I was in this game as you can see I think you can probably hang on, in this case you happened to be flipping which is alot better than it could have been. I know you're really short but everyone was in the same boat, and sometimes you just gotta get a blind steal in once per orbit to keep your head above water while they knock each other out and in this situation you had zero fold equity. So at best you're flipping. Not that it's a comfort to you but I managed to cash by the way lol, made a losing session slightly better than it was. Posted by Lambert180
LOL _ I actually tried to un-reg from it as it filled up as I could see there were more winning playeres than losing ones but just missed it
The thing that made up my mind was that the guy wasnt playing optimum DYM tactics by limp folding when blinds were high and he,d min raised a cpl of times before on the button
Won 1 and lost 2 since last post this was level 8 and still 6 of us left , which seems to happening more , but can give me your opinion on this one JC . teh guy who raised had limped a cpl of times and min raised a cpl of times Should i have waited for a better spot? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance MP33 Small blind 200.00 200.00 1455.00 shammy161 Big blind 400.00 600.00 282.50 Your hole cards Q J Doubleblow Fold jimbhoy007 Fold Lambert180 Fold warren_m Raise 800.00 1400.00 2650.00 MP33 All-in 1455.00 2855.00 0.00 shammy161 All-in 282.50 3137.50 0.00 warren_m Call 855.00 3992.50 1795.00 MP33 Show Q J shammy161 Show 2 5 warren_m Show 7 7 Flop A K 3 Turn 8 River 4 shammy161 Win Straight to the 5 2047.50 2047.50 warren_m Win Pair of 7s 1945.00 3740.00 Posted by MP33
I'm certainly not as good as JC, but IMO you're at best flipping (Lambert said) and the BB is very shortstacked and definitely calling which just makes your odds worse. I would fold and shove next unopened pot.
Keep playing MTTs recently and not seperating my BR then not knowing how much to withdraw so I have officially started again... again, with £200 earlier, now £216
Will still be playing MTTs and Satellites but am gonna make notes of my buyins so I actually know how i'm doing in DYMs
Keep playing MTTs recently and not seperating my BR then not knowing how much to withdraw so I have officially started again... again, with £200 earlier, now £216 Will still be playing MTTs and Satellites but am gonna make notes of my buyins so I actually know how i'm doing in DYMs GL all Posted by Poker_Fail
Although they are my favourite games I hardly play them now which could explain my recent motivation problems, but will also be trying some sats with a different BR and some micro cash to hopefully cover them
My reason for posting today thoughis to ask ---- Do you think the low stakes ( up to £5 ) have got much harder over last 6 months?
i think the standard in general is going up all the time - even at NL4 now you have plenty of regs trying to make money
No real reads although he,s a reg + winning player
How would you play this . I was unsure from the start , but i figured if he had,t hit a Jack he might put in a small bet to get me off it, hence my all in
Won 1 and lost 2 since last post this was level 8 and still 6 of us left , which seems to happening more , but can give me your opinion on this one JC . teh guy who raised had limped a cpl of times and min raised a cpl of times Should i have waited for a better spot? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance MP33 Small blind 200.00 200.00 1455.00 shammy161 Big blind 400.00 600.00 282.50 Your hole cards Q J Doubleblow Fold jimbhoy007 Fold Lambert180 Fold warren_m Raise 800.00 1400.00 2650.00 MP33 All-in 1455.00 2855.00 0.00 shammy161 All-in 282.50 3137.50 0.00 warren_m Call 855.00 3992.50 1795.00 MP33 Show Q J shammy161 Show 2 5 warren_m Show 7 7 Flop A K 3 Turn 8 River 4 shammy161 Win Straight to the 5 2047.50 2047.50 warren_m Win Pair of 7s 1945.00 3740.00 Posted by MP33
Hi MP33,
I think you can just about wait for a better spot here, yeah. It is very close though I think and it's just because the guy shouldn't ever really be folding that I would prefer to wait. If you had a bit more fold equity then it would become an OK shove. Similarly I would probably make this play, given your reads, if I held an Ace or most pairs.
