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  • edited August 2013
    back to £15 up
  • edited August 2013
    Hi all

    Here are tomorrows.

    iiii -Integral 6-4 -  3.15 Sandown - This horse was very impressive winning twicve befor e being stepped up in class and distance last time. Michael Stoute has won this 3 times in last seven years and this filly could be higher class than this race. Another winner.

    iii - Handsome Man 8-1 -chester 3.30 - Another horse that I hope was tried to high and too long last time after two good second places. also groud likely to have been against him. Very hard race but price reflects that. Finished third and sun central a deserving winner.

    ii- Indian Trail 16-1 - 3.05 Beverley - Horse who likes this track and has been ridden for a good handicap rating except for his second two races ago when he was a bit unlucky. This race his last and it is named after him. Apprentice also taking 7lb off and stablemate might set race up for him. Been backed frpom 25-1 and hoping for fairytale end to his career. Missed break and then got intwerference when making his forward move. Finished well in 5th. Unlucky not to be placed.

    i- Burning Thread -6-1 Sandown 2.05 - Handicap mark dropped and ran good second last time out. Good draw and hopeful he can win at a course/Distance he has won  on before. Never in any danger and nice 7-1 winner. 

    Also fancy

    3.50 Sandown -Sennockian Star 11-2 4th , Im sure the bookies pay trainers to take horses out of 16 runner handicaps. Place trteble goes down!!!!!and Chapter Seven 14-1
    2.30 Beverley - Would like to See Borderlescott win again but fancy Inxile might be nearly back to his best and at 14-1 good price. Went out to 28-1 and I was hoping he would reverse form with Stepper Point from last time, he didnt but Stepper Point won and mine should have been closer. 
    2.20 Chester - Thought at first Doctor Parkes was the one, see what Burning Thread does who came 2nd to him last time. However gone for New Fforest 4-1 -found a little trouble in running second but no chance with winner

    2.55 Chester - Again thought Alexandro who has been backed in from 7-1 to 5-1 but stablemate Brea Hill 9-1 much better handicapped and has jockey who rode Alexandro to his last two wins. Both course winners, both well drawn and owner of Brae Hill loves winners here. Lost chance at stalls and finished well to be second. Watch for him next time

    Good Luck all
  • edited August 2013
    2 winners so back to £20 up.

    Day pretty good with 3 placed horses as well and an unlucky 4th and 5th
  • edited September 2013
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 20/10:
    Of course you can joesman. As to my earlier comment that I am putting up the picks to early, well perhaps not as my advice for Cesarawitch day came a week later :- iii - Olympiad 12-1 - 3.35 Newmarket- OK Countrywide Flame looks thrown in but I have a strong fancy for this Dermot Weld horse who won the 2 miler at the EBor meeting and this trainer is very good at stealing good prizes all over the world. In the Ces Trail the Irish Horse Domination destroyed the field and I have a feeling the Irish horses are going to run well in this and Weld's horse is my pick. Travelled well for a mile, pity this race over 2miles. Well done to Aimmtoprosper 66-1 winner. two winners at Ascot a week later LOL
    Posted by vaigret
    MY TIP FOR THIS YEARS CESAREWITCH DOMINATION
  • edited September 2013
    I have never fancied so many horses so strongly as I do this week in what are a number of very competitive races. So therefore they wont win but here goes!!!!

    iiii - 3.50 Haydock  -Gordon Lord Byron 9-2 - Got jockey of season Johnnie murtagh on board and was second in this last year. Sure he will go one better after good win last time and ground will be in his favour compared to Lethal Force who he finished 3rd to the race before. Won easily in ground he loved and well done Johnnie 

    iii- 2.05 Haydock - Prohibit 14-1 - Former group 1 horse whose weight has plemmeted in handicaps and three years since rated this low. Wont mind the ground and third last time behind Stepper Point who won the bullet last week. looked like he hated every moment, ground or finished as a top horse.? 

    ii- 4.40 Ascot -Cosseted 5-1 - Fanshawe can find improving fillies and I think he has another here. Won a lot easier than margin suggested last time  and second has won since. bottom weight getting lot of weight from Forgive. NR

    i- 3.30 Ascot -Special Meaning 5-1 - Going for a five timer and sixth win out of seven. Improving filly who I hope hasnt stopped improving. Swamped at the end , one step to far.
    Also fancy

