These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

you are being daft debs. The burden of proof is on the people who have doubts. Not the people who trust.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I think not my friend,do you remember the post i made a while back? the post concerning you will only ever see 33% of the cards in any deal on a 6 handed table? AND it is 60/40 in favour of the cards between 2 and 9? The exact maths equat to the FLOP TURN and RIVER as well,soz dohhh but MOST of these deals ARE only generated for action due to the very very low traffic on this site,it HAS to rely on lots of action OR the site simply could NOT survive.

DOHHHHHHH

I don't think they're trying to survive, they're trying to expand, and become big in the world of poker.

Why would sky as a business, set up a poker site, just to survive in the market.

They wanna be big.....

Just look at the number of professional players on here....???

achill

Sorry to see u go denis, u did a lot of good work in the forum.

Interesting thread, read all the posts and definitely something to think about.

Looking at primo tonight, 2000 chips, 15 minute blinds and after 50 minutes blinds 30/60 100 players out of 302 are out.

Are there that many bad players on here with £55 to burn or are they being dealt cards they feel they have to play?

I do have an account on ft which i opened in a moment of anger after one to many bad beats on here but have never used.

May deposit and play on there for 3 months to earn the bonus and see if its any different to here.

Be lucky.   

unknown_username

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now. : no but they generate the action - if you fail to at least understand that point then I give up i'll prob play over a thousand sit n go's on here this month, and at least that amount on another site too (in an ideal world I wouldn't have to, but Sky's traffic ain't great) how many hands that equates to I don't know. but I can honestly say that I don't think there's any difference, apart from the standard is higher elsewhere
Posted by SHANXTA

There is a difference in action and action hands. I see more big hand confrontations on here than anywhere else. 

If you're playing that many tables your not going to see much of the hands you're not involved in. 

DOHHHHHHH

But you have seen less than 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 % of hands here

And less than

0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of hands there

DOHHHHHHH

(10 million zeros on the here one)

(100m zeros on the "there" one)

unknown_username

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

(10 million zeros on the here one) (100m zeros on the "there" one)
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

What's that got to do with the price of kippers.

DOHHHHHHH

Ahhhh I dunno.

Nobody has responded to my point about the people who make a living by playing on sky.

Some of whom, have resigned from their jobs to do so......

How could they do this, if they had any doubts about it's validity?

unknown_username

I can't speak for any of them personally but most poker players exist because of the rake. 

It would be interesting to see how many of them would be on here if Tikay retired. In fact it would be interesting to see the site numbers if that happened. Whatever they pay him it's probably not enough.

SHANXTA

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now. : There is a difference in action and action hands. I see more big hand confrontations on here than anywhere else.  If you're playing that many tables your not going to see much of the hands you're not involved in. 
Posted by elsadog

i only play 4-6 tables

poor players normally results in more players to the flop with 'junk' hands, if these hands were not still in, then alot of flops would contain less 'action cards'

unknown_username

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now. : i only play 4-6 tables poor players normally results in more players to the flop with 'junk' hands, if these hands were not still in, then alot of flops would contain less 'action cards'
Posted by SHANXTA

I think when people are referring to action cards they mean the ones with a lot of paint on them.

donkeyplop

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

I can't speak for any of them personally but most poker players exist because of the rake.  It would be interesting to see how many of them would be on here if Tikay retired. In fact it would be interesting to see the site numbers if that happened. Whatever they pay him it's probably not enough.
Posted by elsadog

Seriously??

I have played for about 7 hours today over 2 tables and ive seen nothing out of the ordinary atall.

I'm sorry but I just don't get all the paranoia??

GaryQQQ

Here's another one for those of you who think everything is rosy over at PokerStars.

PokerStars Game #58031320716: Tournament #367168381, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2011/02/21 12:28:51 WET [2011/02/21 7:28:51 ET]
Table '367168381 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: janis777 (1470 in chips)
Seat 2: GaryQQQ (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: respawnua (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: kalkerjung82 (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: qqnamunew (1530 in chips)
Seat 6: zorrispok (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Misterzwavy (1630 in chips)
Seat 8: Poolboy1986 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: tonkaaaa (1440 in chips)
qqnamunew: posts small blind 10
zorrispok: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GaryQQQ [Kc Ks]
Misterzwavy: calls 20
Poolboy1986: folds
tonkaaaa: folds
janis777: calls 20
GaryQQQ: raises 200 to 220
respawnua: calls 220
kalkerjung82: folds
qqnamunew: folds
zorrispok: folds
Misterzwavy: folds
janis777: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc Jc Kd]
GaryQQQ: bets 480
respawnua: raises 735 to 1215
GaryQQQ: raises 55 to 1270 and is all-in
respawnua: calls 35 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (20) returned to GaryQQQ
*** TURN *** [Tc Jc Kd] [As]
*** RIVER *** [Tc Jc Kd As] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GaryQQQ: shows [Kc Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
respawnua: shows [Qs Ad] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
respawnua collected 3010 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3010 | Rake 0
Board [Tc Jc Kd As 7h]
Seat 1: janis777 folded before Flop
Seat 2: GaryQQQ showed [Kc Ks] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 3: respawnua showed [Qs Ad] and won (3010) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 4: kalkerjung82 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: qqnamunew (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: zorrispok (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Misterzwavy folded before Flop
Seat 8: Poolboy1986 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tonkaaaa folded before Flop (didn't bet)