Q for JC No real reads although he,s a reg + winning player How would you play this . I was unsure from the start , but i figured if he had,t hit a Jack he might put in a small bet to get me off it, hence my all in Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance Oswald16 Small blind 25.00 25.00 1735.00 bigJ80 Big blind 50.00 75.00 2085.00 Your hole cards 10 10 mkgunner Raise 200.00 275.00 1425.00 MP33 Call 200.00 475.00 1725.00 shergy3001 Fold 4673violet Fold Oswald16 Fold bigJ80 Fold Flop J J 3 mkgunner Bet 200.00 675.00 1225.00 MP33 All-in 1725.00 2400.00 0.00 mkgunner All-in 1225.00 3625.00 0.00 MP33 Unmatched bet 300.00 3325.00 300.00 mkgunner Show 9 9 MP33 Show 10 10 Turn 7 River 8 MP33 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 10s 3325.00 3625.00 Posted by MP33
Hi again,
I think you played this pretty much perfectly, the only thing I do differently is raise 3x pre-flop but it's really a matter of personal preference. It's made a touch easier by the villain having a small stack but I'm still raising even if he has more chips. As you're aware the villain is a good reg so can probably mix up his play but I would definately be making a note on this play.
In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Although they are my favourite games I hardly play them now which could explain my recent motivation problems, but will also be trying some sats with a different BR and some micro cash to hopefully cover them My reason for posting today thoughis to ask ---- Do you think the low stakes ( up to £5 ) have got much harder over last 6 months? i think the standard in general is going up all the time - even at NL4 now you have plenty of regs trying to make money Posted by MP33
I have only been playing since march so can't really answer this as I have been improving, although in the last month I have seen a LOT more games reaching levels 6 + 7 with nobody knocked out so probably a yes.
Fantastic little session where I ran like an absolute train. Is it wrong that I still get excited about hands like this in £3.30 DYMs?:
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
JohnConnor
Small blind
50.00
50.00
1850.00
tiltswtch
Big blind
100.00
150.00
2175.00
Your hole cards
5
J
ally44
Call
100.00
250.00
800.00
zhuzh
All-in
765.00
1015.00
0.00
R4TZ
Call
765.00
1780.00
3890.00
loramski
All-in
1505.00
3285.00
0.00
JohnConnor
Fold
tiltswtch
Fold
ally44
All-in
800.00
4085.00
0.00
R4TZ
Call
740.00
4825.00
3150.00
ally44
Show
8
8
zhuzh
Show
Q
A
R4TZ
Show
K
J
loramski
Show
A
A
Flop
4
3
K
Turn
6
River
J
R4TZ
Win
Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks
4825.00
7975.00
I don't think so. Anyway:
Played 20 £3.30s W 17 L 3 Bankroll - £105.32
Had a run of 14 straight wins at the beginning which, coupled with any wins at the end of the last session, should have been my best run ever I think. After an initial miscalculation I've just realised that I only need £110 to move up to the £5.50s, so I'm nearly there! I thought this was going to be one of the longest steps (time/no. of games-wise) but it looks like it could be the shortest. Hope I haven't just jinxed it, pretty excited with where I am at the minute. Hope to get a good grind in on Saturday where hopefully I'll be able to make the jump to the next level...
Fantastic little session where I ran like an absolute train. Is it wrong that I still get excited about hands like this in £3.30 DYMs?: Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance JohnConnor Small blind 50.00 50.00 1850.00 tiltswtch Big blind 100.00 150.00 2175.00 Your hole cards 5 J ally44 Call 100.00 250.00 800.00 zhuzh All-in 765.00 1015.00 0.00 R4TZ Call 765.00 1780.00 3890.00 loramski All-in 1505.00 3285.00 0.00 JohnConnor Fold tiltswtch Fold ally44 All-in 800.00 4085.00 0.00 R4TZ Call 740.00 4825.00 3150.00 ally44 Show 8 8 zhuzh Show Q A R4TZ Show K J loramski Show A A Flop 4 3 K Turn 6 River J R4TZ Win Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks 4825.00 7975.00 I don't think so. Anyway: Played 20 £3.30s W 17 L 3 Bankroll - £105.32 Had a run of 14 straight wins at the beginning which, coupled with any wins at the end of the last session, should have been my best run ever I think. After an initial miscalculation I've just realised that I only need £110 to move up to the £5.50s, so I'm nearly there! I thought this was going to be one of the longest steps (time/no. of games-wise) but it looks like it could be the shortest. Hope I haven't just jinxed it, pretty excited with where I am at the minute. Hope to get a good grind in on Saturday where hopefully I'll be able to make the jump to the next level... Posted by JohnConnor
Have'nt seen a game like this for ages n1.Every game i play goes to level 8-9.
