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Phantom's Practice Perms

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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Phantom's Practice Perms:
    Hi P66. I think I know how to semi automate this. I will try and do it later tonight. In the meantime if you do anything with it that may assist, please email it to me. I will post on this thread when I start to work on it so that we don't duplicate effort. Cheers, G
    Posted by StayOrGo
    OK, I am working on this now, will email you my results.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited June 2017
    Hi P66.

    OK I have automated most of it.

    I will send you the starting spreadsheet, and then six more showing how it should be updated LEG by LEG.

    the important thing is to only update fields in ORANGE otherwise the formulas will get messed up.

    I am having trouble "protecting the cells", so have put cells in ORANGE that are manually updated, the rest should populate automatically.

    On each sheet there are two versions. The top one is the one generated automatically by the formulas the bottom one is my manual version to use as a cross reference check. There are some minor differences in values due to rounding, with the automated one being more accurate.

    Note that until the "UNITS LEFT" field is populated, it shows as an error due to trying to divide by zero.

    Let me know your thoughts.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited June 2017
    FYI, Wynne, I can send you these spreadsheets too if interested.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • wynne1938wynne1938
    edited June 2017
    Thanks 
    Graham
    I am interested
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited June 2017
    Thanks G.

    I'll have a look and get back to you later.

    Without looking I know I can fix the divide by zero error.
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited June 2017
    Todays attempt at Doncaster.

    Selections

      30th June Doncaster        
    £0.10 per line PLACEPOT ENTRIES      
                 
    TIME Sel 1 Sel 2 Sel 3 Sel 4 Sel 5 Sel 6
    14.00 Jane Rose Eirene Peace Prevails Sardenya    
    14.30 Learn by Heart One Second Porth Swtan El Chapo    
    15.00 Flood Defence Bright Boy Jack Nevison Ashwaq Mr Cool Cash Size Matters
    15.30 Century Dream Mulazim Mustarrid Helovaplan    
    16.00 What a Home Superiority Complex Kitty Boo Sugar Drop    
    16.30 Braes of Lockhalsh Fire Jet Itlaaq Incus    
    		     
             

    Perms

      PERM              
      1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
                     
    14.00 12 13 23 234 24 1 14 12
    14.30 1 12 1 13 23 14 24 23
    15.00 12 234 13 15 135 246 24 16
    15.30 12 13 23 1 24 13 124 1
    16.00 12 13 234 14 12 23 1 13
    16.30 123 1 23 34 1 12 24 134
                     
    Lines 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48
          Lines 384        
          COST £38.40        
    I'll aim to follow results with G's equity calculator.

    GL All.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Phantom's Practice Perms:
    Todays attempt at Doncaster. Selections   30th June Doncaster         £0.10 per line PLACEPOT ENTRIES                     TIME Sel 1 Sel 2 Sel 3 Sel 4 Sel 5 Sel 6 14.00 Jane Rose Eirene Peace Prevails Sardenya     14.30 Learn by Heart One Second Porth Swtan El Chapo     15.00 Flood Defence Bright Boy Jack Nevison Ashwaq Mr Cool Cash Size Matters 15.30 Century Dream Mulazim Mustarrid Helovaplan     16.00 What a Home Superiority Complex Kitty Boo Sugar Drop     16.30 Braes of Lockhalsh Fire Jet Itlaaq Incus                             Perms   PERM                 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8                   14.00 12 13 23 234 24 1 14 12 14.30 1 12 1 13 23 14 24 23 15.00 12 234 13 15 135 246 24 16 15.30 12 13 23 1 24 13 124 1 16.00 12 13 234 14 12 23 1 13 16.30 123 1 23 34 1 12 24 134                   Lines 48 48 48 48 48 48 48 48       Lines 384               COST £38.40         I'll aim to follow results with G's equity calculator. GL All.
    Posted by Phantom66
    GOOD LUCK
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited June 2017
    TY

    Still in 6 perms after LEG 2.

    Working on automating the equity sheet and will hopefully have an update on that before the meeting is over or I am out.
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited June 2017
    Still in Perms 1,3,4 and 8 after leg 4
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited June 2017
    If the table below is correct then I have cracked the equity spreadsheet, if not help!