bullyfish

just come back from pokerstars where site i s superb, bad beats yeah but nowhere near as many as on here, just played 2 games on here as i was starting to doubt myself, but it all came flooding back, AA cracked obviously and K9 losing to Q10 and flopped 2 sets which both lost to runner runner flushes, the game will be up soon im sure, not saying any presenters are crooks but its the software that can be cranked up(like a fruit machine) at will to create action and more money moving means more rake, faster you leave a tourney the quicker you on another table etc etc etc, good riddance

GaryQQQ

And another

PokerStars Game #58033188087: Tournament #367176005, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2011/02/21 13:26:44 WET [2011/02/21 8:26:44 ET]
Table '367176005 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: IVAN987654 (2210 in chips)
Seat 2: Imbapokah (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: ButterflyEFT (2745 in chips)
Seat 4: GaryQQQ (1960 in chips)
Seat 6: esepelopo (4710 in chips)
Seat 7: Marmilad (1680 in chips)
Seat 8: gkirk87 (6025 in chips)
Seat 9: AAjirinaKK (1145 in chips)
gkirk87: posts small blind 100
AAjirinaKK: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GaryQQQ [Js Jc]
IVAN987654: raises 2010 to 2210 and is all-in
Imbapokah: folds
ButterflyEFT: folds
GaryQQQ: calls 1960 and is all-in
esepelopo: folds
Marmilad: folds
gkirk87: folds
AAjirinaKK: folds
Uncalled bet (250) returned to IVAN987654
*** FLOP *** [Kh Qs 3d]
*** TURN *** [Kh Qs 3d] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [Kh Qs 3d Th] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IVAN987654: shows [Tc Td] (a full house, Tens full of Queens)
GaryQQQ: shows [Js Jc] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
IVAN987654 collected 4220 from pot
GaryQQQ finished the tournament in 76th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4220 | Rake 0
Board [Kh Qs 3d Th Qh]
Seat 1: IVAN987654 showed [Tc Td] and won (4220) with a full house, Tens full of Queens
Seat 2: Imbapokah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ButterflyEFT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: GaryQQQ showed [Js Jc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 6: esepelopo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Marmilad (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: gkirk87 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: AAjirinaKK (big blind) folded before Flop

MAXALLY

Sorry Gary but I think you are just posting coolers here.

KK v AQ & JJ v 10 10 is just standard tbh. Hardly mind blowing bad beats that seem to be occuring on here at a greater frequency compared with other sites, which is essentially what this thread is about.

Perhaps you could start your own thread like DJ's and post your coolers on there )

unknown_username

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

And another PokerStars Game #58033188087: Tournament #367176005, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2011/02/21 13:26:44 WET [2011/02/21 8:26:44 ET] Table '367176005 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: IVAN987654 (2210 in chips) Seat 2: Imbapokah (1490 in chips) Seat 3: ButterflyEFT (2745 in chips) Seat 4: GaryQQQ (1960 in chips) Seat 6: esepelopo (4710 in chips) Seat 7: Marmilad (1680 in chips) Seat 8: gkirk87 (6025 in chips) Seat 9: AAjirinaKK (1145 in chips) gkirk87: posts small blind 100 AAjirinaKK: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to GaryQQQ [Js Jc] IVAN987654: raises 2010 to 2210 and is all-in Imbapokah: folds ButterflyEFT: folds GaryQQQ: calls 1960 and is all-in esepelopo: folds Marmilad: folds gkirk87: folds AAjirinaKK: folds Uncalled bet (250) returned to IVAN987654 *** FLOP *** [Kh Qs 3d] *** TURN *** [Kh Qs 3d] [Th] *** RIVER *** [Kh Qs 3d Th] [Qh] *** SHOW DOWN *** IVAN987654: shows [Tc Td] (a full house, Tens full of Queens) GaryQQQ: shows [Js Jc] (two pair, Queens and Jacks) IVAN987654 collected 4220 from pot GaryQQQ finished the tournament in 76th place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 4220 | Rake 0 Board [Kh Qs 3d Th Qh] Seat 1: IVAN987654 showed [Tc Td] and won (4220) with a full house, Tens full of Queens Seat 2: Imbapokah folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: ButterflyEFT folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: GaryQQQ showed [Js Jc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks Seat 6: esepelopo folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Marmilad (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: gkirk87 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: AAjirinaKK (big blind) folded before Flop
Posted by GaryQQQ

You've been doomswitched on Stars!  LOL

GaryQQQ

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

Sorry Gary but I think you are just posting coolers here. Posted by MAXALLY

This thread is about 'action hands'. Some people seem to think they're standard fare on Sky, yet rarely seen on PokerStars. Well they don't really come any better than flopping KJT when the hole cards are KK and AQ!

