5bb.

    Nice.
  • edited June 2013
    Played some cash tonight.  Ended up about 11 quid up on NL10 which I was pretty pleased with as im useless at cash.

    I ended up HU against donttellmum as everyone else had left.  I've hardly ever played against donttellmum let alone HU, but rumour has it he is a decent player.

    I think I got him quite frustrated really.  We barely ever got down to showdown, and after reloading he started open jamming pots.  He showed one as a bluff when I had folded A8s.

    Think i played OK as HU cash plays quite similar to HU tournaments.  Theres a lot of bluffing and semi-bluffing pots and youve got to pick the right spots to extract value.  Made a mess of one pot.  Think I could have stacked him as he was quite obviously bluffing...

    Thoughts on this hand please:

    Should I just call the turn and let him fire again or is this fine?
    gazza127 Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £17.88
    Donttelmum Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £9.80
      Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 7
         
    gazza127 Raise   £0.25 £0.40 £17.63
    Donttelmum Call   £0.20 £0.60 £9.60
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 8
    • 2
         
    Donttelmum Check        
    gazza127 Bet   £0.30 £0.90 £17.33
    Donttelmum Raise   £1.20 £2.10 £8.40
    gazza127 Call   £0.90 £3.00 £16.43
    Turn
       
    • 10
         
    Donttelmum Bet   £2.25 £5.25 £6.15
    gazza127 Raise   £9.75 £15.00 £6.68
    Donttelmum Fold        
    gazza127 Muck        
    gazza127 Win   £6.93   £13.61
    gazza127 Return   £7.50 £0.57 £21.11
  • edited June 2013
    A board of 8 8 2, heads up against an aggro player. We should just flat the turn all day long, there is nothing to protect against and we have position so we can give him the chance to fire again on the river. 

    Another reason why I'd flat is because his line looks like total air. He's only called the raise pre, so can generally rule out premium made hands. Flop is 8 8 2. We have an 8. How has he connected to that flop? In the unlikely event he has 22 or a better 8 then all the money will go in and nh gg etc etc but I'd certainly look to give him the chance to hang himself. His bet sizing looks like he might have set himself up for an all in on the river too if you call the turn, as he'll have just less than a pot sized bet behind and I think DTM has the minerals to triple barrel 3 streets with air :)
  • edited June 2013
    Something i've been trying really hard to do is cut out silly calls because im holding a premium hand.  Some people cant lay down AA or KK....  and i'm usually guilty of over-repping them post flop.

    However.... i'm uber proud of this lay down.  A few months ago i'd be snapping this off then tilting cause my KK didnt hold.
    gazza127 Small blind   40.00 40.00 7595.00
    ANY_2 Big blind   80.00 120.00 2410.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
         
    MIM Fold        
    stefros Raise   160.00 280.00 4005.00
    PiAnOpLaYa Fold        
    tanna83 Call   160.00 440.00 5140.00
    gazza127 Raise   360.00 800.00 7235.00
    ANY_2 Fold        
    stefros Call   240.00 1040.00 3765.00
    tanna83 Call   240.00 1280.00 4900.00
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 5
    • 8
         
    gazza127 Bet   640.00 1920.00 6595.00
    stefros Call   640.00 2560.00 3125.00
    tanna83 All-in   4900.00 7460.00 0.00
    gazza127 Fold        
    stefros All-in   3125.00 10585.00 0.00
    tanna83 Unmatched bet   1135.00 9450.00 1135.00
    stefros Show
    • 7
    • 6
         
    tanna83 Show
    • J
    • J
         
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    River
       
    • 2
         
    stefros Win Straight to the 8 9450.00   9450.00


    Cutting out some leaks!
  • edited June 2013
    Im so irritated.

    SO irritated... not sure ive ever been this annoyed about poker before.