Fantastic little session where I ran like an absolute train. Is it wrong that I still get excited about hands like this in £3.30 DYMs?: Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance JohnConnor Small blind 50.00 50.00 1850.00 tiltswtch Big blind 100.00 150.00 2175.00 Your hole cards 5 J ally44 Call 100.00 250.00 800.00 zhuzh All-in 765.00 1015.00 0.00 R4TZ Call 765.00 1780.00 3890.00 loramski All-in 1505.00 3285.00 0.00 JohnConnor Fold tiltswtch Fold ally44 All-in 800.00 4085.00 0.00 R4TZ Call 740.00 4825.00 3150.00 ally44 Show 8 8 zhuzh Show Q A R4TZ Show K J loramski Show A A Flop 4 3 K Turn 6 River J R4TZ Win Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks 4825.00 7975.00 I don't think so. Anyway: Played 20 £3.30s W 17 L 3 Bankroll - £105.32 Had a run of 14 straight wins at the beginning which, coupled with any wins at the end of the last session, should have been my best run ever I think. After an initial miscalculation I've just realised that I only need £110 to move up to the £5.50s, so I'm nearly there! I thought this was going to be one of the longest steps (time/no. of games-wise) but it looks like it could be the shortest. Hope I haven't just jinxed it, pretty excited with where I am at the minute. Hope to get a good grind in on Saturday where hopefully I'll be able to make the jump to the next level... Posted by JohnConnor
Yeah very nice run JC. My night was about the opposite to yours lol. Couldn't win a race when I started miles ahead eg. KK v 22, flops a 2 lol, and if that didn't happen, I shoved and walked into a monster but oh well, managed to stop the losses a bit near the end. I'll be updating my thread now.
But anyway, don't wanna rain on our parade. Very nice work, impressive how big your BR is already, won't be happy if you catch up with me after how much of a head start I had! lol.
In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Hi again, I think you played this pretty much perfectly, the only thing I do differently is raise 3x pre-flop but it's really a matter of personal preference. It's made a touch easier by the villain having a small stack but I'm still raising even if he has more chips. As you're aware the villain is a good reg so can probably mix up his play but I would definately be making a note on this play. Posted by JohnConnor
Cheers for advice
This is probably one of the reasons i,m going wrong.
Since last session won 1 and lost last 3 on trot. I had a brk for a cpl of weeks and since ive come back , just cant seem to get anything going and i dont feel my play has been that gr8 either
I had a brk for a cpl of weeks and since ive come back , just cant seem to get anything going and i dont feel my play has been that gr8 either Posted by MP33
Play a few £1.15s until you fell like you're playing properly, they're great for confidence boosting!
I havn't been able to concentrate on DYMs properly atm, after winning £16 on wednesday I lost about £14 yesterday through a couple outdraws, but somehorrible decisions by me at times.
I took a break from DYMs and opened a couple cash tables +£44 so gonna take a shot at the £11s tonight, hopefully the increase in stake will help keep me motivated.
EDIT: First game of the day £11, 2nd hand get it all in KK vs AK he binks, play a £5.50 we both have a pair of 10s, I have him outkicked, he hit's 2nd pair on the river. Demoralised... played cash up £45
Maybe I should just stick to cash for a while lol, but anyway, I now have £274 so have a bit more of a cushion if I do start playing the £11s properly.
Decent night where the result is better than I thought it would be, tbh, I was pretty tired throughout and had to end early. I moved up to £5.50s mid-session. The standard is noticably better than the £3.30s and I already encountered a couple of proper regs, nothing too worrying though. Play is also generally tighter. I played a total of 31 £3.30s (provided I don't fall back) to move through that level, which I'm extremely pleased with, notwithstanding the fact that I ran extremely well pretty much throughout.
