Was trundling along, playing OK when disaster struck with the following 3 hands in a half hour spell. I will post them on three posts with my comments attached. I hate poker, not really. I hate poker when I don't win, not really. God poker is frustrating, really.
Got it all in on the flop drawing to the nut flush and 2 over cards, would have called his turn bet anyway and still think I played this the right way, just not running well at mo. My luck will turn surely, this is what they call variance I believe.
Have been playing far too loose trying to catch the big hands. I have to realise that cash is all about a steady profit and stopp going after the big winn all the time. I have to get into my head that it is better to be £1 up on the session every day then up £40 one session and then down £20 three sessions as you keep chasing that big hit. When will I learn and take notice of this. Really have got to be more disciplined and remember i am in for the long haul and not a short term fix. I am determined that next session is the turning point. COME ON !!!!!
Much better session, never really in danger and played very solid. Had a good chat with Pod1 at tables and think this may have helped me stay focussed, so TY Pod. Majority of winning s donated to me in following hand. Could do with one of these every session.
Just played a 2 hour session and won a small amount, this is what they call grinding. No major hands to discuss but I did end up playing 1 table of NL30 along with one of NL20. Usually play 3 tables of NL20 but due to lack of players tried my hand at NL30, and have to say didn't notice any difference in standard. Need to move that BR up so I can get on NL30 asap.
Session Won £6.95 Just played a 2 hour session and won a small amount, this is what they call grinding. No major hands to discuss but I did end up playing 1 table of NL30 along with one of NL20. Usually play 3 tables of NL20 but due to lack of players tried my hand at NL30, and have to say didn't notice any difference in standard. Need to move that BR up so I can get on NL30 asap. Bankroll £228.42 Profit £28.42 Cash Profit £74.12 MTT Profit -£45.70 Posted by 68Trebor
Nice thread Trebor pleased your keeping it going, when are you planning on moving to NL30 ?
Mark, I will be looking to play nl30 when I get my roll up to £450. I know this is below the 20 buy in mark but life is a gamble and I honest;y don't think there is much diff between nl20 and nl30 level, maybe wrong we will see. Had another decent session, AA held up against villain pushing Q high flop with AQ and that is 3rd time in row my AA has held up when all in, due to have my AA busted soon then. Played one hand stupidly towards end of session, calling his raise on flop of 6,J,Q with my AK, and then calling his raise on turn of K, knew deep down he had me beat and put him on 2 pair but still made call, STUPID. Why do I do that.
Was flying for last 5 mins of session and was up £26 and then with 3 hands left to play I decided to play following hand, thinking I was unbeatable and this was a chance to put ny session winnings into the £40 bracket. Played the hand without thinking and very badly. Dohhh.
Decided to take a break from the grind of cash and played 5 MTT's tonight. Finished 10th in the £500 guarantee for £5 profit and took 2 bountys in the £1.5k BH. Never got into a really strong chip position in any of the 5 and went out in standard ways pushing when down to 6 buy ins and losing a couple of races. Despite my current MTT record I still believe I have the game to beat the MTT scene and may be tempted to play some MTT's tomorrow including the £15K BH.
i have just had a catch up, if you do choose to play BH i suggest maybe satelite in? also best of luck im running like death in MTT lately too chin up im sure your get a result soon.
Lost £15 playing cash but came 6th in £500 BH for a total of £20 with 2 heads. As tonight is my last night off until Christmas Eve due to working in a supermarket, god bless the British public who believe that all supermarkets close for a month not just for 2 days over christmas, I will be buying in direct to the £15k at 8pm.