    Playing £1000 BH.  All going well.... im one of the chip leaders and even have a few bounties.... then this happens.
    offee1878 Small blind   150.00 150.00 5384.50
    gazza127 Big blind   300.00 450.00 9006.25
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
         
    zandan25 Fold        
    ryan83 Fold        
    didalo Fold        
    toffee1878 All-in   5384.50 5834.50 0.00
    gazza127 Call   5234.50 11069.00 3771.75
    toffee1878 Show
    • 6
    • Q
         
    gazza127 Show
    • K
    • A
         
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • 3
    • 3
         
    Turn
       
    • Q
         
    River
       
    • 8
         
    toffee1878 Win Two Pairs, Queens and 3s 11069.00   11069.00
    Followed quickly by this.
    zandan25 Small blind   200.00 200.00 6950.00
    ryan83 Big blind   400.00 600.00 4156.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 7
         
    didalo Fold        
    toffee1878 Raise   800.00 1400.00 10869.00
    gazza127 All-in   2971.75 4371.75 0.00
    zandan25 Fold        
    ryan83 Fold        
    toffee1878 Call   2171.75 6543.50 8697.25
    toffee1878 Show
    • K
    • 9
         
    gazza127 Show
    • A
    • 7
         
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 3
    • K
         
    Turn
       
    • Q
         
    River
       
    • 2
         
    toffee1878 Win Pair of Kings 6543.50   15240.75
    ARRRGGGHHHH...  So irritated.
  • edited June 2013
    Right im stopping tonight and will quickly move onto watch copious amounts of the US office.

    Its not going right for me today...  it's been pretty tragic.

    Cant work out if this is bad play or not in the 12:30 BH.

    Obviously if i flat here then I can get away on the river... but with 2 oppos in the hand  i figure 1... or maybe even both are on healthy draws and i've got to raise....  Min raise makes no sense here leaving so little behind.  Shove, call or fold but why would i call flop to then see a perfect turn card and fold?  Obv I cant put anyone on a set... no raise pre so its highly unlikely.  I was praying for him to turn over 109.... but i guess that beats me in the end too.

    Bad play or just unavoidable?
    ANNMARIE Small blind   20.00 20.00 1377.50
    micky143 Big blind   40.00 60.00 6195.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 4
         
    skyriver21 Call   40.00 100.00 2005.00
    dudsnsud03 Call   40.00 140.00 2770.00
    gazza127 Call   40.00 180.00 2710.00
    sjm89 Call   40.00 220.00 812.50
    ANNMARIE Call   20.00 240.00 1357.50
    micky143 Check        
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 9
    • A
         
    ANNMARIE Check        
    micky143 Bet   180.00 420.00 6015.00
    skyriver21 Call   180.00 600.00 1825.00
    dudsnsud03 Call   180.00 780.00 2590.00
    gazza127 Call   180.00 960.00 2530.00
    sjm89 Fold        
    ANNMARIE Fold        
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    micky143 Bet   480.00 1440.00 5535.00
    skyriver21 Call   480.00 1920.00 1345.00
    dudsnsud03 Fold        
    gazza127 All-in   2530.00 4450.00 0.00
    micky143 All-in   5535.00 9985.00 0.00
    skyriver21 Fold        
    micky143 Unmatched bet   3485.00 6500.00 3485.00
    micky143 Show
    • A
    • 9
         
    gazza127 Show
    • A
    • 4
         
    River
       
    • 9
         
    micky143 Win Full House, 9s and Aces 6500.00   9985.00
  • edited June 2013
    Up and down... up and down.  Its the same old story.  Still hovering around my second deposit.

    I was pretty irritated last night.... mainly with the post I posted 2 above this, but forgot about it today and got on with it...

    First tournament of the day I entered I went out 4th hand.  I had JJ.  Board was 78102 when the money came in.  I three bet pre in the blinds so the pot was already quite infated.  He had flatted KK back in position and I was a gonna after flopping a gut shot and overpair.  Guess its just how it goes... Maybe I could have played it more passively.

    Either way... second tournament I entered was the £350 BH.  Things went much better.  I ran 77 into KK (KK was shortstack) and turned a straight.  Went through the tournament pretty solidly, accumulating chips at quite a nice rate.  I managed to halve my stack in a silly bluff.  He was raising my BB almost every orbit and I got fed up of it and thought id take the initiative.

