Tournament Leader Board 2015 (Charity Prop Bet, Get Involved!)

StayOrGo

Have been struggling with multi-tabling, and have had to adopt back to my two tables only approach (3 at a stretch).

Yes I know, sounds crazy to you young 10+ table specialist, but this old boy, just can't do it, and keeps missing spots!

Unfortunately it means I can't do all the Mains, Minis and £55 Bounty Hunters each day, but hey ho, might try to increase tables again at a later date.

Faired slightly better, back to two tables today, and on my reckoning I'm about $30 up for the year! :=)

Cheers Graham

TommyD

Ok, looks like the SS leaderboard isn't counting sat harvesting.  As of midday Weds I was +£2217.10 for the month so far on MTTs.  Will keep an eye on it, see if it sorts itself out.

StayOrGo

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Ok, looks like the SS leaderboard isn't counting sat harvesting.  As of midday Weds I was +£2217.10 for the month so far on MTTs.  Will keep an eye on it, see if it sorts itself out.
Posted by TommyD

Thanks for letting me know Tommy. I did fear this!

I contacted sharkscope previously about this, and they assured me that satellites are calculated in the standard way for the TLB's. (ie value of ticket won counts as if it was real money) 

However from my figures last year, I was a bit dubious about this

If it doesn't sort itself out, could you contact "Sharkscope" support, as they will ask for specific tournament id's etc. to be able to reconcile it. So you would be the best "candidate" to address this with them, as you have significant "credits" from satellite tournaments.

Is that OK for you to contact them. assuming it doesn't sort itself out?

if you could please let me know if you are OK doing this, it would be much appreciated.

Cheers Graham

StayOrGo

For clarification Tommy, can you tell when referencing with your figures, how you think it's dealing with SKY satellites at the moment.

I think the possible options are as follows.

Lets assume you enter the £48 UKPC Semi Final and win a £220 seat.

It could be dealing with it in 1 of 3 ways

1) Correctly counting as £172 profit.
2) Not counting it at all.
3) Counting it as a £48 loss.

I fear the answer may be number 3.

Is there any way to tell from cross referencing your figures mate?

Cheers Graham

chicknMelt

im for the leaderboard if im not too late. cancer research the charity. not entirely sure how well i will fare since i mostly grind elsehwere now. guess im in the same boat as alot of ppl tho - will be playing the main, 55bh, 48 ukps sat and maybe 1 or 2 22bh each night. 

on the same note, i guess its win win tho - I'll always have the excuse of number of tables impacting ROI vs Graham

pretty sure ss does count sats properly, but what it might be doing is missing tourneys out. i often find that sngs and hyper turbo tournaments are missed, as well as some sats etc that dont last long (3 way flips for 1/5 seats anyone?!). could be something to do with how sharkscope poll the lobbies or something.

StayOrGo

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im for the leaderboard if im not too late. cancer research the charity. not entirely sure how well i will fare since i mostly grind elsehwere now. guess im in the same boat as alot of ppl tho - will be playing the main, 55bh, 48 ukps sat and maybe 1 or 2 22bh each night.  on the same note, i guess its win win tho - I'll always have the excuse of number of tables impacting ROI vs Graham pretty sure ss does count sats properly, but what it might be doing is missing tourneys out. i often find that sngs and hyper turbo tournaments are missed, as well as some sats etc that dont last long (3 way flips for 1/5 seats anyone?!). could be something to do with how sharkscope poll the lobbies or something.
Posted by chicknMelt

Firstly, great to have you on board Andy!

I still think there may be a specific problem with Sky TLB and Satellites, it's seems sometimes that the correct outcome is recorded when looking up the individual, but for TLB purposes it's not calculating correctly. So, as I see it, I think it is specific both to SKY and TLB searches, as TLB on other sites from what I can gather appear to deal with satellites OK.

