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Risky-Earl · December 2009

Very good analogy Tikay.
xFallenx the bottom line is that nobody is arguing with u here, infact quite the opposite. Everyone is trying to help be it by friendly positive support to pick u up or by pointing out realistic facts & figures in order to understand why. I wish u the best of luck, a break or change as previously suggested may be wats needed so that u can come back with a fresh positive approach & start enjoying it again!

Risky-Earl · December 2009

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In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : Wow Mr Earl VWD!! That's great news and a great induction into OMaha! Glad you're enjoying our little community here. It's a very great pleasure to welcome you into it. xLM
Posted by LML

Hi there, thanks. Great little community & great people, thankyou for a warm welcome. Rob

Risky-Earl · December 2009

In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!!:

In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : Wow Mr Earl VWD!! That's great news and a great induction into OMaha! Glad you're enjoying our little community here. It's a very great pleasure to welcome you into it. xLM
Posted by LML

Lisa-Maries new blog is a good read
xfallenx it may be of interest to u maybe not just a suggestion

Regards rob.

unknown_username · December 2009

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In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : Lisa-Maries new blog is a good read xfallenx it may be of interest to u maybe not just a suggestion Regards rob.
Posted by Risky-Earl

TY have done x

unknown_username · December 2009

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OF COURSE TIKAY YOU ARE NOT WRONG AT ALL,IN FACT THAT PERFECTLY SUMMED IT ALL UP.WHAT BUGS ME THOUGH IS THAT A PLAYER LIKE XFALLENX HAS A BIT OF A MOAN ABOUT BAD LUCK OR BAD CALLS AND SOME OF THE RIOT BRIGADE COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK.I HAVE SEEN OTHER THREADS RELATED TO THESE SUBJECTS AND THEY ARE STILL ON HERE AND NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON HERE HAS HAD ANY KIND OF DIG AT THEM AT ALL.THAT IS AN OBSERVATION AND NOWT AT ALL TO DO WITH YOUR POSTS TIKAY.BUT AS FOR A FEW OF THE OTHERS?WELL THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.ALL THE BEST DEBS XX
Posted by debdobs_67

TY debdobs was beginning 2 feel a bit victimized here

fitzer14 · December 2009

Hi fallen.

May i first say i feel your pain also and sympathise,when i go through these stages as i often do,i find usung my points up in freefolls etc etc helps..............you still get to play the game you love and get to build your confidence up again.

Hope it turns around for you soon...were all behind you.

May the flop be with you.

Fitz.

leapylee57 · December 2009

I agree with a lot oif the comments about players getting lucky with bad calls, but when did they ever admit they got lucky sometimes! There does seem to be a vast difference when playing on-line against live tournaments in the way the cards come out, seems on-line you need far better hands to win. To those who call the muppets, surely part of the game is to suss them out and leave them alone to self-detruct. You wouldn't see Alex Ferguson moaning if he got beat playing a bad team on a soggy pitch, he would blame his own players for not adapting!

Quagmire72 · December 2009

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I agree with a lot oif the comments about players getting lucky with bad calls, but when did they ever admit they got lucky sometimes! There does seem to be a vast difference when playing on-line against live tournaments in the way the cards come out, seems on-line you need far better hands to win. To those who call the muppets, surely part of the game is to suss them out and leave them alone to self-detruct. You wouldn't see Alex Ferguson moaning if he got beat playing a bad team on a soggy pitch, he would blame his own players for not adapting!
Posted by leapylee57

Have to disagree with you there, Alex Ferguson would be blaming the referee.

Spartan3 · December 2009

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In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : Have to disagree with you there, Alex Ferguson would be blaming the referee.
Posted by Quagmire72

I think Sir Alex would blame xFallonx

Seagull158 · December 2009

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I agree with a lot oif the comments about players getting lucky with bad calls, but when did they ever admit they got lucky sometimes! There does seem to be a vast difference when playing on-line against live tournaments in the way the cards come out, seems on-line you need far better hands to win. To those who call the muppets, surely part of the game is to suss them out and leave them alone to self-detruct. You wouldn't see Alex Ferguson moaning if he got beat playing a bad team on a soggy pitch, he would blame his own players for not adapting!
Posted by leapylee57

You must be joking! He would blame the referee, the 4th official and the groundsman. No way would he blame his payers.