    It backfired.
    Maxk29 Small blind   400.00 400.00 23655.00
    gazza127 Big blind   800.00 1200.00 15787.50
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 5
         
    blackopscr Raise   1600.00 2800.00 18400.00
    Maxk29 Fold        
    gazza127 Raise   2400.00 5200.00 13387.50
    blackopscr Call   1600.00 6800.00 16800.00
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 5
    • 8
         
    gazza127 Bet   3400.00 10200.00 9987.50
    blackopscr Raise   6800.00 17000.00 10000.00
    gazza127 Fold        
    blackopscr Muck        
    blackopscr Win   13600.00   23600.00
    blackopscr Return   3400.00 0.00 27000.00
    It was OK though cause the very next hands were these...
    gazza127 Small blind   400.00 400.00 9587.50
    blackopscr Big blind   800.00 1200.00 26200.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 6
         
    Maxk29 Fold        
    gazza127 All-in   9587.50 10787.50 0.00
    blackopscr Call   9187.50 19975.00 17012.50
    gazza127 Show
    • A
    • 6
         
    blackopscr Show
    • K
    • Q
         
    Flop
       
    • J
    • 9
    • 5
         
    Turn
       
    • 2
         
    River
       
    • 2
         
    gazza127 Win Pair of 2s 19975.00   19975.00
    blackopscr Small blind   500.00 500.00 16512.50
    Maxk29 Big blind   1000.00 1500.00 22655.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 5
         
    gazza127 Raise   2000.00 3500.00 17975.00
    blackopscr Call   1500.00 5000.00 15012.50
    Maxk29 Fold        
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 5
    • 5
         
    blackopscr Bet   1000.00 6000.00 14012.50
    gazza127 Call   1000.00 7000.00 16975.00
    Turn
       
    • 9
         
    blackopscr Bet   1000.00 8000.00 13012.50
    gazza127 Raise   2000.00 10000.00 14975.00
    blackopscr Call   1000.00 11000.00 12012.50
    River
       
    • K
         
    blackopscr Check        
    gazza127 Bet   3000.00 14000.00 11975.00
    blackopscr Fold        
    gazza127 Muck        
    gazza127 Win   11000.00   22975.00
    gazza127 Return   3000.00 0.00 25975.00
    Not sure I could have gotten more value from the hand above or not.... maybe raise flop.  Tried to milk it a bit too much though...  Reckon he was on a straight draw.

    Anyway I get to the final three and Diva's connection has gone so its effectively heads up, and this was the hand that effectively won it.
    gazza127 Small blind   1000.00 1000.00 104322.50
    Diva34 Big blind   2000.00 3000.00 13287.50
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 8
         
    stoker15 Call   2000.00 5000.00 41390.00
    gazza127 Raise   3000.00 8000.00 101322.50
    Diva34 Fold        
    stoker15 Call   2000.00 10000.00 39390.00
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • Q
    • 9
         
    gazza127 Bet   5000.00 15000.00 96322.50
    stoker15 Call   5000.00 20000.00 34390.00
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    gazza127 Bet   12000.00 32000.00 84322.50
    stoker15 All-in   34390.00 66390.00 0.00
    gazza127 Call   22390.00 88780.00 61932.50
    gazza127 Show
    • 10
    • 8
         
    stoker15 Show
    • 9
    • A
         
    River
       
    • A
         
    gazza127 Win Straight to the 10 88780.00   150712.50
    So two tournaments so far today.  Last and first... much better than 2 min cashes.

    Lets hope for another win later.


  • edited June 2013
    Just finished 3rd in the midnight tournament.

    Now i know I should be relatively happy with this but im not.... but i'll get to that.

    I started the tournament uber strong.... now I know it may sound arrogant or whatever but I was put on a table where I knew I was better than everyone else - unlikely I know but very true!

    Everyone limped into everypot.  I could raise 6x pre and still get 2 or 3 callers, and they all called into their draws.  I could read them like a book.  It was good because I could get max value from every hand and knew when to bluff.  After the first hour I had 5x my stack and was sitting comfortably in 1st place.

    Then I got moved.

    Really struggled adapting to the new table having had it so easy for the first hour or so... getting 3 bet felt uber weird and I had to tighten massively as I didnt know everyones game.  I was up and down for the next hour or so but made it into the cash (final 6).

    Managed to swing myself a big pot when the chip leader tried to bluff me when I was holding TPTK.. and I was sitting up top along this guy for a good half an hour.

    Now this is why im not happy... when there were 4 of us left.  Me and this other guy were chip leaders and the other two each had about 10bb each.  I was happy to put pressure on them when needed and wait for them to dwindle in chips so I could knock them out.

    The other guy however just looooooved to see a flop and looooooved to bluff.  He doubled up the other two players twice... each.... And suddenly we were all even.