Very strange session. Played the £15K BH and finished 75th with one head. Played solidly but I am struggling with the fast structures of Sky MTT's after playing on FT and PS where the structures were a lot slower and suited my tight game better. Then fell for the Poker10 promo and decided to try my luck. Was up about £2, playing with a £40 stack on a nl100 table and just needed to rake one more hand. Went to the flop with 99 and saw a flop of 6,7,8 and ended up all in for my £40 against villain holding Q,Q. Got my £10 bonus but it cost me £40 to get. Then had a strong session 3 tabling nl20 to pull back a lot of my losses. Been playing for 16 days and showing £4 profit. This is when I realise the rake is killing me. If I were playing on one of my other sites Bet Fair or Will Hill I would be receiving 30% RB and would be making a decent profit as a result. The only 3 things keeping me on Sky are the forum, the best I have experienced by a long way, the general community spirit at the tables, never palyed on a more friendly site where players are human and not 16 tabling robots, and the fact I might appear on ch 865, vanity is not a good thing.
You're probably already aware but you will get "Cash For Points" at the end of the month. This is Sky Poker's reward scheme for regular players - it's a rough approximation to rakeback.
Session Lost £28.14 Very strange session. Played the £15K BH and finished 75th with one head. Played solidly but I am struggling with the fast structures of Sky MTT's after playing on FT and PS where the structures were a lot slower and suited my tight game better. Then fell for the Poker10 promo and decided to try my luck. Was up about £2, playing with a £40 stack on a nl100 table and just needed to rake one more hand. Went to the flop with 99 and saw a flop of 6,7,8 and ended up all in for my £40 against villain holding Q,Q. Got my £10 bonus but it cost me £40 to get. Then had a strong session 3 tabling nl20 to pull back a lot of my losses. Been playing for 16 days and showing £4 profit. This is when I realise the rake is killing me. If I were playing on one of my other sites Bet Fair or Will Hill I would be receiving 30% RB and would be making a decent profit as a result. The only 3 things keeping me on Sky are the forum, the best I have experienced by a long way, the general community spirit at the tables, never palyed on a more friendly site where players are human and not 16 tabling robots, and the fact I might appear on ch 865, vanity is not a good thing. Bankroll £204.23 Profit -£5.77 Cash Profit £70.10 MTT Profit -£75.87 Posted by 68Trebor
Keep this up and you will be reloading soon, you obviously have no discipline
But yeah rake is a killer in the micros, a couple of weeks ago a pokersite i used to play on gave me $5 (i have no idea why) well it turned out to be a pretty good move on their part, because for a laugh i thought i would spin that fiver up into a few grand and in the last week they have had $100 rake off me lol
Cheers for the insight N1ck you are obviously a very astute guy. I am aware I have no discipline but was just making the point that RB would have helped. Mere I am aware of the cash for points offer, but thanks for the tip. The only problem at the Micro levels is that the cash for points promo is nowhere near 30% RB.
In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player. : Keep this up and you will be reloading soon, you obviously have no discipline But yeah rake is a killer in the micros, a couple of weeks ago a pokersite i used to play on gave me $5 (i have no idea why) well it turned out to be a pretty good move on their part, because for a laugh i thought i would spin that fiver up into a few grand and in the last week they have had $100 rake off me lol Posted by N1CK
ur gonna fail so hard, spewing at higher stakes and MTTs...just stick to 4 tabling 20nl and u make a silly profit. wait until you actually have a half decent roll before shorting on higher tables if u have to!
In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player. : I cant believeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it. 8 hours worth recorded on sky +, an hour into it, and we're 75 without loss. Then you write that. No point watching it now is there I'll just be waiting for the next wicket to drop !!!!!! Hope I don't run this bad all day. Posted by DOHHHHHHH
lol sorry mate but still havent said score
dont even talk to me about running(playing last night) bad!!!
