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  • edited January 2013
    I've worked out the answer to my own question courtesy of an online Omaha equity calculator. The player with AQ was favourite, my hand had just under 40% equity (35.29% win, 8.71% chop). The guy with Q9 was almost drawing dead.

    Here's my analysis of the maths when all three of us get stacks in;

    35.29% of the time I scoop the 43,125 pot, 35.29% x 43,125 = +15,218
    8.71% of the time I chop the 43,125 pot 2 ways, 8.71% x (43,125/2) = +1,878
    56% of the time I lose my 12,265 chip shove and bust, 56% x -12,265 = -6,868

    +15,218
    +1,878
    -6,868
    -----------
    +10,228

    So my shove shows a profit of 10,228 chips on average.

    A fold guarantees I have 12,265 chips at the start of the next hand, a shove gives me 22,493 chips on average at the start of the next hand. After running the numbers I'm now totally satisfied that my play was correct, in fact it was a great spot that I'd jump to take every single time.
  • edited February 2013
    Day 11

    Closing Balances; Cash £2.28, Poker Points 635

    (no change today)
     
    It was just the Omaha freeroll for me again today. I enjoyed an easy start and soon climbed to 3x starting stack courtesy of poor players making bad decisions.

    Life got tougher in the mid-stages when a very aggressive player with a big stack got moved to my table. Moments before the add-on break I busted when I decided to go double or bust with my last 9BB in a HU pot. The action was limped to my 6K97 on the BB and the flop came down 86K. It was my intention to check/raise the flop and play for stacks, but disappointingly the villain checked back. So I chose to lead and commit my stack as a big favourite (82.5% equity) on the Q turn, but my 2 pairs and open-ender failed to hold against the big stack’s A735 when he spiked a 4 on the river to complete an unlikely gutshot. 


    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancemikeky265 Small blind  300.00 300.00 1230.00 GaryQQQ Big blind  600.00 900.00 5064.55  Your hole cards 6 K 9 7    chiptayka1 Fold     blue12345 Fold     Killswitch Call  600.00 1500.00 17065.00 TCSMINIMAR Fold     mikeky265 Fold     GaryQQQ Check     Flop  8 6 K    GaryQQQ Check     Killswitch Check     Turn  Q    GaryQQQ Bet  750.00 2250.00 4314.55 Killswitch Call  750.00 3000.00 16315.00 River  4    GaryQQQ Bet  1500.00 4500.00 2814.55 Killswitch Raise  7500.00 12000.00 8815.00 GaryQQQ All-in  2814.55 14814.55 0.00 Killswitch Unmatched bet  3185.45 11629.10 12000.45 GaryQQQ Show 6 K 9 7    Killswitch Show A 7 3 5    Killswitch Win Straight to the 8 11629.10  23629.55
  • edited October 2013
    Day 12

    Closing Balances; Cash £2.70 Poker Points 610

    Up 42p today

    My only game today was the 12-30pm Freeroll. I finished 19th/276 (+33 rebuys/add-ons) for a small prize of 42p.

    42p is very welcome, though obviously I’d have preferred more. My exit came when I found myself with Q8o on the BB with only 5BB left (half of average) before posting the blind. A big stack playing nearly every pot limped from UTG and everybody else folded. When the flop came down QT7r my chips were always going in one way or another. I check/shoved; he called and turned over T7o. I had no fold equity, so my demise had pretty much been decided once the deck had been shuffled.

    A regular annoyance in these Freerolls is seeing ‘away’ players sit out all the way to the bubble. It’s frustrating when the rest of the field are waiting for them to bust only to see them keep surviving their auto all-ins with a series of unlikely doubles, trebles and chops. Three made it to the bubble today. In my opinion their cards should be killed when dealt, as they would in a live game, ie they cannot win a pot. One of the away players even went deeper than me in this tournament; he finished in 17th place for 50p with zero participation.

  • edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: 1,000 Poker Points -----> £1,000 Can it be done? Latest balances; cash £2.28 Poker Points 655:
    Day 10 Closing Balances; £2.28 Poker Points 645 No joy in the Omaha freeroll today. I went out with flopped top set in a 3-way pot that was worth   the chip lead. The tournament was already at the point where I could have folded my way to a 50p min-cash, but I prefer to play for a bigger prize. I freely admit that I’m an Omaha novice. If anybody reading this knows the game reasonably well can you please comment on my decision to get it in here. I know my top set is the third nuts to AQ and Q9 and is probably facing all sorts of draws , but as I see it I have so many outs (any 7,T,J,K or A, or running pair) to the nut-full house that I absolutely have to get my stack in here. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance 1234871 Small blind   300.00 300.00 30.00 GaryQQQ Big blind   600.00 900.00 13765.00   Your hole cards K K A 7       robin1979 Raise   2100.00 3000.00 39133.12 jod67 Call   2100.00 5100.00 42905.00 goldenpaul Fold         leegreen11 Fold         1234871 Fold         GaryQQQ Call   1500.00 6600.00 12265.00 Flop     J K 10       GaryQQQ Check         robin1979 Check         jod67 Bet   6600.00 13200.00 36305.00 GaryQQQ All-in   12265.00 25465.00 0.00 robin1979 All-in   39133.12 64598.12 0.00 jod67 All-in   36305.00 100903.12 0.00 jod67 Unmatched bet   3771.88 97131.24 3771.88 GaryQQQ Show K K A 7       robin1979 Show 9 Q 3 9       jod67 Show Q A J 2       Turn     9       River     4       jod67 Win Straight to the Ace 97131.24   100903.12
    Posted by GaryQQQ
    Sorry this post it is a bit after you posted this hand but I have only just seen it.

    You are right to get it in here but when you hit top set you can only make full house by the board paring so your A or 7 are not outs.
    You also had a Q to split the pot but yeah I am getting it in here all day long.
  • edited January 2013
    Keeping an eye on this challenge, good luck, alot of respect for the discipline you must have to be able to do this.
  • edited January 2013
    Thanks Jonjo. My failure to recognise that A and 7 were not outs illustrates my lack of Omaha experience. 

    Same to you benc. Best of luck to you too. Your results so far are highly impressive, I dabble in hyper HUs for fun myself sometimes, so I know how hard it is to beat the rake by any significant amount. I'm currently grinding out a sign-up bonus on another site by playing HU Hypers, 75% of the way there at the moment.
  • edited February 2013
    Day 13

    Closing Balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 585
     
    Up 50p today

    For the second day in a row I went on a deep run in the 12-30pm Freeroll, though it ended in a somewhat disappointing 14th/263 (+67 rebuys/add-ons) placing for a 50p prize.

    A huge 4-way all-in pot close to the bubble propelled me close to the top of the field. I raised to 2.3BB from UTG with pocket KK, then amazingly three players behind me shoved. I half-expected to see pocket AA, so was very happy to find myself facing KQ, KTs and 99, not a single over-card between them. Pocket 99 won the main pot with a straight, but crucially he was the shortest of those all-in by quite some way, I collected all the side-pots to move into the top 5.

    My exit came in a cruel cooler when I was sitting on 10BBs, average at the time due to the very fast structure. I managed to run my pocket QQ into pocket KK at a 5-handed table. While the 50p prize is welcome and adds to my balance it was a frustrating finishing position, I had my eye on the bigger money at the final table. If I get through all the points with nothing more than a few min-cashes to show for my efforts life is going to be tough when I have to playing with the money.

    Running QQ into KK at such a crucial stage may seem unfortunate, however in my eyes I did no more than lose a flip. 

    You may be thinking ‘a flip? QQ v KK isn’t a flip; you lost an 80/20 mate’. While that is true, I would rather take this view; if the deck is going to spit out KK and QQ when stacks are shallow then all the chips are going in no matter what. The flip occurs when the cards are dealt. I lost the flip when I was the player dealt QQ, my opponent won the flip when he was dealt the KK. Skill didn’t come into it, exactly the same thing would have happened if the pairs were dealt the other way round, it was 50/50 who got what.

    'My account' as it stands today;

    http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8234/myacc1501.jpg





  • edited January 2013
    amazing resolve and great steady progress Gary..

    At what stage will u hit the 30pm dyms? Get to a tenner from freerolls first>?


  • edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: 1,000 Poker Points -----> £1,000 Can it be done? Latest balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 585:
    amazing resolve and great steady progress Gary.. At what stage will u hit the 30pm dyms? Get to a tenner from freerolls first />?
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    Cheers Greg.

    Watch this space. My present thinking is that I might dabble in DYMs when I have 10 buyins. I know I have 10 buy-ins for 30p already, but the trouble is the 30p games all have hyper-turbo 2 minute levels. When you combine that with the 20% rake I think they're almost certainly unbeatable.

    I'd rather wait until I have 10 buyins for 60p games. They run with a standard structure, which means any skill edge is much more likely to prevail, though it'll still be difficult to beat the 20% rake. The £1.15 games are even more attractive because the rake drops to 15%.

    I've played in 636 £1.15 DYMs here on Sky with an ROI of 7.7%. If I can get into them with 10 buy-ins and avoid a downswing that might be good enough to get the ball rolling.

    In 60p games I've run at -0.8%, undoubtedly due in part to the extra rake, also many of my games in those have been level 1 gambles in the DYM laddering competition, if I took them all seriously I should do a bit better. 
  • edited January 2013
    Definitely best to skip the 30p's, maybe cheap, but you could easily lose however many in a row. I think if you took them seriously a player as capable as yourself would easily do well in the 60's to build your bankroll for the 1.15's, if you don't do it in the freerolls. Good luck!
  • edited January 2013
    Very steady progress Gary. 

    I just fin in a freeroll (22/511) for - wait for it - 62p!! LOL Was chip leader (or there abouts) for 90% untill I had a cooler - KK v QQ 4 handed - in the allin or fold mode but I did manage to get back up untill the sneaky chip leader limped wiv QQ and called off my allin. Hope you get a bit of luck and win one!

    Anyway, have you read a book called Winning Poker Tournaments One Hand At a Time? I've just found out about it and currently half way through and its excellent. Really helping me with reading oppenents hand ranges and its already reaping rewards.
  • edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: 1,000 Poker Points -----> £1,000 Can it be done? Latest balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 585:
    Definitely best to skip the 30p's, maybe cheap, but you could easily lose however many in a row. I think if you took them seriously a player as capable as yourself would easily do well in the 60's to build your bankroll for the 1.15's, if you don't do it in the freerolls. Good luck!
    Posted by ididit14
    Thanks, I agree, my order of preference is; £1.15 /> > 60p > 30p. I'll only consider playing 30p games if my balance gets dangerously low and I'm forced to gamble.
  • edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: 1,000 Poker Points -----> £1,000 Can it be done? Latest balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 585:
    Very steady progress Gary.  I just fin in a freeroll (22/511) for - wait for it - 62p!! LOL Was chip leader (or there abouts) for 90% untill I had a cooler - KK v QQ 4 handed - in the allin or fold mode but I did manage to get back up untill the sneaky chip leader limped wiv QQ and called off my allin. Hope you get a bit of luck and win one! Anyway, have you read a book called Winning Poker Tournaments One Hand At a Time? I've just found out about it and currently half way through and its excellent. Really helping me with reading oppenents hand ranges and its already reaping rewards.
    Posted by CraigSG1
    Thanks Craig. Well played, so you had exactly the same exit hand as me today. It's not easy to win those freerolls, in the late stages the average stack is never much more than 10BB, so you'll need to have good push/fold ranges and run well in all-in situations to make final table.

    Yes, I do have that book. I've had volumes I and II for about 3 years, they are by far the best tournament poker books I've ever read. Volume III came out recently, I got my copy for Christmas but haven't got round to reading it yet.
  • edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: 1,000 Poker Points -----> £1,000 Can it be done? Latest balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 585:
    In Response to Re: 1,000 Poker Points ----- /> £1,000 Can it be done? Latest balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 585 : Thanks, I agree, my order of preference is; £1.15 /> > 60p > 30p. I'll only consider playing 30p games if my balance gets dangerously low and I'm forced to gamble.
    Posted by GaryQQQ
    Same. It can be done though, even if you don't get much from the freerolls, you just need luck. I was down to 10p and put it on some team called canterbury united lol, got upto 30p and played a few 30p's, got lucky. And now i'm upto £18! And I don't class myself as a good player, so for you it should be a doddle!
  • edited February 2013
    Day 14

