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Diary of a losing recreational player.

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  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Lost £56.91

     Was trundling along, playing OK when disaster struck with the following 3 hands in a half hour spell. I will post them on three posts with my comments attached.
     I hate poker, not really. I hate poker when I don't win, not really. God poker is frustrating, really.

     
  • edited December 2010

     First Hand at 19.15

     Couldn't have played it much better but one of those things, hey ho that's poker.

     
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Louch Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £51.34
    BIGSHANN Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £25.24
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
         
    Verbal_Gym Fold     
    4pat5 Raise  £0.40 £0.70 £16.89
    68Trebor Raise  £1.00 £1.70 £30.87
    lynx3ffect Fold     
    Louch Fold     
    BIGSHANN Fold     
    4pat5 Call  £0.60 £2.30 £16.29
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 6
    • 2
         
    4pat5 Bet  £2.00 £4.30 £14.29
    68Trebor Raise  £5.00 £9.30 £25.87
    4pat5 Call  £3.00 £12.30 £11.29
    Turn
       
    • 8
         
    4pat5 Check     
    68Trebor Bet  £7.00 £19.30 £18.87
    4pat5 All-in  £11.29 £30.59 £0.00
    68Trebor Call  £4.29 £34.88 £14.58
    4pat5 Show
    • 3
    • 3
       
    68Trebor Show
    • K
    • K
       
    River
       
    • 3
         
    4pat5 Win Three 3s £33.13  £33.13
  • edited December 2010

     Second Hand at 19.18

     Never put him on the FH and thought he had small pair or a 7. Probably a bit tilty.

     
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Tycho Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £16.94
    68Trebor Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £38.98
    journeyboy Sit out     
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 9
         
    1066AVFC Fold     
    madtaff Fold     
    Verbal_Gym Raise  £0.80 £1.10 £18.80
    Tycho Fold     
    68Trebor Call  £0.60 £1.70 £38.38
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • 7
    • Q
         
    68Trebor Check     
    Verbal_Gym Bet  £1.40 £3.10 £17.40
    68Trebor Raise  £3.20 £6.30 £35.18
    Verbal_Gym Call  £1.80 £8.10 £15.60
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    68Trebor Check     
    Verbal_Gym Bet  £4.20 £12.30 £11.40
    68Trebor Call  £4.20 £16.50 £30.98
    River
       
    • K
         
    68Trebor Bet  £8.25 £24.75 £22.73
    Verbal_Gym All-in  £11.40 £36.15 £0.00
    68Trebor Call  £3.15 £39.30 £19.58
    68Trebor Show
    • 9
    • 9
       
    Verbal_Gym Show
    • 7
    • 7
       
    Verbal_Gym Win Full House, 7s and Queens £37.50  £37.50
  • edited December 2010

     Third Hand at 19.31

     Got it all in on the flop drawing to the nut flush and 2 over cards, would have called his turn bet anyway and still think I played this the right way, just not running well at mo. My luck will turn surely, this is what they call variance I believe.

     
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Verbal_Gym Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £22.61
    4pat5 Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £35.78
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
         
    68Trebor Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £21.18
    Louch Fold     
    Verbal_Gym Call  £0.50 £1.40 £22.11
    4pat5 Call  £0.40 £1.80 £35.38
    Flop
       
    • 9
    • 6
    • 5
         
    Verbal_Gym Check     
    4pat5 Bet  £0.60 £2.40 £34.78
    68Trebor Raise  £1.80 £4.20 £19.38
    Verbal_Gym Raise  £8.60 £12.80 £13.51
    4pat5 Fold     
    68Trebor All-in  £19.38 £32.18 £0.00
    Verbal_Gym All-in  £13.51 £45.69 £0.00
    Verbal_Gym Unmatched bet  £0.93 £44.76 £0.93
    Verbal_Gym Show
    • Q
    • 7
       
    68Trebor Show
    • A
    • Q
       
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    River
       
    • 8
         
    Verbal_Gym Win Flush to the Queen £42.96  £43.89




     Bankroll £202.69
     Profit £2.69
     Cash Profit £48.39
     MTT Profit -£45.70

  • edited December 2010

     Bankroll £202.69
     
    Profit £2.69
     Cash Profit £48.39
     MTT Profit -£45.70

  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Lost £5.82

     Have been playing far too loose trying to catch the big hands. I have to realise that cash is all about a steady profit and stopp going after the big winn all the time. I have to get into my head that it is better to be £1 up on the session every day then up £40 one session and then down £20 three sessions as you keep chasing that big hit. When will I learn and take notice of this. Really have got to be more disciplined and remember i am in for the long haul and not a short term fix. I am determined that next session is the turning point. COME ON !!!!!