What a session. Played 3 tables at nl20 for approx 3 hours and ended up with the above result. Seemed to hit everything possible and came across a couple of really big fish e.g. one pot I was all in with Q,Q, against his 8,3 for a pot of over £40. Have to say got a bit over confident for a while and probably cost myself another £25 profit. I have come to the conclusion, perhaps belatedly, and yes N1ck and Lynxeffect you are right, that this is the game I have to concentrate all my efforts on as I am good enough to make a steady profit at this level. So I will not be taking any more shots at the higher levels even if the suits at Sky dangle a carrot at me, and I will not enter any more MTT's until at least the end of Dec and then see where I am at. If only every session was like this but I realise this is the upside of variance and that I must be prepared to take the rough with the smooth.
In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player. : As simple as that eh? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa B/S. Posted by DOHHHHHHH
No its not easy mate but once i got it up to $80 i should be able to do it, i got past the playing shortstack on nl$2 without blowing up due to the bordom of it and am now playing 1 table of $6 hu sngs alongside my normal 6max game, the $5 now stands at $230 and il be moving up to $11 hu sng probably tomorrow so it should start to grow quicker now
here is graph for the 8 days been doing the hu sngs
Another successful session where I played pretty solid poker. Could have been more profitable if I can with my gut feeling in the hand below. Knew Porko was capable of his play and had a real strong feeling I had him beat but took too long to contemplate and timed out. Should have gone with my instinct, know for next time.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
DN34689
Small blind
£0.10
£0.10
£15.50
jspanner26
Big blind
£0.20
£0.30
£5.96
Your hole cards
9
10
squaddie83
Call
£0.20
£0.50
£4.24
68Trebor
Call
£0.20
£0.70
£41.31
PORKO
Raise
£0.80
£1.50
£37.25
kapax
Fold
DN34689
Fold
jspanner26
Call
£0.60
£2.10
£5.36
squaddie83
Call
£0.60
£2.70
£3.64
68Trebor
Call
£0.60
£3.30
£40.71
Flop
6
3
9
jspanner26
Check
squaddie83
Check
68Trebor
Bet
£2.48
£5.78
£38.23
PORKO
Call
£2.48
£8.26
£34.77
jspanner26
All-in
£5.36
£13.62
£0.00
squaddie83
Fold
68Trebor
Call
£2.88
£16.50
£35.35
PORKO
Call
£2.88
£19.38
£31.89
Turn
6
68Trebor
Check
PORKO
Bet
£19.38
£38.76
£12.51
68Trebor
Fold
PORKO
Unmatched bet
£19.38
£19.38
£31.89
jspanner26
Show
10
10
PORKO
Show
A
3
River
7
jspanner26
Win
Two Pairs, 10s and 6s
£18.41
Looking to really pusj on now nad get to nl30 asap. Will look to make the step up if I can get to £600.
Appear to be on a roll, long may it last. Played one really stupid hand early in the session and was then fighting to breakeven for a while. Have a tendancy to get involved in a stupid hand early in session and lose a buy on, this seems to happen a lot and it is always with stupid hands where I have no hope of winning. Don't know why I do it but need to stop it. See hand below, feel free to criticise but I know it makes no sense at all as the hand winner commented - Money laundering?
hi mate got donked outta of open with aces v k2 and lost so went o cash for a pay back. still on tilt and could only get a seat on 25/50 which as you know is a level or 2 above my usual. started off with 30 and currently on 205 so having a blinding session. when do you come off!!!!!!
hi mate got donked outta of open with aces v k2 and lost so went o cash for a pay back. still on tilt and could only get a seat on 25/50 which as you know is a level or 2 above my usual. started off with 30 and currently on 205 so having a blinding session. when do you come off!!!!!! Posted by pod1
Hi Pod - I should quit while you are ahead. Don't push your luck too far! Good luck.
Comments
Session
Lost £56.91
Was trundling along, playing OK when disaster struck with the following 3 hands in a half hour spell. I will post them on three posts with my comments attached.
I hate poker, not really. I hate poker when I don't win, not really. God poker is frustrating, really.
First Hand at 19.15
Couldn't have played it much better but one of those things, hey ho that's poker.