    Kempton
    2.20 Robin Hoods Bay 12-1 loser
    2.55 Ehtedaam 4-1 didnt get into it
    Choral Prince 4.45 10-1 lost

    Haydock
    2.40 Haydock Nine Realms 9-1 not good enough
    3.15 Tropical Beat 8-1 NR
    5.30 Nearly Caught 4-1 Winner

    1.55 Ascot  old friend and course sspecialist Excellent Guest 28-1 baulked as he made move but unlikely to have won
    Thirsk 2.00 especially for joesman

    Waking Warrior 10-1 loser
  • edited September 2013
    Good luck all over the next week or two.

    Off to Russia on my holibobs.

    You will be "pleased" to know normal service will be resumed on my return
  • edited September 2013
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 31/8/2013:
    Good luck all over the next week or two. Off to Russia on my holibobs. You will be "pleased" to know normal service will be resumed on my return
    Posted by vaigret
    Have a good holiday,will miss you and your valuable contributions.
  • edited September 2013
    Just thought I woulkd let you know that there is no get out stakes for Fraygrance.

    Injured herself in her box and wont run again EVER.
  • edited September 2013
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 31/8/2013:
    Just thought I woulkd let you know that there is no get out stakes for Fraygrance. Injured herself in her box and wont run again EVER.
    Posted by vaigret
    Sad news!
  • edited September 2013
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 31/8/2013:
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 31/8/2013 : Sad news!
    Posted by wynne1938
    very wynne but might have saved us some money
  • edited September 2013
    My ratings for tomorrow.

    iiii - Berkshire 2pm Newm - Evens - This has to be my four star as already backed it for classics next year. If it is good as I think it is EVENS is one brilliant price. 11-8 an even better price although the performance didnt stand out. Even so think he will ,improve further over the winter and not ripping up my classic ante posts yet. Ground will probably be better for him in 2000 as well.  


    iii- Bronze Angel 3.50 Newm - 20-1 -As the rest of my ratings are shortish prices had to put this in. Won race last year and goes well fresh. Only 6lb higher and the horses it beat in this last year have shot up the ratings. also Bancnuhearien who it beat into fourth won Silver Cambridgeshire easily yesterday. I think this horse is much better than its current rating and proved over C/D. Didnt get into it
    Chapter Seven-20-1-laid out for this and running in better races all year is the danger NR so change to Educate. Winner 12-1
     

    ii- Sky Lantern 3.10 Newmarket -13-8 - One of the unluckiest horses lately , she should come back and defeat old rival Elusive Kate on track where she won guineas. 7-4 winner easily and showed she was robbed last time with Elusive Kate. Hughes learnt which side to come as well.

    i- Kiyoshi -2.35 Newm -5-2 - Been working well with yesterdays winner Cassellian and should put blip of last time behind her today. Firmly put into her place by a very good french filly.

    Also fancy

    Burning Thread 8-1 3.30 Haydock Drawn wrong side
    Grandads Horse 12-1 2.50 Market Rasen. Tapped for toe half way and ran on again at end but leaders well gone by then

    Good luck all 
  • edited September 2013
    Another winning day

    £25 up
  • edited October 2013
    Slightly different this week as one I strongly fancy too many Godophin runners ie

    1.50 Newmarket -Wedding ring 5-2 easy winner always in control and 11-4 a bonus
    2.40 ascot -Royal empire 7-2  -2nd picked the wrong Godolphin and the ground didnt help. should have known de sousa on the better horse.
    3.30 Redcar -Emirates Flyer 7-1 ran a great race in second

    and also I have a dark horse that I tipped up somewhere on this site but cant find now:-

    Take Cover 33-1 1.30 Ascot- Ok after I tipped it has since run badly in the Ayr Silver Cup when favourite and it hasnt won over 5f but I think Ascot will suit it, taken out so watch next time if it doesnt then Free Zone 10-1 will win. Free Zone 4th and more money from the bookies for the Trainers Christmas box. If they are not paid to reduce races to 15 horses I will eat my hat.