Played 11 £3.30s W 6 L 5 Played 20 £5.50s W 13 L 7 Bankroll - £125.02 Poker points - 1182 League position - 26th
Decent night where the result is better than I thought it would be, tbh, I was pretty tired throughout and had to end early. I moved up to £5.50s mid-session. The standard is noticably better than the £3.30s and I already encountered a couple of proper regs, nothing too worrying though. Play is also generally tighter. I played a total of 31 £3.30s (provided I don't fall back) to move through that level, which I'm extremely pleased with, notwithstanding the fact that I ran extremely well pretty much throughout. Played 11 £3.30s W 6 L 5 Played 20 £5.50s W 13 L 7 Bankroll - £125.02 Poker points - 1182 League position - 26th Posted by JohnConnor
LOL ( i,ll be avoiding you if i can )
Just wondered what you thought of this hand in level 1. Did i scare him off to early with the min raise and i,m guessing you wouldnt advocate getting it all in pre against an unknown as your probably flipping and thats not what u want in DYM,s or is there a case for it
I'm gonna guess he'd say no MP33. Maybe earlier in my challenge I would have but I've stopped being so aggresive on the bubble now. You're gonna be in real trouble with this hand if you get called... even if they have KQ do you wanna take that race? And you're gonna get callers quite often with the stacks people have.
I'm gonna guess he'd say no MP33. Maybe earlier in my challenge I would have but I've stopped being so aggresive on the bubble now. You're gonna be in real trouble with this hand if you get called... even if they have KQ do you wanna take that race? And you're gonna get callers quite often with the stacks people have. Posted by Lambert180
I have stared to be a bit more agressive on the bubble as ive seen others do it and get away with it
Only managed a cpl of ga,es - Still not put in a session over 5 games yet , but will do tommorow hopefully
Cant win a game now - always seem to go out on the bubble so I guess its something im doing wrong when we get to 4 players started with £100 - down to £80 now Posted by MP33
Best thing to do would be post shove of the hands where you've bubbled. I imagine it's at a stage where it's shove or fold so people will be able to tell you if you should be shoving that wide or what not so stick a couple of hands up. Sometimes you might be doing everything right and lose quite a few in a row. Personally I've had a slight loss this session and it's just down to a few races where I was the favourite not going my way on the bubble but it happens.
In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : To clarify, winning 6/9 at £11b.i. is: cost: 9 x (10+1) = 99 winnings = 6 x (10x2) = 120 net profit = 21 quid plus some points (about 18% roi) I know you meant total sng roll though Posted by BigRonnieC
What I meant was, I have been playing mostly cash lately and not keeping track of it, I think It was actually £243.50 or something, but as I wasn't sure said £242 as that is the BR needed for the £11s
But anyway, won 8 of 9 tonight. so that's £61 profit
Cant win a game now - always seem to go out on the bubble so I guess its something im doing wrong when we get to 4 players started with £100 - down to £80 now Posted by MP33
At 5quid buy in? That's to be expected now and again no matter how well you play. Once it gets to the stage where everyone shoving you can: -get it in with the best hand and take a beat -shove to steal not expecting a call and being called and losing -shove with a good hand like JJ and run into AA or KK
Like Lambert said post some examples so we can see stack sizes and hands played. DYMs reward you for a lack of mistakes rather than good play, but sometimes you can do everything right and lose anyway.
In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : At 5quid buy in? That's to be expected now and again no matter how well you play. Once it gets to the stage where everyone shoving you can: -get it in with the best hand and take a beat -shove to steal not expecting a call and being called and losing -shove with a good hand like JJ and run into AA or KK Like Lambert said post some examples so we can see stack sizes and hands played. DYMs reward you for a lack of mistakes rather than good play, but sometimes you can do everything right and lose anyway. Posted by BigRonnieC
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The thing that made up my mind was that the guy wasnt playing optimum DYM tactics by limp folding when blinds were high and he,d min raised a cpl of times before on the button
OBV best to see JC's opinion though
Will still be playing MTTs and Satellites but am gonna make notes of my buyins so I actually know how i'm doing in DYMs
GL all
My reason for posting today thoughis to ask ---- Do you think the low stakes ( up to £5 ) have got much harder over last 6 months?
i think the standard in general is going up all the time - even at NL4 now you have plenty of regs trying to make money
No real reads although he,s a reg + winning player
How would you play this . I was unsure from the start , but i figured if he had,t hit a Jack he might put in a small bet to get me off it, hence my all in
I think you can just about wait for a better spot here, yeah. It is very close though I think and it's just because the guy shouldn't ever really be folding that I would prefer to wait. If you had a bit more fold equity then it would become an OK shove. Similarly I would probably make this play, given your reads, if I held an Ace or most pairs.