Second Hand at 19.18
Never put him on the FH and thought he had small pair or a 7. Probably a bit tilty.
Third Hand at 19.31
Got it all in on the flop drawing to the nut flush and 2 over cards, would have called his turn bet anyway and still think I played this the right way, just not running well at mo. My luck will turn surely, this is what they call variance I believe.
Bankroll £202.69
Profit £2.69
Cash Profit £48.39
MTT Profit -£45.70
Bankroll £202.69
Profit £2.69
Cash Profit £48.39
MTT Profit -£45.70
Session
Lost £5.82
Have been playing far too loose trying to catch the big hands. I have to realise that cash is all about a steady profit and stopp going after the big winn all the time. I have to get into my head that it is better to be £1 up on the session every day then up £40 one session and then down £20 three sessions as you keep chasing that big hit. When will I learn and take notice of this. Really have got to be more disciplined and remember i am in for the long haul and not a short term fix. I am determined that next session is the turning point. COME ON !!!!!
Bankroll £196.87
Profit -£3.13
Cash Profit £42.57
MTT Profit -£45.70
Session
Won £24.60
Much better session, never really in danger and played very solid. Had a good chat with Pod1 at tables and think this may have helped me stay focussed, so TY Pod.
Majority of winning s donated to me in following hand. Could do with one of these every session.
Profit £21.47
Cash Profit £67.17
MTT Profit -£45.70
Session
Won £6.95
Just played a 2 hour session and won a small amount, this is what they call grinding. No major hands to discuss but I did end up playing 1 table of NL30 along with one of NL20. Usually play 3 tables of NL20 but due to lack of players tried my hand at NL30, and have to say didn't notice any difference in standard. Need to move that BR up so I can get on NL30 asap.
Bankroll £228.42
Profit £28.42
Cash Profit £74.12
MTT Profit -£45.70
Session
Won £11.74
Mark, I will be looking to play nl30 when I get my roll up to £450. I know this is below the 20 buy in mark but life is a gamble and I honest;y don't think there is much diff between nl20 and nl30 level, maybe wrong we will see.
Had another decent session, AA held up against villain pushing Q high flop with AQ and that is 3rd time in row my AA has held up when all in, due to have my AA busted soon then. Played one hand stupidly towards end of session, calling his raise on flop of 6,J,Q with my AK, and then calling his raise on turn of K, knew deep down he had me beat and put him on 2 pair but still made call, STUPID. Why do I do that.
Bankroll £240.16
Profit £40.16
Cash Profit £85.86
MTT Profit -£45.70
Session
Won £5.68
Was flying for last 5 mins of session and was up £26 and then with 3 hands left to play I decided to play following hand, thinking I was unbeatable and this was a chance to put ny session winnings into the £40 bracket. Played the hand without thinking and very badly. Dohhh.
Profit £45.84
Cash Profit £91.54
MTT Proift -£45.70
Session
Lost £28.49
Decided to take a break from the grind of cash and played 5 MTT's tonight. Finished 10th in the £500 guarantee for £5 profit and took 2 bountys in the £1.5k BH. Never got into a really strong chip position in any of the 5 and went out in standard ways pushing when down to 6 buy ins and losing a couple of races. Despite my current MTT record I still believe I have the game to beat the MTT scene and may be tempted to play some MTT's tomorrow including the £15K BH.
Bankroll £217.35
Profit £17.35
Cash Profit £91.54
MTT Profit -£74.19
i have just had a catch up, if you do choose to play BH i suggest maybe satelite in? also best of luck im running like death in MTT lately too chin up im sure your get a result soon.
Session
Won £5.02
Lost £15 playing cash but came 6th in £500 BH for a total of £20 with 2 heads. As tonight is my last night off until Christmas Eve due to working in a supermarket, god bless the British public who believe that all supermarkets close for a month not just for 2 days over christmas, I will be buying in direct to the £15k at 8pm.