GaryQQQ

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now. : You've been doomswitched on Stars!  LOL
Posted by elsadog

Yep, here too, I can't win a key hand on either site, as demonstrated by the hand below on the money bubble of a bounty hunter tournament this afternoon.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
willie	Small blind		200.00	200.00	24475.00
potter55	Big blind		400.00	600.00	1057.50
	Your hole cards	A 7
tiberius23	Fold
GaryQQQ	Raise		1458.00	2058.00	8452.00
willie	Fold
potter55	All-in		1057.50	3115.50	0.00
GaryQQQ	Unmatched bet		0.50	3115.00	8452.50
potter55	Show	A 6
GaryQQQ	Show	A 7
Flop
		A J 10
Turn
		J
River
		3
potter55	Win	Flush to the Ace	3115.00		3115.00

I managed to get second place (albeit with with no bounties), my best result for a few days, but look what happened on the final hand;

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
GaryQQQ	Small blind		600.00	600.00	10702.50
willie	Big blind		1200.00	1800.00	67822.50
	Your hole cards	A A
tiberius23	All-in		9675.00	11475.00	0.00
GaryQQQ	All-in		10702.50	22177.50	0.00
willie	Call		10102.50	32280.00	57720.00
GaryQQQ	Show	A A
willie	Show	10 K
tiberius23	Show	2 2
Flop
		K 10 3
Turn
		5
River
		8
willie	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 10s	32280.00

DOHHHHHHH

Search on youtube for "Poker stars rigged for action."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWJD4OWFUkA&feature=related

^^^^^Theres 50 vids in the series.

It seems they have their own elsadog. Im searching for their version of debdobs atm.....

unknown_username

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now. : Here too, I can't win a key hand on either site!
Posted by GaryQQQ

It's just adverse variance m8.   )

DOHHHHHHH

lol, look at this idiot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWM-jxYHtIU&feature=related

unknown_username

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

Search on youtube for "Poker stars rigged for action." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWJD4OWFUkA&feature=related ^^^^^Theres 50 vids in the series. It seems they have their own elsadog. Im searching for their version of debdobs atm.....
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

He's an imposter and an amateur ......... I'm the real deal

Interestingly along with Full Tilt they use Alderney GCC.  

GaryQQQ

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now. : It's just adverse variance m8.   )
Posted by elsadog

Nah, punishment for making that video I reckon.

unknown_username

In Response to Re: These regular action hands, its all starting to look a bit siily now.:

just come back from pokerstars where site i s superb, bad beats yeah but nowhere near as many as on here, just played 2 games on here as i was starting to doubt myself, but it all came flooding back, AA cracked obviously and K9 losing to Q10 and flopped 2 sets which both lost to runner runner flushes, the game will be up soon im sure, not saying any presenters are crooks but its the software that can be cranked up(like a fruit machine) at will to create action and more money moving means more rake, faster you leave a tourney the quicker you on another table etc etc etc, good riddance
Posted by bullyfish

you dont have to load another table,you can quite easily log off and go to aNother site,simples really

AMYBR

Heres a fun hand at FT

Blind on Blind with a raise:

my 44

Flop comes QQ4. 

Guy bets into me, I call

QQ4  Q

Dont like it, guy bets into me again, I call.

QQ4Q   7

I check he checks back and flips 27.  How often do you see 27 crack a flopped boat? pretty darn sick

oynutter

theres so much stupid min raising going on here atm-- blinds 10/20-- loads of idiots min raising at these blinds with AA--- flopwit stupid it is!!!!!--- I just stacked someone with 6-9  suited in bb because of it

donkeyplop

To balance out my side here's a good one for you guys.............

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
revieyears	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£30.39
haidyboy	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£19.80
	Your hole cards	4 4
DN34689	Fold
donkeyplop	Raise		£0.60	£0.90	£25.74
daz29	Fold
Wengene	Fold
revieyears	Call		£0.50	£1.40	£29.89
haidyboy	Fold
Flop
		6 4 J
revieyears	Check
donkeyplop	Bet		£1.40	£2.80	£24.34
revieyears	Call		£1.40	£4.20	£28.49
Turn
		3
revieyears	Bet		£2.10	£6.30	£26.39
donkeyplop	Raise		£8.40	£14.70	£15.94
revieyears	Raise		£12.60	£27.30	£13.79
donkeyplop	All-in		£15.94	£43.24	£0.00
revieyears	Call		£9.64	£52.88	£4.15
revieyears	Show	6 6
donkeyplop	Show	4 4
River
		A
revieyears	Win	Three 6s	£51.08		£55.23

BANDICOOT

Seen some real doozies today - my favourite being 3 players hitting their flush on the turn. Luckily I wasn't In the hand.

Stuporman

Yes, it does seem amazing how every time you have top pair or a set and there are (say) two hearts on the flop, you bet out, they call, the turn is another heart, and lo and behold they have two hearts. To turn a 9 outer is a little worse than 4/1, but there's simply no way it comes 1 in 5. More like 9 in 10. Maybe it's what they call variance, so in the long run it should level out.