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One thing I've noticed, and we've all seen it happen, is even if we get to levels 8 or 9 (or above) 5 or 6 handed, people at the table still play to the tune of the table leader even if there is a negligible difference in stack sizes, and sometimes, even when the table leader is not the biggest stack (normally an early leader, aggressive raiser and caller - may have just lost chips calling an all in...).
The crucial point is, people instinctively look for a table leader - the person who, halfway through the DYM - if asked, you would all agree would make the cash. If you can become this person, even if you are not an outright chip beast, you can steal blinds and have blinds folded to you by reputation alone.
What happens 5 or 6 handed with deep blinds is the higher stacks (say 3k+) try to maintain the inequality between themselves and the lower stacks (1.2k or less) and this requires a strategy to avoid the bigger stacks and therefore, some level of implicit collusion. This is where the table leader (the Don) dictates things.
Bigger stacks fold to him, as a sign of respect/expecting the favour to be returned (like Godfather 2 when people give gifts to Vito Corleone), small stacks get into a dog eat dog fight if all goes to plan as the looming blinds force them to shove more often and give better/unfoldable odds to call.
Basically, it's not so much a rational strategy based on maths that is useful in this situation, it is an understanding of table dynamics and psychology that would be your best asset to get into an adventageous position.
Please tell me this has been articulated clearly!
Played 30 £3.30s W 15 L 15
Bankroll - £98.72
Played 25 £3.30s W 18 L 7
Bankroll - £121.52
Rolled for the £5.50s again, roll on tomorrow night. Hating having to go to bed early to get up for work at 8am :-(
Yeah had another quite frustrating session myself JC, always annoys me when I just can't get over that 50% mark, like I load up 2 win 1/2, then load up another 2, make it 2/4, another 2, 3/6, and so on and just can't get that 2 in a row to push me in to profit.
Oh well, I know it's just the way it falls, many a time I win 4-5 in a row.
Played 20 £5.50s W 12 L 8
Bankroll - £120.52
This game was a $20 + $2 PLO DYM - 8 player. It seemed easier than a £3 0r £5 on here
Ive found a marked imrovement on Sky in the low stakes DYM,s and don,t think the myth in general "That Sky is a soft site " is true anymore . Players on Sky have learnt a lot and the standard is always improving
Just out of interest do you know of any other sites for DYM,s JC and what their like compared to Sky,s?
MP33, was going to say I don't unfortunately, sorry, but having seen Dazler's post above, I have read somewhere that 888 is good for them now so might be worth a look there . . .
Played 15 £5.50s W 9 L 6
Bankroll - £132.52
Just about the highest I've been since starting this, hope to play tomorrow night and in fact every night over the weekend. Off out now, gl everyone . . .
Won 2
Lost 2
Heres a cpl of hands I think I maybe could have played differently . Wouldn,t mind opinions on how differently i could have played them - Cheers
I cashed in this one but it was getting a very tight game and i thought i could get my min raise through after i,d not pllayed a hand for a while
It was one of those games where no-one wanted to finish off the short stack and you sometimes get frustrated with it and make mistakes like mine , especially when ppl are folding with huge stacks , when they are getting odds to call with any 2
Bankroll was £136.52
Then had a great session tonight, obviously ran well here:
Played 32 £5.50s W 24 L 8
Bankroll- £205.02
Feeling quite good about the bankroll now, touch wood I will be able to move upto the £11s sometime soon.
glad to help you out in one of those games.
Hand 1 - one guy shoves the turn and I call wih 2pr cos theres no way he shoves with better than my hand on that board, he has QQ so I'm ahead and then rivers the Q.
Hand 2 - I've got KK and walk into a guy whose flopped 2pair cos he wouldnt let go of Q8 to my raise pre. That took a few chips off me.
Hand 3 - Left with about 2.8k from the KK hand. I get QQ, someone opens with 3x raise, someone 3bets, I shove and get called by AA lol, I even flop the Q but he rivered the straight...
I hope this ends soon.
Re MP33's 66 hand:
Sorry it's taken me a while to comment on this one MP33, I haven't been online that much in the last few days.
Here are my thoughts about it. I wouldn't be shoving pre, I don't think the stack sizes or the situation are right for that and it appears the risk/reward is not good enough. So I would mostly lean towards folding. However, I don't hate a call and would make this play myself sometimes, particularly if the game is not progressing. You're getting 3 to 1 in a fairly easy spot, either flop a set or get out.
However, the poker gods decided to test you with a flop, very unlucky really. That being said, though, what I said above about flopping a set or getting out still rings mostly true and I'm sure it was in your head pre-flop too. As such my overriding objective when that flop comes is to play a small pot. I'm putting in 300 more chips max if I don't improve (or slightly more if he min bets flop and turn then makes a small bet on the river - which he can't really do from his stack anyway). Ideally my opponent will min-bet (or check!) the flop and turn, which happens surprisingly often in these spots late on. If he half pots the flop, I think I find one call, looking to turn my straight or my set (my set is good since I can never put him on a 3 here) and knowing that he will also give up on the turn sometimes aswell. If he bets 3/4 pot on the flop I fold. 3/4 pot is a big bet in itself, it's a huge part of his stack, and it indicates that he's going all the way with the hand. Those 3 factors point to strength that the 66 can't match. So yeah, I'm definately not leading for 3/4 pot, I'm not leading at all but if I was I would make it half pot. Then I think you have to fold to the click back from that stack, that indicates huge strength.
All in all it is a tough spot and you got unlucky. But such a tough spot becomes much, much easier if your thinking when you see the flop changes. If you adopt a tight DYM mindset then this becomes a clear spot to play a small pot, not a large one.