     Bankroll £196.87
     Profit -£3.13
     Cash Profit £42.57
     MTT Profit -£45.70

  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Won £24.60

     Much better session, never really in danger and played very solid. Had a good chat with Pod1 at tables and think this may have helped me stay focussed, so TY Pod.
     Majority of winning s donated to me in following hand. Could do with one of these every session.

     
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    68Trebor Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £24.55
    johneff Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £15.06
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
         
    flick0121 Call  £0.20 £0.50 £27.54
    rawadaa16 Call  £0.20 £0.70 £16.43
    pod1 Call  £0.20 £0.90 £18.70
    ih8limpers Raise  £0.80 £1.70 £16.41
    68Trebor Raise  £1.60 £3.30 £22.95
    johneff Fold     
    flick0121 Fold     
    rawadaa16 Call  £1.50 £4.80 £14.93
    pod1 Fold     
    ih8limpers Call  £0.90 £5.70 £15.51
    Flop
       
    • K
    • 5
    • 10
         
    68Trebor Bet  £4.00 £9.70 £18.95
    rawadaa16 Fold     
    ih8limpers All-in  £15.51 £25.21 £0.00
    68Trebor All-in  £18.95 £44.16 £0.00
    68Trebor Unmatched bet  £7.44 £36.72 £7.44
    68Trebor Show
    • A
    • A
       
    ih8limpers Show
    • 8
    • K
       
    Turn
       
    • 9
         
    River
       
    • 10
         
    68Trebor Win Two Pairs, Aces and 10s £34.92  £42.36
     Bankroll £221.47
     Profit £21.47
     Cash Profit £67.17
     MTT Profit -£45.70

  • edited December 2010
    nh mate, keep going  phil
  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Won £6.95

     Just played a 2 hour session and won a small amount, this is what they call grinding. No major hands to discuss but I did end up playing 1 table of NL30 along with one of NL20. Usually play 3 tables of NL20 but due to lack of players tried my hand at NL30, and have to say didn't notice any difference in standard. Need to move that BR up so I can get on NL30 asap.

     Bankroll £228.42
     Profit £28.42
     Cash Profit £74.12
     MTT Profit -£45.70


     
  • edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player.:
      Session  Won £6.95  Just played a 2 hour session and won a small amount, this is what they call grinding. No major hands to discuss but I did end up playing 1 table of NL30 along with one of NL20. Usually play 3 tables of NL20 but due to lack of players tried my hand at NL30, and have to say didn't notice any difference in standard. Need to move that BR up so I can get on NL30 asap.   Bankroll £228.42   Profit £28.42  Cash Profit £74.12   MTT Profit -£45.70  
    Posted by 68Trebor

    Nice thread Trebor pleased your keeping it going, when are you planning on moving to NL30 ?
  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Won £11.74

     
    Mark, I will be looking to play nl30 when I get my roll up to £450. I know this is below the 20 buy in mark but life is a gamble and I honest;y don't think there is much diff between nl20 and nl30 level, maybe wrong we will see.
     Had another decent session, AA held up against villain pushing Q high flop with AQ and that is 3rd time in row my AA has held up when all in, due to have my AA busted soon then. Played one hand stupidly towards end of session, calling his raise on flop of 6,J,Q with my AK, and then calling his raise on turn of K, knew deep down he had me beat and put him on 2 pair but still made call, STUPID. Why do I do that.

     Bankroll £240.16
     Profit £40.16
     Cash Profit £85.86
     MTT Profit -£45.70


     
  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Won £5.68
     
     
    Was flying for last 5 mins of session and was up £26 and then with 3 hands left to play I decided to play following hand, thinking I was unbeatable and this was a chance to put ny session winnings into the £40 bracket. Played the hand without thinking and very badly. Dohhh.