    I just dont know why he wasnt more patient.  I was 100% certain we'd both be heads up but I got caught and suddenly had to start winning a few pots here and there when I didnt really want to get involved.  Couple that with some loose players that will call your 2.5bb raise with AK with whatever they were holding to little hesistation in jamming a 4910 rainbow flop.  Suddenly I was 4/4 and pretty irritated.

    Another guy bust missing his draw and I was left with 10bb.  The guy who was shortest with 4 players left suddenly had 40bb.  I jammed my KJs in a limped pot and he called with Q10os quite happily.  He turned a Q.

    Really disapointed as there was close to 200 quid up top and I was certain with 4 left that I'd be crushing the other chip leader heads up.

    Sigh.  Thats poker.

    For those that read this (if any) you may be wondering why I dont post a BR... Its because I feel like I put too much pressure on the money (winning or losing) if I post on here.  I should just be focussing on playing good poker and hopefully the BR will take care of itself.
  • edited June 2013
    Is this just a horrible bluff?
    gazza127 Small blind   30.00 30.00 4120.00
    PREDITOR Big blind   60.00 90.00 1625.00
    t1poollfc Sit out        
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • Q
         
    lsjj84 Fold        
    meerkat14 Call   60.00 150.00 6775.00
    erchie Fold        
    gazza127 Call   30.00 180.00 4090.00
    PREDITOR Check        
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • 2
    • 7
         
    gazza127 Check        
    PREDITOR Check        
    meerkat14 Bet   60.00 240.00 6715.00
    gazza127 Raise   210.00 450.00 3880.00
    PREDITOR Fold        
    meerkat14 Call   150.00 600.00 6565.00
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    gazza127 Bet   300.00 900.00 3580.00
    meerkat14 Call   300.00 1200.00 6265.00
    River
       
    • 2
         
    gazza127 Bet   600.00 1800.00 2980.00
    meerkat14 Call   600.00 2400.00 5665.00
    gazza127 Show
    • 10
    • Q
         
    meerkat14 Show
    • J
    • J
         
    meerkat14 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 7s 2400.00   8065.00
    Villain really thought about it on the turn and river but decided to call me down.  Hes seen me bet into draws.  I raise the flop as I reckon its hit almost 0 of his range... He calls which gets me a bit ponderous.  Then the ace of diamonds comes which is just an epic card to barrel... as ive hit my draw if i was betting into it and was still ahead if I had a 7.  Again he flats.... which made me ponder about what he had... maybe he had a semi decent ace pre and want to see a river as again no raise.  2 comes down.  If I was playing just a 2... ive hit a fullhouse... if i was playing a 7 ive got a full house... if i was playing the ace ive hit higher two pair... if i was playing the draw ive hit the flush.

    Then he flips over JJ.  Is this a case of villain just being reluctant to fold a high PP or was this just a poor spot to try and take a measly pot?

  • edited June 2013
    He limps in, so his range is pretty much any 2 cards. He could've smashed this flop, he could've totally bricked, we really have no idea either way. This is why I'm not big fan of this bluff, I have to say. The pot is too small, with no aggression pre we have zero idea on his range, we are out of position; nothing is working in our favour.

    We are playing 4k, is it worth trying to pinch a 240 chip limped pot? 
  • edited June 2013
    well no lol.... but look at what he limped in with.  I was playing with two oppos whod limp in with very strong hands... but because I got no raises at any point in the hand (youd think that he he had a 7 hed raise the flop again... or hed raise the turn if he hit the flush).  I couldnt put him on any hand that should be calling me on the end....  and in reality I think a lot of players find a fold with JJ on the turn or river... I even think a lot of players find a fold with an ace... but perhaps I should be betting closer to 800 on the end...

    Id created a believable story from the flop onwards and because I bluffed the flop its now a 600 pot by the turn which is quite sizeable... I guess I thought i could steal it off him.
  • edited June 2013
    I dunno! haha... His hand is totally underrepped by just limping. 7 2 7 flop with 2 diamonds.... You could have a stray 7. You could have 2 diamonds. You could have an airball. If he puts you on the latter he'll call you down almost regardless of the runout. I don't think villain needs to raise here as he keeps in your bluffs/limits the damage if his JJ is beat. 