Secondly, yes it's still OK to join, even though you have an early lead, I have sent you a Skype and an Email with the competitors and their charities, as we have three Cancer charities at the moment, including Cancer Research, so if you could select a charity that no one has already selected, that would be great!

If you could get back to me ASAP with your charity, that would be great!

Best of luck for 2015. See you at the tables!

Cheers Graham

P.S. Yes my two tables max, will make up for your sporadic attendances I think, plus you already have a significant lead!

StayOrGo

Sharkscope TLB calculations for satellites:

OK, I've been doing some dabbling on Sharkscope and I'm pretty sure, as Andy (chicknMelt) says, that satellites are being dealt with OK.

Certainly it looks correct on my year to date, and chicknMelt and TommyD's scheduled/year to date matches what the TLB says.

So I'm happy all is OK, Tommy, do your figures reconcile now, was it just a time-lag thing?

Cheers Graham

StayOrGo

I have spoken with Andy (chicknMelt) Young and due to the Charity "Cancer Research" already being taken, he has agreed to change his chosen charity to:

Mind in Cambrideshire.

http://www.mindincambs.org.uk/

This is a top rate charity, doing very important work.

I have done some voluntary work for them in the past, so know first hand how much support they are to people!

Best of luck Andy! Thanks for supporting this initiative.

See you at the tables! 

StayOrGo

£1,350 pledged so far! Thank you all so much!
 
Lets see if we can get to £1,500 before Sunday's live show when Ryan will hopefully give it a "shout out" to get more competitors on board, before the cut-off at the end of Jan!

Cheers Graham

HITMAN_RV

Great Work Graham, thanks Chris rspca for reminding Us all in FOSP FB Group!!

I aint been playing, [losing], much latley, so would normally sponsor, but so my charity gets a mention I will take part!!
My Charity Will be 'Help For Heroes'


Ok the Going rate seems to be £50!!

So I will actually Donate £50 to the Top Three Charitee's at end of Year, so £150, does that confuse things??

This will tho ...
IF ....by some MADNESS of Variance I win this......
SkyBet Quoting me at 10,000-1 btw

I WILL DONATE 1K each, to the top 5 Finishers Charites!!!
[I done me sums on me Abacus and IF I win i think Winnings should cover, pmsl!!]
....i will start trying hard not to come last, tho that will be challenge in itself in this field, but i been building image for 5 Years to cash in on now, so beware!!



GL All, Great Gestures, The Hitman

StayOrGo

Dave! That is sooo generous of you mate! £150 donation, that's amazing. You're are a diamond geezer my friend.

I think it is a great idea for you to join as a competitor, even if you're not going to be playing much!

This is because, if you are a competitor, then there is an option for people to sponsor your charity, regardless of the result. So having you as a competitor will allow people to donate to "Help for Heroes" which I'm sure would be a very popular charity choice.

It looks like one way to facilitate your donation would be to pay the £50 competitor fee and additionally sponsor £100 (totalling your £150 donation) to the winners charities. How broad the prize pool will be spread is still fluid and will be finalised on 1st Feb. But I anticipate maybe paying the top four in a 40%/30%/20%/10% split

Doing it like this will effectively mean of your £150, £60 would go to first, £45 to 2nd, £30 to 3rd and £15 to 4th place. Is that acceptable to you?

Or maybe a better option is to pay the £50 into the competitor's charity prize pool and sponsor the whole other £100 to your own charity, "Help for Heroes." This is completely acceptable.

Let me know which option you would like to take, so I can update the spreadsheets accordingly?

I hope this all makes sense. :=)

Also mate, could you please msg me your email address ASAP, or add me on Skype would be even better, there's something I'd like to discuss with you. Skype ID: graham_paul_carter

Thanks again for this fantastic pledge, the generosity of people like yourself within the Sky community completely humbles me.

You have now brought us up to the £1,500 mark! Unbelievable! And thanks too, to Chris RSPCA for spreading the word too, great stuff mate!

Cheers Graham.