    EQUITY PERM 1 PERM 2 PERM 3 PERM 4 PERM 5 PERM 6 PERM 7 PERM 8 TOTAL POOL/UNITS LEFT
                         
    COST £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £38.40 £100,203.76
                         
    Start Equity £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £28.03 £73,148.74
                         
    Leg 1 £4.29 £0.00 £4.29 £5.72 £8.58 £0.00 £4.29 £4.29 £31.46 £56,053.51
    Leg 2 £5.07 £0.00 £5.07 £3.38 £5.07 £0.00 £2.54 £2.54 £23.66 £47,425.41
    Leg 3 £7.17 £0.00 £7.17 £4.78 £4.78 £0.00 £0.00 £7.17 £31.07 £16,771.79
    Leg 4 £7.31 £0.00 £7.31 £9.74 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £14.62 £38.98 £8,226.24
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited June 2017
    1,3,4,8 still live going in to Leg 6
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited June 2017
    Equity still below starting cost though...

    EQUITY PERM 1 PERM 2 PERM 3 PERM 4 PERM 5 PERM 6 PERM 7 PERM 8 TOTAL POOL/UNITS LEFT
                         
    COST £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £38.40 £100,203.76
                         
    Start Equity £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £28.03 £73,148.74
                         
    Leg 1 £4.29 £0.00 £4.29 £5.72 £8.58 £0.00 £4.29 £4.29 £31.46 £56,053.51
    Leg 2 £5.07 £0.00 £5.07 £3.38 £5.07 £0.00 £2.54 £2.54 £23.66 £47,425.41
    Leg 3 £7.17 £0.00 £7.17 £4.78 £4.78 £0.00 £0.00 £7.17 £31.07 £16,771.79
    Leg 4 £7.31 £0.00 £7.31 £9.74 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £14.62 £38.98 £8,226.24
    Leg 5 £10.88 £0.00 £3.63 £7.26 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £10.88 £32.65 £5,523.41
    Leg 6 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00  
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited June 2017
    Think I have 2 lines each in perms 1 and 8.

    Wating for diidend info now.
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited June 2017
    Double shucks.

    I won but lost again and sheet was wrong, now corrected...

    EQUITY PERM 1 PERM 2 PERM 3 PERM 4 PERM 5 PERM 6 PERM 7 PERM 8 TOTAL POOL/UNITS LEFT
                         
    COST £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £4.80 £38.40 £100,203.76
                         
    Start EV £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £3.50 £28.03 £73,148.74
                         
    Leg 1 £3.13 £0.00 £3.13 £4.18 £6.26 £0.00 £3.13 £3.13 £22.97 £56,053.51
    Leg 2 £3.70 £0.00 £3.70 £2.47 £3.70 £0.00 £1.85 £1.85 £17.27 £47,425.41
    Leg 3 £5.23 £0.00 £5.23 £3.49 £3.49 £0.00 £0.00 £5.23 £22.68 £16,771.79
    Leg 4 £5.34 £0.00 £5.34 £7.11 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £10.67 £28.45 £8,226.24
    Leg 5 £7.95 £0.00 £2.65 £5.30 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £7.95 £23.84 £5,523.41
    Leg 6 £4.30 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £4.30 £8.61 £3,399.76


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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited June 2017
    UL,

    There is a floor with the sheet in as much as when you update a LEG the values for the previous LEG change, so best to change previous leg to values rather than formulas as you go, I don't know if you did that?

    CHESTER?
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited June 2017
    I did actually place a quadpot (2x4 selections) £1.60 placed, £2.70 returned with 2 lines coming up.

    Not quite up to Wynne standards but it is a win at least. My first mutli race tote one.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2017
    WELL DONE I LOST OUT LEG 6
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  • wynne1938wynne1938
    edited June 2017
    Well done
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited July 2017
    Change of strategy for today at Pontefract.

    Interesting shape with a very competitive handicap to start and some competitive small field races. 

    I have adapted the perms to give full coverage in

    If a couple of favourites do not place (which I consider quite possible) this could be both gettable and a decent dividend.

    Having said that I am still only risking play money here.