    Closing Balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 560
     
    No change today

    I entered the 10-00am Freeroll today without success. I made it to the usual late stages shallow stack push/fold phase, but came unstuck when I jammed my short stack with Td7d into AQo in the blinds. The three diamonds on the flop looked pretty good for me, but the fourth diamond dealt on the turn gave my caller a higher flush.
  • edited February 2013
    Day 15

    Closing Balances; £3.20 Poker Points 535
     
    No change today

    Drew another blank today. I played in the 12-30pm Freeroll, though the cards weren’t falling my way and I couldn’t win a pot no matter how hard I tried. My exit summed it up pretty well; when down to 10BB I jammed KJ over a min-raise, both of my callers held A5o, they both made a full house as the board ran-out xAAx5.
  • edited January 2013
    Just read through all of this thread and also all of your last years challenge, Your a inspiration to lots of players on here i see and with good reason. Apart from your obvious poker skills the main reason for your success has got to be your strict and great BRM. Will be following this thread with interest Best Of Luck !
  • edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: 1,000 Poker Points -----> £1,000 Can it be done? Latest balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 535:
    Just read through all of this thread and also all of your last years challenge, Your a inspiration to lots of players on here i see and with good reason. Apart from your obvious poker skills the main reason for your success has got to be your strict and great BRM. Will be following this thread with interest Best Of Luck !
    Posted by Seo1990
    Cheers Seo, thanks alot.

    With nearly half my points gone and only £3.20 in the bank this hasn't exactly been the best of starts so far.
  • edited January 2013
    Hi again,

    Ive just fin 4th/497 in 7pm Freeroll for £6.55 - so come on! If i can do it you can! Keep it up. Plus the Freerools have bn boosted so hopefully you can now gain more money even for your min cashes.


  • edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: 1,000 Poker Points -----> £1,000 Can it be done? Latest balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 535:
    Hi again, Ive just fin 4th/497 in 7pm Freeroll for £6.55 - so come on! If i can do it you can! Keep it up. Plus the Freerools have bn boosted so hopefully you can now gain more money even for your min cashes.
    Posted by CraigSG1
    Nice one, well played Craig, I could do with one of those. Hopefully the Poker Gods will read this thread and send me to a final table asap.
  • edited February 2013
    Day 16

    Closing Balances; £3.20 Poker Points 510

    No change today

    Today I only played one hand on Sky Poker!

    In the 12-30pm Freeroll I was dealt AsKs on the BB in the very first hand and got shoved on. You see wild players in these games happy to gamble with any two cards right from the off. AKs is ahead of an open shove from an unknown, so I made the call. Unfortunately I lost a race against a pair.


    With hindsight I wish I’d reluctantly laid it down and waited for a lower variance spot to get my stack in. Mind you, there's also another way to look at it; if you're going to bust out in a race before the bubble you might as well get it over and done with in the first hand, it's far less painful than playing for an hour before losing your flip.

    I skipped the extra ‘Freezing Freeroll’ today due to the large field and 50 point entry fee. I also decided to skip the 4-00pm tournament. The prize pool was doubled, however the field was more than double what it attracts on a regular day, so overall it wasn't good value for my precious poker points. I’ll be back tomorrow for a crack at the Omaha Freeroll.

  • edited February 2013
    Day 17

    Closing Balances; £3.20 Poker Points 490

    No change today

    No luck today, I entered two 10 point freerolls without success.

    First up I tried the hyper-turbo £25 NLHE Freeroll at 6-45am, this being the first time I have ever played a tournament on my iPhone at work. I decided to enter because I noticed saw 77 players were already registered at 2-00am. My assumption was that most of those would be sitting out by 6-45 and not many would be left competing for the money. As it was there were two away players at my table and four playing. I was toast in level 3 after flopping two pairs against middle set.

    My second game was the 2-00pm Omaha Freeroll. I enjoyed a superb start with a full treble-up in the first orbit. I flopped the nuts with 56 in my hand and 478r on the flop, then held-up against two players prepared to play for all their chips with inferior holdings.