HITMAN_RV

Good Points, Graham, TY

I'll go...

""Or maybe a better option is to pay the £50 into the competitor's charity prize pool and sponsor the whole other £100 to your own charity, "Help for Heroes." This is completely acceptable.""

Thanks,

Have pm'ed you too Graham.

StayOrGo

Or should he be Chris, Guide Dogs for the Blind now? :=)

rspca12

welcome on bored dave top charity and no problem granham il be spreading the word to all on sky. there will be sick of me By end of january. Also i would like to donate 5% of any winnings i win at the ukpc 50% to my charity and 50% to the prize pool . i may not finish top of league but il do my bit to raise as much as possible. 

StayOrGo

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Good Points, Graham, TY I'll go... ""Or maybe a better option is to pay the £50 into the competitor's charity prize pool and sponsor the whole other £100 to your own charity , "Help for Heroes." This is completely acceptable."" Thanks, Have pm'ed you too Graham.
Posted by HITMAN_RV

Great you are now a competitor Dave! And the additional £100 will go to "Help the Heroes." I hope you get more sponsorships from other people, for this most noble of causes, throughout the year.

Cheers Graham 

StayOrGo

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welcome on bored dave top charity and no problem granham il be spreading the word to all on sky. there will be sick of me By end of january. Also i would like to donate 5% of any winnings i win at the ukpc 50% to my charity and 50% to the prize pool . i may not finish top of league but il do my bit to raise as much as possible. 
Posted by rspca12

Great stuff Chris!
 
That's just the attitude we need!
 
In the unlikely event that I cash at UKPC, I will also donate 5% of any overall net profit made from the various UKPC events that I enter. (also 50/50 between my charity and the Prize Pool)

ANYONE ELSE GAME ON FOR THIS? WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO DO!

Please post to thread if you are willing to do this. Game On!

Cheers Graham

P.S. Great idea Chris!

Slipwater

I'll probably throw something your way shortly.

Great stuff folks.

#bestlookingbromleyforthewin

Bromley023

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I'll probably throw something your way shortly. Great stuff folks. #bestlookingbromleyforthewin
Posted by Slipwater

#adamsaysthanks

bromley04

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I'll probably throw something your way shortly. Great stuff folks. #bestlookingbromleyforthewin
Posted by Slipwater

We don't need any help creating competition between us thanks Slip

bromley04

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Or should he be Chris, Guide Dogs for the Blind now? :=)
Posted by StayOrGo

Can't believe it took Rickard to point out that RSCPA should have RSPCA as his charity!

Oh well I have now seen the error of my ways and hereby offer to allow RSCPA to have RSPCA as his nominated charity.  If he still wants Guide Dogs for the Blind to be represented then I am happy to swap.  Otherwise, I would like to have Battersea Dogs & Cats Home.

Don't mind either way - just let me know what you want to do RSPCA.

Cheers

StayOrGo

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In Response to Re: Tournament Leader Board 2015 (Charity Prop Bet, Get Involved!) : Can't believe it took Rickard to point out that RSCPA should have RSPCA as his charity! Oh well I have now seen the error of my ways and hereby offer to allow RSCPA to have RSPCA as his nominated charity.  If he still wants Guide Dogs for the Blind to be represented then I am happy to swap.  Otherwise, I would like to have Battersea Dogs & Cats Home. Don't mind either way - just let me know what you want to do RSPCA. Cheers
Posted by bromley04

Whatever you want to do is fine by me guys, I can swap it no problem. If we swap, what do you want me to do with sponsor money where Adam has been already been sponsored as the RSPCA? Will that move to Chris?

Let me know what you want to do! I missed the TV coverage as I was struggling to multi-table and it was all I could do to focus on my games, must get better at this multi-tasking! It sounds as if it was entertaining and good that people are talking about it! I'm not going to miss anymore coverage, even if my game suffers, I will persevere!

Thanks again to everyone involved in getting this up and running!

