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Hand 1 - Completely Standard.
Hand 2 - Jam is fine. Checking back just misses value a large % of the time and against villain's stack size you cant really b/f.
Hand 3 - Wp. Like calling the flop and then jamming the turn. There's lots of combos of Ad/Kd/lower sets that will call that your crushing. Ul this time.
Judging from the hands you have posted your being a bit harsh on yourself imo. Just because you lose a hand does not mean that you have not played it optimally
Just think how many times we will make money when he limp calls 50p, misses his dream flop, then folds:)
Hand 2
Only think I can think of is bet bigger otf. As said by Chris checking back misses out on a ton of value.
Hand 3
I think there is also an argument for trying to GII otf here.
You've made a tidy profit this week and seem to show a good understanding of the game, won't be long before NL10 is a distant memory and the limp calling with q6s is a lot more scarce:(
gl
Do you really both think hand 1 is a snap call? It just feels like I'm going to see trips here so much of the time that I'm just burning money... that one I'm still beating myself up a bit!
What I have learned to do more (thanks Larson) is to bump the bet sizes up against those sort of oppos that will call almost any bet to see a flop. That easily compensates for the times where they do flop the world and I have to fold / get stacked.
Surprised that I was only +£5 from the hour or so I played last night, especially as I only had 7 losses /> £1 and only one big loss (which I'll post after).
I guess the raise pre / c/f flops counted up. Despite my nittiness advertising most of my raises were getting called in several spots and lots of hands I was 3 or 4-ways to the flop where, in the main, I couldn't hit a cows backside with a banjo.
Maybe I need to tighten my range again, particularly from the earlier positions where maybe hands like KJ / KQo should be binned more when everyone's limped and I feel obliged to chuck in a chunky raise to take it down pre. With the knowledge that I'm going to be oop to at least 1 oppo in the majority of occasions, perhaps it's safer to just see the free flop?
Similarly on the button, perhaps the non-suited ace-rag should be lost. Feels like anything less than AT, maybe A9 has dodgy reversed implied odds against people that limp/call ace-rag themselves.
Name them!
It was pretty funny one time a total was nit was moaning about how bad they were running.
It must suck 2 play 2 hands per hour and still lose:((
Pretty much the tale of two hands in my short stint at the tables yesterday. I was playing terribly so decided to pack in and visit friends instead.
Max value from AA vs a maniac and a probably dubious river call vs a shoved busted OESD meant I ended with a small profit from what would otherwise have been a deserved losing session.
Having maniacs at the table should make for decent sessions, but I can't seem to get the adjustments right here - both in terms of playing the table gamber and in respect to the altered dynamic of other players at the table. Worst part is that I don't even know if that is because I'm getting too aggressive or too passive... will be searching for articles that can maybe help clarify this.
Footy pain
Got 6/8 for a whole £4.94 profit on the footy. In retrospect I probably should have just lumped on the better value-priced of the 8, with Rochdale probably being the pick and Blackburn not far behind - especially after Birmingham showed how bad they are when getting beat by Forest on Saturday.
Shockingly two wins on the bounce mean that Forest are right back in the play-off hunt now. I'd finally resigned myself to the season being over last weekend, look forward to a summer and hope Psycho has a flying start to the season next year... but now it seems there is guaranteed to be at least one more painful twist of the knife to come, be that a last-day disappointment against Brighton or, given our rank terrible play-off record, another painful game at that lacking Pride Park.
Mixture of bad play and every flip going the way of my oppo made for a bad session. After the last flush draw got there on the river for another -£5 I gave up and watched Jose's parked bus on the telly instead.
The hand below sums up the 'bad play' part of things.
Poker 101 - never go broke in limped pots.
One day I'll learn to live by this and stop spewing money.
I'd normally remove names, but have left in to try and explain some of the madness.
I didn't really want to raise my 22 from the blinds and face a back-raise (?) which wouldn't be entirely unexpected here. Appreciate that I probably should take either a raise or fold line though.
With that many players seeing the flop I opted to donk as it was almost certain I'd get some money in the pot and didn't want to give free draws to a flush (or possibly straight).