    with those out the way it leaves me with the following for my ratings-

    iiii- Big Johnny D 7-1 -3.50 Ascot - ok up in class but this horse has won easily three times and I think he is still on upgrade, hopefully he can win this. Not in the class of these

    iii - Hoof It 11-1 - 3.15 Ascot - Good form from third behind Gordon Lord Byron then ran respectably in Ayr Gold Cup. Deserves to win one this year and hopefully this is it. WHAT A SURPRISE 3 HORSES TAKEN OUT TO MAKE 15 AGAIN. 3RD AND ON FORM SHOULD HAVE BEATEN TROPICS BUT THAT HORSE SHOWED AYR gOLD cUP RUN ALL WRONG.

    ii - Hey chewed 9-1 -2.05 Ascot - Won last time out and hoping this is still on upgrade as well. Nowhere , winner very impressive

    i- Ensuring 12-1 2.20 Newmarket -classy race but this horse won easier than what it looked like time and had a Royal Lodge entry so stable rates it. Struggled on to finish 6th or 7th but never nearer

    Good luck tomoz people  
  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 5/10/2013:
    Slightly different this week as one I strongly fancy too many Godophin runners ie 1.50 Newmarket - Wedding ring 5-2 2.40 ascot - Royal empire 7-2 3.30 Redcar - Emirates Flyer and also I have a dark horse that I tipped up somewhere on this site but cant find now:- Take Cover 33-1 1.30 Ascot- Ok after I tipped it has since run badly in the Ayr Silver Cup when favourite and it hasnt won over 5f but I think Ascot will suit it, if it doesnt then Free Zone 10-1 will win. with those out the way it leaves me with the following for my ratings- iiii- Big Johnny D 7-1 -3.50 Ascot - ok up in class but this horse has won easily three times and I think he is still on upgrade, hopefully he can win this. iii - Hoof It 11-1 - 3.15 Ascot - Good form from third behind Gordon Lord Byron then ran respectably in Ayr Gold Cup. Deserves to win one this year and hopefully this is it. ii - Hey chewed 9-1 -2.05 Ascot - Won last time out and hoping this is still on upgrade as well. i- Ensuring 12-1 2.20 Newmarket -classy race but this horse won easier than what it looked like time and had a Royal Lodge entry so stable rates it. Good luck tomoz people  
    Posted by vaigret
    good luck with your bets,it looks like a mine field out there tomorrow,always is end of flat season!
  • edited October 2013
    thnx mate and good luck to you too
  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 5/10/2013:
    Slightly different this week as one I strongly fancy too many Godophin runners ie 1.50 Newmarket - Wedding ring 5-2 easy winner always in control and 11-4 a bonus 2.40 ascot - Royal empire 7-2 3.30 Redcar - Emirates Flyer and also I have a dark horse that I tipped up somewhere on this site but cant find now:- Take Cover 33-1 1.30 Ascot- Ok after I tipped it has since run badly in the Ayr Silver Cup when favourite and it hasnt won over 5f but I think Ascot will suit it, taken out so watch next time  if it doesnt then Free Zone 10-1 will win. Free Zone 4th and more money from the bookies for the Trainers Christmas box. If they are not paid to reduce races to 15 horses I will eat my hat. with those out the way it leaves me with the following for my ratings- iiii- Big Johnny D 7-1 -3.50 Ascot - ok up in class but this horse has won easily three times and I think he is still on upgrade, hopefully he can win this. iii - Hoof It 11-1 - 3.15 Ascot - Good form from third behind Gordon Lord Byron then ran respectably in Ayr Gold Cup. Deserves to win one this year and hopefully this is it. ii - Hey chewed 9-1 -2.05 Ascot - Won last time out and hoping this is still on upgrade as well. Nowhere , winner very impressive i- Ensuring 12-1 2.20 Newmarket -classy race but this horse won easier than what it looked like time and had a Royal Lodge entry so stable rates it. Good luck tomoz people  
    Posted by vaigret
    Nice start to the day!
  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 5/10/2013:
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 5/10/2013 : Nice start to the day!
    Posted by wynne1938
    GOOD START, ALL DOWNHILL FROM THERE.