NoseyBonk · December 2009

My god ... after a rotten run I've actually just cashed in a DYM. Feel like I've won the WSOP (but without the $$$)

unknown_username · December 2009

It must be Christmas 'cos I won an Omaha DYM last night. .......Played 10 - cashed one...... I'm improving.

NoseyBonk · December 2009

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It must be Christmas 'cos I won an Omaha DYM last night. .......Played 10 - cashed one...... I'm improving.
Posted by elsadog

Hmm interesting. Now that Christmas is out of the way things return to normal ...... (thinking) ...... obviously THEY needed to punish us so THEY could pay for those Santa giveaways!

Area 51!

unknown_username · December 2009

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In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : Hmm interesting. Now that Christmas is out of the way things return to normal ...... (thinking) ...... obviously THEY needed to punish us so THEY could pay for those Santa giveaways! Area 51!
Posted by NoseyBonk

I'll be there

Seagull158 · January 2010

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I saw a lovely play yesterday, by the way. It was a 227 runner Tourney, & there were 51 players left. It went All-In (he covered everyone), Call All-In, Call All-In, & then the BB, sat there with 5 x Big Blinds, called too. The first 3 players showed...... A-A Q-Q T-T The Big Blind (remember he had 5 x BB) had 8s-7s. And he won Pot 1, & quadrupled up. Nobody raised an eyebrow. It might surprise some of you to see the pre-flop odds, which were..... A-A = 52.3% Q-Q = 16.3% T-T = 14.0% 5d-4d = 17.4% So 8-7 man was SECOND favourite in a 4 way coup v A-A, Q-Q & T-T. So, if all three hands were face up, 8-7 man should snap call. And he did. It was not on Sky Poker, by the way. It was a £100 Live Tourney. ANY player who understands poker would call there in a heartbeat. Note, by the way, that A-A man was only even-money. In other words, he was effectively flipping. He was a marginal favourite against "the field", that's all. If we hypothetically added a FIFTH player into the mix, wiith, say, K-K, A-A man is now only 42% to win. So he is not even favourite in the coup. He has the best chance, but he's not favourite to win "against the field". Funny things, numbers, & a fascinating game, poker. Those who can figure the stats & the maths do OK.
Posted by Tikay10

Tikay, I would like to say thanks for this post. I was in an MTT today and running out of chips with the binds going up, about 40 players eft and 20 to cash. If I had played the hand below before reading your post i would have folded without a thought but I sat, thought and the rest is history! For the record I came second, losing the heads up when I went allin with 10 5 after an AA5 flop and got called by K 5!

Hand History #219491447 (19:39 01/01/2010)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
gerbil00	Small blind		500.00	500.00	16835.00
Seagull158	Big blind		1000.00	1500.00	4940.00
	Your hole cards	5 10
ramadama	All-in		17097.50	18597.50	0.00
BRADSHAW34	Call		17097.50	35695.00	1295.00
EMNPAUL	Fold
gerbil00	Fold
Seagull158	All-in		4940.00	40635.00	0.00
Seagull158	Show	5 10
ramadama	Show	K A
BRADSHAW34	Show	9 9
Flop
		6 Q 10
Turn
		6
River
		8
BRADSHAW34	Win	Two Pairs, 9s and 6s	22315.00		23610.00
Seagull158	Win	Two Pairs, 10s and 6s	18320.00		18320.00

mag70 · January 2010

Experienced this in the £1k tourny tonight...... Ok, he's low staked but quality play, not a chance.....

Hand History #219552315 (22:01 01/01/2010)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
low stack	Small blind		100.00	100.00	1177.50
xxx	Big blind		200.00	300.00	5280.00
	Your hole cards	J K
xxx	Fold
mag70	Call		200.00	500.00	4220.00
xxx	Fold
xxx	Call		200.00	700.00	6405.00
low stack	Raise		300.00	1000.00	877.50
xxx	Fold
mag70	Call		200.00	1200.00	4020.00
xxx	Call		200.00	1400.00	6205.00
Flop
		5 K 6
ddenn	All-in		877.50	2277.50	0.00
mag70	Call		877.50	3155.00	3142.50
xxx	Fold
ddenn	Show	4 8
mag70	Show	J K
Turn
		7
River
		Q
ddenn	Win	Straight to the 8	3155.00		3155.00

Scotty83 · January 2010

Fallen, Hi.