Then it went nuts. The hand explains it better:
Not quite sure why I didn't just pile it in here, irrespective of the final outcome.
Obviously the runner runner straight was always going to come in ahead of the flush, or paired board
I think I need to just start binning the smallest pairs unless I'm in position and using them as blind steal/maybe flop OK sort of hands.
I gather you're a Forest fan?
I'll be there Saturday to see them against the mighty Cherries.
Should be a good game.
Cheers for the feedback - yeah I knew it should have gone in the flop.
I think the only thing remotely in my mind at that stage was that there must be a flush draw out there, so was happy (ish) to see the turn first... then OOP I was uncertain whether I wanted to check (and maybe let the FD get there cheaply) or donk out (and possibly make the FD fold rather than semi-bluff me)... given there were 3 in the pot still I took the donk route, but this was probably also flawed.
Bankroll £732.86
I literally facepalmed myself last night when I dumped 78BB after flopping a set of 33s from the BB and betting every street only to get AI raised on the river to find that the second 7 which had arrived on the river had given the button a higher full house (7s over Aces). I was convinced he he had a 7 but just didn't think he'd have limped the button with an A
I'm just going to instamuck next time and stop being a spew monkey.
I'm not sure if this is bad play or just coincidence or... ???
Going back through my HH today I also looked at all the smaller losses, rather than just the 10BB losses.
I don't know how much there is in this, but there were a lot of hands I didn't cbet. Now I used to bet close to 100% irrespective of opponents and that was a major leak, but possibly now I've rebalanced too far the other way.
The only thing is that checking out the flops and the fact many of the pots were 3 or 4 way to the board, I'm not sure I'd have gotten very far unless I triple-barrelled (mostly as a bluff given I'm missing the flops) - and against most micro players I'm not sure that's a good decision, especially those hands I'm OOP.
I read an article in poker player this month by Patrick Leonard which suggested a cbet (when missed / weak hit) only when there are no more than 2 cards between 8 and Q on the flop - which sort of makes sense - although maybe of less value at micro, given the 'odd' ranges compared to what you may see at higher stakes. Many of my flops yesterday seemed to fall into this category.
And then...
Two other things I noticed which may need tweaks:
1) There are lots of pots where I raised pre, whiffed the flop but cbet, got called, checked a blank turn, folded to a river raise.
A lot of these were vs weaker players... I can't quite bring myself (yet) to station down with A-/K-high or underpair to the board too often, but maybe I need to.
I think I double (and triple) barrel more than most at these levels, but am not sure it's a sensible tactic with so many people happily calling to see out their draws. But perhaps I am just giving too much credit when I have no hand and face a pattern of call flop/check turn/bet river.
2) Slowing down on turn scare cards with stronger hands.
I get and use (in a fashion) the concept of bluffing/semi-bluffing turn cards when you have the initiative in the pot - ie raise pre, cbet flop, barrell turn when an A / K falls as most oppo will recognise you would likely have raised pre with one of these cards and are now less happy about their pocket 2s.
I wonder whether I need to recognise this in reverse when I have a big hand, ie set, 2 pr, or when I have actually improved with my AK/AQ hands etc - as I may be more likely to get value from my hand if I rep being scared of the card (as I would if I had pocket 10s, Js etc).
I do seem to have a lot of hands where I get one street of value and then lose my way en route to value town through being too greedy on the turn.
Obviously this isn't something I'd be trying if flush and/or straight draws were evolving on the board.
I wonder whether over the longer term this sort of approach may mean bigger wins to offset the times I allow them to hit a river that beats me.
Only a very short two-table session yesterday. Had a brief stint at an NL20 table due to there being an option to sit in position to two players I've played a bit at various micro levels from NL4-NL10 and couldn't really turn that down.
Left the table as soon as they were both felted (yeah, I'm a filthy bumhunter) as although I'd had some good cards vs the 3 regs at the table, I was evidently going to be the fish from that point and didn't fancy donating my winnings.
Had a great spot on the NL10 table I had running parallel, but things to do so broke even after a bit of an early loss on that table.