    Back to £21 up
  • edited October 2013
    Take Cover 33-1 1.30 Ascot- Ok after I tipped it has since run badly in the Ayr Silver Cup when favourite and it hasnt won over 5f but I think Ascot will suit it, taken out so watch next time


    2.30 York next race on 11/10/2013. Backed in from 10-1 to 5-1 and won . Yeoooow
  • edited October 2013
    Back to some good odds horses this week.

    iiii - Chapter Seven 5.25 New -16-1 - This horse was used as pacemaker for most of the season and then they have wanted to reward it with a win. second last time out and since taken out of numerous races including the Cambridgeshire. Like Take Cover yesterday I reckon this his is time and he won on this day last year. Finished 3rd but Spencer didnt really give him chance to win it, no clear run when needed.

    iii- Sam sharp 2.20 York 12-1 - In the cambridgeshire last time he reared in the stalls and was never in it, the time before he had won well and hoping he gets back to that form today. played up at stalls and probably that was where his chance went .

    ii- Domination 3.50 Newm 10-1 -would have been my four star rating until the rain, gave him a few weeks ago as the winner of this race. Won last years trial before missing out on race because of going and it could have gone against him again and the draw might not be ideal. this is relected in his latest price. If he runs he will win. Having a little saver on Sohar as he will win at a big price soon. How many times have I said that now. Domination always struggling and ground not best for him. And winner showed that over this distance draw is nothing, lost ten lengths at start and won easily at 66-1.      

    i- Mass Rally 3.30 York -14-1 - Also have slight fancy for Baccarat but again as Take Cover showed yesterday the horses who have really done well out of Ayr Gold Cup are ones who finished well down field rather than the close up finishers. Perhaps that was because their jockeys did not give them a hard race.This could have been case with this horse as it is a hold up horse anyway and I wouldnt be surprised if it overturned form with Baccarat. Anyway he is an old favourite so sticking with him.   No wonder he is one of my favourites, a lovely easy win at lovelyprice.  also another Ayr gold cup horse who was given an "easier" race when beaten overturns others who finished better .


    Also fancy 

    York 
    1.50 York romantic settings 10-1 4th
    5.10 San Cassiano 20-1 nowhere

    Newmarket
    2.05 amarillo 10-1 thought it was going to win until the winner suddenly cruised by . 2nd
    2.35 Brown sugar 16-1 nowhere
      
  • edited October 2013
    I nice winner at 14-1 . now up £32
  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 12/10/2013:
    Back to some good odds horses this week. iiii - Chapter Seven 5.25 New -16-1 - This horse was used as pacemaker for most of the season and then they have wanted to reward it with a win. second last time out and since taken out of numerous races including the Cambridgeshire. Like Take Cover yesterday I reckon this his is time and he won on this day last year. Finished 3rd but Spencer didnt really give him chance to win it, no clear run when needed. iii- Sam sharp 2.20 York 12-1 - In the cambridgeshire last time he reared in the stalls and was never in it, the time before he had won well and hoping he gets back to that form today. played up at stalls and probably that was where his chance went . ii- Domination 3.50 Newm 10-1 -would have been my four star rating until the rain, gave him a few weeks ago as the winner of this race. Won last years trial before missing out on race because of going and it could have gone against him again and the draw might not be ideal. this is relected in his latest price. If he runs he will win. Having a little saver on Sohar as he will win at a big price soon. How many times have I said that now.  Domination always struggling and ground not best for him. And winner showed that over this distance draw is nothing, lost ten lengths at start and won easily at 66-1.       i- Mass Rally 3.30 York -14-1 - Also have slight fancy for Baccarat but again as Take Cover showed yesterday the horses who have really done well out of Ayr Gold Cup are ones who finished well down field rather than the close up finishers. Perhaps that was because their jockeys did not give them a hard race.This could have been case with this horse as it is a hold up horse anyway and I wouldnt be surprised if it overturned form with Baccarat. Anyway he is an old favourite so sticking with him.    No wonder he is one of my favourites, a lovely easy win at lovelyprice.  also another Ayr gold cup horse who was given an "easier" race when beaten overturns others who finished better . Also fancy  York  1.50 York romantic settings 10-1 4th 5.10 San Cassiano 20-1 nowhere Newmarket 2.05 amarillo 10-1 thought it was going to win until the winner suddenly cruised by . 2nd 2.35 Brown sugar 16-1 nowhere   
    Posted by vaigret
    Spot on with Mass Rally,I had a similar experience and backed Tropics last week!
  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 12/10/2013:
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 12/10/2013 : Spot on with Mass Rally,I had a similar experience and backed Tropics last week!
    Posted by wynne1938
    Yes wynne I went for Hoof it and wished I had gone with you on Tropics. I think there has been a couple of others two , just cant remeber them now. 
  • edited October 2013
    Not very confident about tomorrow so no long spiels.