I completely understand where you are coming from and no amount of chat about variance, pot odds, implied odds will ease your pain of that horrific bad beat.

I have given out bad beats and been SO lucky as well, and I have also taken bad beats for example tonight in a 5 player pot, I raise on the flop off 8AA with K8 and get one caller, another ace comes and I don't think he has it, so I shove to push him all in on the turn 8AAA, I have the full house, he calls and flips over 3-10 off, ive already punched the air thinking yes! Good read! My pot.......the inevitable happens - 10. on the river.....

I was gutted and had the rage, why did he call all in with nothing at all? why was he even calling that raise on the flop with this hand? Unless he is looking to bluff me off it on the turn which didn't happen, another donk play.

So this is what I plan to do, stop playing, fill up the glass with 2 blocks of ice, pour out some single barrel JD (a very nice xmas gift) and forget all about it. Im going to watch the 2nd leg of the darts semi final, and read more of "Harrington on Hold Em Volume I" (excellent book) and when I come back online at some point...i'll forget all about it, JD are my hugs!

Chin up and I hope your run of luck is better for 2010

Scotty

doyouwanti · January 2010

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AM TOTALLY FED UP. FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS ALL I HAVE BEEN DOING IN DEFENDING SKY AND IDIOT PLAYERS. BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH FOR WEEKS NOW ALL IVE COME ACROSS IS TOTAL CHANCERS/MUPPETS/IDIOTS AND WHAT MAKES IT WORSE THEY SEEM 2 WIN 9/10. I MOVED ON2 THIS SITE TO GET AWAY FROM THEM BUT THEY SEEM 2 B COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK.EVERY SINGLE TABLE IVE BEEN ON THEY R THERE HAVE LOST LOADS OF FRIENDS ON HERE 4 THIS VERY REASON. THERES NO LONGER SKILL NEEDED 2 WIN, JUST CHANCE! 4GET BEING A GOOD SOLID PLAYER, JUST CHANCE IT UR MORE LIKELY 2 WIN!!
Posted by xFALLENx

I concur ,

Scotty83 · January 2010

Why I'll NEVER play at this time of morning again:

Scotty83 /> mate you called all the way wi mid pair?
Scotty83 /> why?
gingerice /> am wrecked

Nice...got lucky needless to say on the river and hit...

Seagull158 · January 2010

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Fallen, Hi. I completely understand where you are coming from and no amount of chat about variance, pot odds, implied odds will ease your pain of that horrific bad beat. I have given out bad beats and been SO lucky as well, and I have also taken bad beats for example tonight in a 5 player pot, I raise on the flop off 8AA with K8 and get one caller, another ace comes and I don't think he has it, so I shove to push him all in on the turn 8AAA, I have the full house, he calls and flips over 3-10 off, ive already punched the air thinking yes! Good read! My pot.......the inevitable happens - 10. on the river..... I was gutted and had the rage, why did he call all in with nothing at all? why was he even calling that raise on the flop with this hand? Unless he is looking to bluff me off it on the turn which didn't happen, another donk play. So this is what I plan to do, stop playing, fill up the glass with 2 blocks of ice, pour out some single barrel JD (a very nice xmas gift) and forget all about it. Im going to watch the 2nd leg of the darts semi final, and read more of "Harrington on Hold Em Volume I" (excellent book) and when I come back online at some point...i'll forget all about it, JD are my hugs! Chin up and I hope your run of luck is better for 2010 Scotty
Posted by Scotty83

I bought HArrington on Hold'em vol 1 a couple of months ago. I've read it 3 times, keep on dipping into it and, I hope, it has helped me loads. Has anyone read vol 2 The End Game?

unknown_username · January 2010

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In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : I bought HArrington on Hold'em vol 1 a couple of months ago. I've read it 3 times, keep on dipping into it and, I hope, it has helped me loads. Has anyone read vol 2 The End Game?
Posted by Seagull158

Without vol 2 it is incomplete. Vol2 is excellent and takes you through the tournament to the H2H.