    A mistake ruined my chances in the mid-stages. I got my chips in on the turn with 6Txx in my hand and 8579r on the board. My aggressive opponent was the only other big stack at the table, both of us on more than double the average. He held TJ, so I was only drawing to only three outs for a chop. I was angry at myself for making a stupid error in the heat of the moment and throwing away a great chance of a deep run.

    Note to self; less haste in Omaha tournaments, make sure you have the stone-cold nuts before putting your entire 40BB stack in the middle.


    How not to play Omaha, I donate my stack;

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceGaryQQQ Small blind  150.00 150.00 11835.00 xdionnex Big blind  300.00 450.00 1600.00  Your hole cards 4 A 10 6    STILETTO Call  300.00 750.00 3905.00 manguwalia Call  300.00 1050.00 11285.00 _Morfeous_ Fold     gooligan Fold     GaryQQQ Call  150.00 1200.00 11685.00 xdionnex Check     Flop  8 5 7    GaryQQQ Check     xdionnex Check     STILETTO Check     manguwalia Bet  1200.00 2400.00 10085.00 GaryQQQ Call  1200.00 3600.00 10485.00 xdionnex Fold     STILETTO Fold     Turn  9    GaryQQQ Bet  2700.00 6300.00 7785.00 manguwalia All-in  10085.00 16385.00 0.00 GaryQQQ All-in  7785.00 24170.00 0.00 GaryQQQ Unmatched bet  400.00 23770.00 400.00 GaryQQQ Show 4 A 10 6    manguwalia Show 10 8 J 4    River  9    manguwalia Win Straight to the Jack 23770.00  23770.00
  • edited January 2013


    Pull your finger out Gary!

    Played 2 f/rolls today (no rebuys or add ons, obv)

    Omaha....636 runners

    MAXALLY09£1.60
    2.15pm £100 freezing freeroll......564 runners.

    MAXALLY08£2.20


    Joking apart, I hope you turn it around soon. Tough spot your omaha hand above. If your op had been playing a aggro maniac style, I can see why you called. If not, you could of found  a fold, saved some chips, and found a better spot later on. Hope to meet you on the FT tomorrow mate.....:)

  • edited January 2013
    Erm? Poker on your iphone? Sky poker? How?!
  • edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: 1,000 Poker Points -----> £1,000 Can it be done? Latest balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 490:
    Erm? Poker on your iphone? Sky poker? How?!
    Posted by CraigSG1
    Puffin browser.
  • edited February 2013
    Day 18

    Closing Balances; Cash £5.70 Poker Points 455

    Up £2.50 today

    The first of my two games today was the 12-30pm £100 Freezing Freeroll. Negotiating a field of 523 wild entrants plus their 148 rebuys and add-ons with my one entry isn’t exactly easy, but I managed to make it to bubble, in part courtesy of a late double when I 3-bet shoved my pocket sixes into an openers K9s and won the flip.

    Around 20 spots from the money I made a pleasing lay down. With AK on the button and 25BB to play with I flatted an UTG min-raise, not wanting to 3-bet and maybe be forced to flip for my tournament life. The BB completed so three of us saw the flop. The flop came down 66A. The BB donk-jammed and the UTG player, who had me covered, called. I considered it far too likely one of them held trip 6s to play for my stack. My decision was correct; the BB doubled off the UTG opener with his 65o beating AJo.

    Post bubble play was a rollercoaster ride with luck swinging both ways. Firstly I sucked out to double with AJ>AK aipf. Then lost a huge pot with AK<A7 aipf that could have launched me into the top five at the time. When down to two tables and all stacks below 10BB I was so short I was forced to shove any two cards from the SB into the BB. My jack-high didn’t improve against pocket tens and I busted in 8th for a prize of £2.50.

    I have mixed feeling about the result. To finish 8th of 671 buy-ins for only £2.50 is somewhat frustrating, I had my eye on the £25 for the winner. However, I have to consider that £2.50 is my biggest win to date and it almost doubles my cash balance.