I think you played this pretty much perfectly, the only thing I do differently is raise 3x pre-flop but it's really a matter of personal preference. It's made a touch easier by the villain having a small stack but I'm still raising even if he has more chips. As you're aware the villain is a good reg so can probably mix up his play but I would definately be making a note on this play.
Played 20 £3.30s W 17 L 3
Bankroll - £105.32
Had a run of 14 straight wins at the beginning which, coupled with any wins at the end of the last session, should have been my best run ever I think. After an initial miscalculation I've just realised that I only need £110 to move up to the £5.50s, so I'm nearly there! I thought this was going to be one of the longest steps (time/no. of games-wise) but it looks like it could be the shortest. Hope I haven't just jinxed it, pretty excited with where I am at the minute. Hope to get a good grind in on Saturday where hopefully I'll be able to make the jump to the next level...
Have'nt seen a game like this for ages n1.Every game i play goes to level 8-9.
But anyway, don't wanna rain on our parade. Very nice work, impressive how big your BR is already, won't be happy if you catch up with me after how much of a head start I had! lol.
This is probably one of the reasons i,m going wrong.
Since last session won 1 and lost last 3 on trot. I had a brk for a cpl of weeks and since ive come back , just cant seem to get anything going and i dont feel my play has been that gr8 either
I havn't been able to concentrate on DYMs properly atm, after winning £16 on wednesday I lost about £14 yesterday through a couple outdraws, but somehorrible decisions by me at times.
I took a break from DYMs and opened a couple cash tables +£44 so gonna take a shot at the £11s tonight, hopefully the increase in stake will help keep me motivated.
EDIT: First game of the day £11, 2nd hand get it all in KK vs AK he binks, play a £5.50 we both have a pair of 10s, I have him outkicked, he hit's 2nd pair on the river. Demoralised... played cash up £45
Maybe I should just stick to cash for a while lol, but anyway, I now have £274 so have a bit more of a cushion if I do start playing the £11s properly.
Played 11 £3.30s W 6 L 5
Played 20 £5.50s W 13 L 7
Bankroll - £125.02
Poker points - 1182
League position - 26th
Just wondered what you thought of this hand in level 1. Did i scare him off to early with the min raise and i,m guessing you wouldnt advocate getting it all in pre against an unknown as your probably flipping and thats not what u want in DYM,s or is there a case for it
How would you play this from the button - Cheers
managed to cash in nxt hand
ActionCardsAmountPotBalanceBECKS222 Small blind 150.00 150.00 2050.00 MP33 Big blind 300.00 450.00 2075.00 Your hole cards A A vance1969 Fold THE_KURGAN Raise 900.00 1350.00 6185.00 BECKS222 Fold MP33 Fold THE_KURGAN Muck THE_KURGAN Win 750.00 6935.00 THE_KURGAN Return 600.00 0.00 7535.00
It doesnt show it but the nest BB has 1 BB + 40 chips
Ps I,ve just managed to get my msn on again and will put my address for anyone else who uses it and wants to discuss any hands etc -
edit = cant find it at the minute but im on skype as well as joebananas33
Went out on the bubble with this hand : Would you have done the same?
Only managed a cpl of ga,es - Still not put in a session over 5 games yet , but will do tommorow hopefully
I think that puts my "DYM bankroll" at £263
cost: 9 x (10+1) = 99
winnings = 6 x (10x2) = 120
net profit = 21 quid plus some points (about 18% roi)
I know you meant total sng roll though
started with £100 - down to £80 now
But anyway, won 8 of 9 tonight. so that's £61 profit
DYM BR: £324
-get it in with the best hand and take a beat
-shove to steal not expecting a call and being called and losing
-shove with a good hand like JJ and run into AA or KK
Like Lambert said post some examples so we can see stack sizes and hands played. DYMs reward you for a lack of mistakes rather than good play, but sometimes you can do everything right and lose anyway.