Bankroll £222.37
Profit £22.37
Cash Profit £76.72
MTT Profit -£54.35
Session
Lost £28.14
Very strange session. Played the £15K BH and finished 75th with one head. Played solidly but I am struggling with the fast structures of Sky MTT's after playing on FT and PS where the structures were a lot slower and suited my tight game better.
Then fell for the Poker10 promo and decided to try my luck. Was up about £2, playing with a £40 stack on a nl100 table and just needed to rake one more hand. Went to the flop with 99 and saw a flop of 6,7,8 and ended up all in for my £40 against villain holding Q,Q. Got my £10 bonus but it cost me £40 to get. Then had a strong session 3 tabling nl20 to pull back a lot of my losses.
Been playing for 16 days and showing £4 profit. This is when I realise the rake is killing me. If I were playing on one of my other sites Bet Fair or Will Hill I would be receiving 30% RB and would be making a decent profit as a result. The only 3 things keeping me on Sky are the forum, the best I have experienced by a long way, the general community spirit at the tables, never palyed on a more friendly site where players are human and
not 16 tabling robots, and the fact I might appear on ch 865, vanity is not a good thing.
Bankroll £204.23
Profit -£5.77
Cash Profit £70.10
MTT Profit -£75.87
This is Sky Poker's reward scheme for regular players - it's a rough approximation to rakeback.
See here for details.
Don't forget to enter "POINTS" in the Free Bet code before the end of the month if you haven't already done so.
But yeah rake is a killer in the micros, a couple of weeks ago a pokersite i used to play on gave me $5 (i have no idea why) well it turned out to be a pretty good move on their part, because for a laugh i thought i would spin that fiver up into a few grand and in the last week they have had $100 rake off me lol
Cheers for the insight N1ck you are obviously a very astute guy. I am aware I have no discipline but was just making the point that RB would have helped.
Mere I am aware of the cash for points offer, but thanks for the tip. The only problem at the Micro levels is that the cash for points promo is nowhere near 30% RB.
lol sorry mate but still havent said score
dont even talk to me about running(playing last night) bad!!!
Session
Won £147.46
WOW!!!!!
What a session. Played 3 tables at nl20 for approx 3 hours and ended up with the above result. Seemed to hit everything possible and came across a couple of really big fish e.g. one pot I was all in with Q,Q, against his 8,3 for a pot of over £40. Have to say got a bit over confident for a while and probably cost myself another £25 profit.
I have come to the conclusion, perhaps belatedly, and yes N1ck and Lynxeffect you are right, that this is the game I have to concentrate all my efforts on as I am good enough to make a steady profit at this level. So I will not be taking any more shots at the higher levels even if the suits at Sky dangle a carrot at me, and I will not enter any more MTT's until at least the end of Dec and then see where I am at.
If only every session was like this but I realise this is the upside of variance and that I must be prepared to take the rough with the smooth.
Bankroll £351.69
Profit £141.69
Cash Profit £217.56
MTT Profit -£75.87
here is graph for the 8 days been doing the hu sngs
Session
Won £31.08
Another successful session where I played pretty solid poker. Could have been more profitable if I can with my gut feeling in the hand below. Knew Porko was capable of his play and had a real strong feeling I had him beat but took too long to contemplate and timed out. Should have gone with my instinct, know for next time.
Bankroll £382.77
Profit £172.77
Cash Profit £248.64
MTT Profit -£75.87
Session
Won £29.84
Appear to be on a roll, long may it last. Played one really stupid hand early in the session and was then fighting to breakeven for a while. Have a tendancy to get involved in a stupid hand early in session and lose a buy on, this seems to happen a lot and it is always with stupid hands where I have no hope of winning. Don't know why I do it but need to stop it. See hand below, feel free to criticise but I know it makes no sense at all as the hand winner commented - Money laundering?
Profit £202.61
Cash Profit £278.48
MTT Profit -£75.87