    The Omaha Freeroll didn’t get much of my attention for the first hour because my concentration was focussed on the Freezing Freeroll and a deep tournament run on another site. I fell short of the money in 128th/595(+142 r/a) after getting my stack in on a very good flop but failing to either improve or swerve a flush draw.
  • edited January 2013


    Good progress Gary, well done.
  • edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: 1,000 Poker Points -----> £1,000 Can it be done? Latest balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 490:
    Day 18 Closing Balances; Cash £5.70 Poker Points 455 The first of my two games today was the 12-30pm £100 Freezing Freeroll. Negotiating a field of 523 wild entrants plus their 148 rebuys and add-ons with my one entry isn’t exactly easy, but I managed to make it to bubble, in part courtesy of a late double when I 3-bet shoved my pocket sixes into an openers K9s and won the flip. Around 20 spots from the money I made a pleasing lay down. With AK on the button and 25BB to play with I flatted an UTG min-raise, not wanting to 3-bet and maybe be forced to flip for my tournament life. The BB completed so three of us saw the flop. The flop came down 66A. The BB donk-jammed and the UTG player, who had me covered, called. I considered it far too likely one of them held trip 6s to play for my stack. My decision was correct; the BB doubled off the UTG opener with his 65o beating AJo. Post bubble play was a rollercoaster ride with luck swinging both ways. Firstly I sucked out to double with AJ />AK aipf. Then lost a huge pot with AK<A7 aipf that could have launched me into the top five at the time. When down to two tables and all stacks below 10BB I was so short I was forced to shove any two cards from the SB into the BB. My jack-high didn’t improve against pocket tens and I busted in 8 th for a prize of £2.50. I have mixed feeling about the result. To finish 8 th of 671 buy-ins for only £2.50 is somewhat frustrating, I had my eye on the £25 for the winner. However, I have to consider that £2.50 is my biggest win to date and it almost doubles my cash balance. The Omaha Freeroll didn’t get much of my attention for the first hour because my concentration was focussed on the Freezing Freeroll and a deep tournament run on another site. I fell short of the money in 128 th /595(+142 r/a) after getting my stack in on a very good flop but failing to either improve or swerve a flush draw.
    Posted by GaryQQQ
    Sorry ;-(
  • edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: 1,000 Poker Points -----> £1,000 Can it be done? Latest balances; Cash £3.20 Poker Points 490:
    Day 18 Closing Balances; Cash £5.70 Poker Points 455 The first of my two games today was the 12-30pm £100 Freezing Freeroll. Negotiating a field of 523 wild entrants plus their 148 rebuys and add-ons with my one entry isn’t exactly easy, but I managed to make it to bubble, in part courtesy of a late double when I 3-bet shoved my pocket sixes into an openers K9s and won the flip. Around 20 spots from the money I made a pleasing lay down. With AK on the button and 25BB to play with I flatted an UTG min-raise, not wanting to 3-bet and maybe be forced to flip for my tournament life. The BB completed so three of us saw the flop. The flop came down 66A. The BB donk-jammed and the UTG player, who had me covered, called. I considered it far too likely one of them held trip 6s to play for my stack. My decision was correct; the BB doubled off the UTG opener with his 65o beating AJo. Post bubble play was a rollercoaster ride with luck swinging both ways. Firstly I sucked out to double with AJ>AK aipf. Then lost a huge pot with AK<A7 aipf that could have launched me into the top five at the time. When down to two tables and all stacks below 10BB I was so short I was forced to shove any two cards from the SB into the BB. My jack-high didn’t improve against pocket tens and I busted in 8 th for a prize of £2.50. I have mixed feeling about the result. To finish 8 th of 671 buy-ins for only £2.50 is somewhat frustrating, I had my eye on the £25 for the winner. However, I have to consider that £2.50 is my biggest win to date and it almost doubles my cash balance. The Omaha Freeroll didn’t get much of my attention for the first hour because my concentration was focussed on the Freezing Freeroll and a deep tournament run on another site. I fell short of the money in 128 th /595(+142 r/a) after getting my stack in on a very good flop but failing to either improve or swerve a flush draw.
    Posted by GaryQQQ

    A great read and I really hope u achieve this mate. A quick question: obv at the time its in the vacuum of play but surely if u had rr with AK the BB gets out the way and u get the double up required once that flop comes?

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