    Gone all french and old favourites

    iiii- Maxios 3.30 Ascot 4-1 never in it

    iii - Dalkala 2.55 ascot -4-1 4th didnt like the kick back early but every chance and didnt see it through

    ii- Times Up Ascot 1.45 - 12-1 Always handy but not good enough

    i - Mass Rally Ascot 2.20 -14-1 Ran respectably without getting in a blow 6th

    and to top it all I fancy THE ROCK's Farhh to beat Cirrus. Well done The Rock, good job i took notice of you LOL

    Good luck all  
  • edited October 2013
    And i also fancy

    Cheltenham 2.00 Creepy 10/3 2nd, never going to reach winner and thumped.
    2.35 Johns Spirit 8-1 Backed in to 5-1 and won easily
    3.45 Master Grez 13/2 4th after mistake 3 out then ran out of steam on run in 
    4.25 Mister Newby 14-1 nowhere

    Catterick

    3.40 Imperial Legend Nowhere
    4.15  Personal Touch 2nd

    Ascot

    4.45 Common touch 12-1 nowhere
  • edited October 2013
    Back to £28 up
  • edited October 2013
    Mixture of jumps and flat and new and old favourites.
     

    iiii - 3.15 Don- Take Cover 11-2 - Already been backed and won well last time on this kind of ground. Heavily entered and ligtly raced this season suggests the Trainer knows he still has a good handicap rating. Expect him to win again. Draw might do him so little saver on Dungannon. Thank goodness I suddenly realised the draw was agains Take Cover who was nowhere. Dungannon breezed it and turned round form at 16-1 .

    iii - 3.50 don  -Pinzola 7-2  - Unbeaten Godolphin horse who have a good record in this race and this horse supplemented. Expecting big run. Poor but Kingston hill looked very good

    ii- 4.10 Chepstow- Araldur - Favourite trainer jockey combo and stable in good form. This horse good fresh and will love conditions. Not good enough

    i- 1.55 Aintree Ifand butwhynot -7-2 - Old favourite and running in good handicaps last year. Going well when fell 2 out last time. Hope his fall and booking of McCoy doesnt upset him. The problems he had end of last season and 189 days off was his downfall even though he was ridden confidently. Running all over them coming to the last, he blew up big time and struggled home for 3rd. Will come on so much for this. Back next time.
  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Four Candles Ratings for 26/10/2013:
    Mixture of jumps and flat and new and old favourites.   iiii - 3.15 Don- Take Cover 11-2 - Already been backed and won well last time on this kind of ground. Heavily entered and ligtly raced this season suggests the Trainer knows he still has a good handicap rating. Expect him to win again. iii - 3.50 don  -Pinzola 7-2  - Unbeaten Godolphin horse who have a good record in this race and this horse supplemented. Expecting big run. ii- 4.10 Chepstow- Araldur - Favourite trainer jockey combo and stable in good form. This horse good fresh and will love conditions. i- 1.55 Aintree Ifand butwhynot -7-2 - Old favourite and running in good handicaps last year. Going well when fell 2 out last time. Hope his fall and booking of McCoy doesnt upset him.
    Posted by vaigret
    Good Luck,I see I have backed a couple of yours (Great minds think alike)
  • edited October 2013
    And good luck to you to wynne.

    Notice Pricewise has copied me again.

    Other fancies which I didnt have time to post last night.

    2.20 New Galiway 2-1 did well to finish 2nd
    2.55Cocktail Queen 25-1 Nice 25-1 third, thought at one time she was going to win, then saw Cubanita strolling behind her.
    3.30 Newbury Soviet rock 5-1 went out like a light strip fitter next time

    2.40 Don Thomas Hobson 4-1 Winner

    3.05 Aintree Viva Colonia 16-1 good 3rd and nice place double with Cocktail Queen.
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