One hand that bemused me a little, in a good way, was how I got a fold here. Probably should have smooth called turn (in retrospect) but thought the oppo would be pot committed with c75% of stack in middle.
Notes suggested the donk would be an A or Q (most likely TP) so really surprised that it must have been a double barrell bluff to then fold for the last £6.90 with so much in the pot!
Yeah normally a good game, Bournemouth have always seemed to play football 'the right way' from what I've seen of them the past few years.
The last time I visited the Fitness First Arena (or whatever it was called at the time) was during our League 1 days. Was a bit odd as they seemed to have sold more tickets than they had seats, so there were loads of away fans stood/sat in the aisles and a 90-minute long argument with stewards that we had to take seats (that didn't exist).
Also nearly lost my head in exchange for the half time pie - the shutters just auto came down dead on 4pm while I was leaning on the counter... that nearly caused another battle between fans and officials as loads of people had their money / beer / pie the other side of the shutters.
Don't really fancy us in this one tbh, but then we always like to make things as painful as possible... so will probably fluke a win in order to set up a far greater disappointment vs Brighton or Derby
I'm a little disappointed updating this today, after never really getting going on Sunday and losing a big all-in during my brief one-table NL20 foray to end the day down around £15.
But then I look at my bankroll and I'm nearly £100 up still from a weekend where I didn't exactly put in huge volume... so can't exactly be too down on myself!
Friday night I felt absolutely in the zone and made some enjoyable hero calls and (what I believe were) hero folds. Helped that there weren't exactly world beaters at some of my tables, but a sweet feeling all the same.
I think this is possibly my biggest single pot loss on Sky, but can console myself that I don't think I played the hand poorly. The villain had been very tight in my time at the table whereas I'd benefitted from being in position vs the weakest player and had been opening and three betting a lot (by my standards). The worst part was that the weak players had just all left the table and I was thinking about quitting anyway, but gave it 'one last orbit'... doh!
Can't grumble though, it was my turn to bad beat someone with 22 earlier at the table when we both flopped sets and I doubled up.
Only good part was a few quid profit after post-Moyes United easily covered the handicap and yesterday's results increased the odds of Liverpool not winning the title... here's hoping that Citeh don't go and throw it away, again.
Poker Player
Forgot to add that I enjoyed my standard monthly wander to town to grab Poker Player mag and read over a coffee.
Good article by Simon Hemsworth (I think?) about playing 'awkward' AK/AQ and JJ type hands... think this proved a help over the weekend.
Also a useful thinking piece on bluffing calling stations, well timed as I was mulling over my play against these oppos last week and thinking about how I could do more than just waiting for hands and full-potting for value!
Always a good way to waste a couple of quid. They still haven't printed my question for Sofia Lovgren though.
Aye great result for you mob... shame you can't quite make the play-offs as I can't really support any of the teams in the 4 spots currently... 3 lots of parachute payment-funded strong squads and the sheep... ah well... as long as we still have derby days next season, good luck to one of the 3 rich kids getting back to the promised land
Probably should have been higher, got suckered again a few times when an oppo obviously had flopped trips but I paid them off with an overpair.
Wasn't the longest of sessions but seemed to be more active than other recent games, lots of three-betting and even the odd four-bet bluff. Not sure how clever it is to be doing this at micro cash, but it does make things fun
Re the hand below - I had this exact same position on the flop on two tables last night - alas I (over) hit on the one where I was playing for about £3 and completely whiffed the one where I was stacked for £10 - damn you variance!
Another one... I can't believe how many of these have occurred at my tables in the last year!
Well that was just plain car crash stuff yesterday, guess I was due one of those to drag me back down to earth!
I've played worse and won recently. just one of those days where everyone hit when I got it in, happened to have the nuts when ever I tried to bluff my was to winning pots and all the flops seemed to be the sort of 9TJ that either made my good hands look weak or completely missed my speculative hands.
Ah well, next time!!
Daft part is, I don't even recall any hands that were obvious learning points to chuck at Lambert's generous coaching offer, but will have a look back over some of the spots to double check.
This was the only time I wasn't a believer last night and got appropriately punished!