    If you have 2 oppo's who limp in with monsters, is that not even more a reason not to bluff limped pots? 

    If you had a young tournament apprentice, and he/she came to you looking for advice and said, ''is it wise to be bluffing out of position, in a limped pot, vs oppo's who you know limp strong hands'', what would you say to them?



    PS: I could be that young(ahem) tournament apprentice :)
  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: The ramblings of a young man (gazza127 diary):
    I dunno! haha... His hand is totally underrepped by just limping. 7 2 7 flop with 2 diamonds.... You could have a stray 7. You could have 2 diamonds. You could have an airball. If he puts you on the latter he'll call you down almost regardless of the runout. I don't think villain needs to raise here as he keeps in your bluffs/limits the damage if his JJ is beat.  If you have 2 oppo's who limp in with monsters, is that not even more a reason not to bluff limped pots?  If you had a young tournament apprentice, and he/she came to you looking for advice and said, ''is it wise to be bluffing out of position, in a limped pot, vs oppo's who you know limp strong hands'', what would you say to them? PS: I could be that young(ahem) tournament apprentice :)
    Posted by hhyftrftdr

    Fair point.  Dont get involved in pots you dont need to.  Bluffing is almost always going to catch up with you unless you have such a tight table image.... but on sky things like that dont matter...

    Apprentice! Pah.  Youre giving me advice!






  • edited June 2013
    58th in main
    49th in mini

    Dissapointed.

    Shoved A10 into AA and AJ into AQ.

    Had about 15 bigs in each hand so maybe i could have waited for a PP... but in both situations there was only 1 to act behind me and i thought id take a punt.

    Hate this game sometimes.
  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: The ramblings of a young man (gazza127 diary):
    Is this just a horrible bluff? 


    I a word...yes.

    Firstly we have nothing invested in the pot in the first place, check fold. The 240 in the pot makes no real difference to your stack at this stage, instead you ended up doing 1100 (1/4 quarter of your stack) for no real reason.

    Done it many times myself, you think no way has he hit that flop so raise then feel obliged to keep barrelling. Definitely have to give up on the river as there's no way he's folding once he called the turn,he prob isn't going to fold any PP that he has limped with. 

    I'd listen to your apprentice...''is it wise to be bluffing out of position, in a limped pot, vs oppo's who you know limp strong hands''

  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: The ramblings of a young man (gazza127 diary):
    In Response to Re: The ramblings of a young man (gazza127 diary) :
    Is this just a horrible bluff?  I a word...yes. Firstly we have nothing invested in the pot in the first place, check fold. The 240 in the pot makes no real difference to your stack at this stage, instead you ended up doing 1100 (1/4 quarter of your stack) for no real reason. Done it many times myself, you think no way has he hit that flop so raise then feel obliged to keep barrelling. Definitely have to give up on the river as there's no way he's folding once he called the turn,he prob isn't going to fold any PP that he has limped with.  I'd listen to your apprentice... ''is it wise to be bluffing out of position, in a limped pot, vs oppo's who you know limp strong hands''
    Posted by ryan83
    No sir

    :(
  • edited June 2013
    Gazza! Turn that frown upside down. Your apprentice doesn't want to see you sad :(
  • edited June 2013
    Turning this frown upside down depends what happens in the midnight and 12:30 tournaments!

    Still in both...
  • edited June 2013
    Question.... too tight?
    Pedrom9 Small blind   75.00 75.00 7077.50
    TIMBER Big blind   150.00 225.00 10150.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
         
    badtaste01 Fold        
    MADPATDOTC Call   150.00 375.00 8881.25
    gazza127 Raise   450.00 825.00 5575.00
    Pedrom9 Call   375.00 1200.00 6702.50
    TIMBER Fold        
    MADPATDOTC Call   300.00 1500.00 8581.25
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • J
    • K
         
    Pedrom9 Bet   1500.00 3000.00 5202.50
    MADPATDOTC Call   1500.00 4500.00 7081.25
    gazza127 Fold      
  • edited June 2013
    Right... no turning that frown upside down.