    SELECTIONS

      3 July Pontefract          
    £0.10 per line PLACEPOT ENTRIES      
                 
    TIME Sel 1 Sel 2 Sel 3 Sel 4 Sel 5 Sel 6
    Leg 1 Boundsy Oriental Splendour Jacobs Pillow Spirit of Wezda Mininggold Dusty Blue
    Leg 2 Unfortunately Zaman Zap Izzy Bizzu    
    Leg 3 The Feathered Nest Partitia Love Oasis Glenrowan rose    
    Leg 4 Cornerstone Lad New Society Marqoom Dyna Might Breakwater Bay  
    Leg 5 Don Valentino Arcadian Angel Dellaguista Grinty    
    Leg 6 Trinity Star Yorkee Mo Sabee Full of Promise Destroyer    

    PERMS

      PERM      
      1 2 3 4
             
    Leg 1 124 236 125 134
    Leg 2 12 13 24 23
    Leg 3 12 23 14 13
    Leg 4 235 14 12 134
    Leg 5 12 13 234 14
    Leg 6 14 123 13 24
             
    Lines 144 144 144 144
          Lines 576
          COST £57.60

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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited July 2017
    Actually would have made a virtual profit of £12.93 today.

    I had 13 lines survive...

      1 2 3 4
             
    14.00 1   15 1
    14.30 2   2 2
    15.00 12 2 1 1
    15.30 25 1 12 1
    16.00 12 1 2 1
    16.30 4 3 3 4
             
    Active 8 0 4 1
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited July 2017
    N1 P!
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  • wynne1938wynne1938
    edited July 2017
    Weir done.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited July 2017
    Hi P66.

    Just to explain why I use ABC instead of 123 when I do my perms.

    It's so I don't get confused when I place the bets.

    As in my mind I say, for example, A is Horse number 5, B is 8, C is 10 etc.

    If I started to say 1 is 5, 2 is 8, 3 is 10, I'd get very confused and would be more likely to make an error in bet placement, other than that I pretty much will use your template now.

    When I put my actual ABC selections for each race in, I will use the horses number followed by the first 3 characters of their name, so that I can do it quickly but still have some form of cross reference, as it can get confusing when trying to place a lot of big perms on at the last minute.

    Thanks again for sending me the new and better template.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • wynne1938wynne1938
    edited July 2017
    Hi P66,could you send me your template as well.Much appreciated
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited July 2017
    Hi Wynne,

    It's a joint effort between me and G at the moment. I don't have the latest version yet due to compatability issues and I don't have your email address.

    G has the latest version and your email so probably easier for him to send it to you?


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  • wynne1938wynne1938
    edited July 2017
    Ok Thanks
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited July 2017
    In Response to Re: Phantom's Practice Perms:
    Ok Thanks
    Posted by wynne1938
    Hi Wynne, I have emailed it to you, any questions, let me know.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited July 2017
    Trying a placepot at Chepstow today.

      4 July Chepstow        
    £0.10 per line PLACEPOT ENTRIES    
               
    TIME Sel A Sel B Sel C Sel D Sel E
    Leg 1 12 - DEADLY 2- BREATH  1- LEESHAAN 6 - FORTUNE  
    Leg 2 2 - BARRAQ 4- DREAM 1- AIRSHOW    
    Leg 3 16 - SWEET 2 - TITUS 7-CHAMP 8-MALLY  
    Leg 4 5 -FANT 2-PROC 6-SEE 8-BOIS  
    Leg 5 1-MISS T 10-THREE L 12-DON P 3-THE DET 5-MISKIN
    Leg 6 3-RAHM 7-ST D 2-YA J SPFAV 8-HEN

    PERMS

      PERM      
      1 2 3 4
             
    Leg 1 AB ABC AD BC
    Leg 2 ABC AC AB ABC
    Leg 3 AC AB BCD AB
    Leg 4 AB ABD AB AC
    Leg 5 AC BD AC ABE
    Leg 6 ABE AB BCD AC
             
    Lines 144 144 144 144
          Lines 576
          COST £57.60
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited July 2017
    Also doing a real life Quadpot at Chepstow based on above selections (mostly)

    16,7,8
    5,2
    1,3,11 (miss-typed the 3rd selection - hope that doesnt come back to bite me)
    3,7

    £3.60


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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited July 2017
    In Response to Re: Phantom's Practice Perms:
    Also doing a real life Quadpot at Chepstow based on above selections (mostly) 16,7,8 5,2 1,3,11 (miss-typed the 3rd selection - hope that doesnt come back to bite me) 3,7 £3.60
    Posted by Phantom66
    GL!
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