JIM_JONES · January 2010

LOL ON A DAILY BASIS I FIND MYSELF ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS. WHAT KIND OF STATISTICAL SYTEM DOES THE SOFTWARE USE TO DEAL THE CARDS? ALSO I CONSTANTLY QUESTION WHETHER THE SOFTWARE FAVOURS CHIPLEADERS AT CERTAIN STAGES OF SATS AND TOURNYS IN ORDER TO WRAP UP THE GAME QUICKER AND ON TO THE NEXT AS IT WERE. MORE MONEY ETC ETC. AS FOR THE STANDARD OF PLAY ITS ONLY WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT OF A CROWD LARGELY CONSTRUCTED OF PEOPLE THAT WATCH SKY TELEVISION AND ARE JUST KEEN TO TRY OUT THE NEW FAD THATS SPREADING AROUND THE WORLD. POKER IS HIGHLY AFFORDABLE EVEN FOR POOR PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF! LOL!, AND YOU DONT NEED A COMPUTER TO PLAY IT, SO THERE WILL BE AN ABUNDANCE OF CHANCERS, (BEGINNERS) IS PROBABLY A MORE FAIRER TERM! SO INSTEAD OF GETTING YOUR BACK UP AS I HAVE DONE YOU HAVE TO PLAY THESE PEOPLE AT THEIR OWN GAME. OR JUST BE PATIENT AND WAIT FOR THEM TO SLIP UP AS THEY SURELY WILL. ONE PIECE OF ADVISE IS DONT LET THEM GET TO YOU BECAUSE IVE THROWN AWAY SO MANY GAMES FROM GD POSITIONS THROUGH LETTING OTHER PEOPLE AT THE TABLE GET TO ME IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. STICK TO YOUR OWN GAME! AT THE END OF THE DAY IM NO EXPERT BUT IM CONFIDENT THAT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME THE SOLID AND SENSIBLE PLAY WILL PREVAIL MONETARILY AND THATS WHAT COUNTS. FINALLY IM SERIOUSLY FED UP OF MY AA GETTING BEATEN BY ALL VARIETY OF HANDS THAT SHOULD BE IN THE MUCK! IVE LOST COUNT OF THE AMOUNT OF TIMES ITS HAPPENED, I STOPPED PLAYING CASH BECAUSE I KEPT LOSING MONEY WITH AA. SO ITS DEFINATELY A SOFTWARE ISSUE RATHER THAN A STANDARD STATISTICAL EVENT, (IN MY OPINION). THIS JUST DOES NOT HAPPEN ANYWHERE NEAR AS MUCH PLAYING LIVE AS IT DOES ONLINE, I THOUGHT ONLINE CARD DEALING SYSTEMS ARE SUPPOSED TO REPLICATE EXACTLY THE SAME PROBABILITY, CHANCE, ETC LOL! YOU KNOW WHERE IM COMING FROM. WHY IS IT NOT THE SAME?

