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Funnily enough that reminds me of when I used to play Hi Lo Cash on another site and used some tracking software.
Over the period that I tracker my results I had AA23 43 times AND IT WAS A LOSING HAND!!
God knows why but I just couldn't win with it. I would invariably get a lot of my stack in pre and then the flop would come Kxx. Again almost invariably my opponent would have KKx, I would miss the low draw and hey presto another stack gone.
Reminds me why I stopped playing Hi Lo cash and I'm quite pleased there's rarely any cash games on Sky!
Come to think of it maybe they have a point!
played 16
won 8 lost 8
60p won 1 lost 2
£1.15 won 0 lost 1
£2.25 won 0 lost 1
£3.30 won 7 lost 2
£5.50 won 1 lost 0
£11.00 won 0 lost 1
improving....
26 played 13 wins 13 losses.
so end off the night for me, not a bad wee day, won more than lost now!!
PLO8played 18
won 10 lost 8
60p won 1 lost 2
£1.15 won 0 lost 1
£2.25 won 0 lost 1
£3.30 won 9 lost 2
£5.50 won 1 lost 0
£11.00 won 0 lost 1
Won my last 10 games , 11/13 since I discovered this thread.
9 games at £0.60
4 games at £3.30
2 losses were at 60p, these tables are still tough, with some accomplished PLO8 players.
£12.40 profit
Edit played another 2 games, won 1 lost 1, now 12/15
loss at £3.30
Win at £1.15
£9.95 profit
Running total, won 58/87
The top 100 hands in PLO8 are utterly dominated by A-A-x-x hands. That's a mathematical fact, not an opinion.
In the DYM's we are playing, they are quite hard to play in the early levels, as we can't get the stacks in pre. If we could, we would, but we can't. So I don't bother with them too much in the early levels.
Once we get to Level 6 or 7, though, as far as I am concerned, any A-K-2-x combo is a PREMIUM HAND, & I'm always happy to get the lot in pre.* We are rarely in terrible shape here.
* The exception would be stack dynamics. 4 handed, with one shortie on the table, here I'm passing ANY hand pre-flop rather than risk going to war with the other big stack.
But if we construct the correct opening range, such that we get it in good more times than not, we will win more than we lose.
A-A-2-3 DS is not THAT far ahead of any 4 cards - but it IS ahead.
These thin edges are the difference between winning & losing.
We often have no choice if the blinds are big, but in an ideal world, we would never go to war if our hand included any 7,8 or 9. There are the PLO8 "killer cards".
Of course, that's the theory, but it does not work like that, & we happily shove pre in with a good A-2/7/8/9 hand if the Blinds are big. But in an ideal world, no.
Some of the things we need to do are quite subtle.
I was trying to help a really nice lad yesterday, & gently suggested he should never - NEVER NEVER NEVER - Limp from a 7 Big Blind Stack @ 150-300.
Later in the evening, I button-limped in at 10-20 from a 100 BB stack & he typed "DID YOU JUST LIMP!!!!?"
Hope it continues.
Session # 5
Games played 6, as follows....
£3.30, P4, W3, L1
£5.50, P2, W1, L1
£11.00, P0, W0, L0
= Played 6, Won 4
TOTAL TO DATE
P41, W29, L12 = 71%.
Perfected Proper Patent Pending Plopper Predict-O-Meter.
Worst possible outcome is 29% of games won
Best possible outcome is 88% of games won
SO I predict I will win between 29% & 88% of my 100 games.
Actual current Predict-O-Meter reading is....
29%--------88%
Only ONE thing matters to me in this matter - that I beat your score.
What did you end up with? That will be my target.
Oh yes.
who is this person you speak off!!!!
still getting the grips of it in someways, but enjoying it, cant remember what my holding was in this spot, too just limp, maybe I wanted too see but not commit my stack too much, im not sure, as I say every day is a schoolday, especially with this,
feeling a lot more confedent though after yesterday.
Seriously, Chris, don't limp from an 8 BB stack @ 150-300, ever.
If the hand is good enough, RAISE, if not, FOLD. "Call" is not an option. Don;'t even "make up" from the SB. RAISE or FOLD.
Well done on your results yesterday, keep it up.
I have a feeling it might have been this one, at 75/ 150 not 150/300 was having a look but couldn't find one I limped at the level with you there, I might be wrong but I think this is the hand in question
well ill see if I can keep the results up. think ill stick too £3.30 seem too be going well at that level.
Just done the leaderboard thingy.
Very well done to top 3 places, bonny work.
Please keep scores coming in, lets get this thing sorted!
I'll try to do the board again tonight, but as it's a Sunday, I'll be attempting to consume my own bodyweight in roast lamb, so I might not be up to it.
was glad too get this in...think I shouldhave.... would you???
anyway it was gg just after this
Ouch!
You don't have the best aces in the world, but once the other guy raises, you HAVE to re-shove, & happily, really, it is a dream scenario for you.
As BBMike said a day or two ago, we are never THAT far ahead in this game, but you were super unlucky there.
You did nothing wrong, that's the main thing. Shrug your shoulders & move on, this is PLO8.
For the record, not that it matters, but the hands are rated ("likelihood to get at least half the pot"), as follows...
A-A-5-Q SS = 262 of 5,278
4-7-7-8 SS = 4,124 of 5,278.
It's what we would describe as a Premium v a Macac.
However, I am going to change my strategy.
I have done nothing but lose lately, with, for the most part very good hands, so, I am going to start calling with the hands that are beating me all the time. So, it's game on with any ace, any pair, any flush draw, any 4 cards under 9!
On a serious note, well not serious as I've played enough of these to know these things come in batches, but, I have never run so bad. Someone at a table yesterday who only witnessed 4 of my losses, described my bad luck as scary!
It's a funny old thing, but if my first 100 games here, had been the last 100 I have played, I'd never in a million years have stayed. Just as well it wasn't like that, as TK would have missed out on all my brilliant chat and interesting facts.