     
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    68Trebor Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £39.79
    Frogmella Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £7.68
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
         
    Loosifer Fold     
    smudge184 Raise  £0.80 £1.10 £20.79
    68Trebor Raise  £1.40 £2.50 £38.39
    Frogmella Fold     
    smudge184 Call  £0.70 £3.20 £20.09
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 6
    • 7
         
    68Trebor Check     
    smudge184 Check     
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    68Trebor Bet  £2.40 £5.60 £35.99
    smudge184 Call  £2.40 £8.00 £17.69
    River
       
    • A
         
    68Trebor Bet  £4.00 £12.00 £31.99
    smudge184 All-in  £17.69 £29.69 £0.00
    68Trebor Call  £13.69 £43.38 £18.30
    68Trebor Show
    • K
    • A
       
    smudge184 Show
    • A
    • Q
       
    smudge184 Win Flush to the Ace
     Bankroll £245.84
     Profit £45.84
     Cash Profit £91.54
     MTT Proift -£45.70

  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Lost £28.49

     
    Decided to take a break from the grind of cash and played 5 MTT's tonight. Finished 10th in the £500 guarantee for £5 profit and took 2 bountys in the £1.5k BH. Never got into a really strong chip position in any of the 5 and went out in standard ways pushing when down to 6 buy ins and losing a couple of races. Despite my current MTT record I still believe I have the game to beat the MTT scene and may be tempted to play some MTT's tomorrow including the £15K BH.

     Bankroll £217.35
     Profit £17.35
     Cash Profit £91.54
     MTT Profit -£74.19

  • edited December 2010
    Hi trebor, thanks for continue to update

    i have just had a catch up, if you do choose to play BH i suggest maybe satelite in? also best of luck im running like death in MTT lately too chin up im sure your get a result soon.
  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Won £5.02

     Lost £15 playing cash but came 6th in £500 BH for a total of £20 with 2 heads. As tonight is my last night off until Christmas Eve due to working in a supermarket, god bless the British public who believe that all supermarkets close for a month not just for 2 days over christmas, I will be buying in direct to the £15k at 8pm. 

     Bankroll £222.37
     Profit £22.37
     Cash Profit £76.72
     MTT Profit -£54.35


  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Lost £28.14

     Very strange session. Played the £15K BH and finished 75th with one head. Played solidly but I am struggling with the fast structures of Sky MTT's after playing on FT and PS where the structures were a lot slower and suited my tight game better.
     Then fell for the Poker10 promo and decided to try my luck. Was up about £2, playing with a £40 stack on a nl100 table and just needed to rake one more hand. Went to the flop with 99 and saw a flop of 6,7,8 and ended up all in for my £40 against villain holding Q,Q. Got my £10 bonus but it cost me £40 to get. Then had a strong session 3 tabling nl20 to pull back a lot of my losses.
     Been playing for 16 days and showing £4 profit. This is when I realise the rake is killing me. If I were playing on one of my other sites Bet Fair or Will Hill I would be receiving 30% RB and would be making a decent profit as a result. The only 3 things keeping me on Sky are the forum, the best I have experienced by a long way, the general community spirit at the tables, never palyed on a more friendly site where players are human and
    not 16 tabling robots, and the fact I might appear on ch 865, vanity is not a good thing.

     Bankroll £204.23
     Profit -£5.77
     Cash Profit £70.10
     MTT Profit -£75.87



  • edited December 2010
    You're probably already aware but you will get "Cash For Points" at the end of the month.
    This is Sky Poker's reward scheme for regular players - it's a rough approximation to rakeback.

    See here for details.