    Midnight tournament.  11 left... im sitting 3rd then this dh does this.
    ctbn Small blind   125.00 125.00 5622.50
    gazza127 Big blind   250.00 375.00 9241.88
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
         
    wi03 Fold        
    tinytellah Fold        
    GCSE12 All-in   3403.75 3778.75 0.00
    stanlop Call   3403.75 7182.50 5872.49
    ctbn Fold        
    gazza127 All-in   9241.88 16424.38 0.00
    stanlop All-in   5872.49 22296.87 0.00
    gazza127 Unmatched bet   215.64 22081.23 215.64
    gazza127 Show
    • K
    • K
         
    GCSE12 Show
    • 6
    • A
         
    stanlop Show
    • A
    • 8
         
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 10
    • 8
         
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    River
       
    • 4
         
    stanlop Win Three 8s 22081.23   22081.23

    He did it earlier as well with pocket 7s and I clawed my way back into it.

    ITS NOT A FREAKING BOUNTY HUNTER.

    ARGH.
  • edited June 2013
    OMG that is ridiculous, id scream too BUT ..... yea he called off 23bb with A8 suited, was bad for you this time but wow if he does that everytime you will be fine, remember you always want to get it all in just like that so dont need to be upset with him and call him a DH yaknow? Blame the dealer lol
  • edited June 2013
    Yeah I can't lie... I'm pretty irritated.  What made it worse is that he didnt even think about it.  Snap call as if he had the absolute nuts.  He saw me earlier on doing something EXACTLY like this with AK suited and he snap called another 30bb for his tournament life with 77 when he's only commited 6bb to the pot.  EURGH.  He folds there like he should and im chip leader with no worries.... or even better he calls but doesnt get lucky... then im really storming away with it.

    Just went out in the 12:30.

    Came 5th.  Got about 40 quid including bounties.  Was short stack on final table and shortly after a double up I turned top two pair... too bad he had turned the straight.  Still think I could have gotten away from it but I was short stack and needed another du to have a shot and too much was already invested to fold top two.

    Its the story of this diary so far... yes i've had a couple of wins here and there but the main theme has been me running deep in tournaments then losing a flip or just getting coolered.  I cant seem to get into the serious money at the minute.  I noticed one or two errors tonight.  One may have been folding the aces.  If I shove there like I was thinking pedrom definitely calls and I beat him.  If madpat decides to come along too I lose as he turned and rivered a fullhouse...  So I could have gone out earlier but also could have DU.... we'll never know.

    Too many min cashes for my liking.  Got to sort this out somehow.
  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: The ramblings of a young man (gazza127 diary):
    Question.... too tight? Pedrom9 Small blind   75.00 75.00 7077.50 TIMBER Big blind   150.00 225.00 10150.00   Your hole cards A A       badtaste01 Fold         MADPATDOTC Call   150.00 375.00 8881.25 gazza127 Raise   450.00 825.00 5575.00 Pedrom9 Call   375.00 1200.00 6702.50 TIMBER Fold         MADPATDOTC Call   300.00 1500.00 8581.25 Flop     3 J K       Pedrom9 Bet   1500.00 3000.00 5202.50 MADPATDOTC Call   1500.00 4500.00 7081.25 gazza127 Fold      
    Posted by gazza127
    too tight - too many draws could be betting that you are ahead of, and ped could have AK
  • edited June 2013
    Hi Geldy,

    Its obviously a shove or fold situation... but if pedrom comes along after the shove its likely madpat will too as hes priced in with a lot of draws.

    I cant put pedrom on AK as there would 100% be a reraise pre.  Could get KJ out my mind... and then after mappat called the pot bet i got a real headache.

    The donk pot bet and then call just reaked of strength but im aware that maybe I should have stuck the lot in and taken my chances to double or even triple up.
  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: The ramblings of a young man (gazza127 diary):
    Hi Geldy, Its obviously a shove or fold situation... but if pedrom comes along after the shove its likely madpat will too as hes priced in with a lot of draws. I cant put pedrom on AK as there would 100% be a reraise pre. 
    Posted by gazza127
    not sure - oop AK could flat to take a flop - hits his K and wants to take it down there and then given the wet board.
    vs KJ you have redraws
    vs draws you are ahead
    agreed it could go 3-way - but "what the h*ll" imho
  • edited June 2013
    I might raise AA a tad more. It's a beautiful spot on the button to raise pretty big. You only have 40bb going into the hand, it will have to be a seriously ugly flop to get me off it. I think I stick the lot in after the pot lead and the call. The only possible hands we are behind to are KJ and 33 (KK and JJ pretty unlikely given the action). But there are plenty of hands we are still comfortably ahead of, and we also hold the A of hearts but backdoor possibilities.