Tikay10 · January 2010

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LOL ON A DAILY BASIS I FIND MYSELF ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS. WHAT KIND OF STATISTICAL SYTEM DOES THE SOFTWARE USE TO DEAL THE CARDS? ALSO I CONSTANTLY QUESTION WHETHER THE SOFTWARE FAVOURS CHIPLEADERS AT CERTAIN STAGES OF SATS AND TOURNYS IN ORDER TO WRAP UP THE GAME QUICKER AND ON TO THE NEXT AS IT WERE. MORE MONEY ETC ETC. AS FOR THE STANDARD OF PLAY ITS ONLY WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT OF A CROWD LARGELY CONSTRUCTED OF PEOPLE THAT WATCH SKY TELEVISION AND ARE JUST KEEN TO TRY OUT THE NEW FAD THATS SPREADING AROUND THE WORLD. POKER IS HIGHLY AFFORDABLE EVEN FOR POOR PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF! LOL!, AND YOU DONT NEED A COMPUTER TO PLAY IT, SO THERE WILL BE AN ABUNDANCE OF CHANCERS, (BEGINNERS) IS PROBABLY A MORE FAIRER TERM! SO INSTEAD OF GETTING YOUR BACK UP AS I HAVE DONE YOU HAVE TO PLAY THESE PEOPLE AT THEIR OWN GAME. OR JUST BE PATIENT AND WAIT FOR THEM TO SLIP UP AS THEY SURELY WILL. ONE PIECE OF ADVISE IS DONT LET THEM GET TO YOU BECAUSE IVE THROWN AWAY SO MANY GAMES FROM GD POSITIONS THROUGH LETTING OTHER PEOPLE AT THE TABLE GET TO ME IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. STICK TO YOUR OWN GAME! AT THE END OF THE DAY IM NO EXPERT BUT IM CONFIDENT THAT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME THE SOLID AND SENSIBLE PLAY WILL PREVAIL MONETARILY AND THATS WHAT COUNTS. FINALLY IM SERIOUSLY FED UP OF MY AA GETTING BEATEN BY ALL VARIETY OF HANDS THAT SHOULD BE IN THE MUCK! IVE LOST COUNT OF THE AMOUNT OF TIMES ITS HAPPENED, I STOPPED PLAYING CASH BECAUSE I KEPT LOSING MONEY WITH AA. SO ITS DEFINATELY A SOFTWARE ISSUE RATHER THAN A STANDARD STATISTICAL EVENT, (IN MY OPINION). THIS JUST DOES NOT HAPPEN ANYWHERE NEAR AS MUCH PLAYING LIVE AS IT DOES ONLINE, I THOUGHT ONLINE CARD DEALING SYSTEMS ARE SUPPOSED TO REPLICATE EXACTLY THE SAME PROBABILITY, CHANCE, ETC LOL! YOU KNOW WHERE IM COMING FROM. WHY IS IT NOT THE SAME?
Posted by JIM_JONES

The software does not use a "statistical system", it has a RNG, & the cards come out as they come out, exactly as in Live Poker.

The "dealing systems" are not supposed to "replicate probability" here or anywhere else. They are actuality.

acebarry10 · January 2010

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In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : The software does not use a "statistical system", it has a RNG, & the cards come out as they come out, exactly as in Live Poker. The "dealing systems" are not supposed to "replicate probability" here or anywhere else. They are actuality.
Posted by Tikay10

Hi tikay

The other day, a sat for the main event overran which meant that the "Open" had to be put back, now if the software favoured certain players, then surley this would not have happened ?

debdobs_67 · January 2010

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In Response to Re: STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : Hi tikay The other day, a sat for the main event overran which meant that the "Open" had to be put back, now if the software favoured certain players, then surley this would not have happened ?
Posted by acebarry10

its called variance baz.that was 1 instance the other 9,999,999 finished early.lol debs

AIRWALKER · January 2010

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AM TOTALLY FED UP. FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS ALL I HAVE BEEN DOING IN DEFENDING SKY AND IDIOT PLAYERS. BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH FOR WEEKS NOW ALL IVE COME ACROSS IS TOTAL CHANCERS/MUPPETS/IDIOTS AND WHAT MAKES IT WORSE THEY SEEM 2 WIN 9/10. I MOVED ON2 THIS SITE TO GET AWAY FROM THEM BUT THEY SEEM 2 B COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK.EVERY SINGLE TABLE IVE BEEN ON THEY R THERE HAVE LOST LOADS OF FRIENDS ON HERE 4 THIS VERY REASON. THERES NO LONGER SKILL NEEDED 2 WIN, JUST CHANCE! 4GET BEING A GOOD SOLID PLAYER, JUST CHANCE IT UR MORE LIKELY 2 WIN!!
Posted by xFALLENx