    Don't forget to enter "POINTS" in the Free Bet code before the end of the month if you haven't already done so.
  • edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player.:
      Session  Lost £28.14  Very strange session. Played the £15K BH and finished 75th with one head. Played solidly but I am struggling with the fast structures of Sky MTT's after playing on FT and PS where the structures were a lot slower and suited my tight game better.  Then fell for the Poker10 promo and decided to try my luck. Was up about £2, playing with a £40 stack on a nl100 table and just needed to rake one more hand. Went to the flop with 99 and saw a flop of 6,7,8 and ended up all in for my £40 against villain holding Q,Q. Got my £10 bonus but it cost me £40 to get. Then had a strong session 3 tabling nl20 to pull back a lot of my losses.  Been playing for 16 days and showing £4 profit. This is when I realise the rake is killing me. If I were playing on one of my other sites Bet Fair or Will Hill I would be receiving 30% RB and would be making a decent profit as a result. The only 3 things keeping me on Sky are the forum, the best I have experienced by a long way, the general community spirit at the tables, never palyed on a more friendly site where players are human and not 16 tabling robots, and the fact I might appear on ch 865, vanity is not a good thing.   Bankroll £204.23  Profit -£5.77  Cash Profit £70.10   MTT Profit -£75.87
    Posted by 68Trebor
    Keep this up and you will be reloading soon, you obviously have no discipline

    But yeah rake is a killer in the micros, a couple of weeks ago a pokersite i used to play on gave me $5 (i have no idea why) well it turned out to be a pretty good move on their part, because for a laugh i thought i would spin that fiver up into a few grand and in the last week they have had $100 rake off me lol
  • edited December 2010
     
     Cheers for the insight N1ck you are obviously a very astute guy. I am aware I have no discipline but was just making the point that RB would have helped.
     Mere I am aware of the cash for points offer, but thanks for the tip. The only problem at the Micro levels is that the cash for points promo is nowhere near 30% RB.
     
  • edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player.:
    In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player. : Keep this up and you will be reloading soon, you obviously have no discipline But yeah rake is a killer in the micros, a couple of weeks ago a pokersite i used to play on gave me $5 (i have no idea why) well it turned out to be a pretty good move on their part, because for a laugh i thought i would spin that fiver up into a few grand and in the last week they have had $100 rake off me lol
    Posted by N1CK

    As simple as that eh? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    B/S.
  • edited December 2010
    lol god morning JJ, cricket not going soo good
  • edited December 2010
    ur gonna fail so hard, spewing at higher stakes and MTTs...just stick to 4 tabling 20nl and u make a silly profit. wait until you actually have a half decent roll before shorting on higher tables if u have to!
  • edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player.:
    lol god morning JJ, cricket not going soo good
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    I cant believeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it.

    8 hours worth recorded on sky +, an hour into it, and we're 75 without loss.

    Then you write that.

    No point watching it now is there I'll just be waiting for the next wicket to drop !!!!!!

    Hope I don't run this bad all day.
  • edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player.:
    In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player. : I cant believeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it. 8 hours worth recorded on sky +, an hour into it, and we're 75 without loss. Then you write that. No point watching it now is there I'll just be waiting for the next wicket to drop !!!!!! Hope I don't run this bad all day.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    lol sorry mate but still havent said score :p

    dont even talk to me about running(playing last night) bad!!!
  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Won £147.46

     
    WOW!!!!!

     What a session. Played  3 tables at nl20 for approx 3 hours and ended up with the above result. Seemed to hit everything possible and came across a couple of really big fish e.g. one pot I was all in with Q,Q, against his 8,3 for a pot of over £40. Have to say got a bit over confident for a while and probably cost myself another £25 profit.
     I have come to the conclusion, perhaps belatedly, and yes N1ck and Lynxeffect you are right, that this is the game I have to concentrate all my efforts on as I am good enough to make a steady profit at this level. So I will not be taking any more shots at the higher levels even if the suits at Sky dangle a carrot at me, and I will not enter any more MTT's until at least the end of Dec and then see where I am at.
     If only every session was like this but I realise this is the upside of variance and that I must be prepared to take the rough with the smooth.

     Bankroll £351.69
     Profit £141.69
     Cash Profit £217.56
     MTT Profit -£75.87

  • edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player.:
    In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player. : As simple as that eh? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa B/S.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    No its not easy mate but once i got it up to $80 i should be able to do it, i got past the playing shortstack on nl$2 without blowing up due to the bordom of it and am now playing 1 table of $6 hu sngs alongside my normal 6max game, the $5 now stands at $230 and il be moving up to $11 hu sng probably tomorrow so it should start to grow quicker now


    here is graph for the 8 days been doing the hu sngs
  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Won £31.08

     
    Another successful session where I played pretty solid poker. Could have been more profitable if I can with my gut feeling in the hand below. Knew Porko was capable of his play and had a real strong feeling I had him beat but took too long to contemplate and timed out. Should have gone with my instinct, know for next time.