    That KK hand is just filthy. Unfortunately it sums up Skypoker quite nicely to a degree. Which is why we play here :)
  • edited June 2013
    Who said customer care werent helpful?

    Sarah W: Hi, my name is Sarah W. How may I help you?
    John Garratt: Hi there... I was just playing a DYM on your site and the game crashed.  I've tried to reload it but its come up with the message.... '
    Couldn't launch game
    We're sorry Sky Poker is not available at this time. Please try again later, or if this problem persists please contact our Support Team on 08000 720 882.
    '
    John Garratt: so undoubtably i've lost the game by now and its a fiver down the drain...  
    Sarah W: Please bear with me and I'll look into this for you.
    Sarah W: Sorry for your wait. We have not had any issues like this reported as of yet. Can i ask you to send in a screen shot of the error message you are receiving and we can investigate further.
    File attachment upload has started.
    The file Screen Shot 2013-06-27 at 19.23.36.png (55.12KB) was received.
    John Garratt: thats what pops up when i tried to get onto the game
    John Garratt: its finished now
    Sarah W: Ok thanks.
    Sarah W: Please bare with me again.
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    Sarah W: I wont be much longer.
    Sarah W: What i can try do is log into your account and try access the poker on our computer to try isolate any issues, To do this i first need to take some security deatils.
    Sarah W: Can I take your mother's maiden name and the name of your school please?
    John Garratt: **** **** **** assuming i put my ****
    Sarah W: School begins with a *
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    Sarah W: And your mothers maiden name please?
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    Sarah W: Your mothers maiden name begins with a *
    John Garratt: i didnt put **** did i?
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    John Garratt: im such a muppet
    Sarah W: Do i have your permission to reset your pin to log into your account.
    John Garratt: errr.... is this all necessary?
    Sarah W: This is so we can check if it is your account or your device. I can assure you that i will only check to see if i can launch poker then logg straight back out.
    John Garratt: well i can tell you i can watch poker tables... im not playing anything at the minute but i just checked that i can watch one...  it was just that one table that crashed and i couldnt get back.  There was no internet issues as i was doing other things at the time and my device is all up to date as i had a similar issue about a month ago....
    John Garratt: and got to update everything
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    Sarah W: Ok, we will not go into your account if you do not wish.
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    File attachment upload has started.
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    John Garratt: to prove that i just got blinded out
    Sarah W: I can see that, i will refund this game for you.
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    Sarah W: Can i help you with anything else today?
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    I've seen many a complaint about CC but there are a few people there at least who are very helpful.... and its good to see both sides of the coin.
  • edited June 2013
    Irritated.... again.

    Got to the final table of the 1k bounty hunter.

    First hand on the final table this happens.
    pkrplum Small blind   800.00 800.00 57640.00
    SlowBurner Big blind   1600.00 2400.00 89652.50
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
         
    FAS Fold        
    gazza127 All-in   16110.00 18510.00 0.00
    miller21 Fold        
    Rushquinn All-in   17050.00 35560.00 0.00
    pkrplum Fold        
    SlowBurner Call   15450.00 51010.00 74202.50
    SlowBurner Show
    • 7
    • 10
         
    gazza127 Show
    • A
    • Q
         
    Rushquinn Show
    • A
    • J
         
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • 7
    • 3
         
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    River
       
    • 10
         
    SlowBurner Win Full House, 7s and 10s 51010.00   125212.50
    Another chance for a big cash gone by some muppet who thought 107 was ahead of whatever two guys were shoving.

    SO.FRUSTRATING.
  • edited June 2013
    Just came 2nd in the midnight tournament.

    Played pretty solidly throughout that so pretty pleased with it.

    I got heads up about even stack sizes.... then got dealt 72 about 10 times in a row... not much you can do when oppo is hitting flushes and straights and youre sitting there with bottom pair.

    Anyway I finally picked up an ace (AJ) and jammed and got looked up by 33.

    Game over.

    Still 2nd is nothing to be shrugged at.... plus i blitzed past the 3000 C4P mark today where the £/p increases substantially... so all in all not a bad day.

    Suppose it could have been a whole lot better.... but hey ho.
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