I have just played 2 sit and goes, 1 deep stack and one guaranteed speed. I have had roughly 7 winning hands in all of these tournaments put together. i sometimes have good hole cards and cant play them most of the time cos of these so called chancers putting half their stack in for no hope cards . When you dare to call them, sky make the rubbish cards win, there is no justice. I have been playing for about 3 years and am very patient with hands and very good when given a good hand. i can most of the time fish a lot of chips out of people and i always thrash my mates playing live but loads of times lately i have watched 4 or5 thousand chips just disappear with blinds or low card flops which makes their rubbish hands winning ones when they dont deserve anything. i am finding myself bleating cos i dont get a winning hand for over an hour. 62 hands on the trot was the worst. people didnt moan in the old days but now more and more people are dogging sky off and leaving . I am going to be one of them very soon cos i might as well throw my money into the street. i dont mind loosing money if i have a good time and its all fair. Its a game of chance some might say, yeh, no chance whatsoever for a decent player. Do something to make the odds different sky cos i love to play but this is bull!!!I totally agree with everything that fallen says above.

Tikay10 · January 2010

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In Response to STANDARD OF PLAY GONE UP....YEAH RIGHT!!!! : I have just played 2 sit and goes, 1 deep stack and one guaranteed speed. I have had roughly 7 winning hands in all of these tournaments put together. i sometimes have good hole cards and cant play them most of the time cos of these so called chancers putting half their stack in for no hope cards . When you dare to call them, sky make the rubbish cards win, there is no justice. I have been playing for about 3 years and am very patient with hands and very good when given a good hand. i can most of the time fish a lot of chips out of people and i always thrash my mates playing live but loads of times lately i have watched 4 or5 thousand chips just disappear with blinds or low card flops which makes their rubbish hands winning ones when they dont deserve anything. i am finding myself bleating cos i dont get a winning hand for over an hour. 62 hands on the trot was the worst. people didnt moan in the old days but now more and more people are dogging sky off and leaving . I am going to be one of them very soon cos i might as well throw my money into the street. i dont mind loosing money if i have a good time and its all fair. Its a game of chance some might say, yeh, no chance whatsoever for a decent player. Do something to make the odds different sky cos i love to play but this is bull!!!I totally agree with everything that fallen says above.
Posted by AIRWALKER

You want Sky Poker to alter the cards?

Sky Poker "make rubbish cards win"?

NoseyBonk · January 2010

If Sky Poker make rubbish cards win then I'm turning up at Luton SPT with my worst Top Trumps...

LONGPLAY · January 2010

"I THOUGHT ONLINE CARD DEALING SYSTEMS ARE SUPPOSED TO REPLICATE EXACTLY THE SAME PROBABILITY, CHANCE, ETC"

the huge secrecy behind the software used by poker sites tells the story,a random "thing" needs no secrecy behind it,poker sites have butchered this beautiful game for their own gain,i quit all interest in horse racing betting due to what bet.air did to that game and its a shame that poker has been tampered with in a similar way too. i have never played "live" poker but jeesh it must be refreshing to know that everything that happens is totally legit and "natural"

MereNovice · January 2010

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"I THOUGHT ONLINE CARD DEALING SYSTEMS ARE SUPPOSED TO REPLICATE EXACTLY THE SAME PROBABILITY, CHANCE , ETC" the huge secrecy behind the software used by poker sites tells the story,a random "thing" needs no secrecy behind it,poker sites have butchered this beautiful game for their own gain,i quit all interest in horse racing betting due to what bet.air did to that game and its a shame that poker has been tampered with in a similar way too. i have never played "live" poker but jeesh it must be refreshing to know that everything that happens is totally legit and "natural"
Posted by LONGPLAY

There are many reasons for secrecy behind software. The most prevalent one is the "proprietary rights" relating to the software. If I (or my company) have spent resources developing a computer program/system then we are very unlikely to publish the details. This is an industry standard - a bit like the "recipe" for Coca Cola being a trade secret (supposedly).

Poker has not been tampered with - it has been brought to a mass online audience only a small part of which ever play it live. I, for one, am exceedingly pleased that it is available online.

I also cannot understand why you believe that "live" poker (a game that you have never, apparently, played) is totally legit. I am sure that some of the more seasoned players here could tell you tales that would soon make you change your opinion. Indeed, I think that some may have already been posted on this forum if you look for them.

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