     
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    DN34689 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £15.50
    jspanner26 Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £5.96
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 10
         
    squaddie83 Call  £0.20 £0.50 £4.24
    68Trebor Call  £0.20 £0.70 £41.31
    PORKO Raise  £0.80 £1.50 £37.25
    kapax Fold     
    DN34689 Fold     
    jspanner26 Call  £0.60 £2.10 £5.36
    squaddie83 Call  £0.60 £2.70 £3.64
    68Trebor Call  £0.60 £3.30 £40.71
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 3
    • 9
         
    jspanner26 Check     
    squaddie83 Check     
    68Trebor Bet  £2.48 £5.78 £38.23
    PORKO Call  £2.48 £8.26 £34.77
    jspanner26 All-in  £5.36 £13.62 £0.00
    squaddie83 Fold     
    68Trebor Call  £2.88 £16.50 £35.35
    PORKO Call  £2.88 £19.38 £31.89
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    68Trebor Check     
    PORKO Bet  £19.38 £38.76 £12.51
    68Trebor Fold     
    PORKO Unmatched bet  £19.38 £19.38 £31.89
    jspanner26 Show
    • 10
    • 10
       
    PORKO Show
    • A
    • 3
       
    River
       
    • 7
         
    jspanner26 Win Two Pairs, 10s and 6s £18.41
     Looking to really pusj on now nad get to nl30 asap. Will look to make the step up if I can get to £600.

     Bankroll £382.77
     Profit £172.77
     Cash Profit £248.64
     MTT Profit -£75.87

  • edited December 2010

     Session
     Won £29.84

     
    Appear to be on a roll, long may it last. Played one really stupid hand early in the session and was then fighting to breakeven for a while. Have a tendancy to get involved in a stupid hand early in session and lose a buy on, this seems to happen a lot and it is always with stupid hands where I have no hope of winning. Don't know why I do it but need to stop it. See hand below, feel free to criticise but I know it makes no sense at all as the hand winner commented - Money laundering?

     
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    DN34689 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £23.10
    ROCKYCASH Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £10.50
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • J
         
    68Trebor Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £16.91
    dexter61 Fold     
    halenpace Fold     
    Killerpea Call  £0.60 £1.50 £31.13
    DN34689 Fold     
    ROCKYCASH Call  £0.40 £1.90 £10.10
    Flop
       
    • J
    • 8
    • K
         
    ROCKYCASH Bet  £0.20 £2.10 £9.90
    68Trebor Call  £0.20 £2.30 £16.71
    Killerpea Raise  £2.08 £4.38 £29.05
    ROCKYCASH Fold     
    68Trebor Call  £1.88 £6.26 £14.83
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    68Trebor Check     
    Killerpea Bet  £4.70 £10.96 £24.35
    68Trebor Raise  £9.80 £20.76 £5.03
    Killerpea All-in  £24.35 £45.11 £0.00
    68Trebor All-in  £5.03 £50.14 £0.00
    Killerpea Unmatched bet  £14.22 £35.92 £14.22
    68Trebor Show
    • A
    • J
       
    Killerpea Show
    • A
    • 4
       
    River
       
    • 8
         
    Killerpea Win Flush to the Ace £34.12  £48.34
     Bankroll £412.61
     Profit £202.61
     Cash Profit £278.48
     MTT Profit -£75.87

  • edited December 2010
    hi mate got donked outta of open with aces v k2 and lost so went o cash for a pay back. still on tilt and could only get a seat on 25/50 which as you know is a level or 2 above my usual. started off with 30 and currently on 205 so having a blinding session. when do you come off!!!!!!
  • edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Diary of a losing recreational player.:
    hi mate got donked outta of open with aces v k2 and lost so went o cash for a pay back. still on tilt and could only get a seat on 25/50 which as you know is a level or 2 above my usual. started off with 30 and currently on 205 so having a blinding session. when do you come off!!!!!!
    Posted by pod1
    Hi Pod - I should quit while you are ahead.  Don't push your luck too far!   Good luck.
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