Cheers Graham

rspca12

adam it is ok u can keep the rspca u chose before i joined. so gl im a sure u raise a lot of money for the rspca which of couse is the most important thing. 

TommyD

Just a little FYI on my stats, I've had a little play around with my spreadsheet compared to TLB.  It's not the UKPC which is missing, TLB hasn't recorded the Main from the 1st Jan or a couple of others.  It looks to me like any MTT which started and ended on the 1st (without going past midnight I think).

TBH just let it ride.  The bet was on whatever TLB says and let's stick to it.  The last thing I want is for this to get all convoluted.  If SS drops a MTT or doesn't record one, whoever scored in it just has to eat it imo.  This is meant to be simple, fun brags banter and raise money for charity.  Let's do that and forget about any issues. 

StayOrGo

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Just a little FYI on my stats, I've had a little play around with my spreadsheet compared to TLB.  It's not the UKPC which is missing, TLB hasn't recorded the Main from the 1st Jan or a couple of others.  It looks to me like any MTT which started and ended on the 1st (without going past midnight I think). TBH just let it ride.  The bet was on whatever TLB says and let's stick to it.  The last thing I want is for this to get all convoluted.  If SS drops a MTT or doesn't record one, whoever scored in it just has to eat it imo.  This is meant to be simple, fun brags banter and raise money for charity.  Let's do that and forget about any issues. 
Posted by TommyD

Hi Tommy. This would be my thoughts on it.

Yes we do need to go solely by the Sharkscope Leader Board, otherwise things could get a bit complex with possible "exceptions". We also have to bear in mind that the timings are based on US Eastern Time I believe.

However, with regard to the tournaments you mention. If they started AND finished on or after 00:00:00 01/01/2015 Eastern Time then they should count. My suggestion would be that we contact Sharkscope and tell them what has happened, so that they can add theses tournaments, and correct the figure.

If you are happy with this, can you either contact them yourself or if you'd rather, send me the missing tournament ID's and Profit/Loss info, and I will contact them on your behalf.

To me, amending sharkscope figures is something, I don't want to do, but getting them to correct their mistakes, if it makes a significant impact to the result, is something we should do.

Let me know your thoughts! Competitors, do you concur with this approach?

Cheers Graham

StayOrGo

WOW, I've just seen Thursdays Results!

Congratulations Conor! (bearlyther) on finishing 3rd in the main event and winning the Mini. Simple outstanding!

Clearly you have placed yourself as favourite for both titles! Although a long way still to go!

Not only is it another tenner for the charities, but you take a massive lead in the "Tournament Wins Shield", with 9pts in total, including the two points for your previous £55 BH win.

For clarification, I don't think the "bonus money" will could towards the leader board, however, perhaps Ryan, being a previous "bonus" winner, can confirm that Sharkscope does NOT take into consideration, bonus money won.

I knew the competition was going to be tough, but this is ridiculous!

Thanks again, outstanding mate!

Cheers Graham

StayOrGo

Updated Competitor Spreadsheet following Andy (ChicknMelt) Young and Dave (HITMAN_RV) Harvey joining.

Welcome aboard!

Also has included "Tournament Wins Shield" points change after Conor, (bearlyther) Gilmore took down yesterday's Mini!

Cheers Graham


 

		COMPETITOR	SPREADSHEET
DATE ENTERED	NAME	SKY ALIAS	CHARITY	PLEDGE AMOUNT	MAIN WINS	MINI WINS	£55 BH WINS	PTS	ADD. DON.
30/12/2014	Matt Bates	MattBates	STEP UP	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
30/12/2014	Ben Nuttall	Nutter5932	CANCER RESEARCH UK	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
30/12/2014	Ryan Spittles	Scotty77	NUFFIELD ORTHOPEDIC CENTRE	£50.00	0	0	1	2	£10.00
30/12/2014	Graham Carter	StayOrGo	SALVATION ARMY	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
31/12/2014	Tommy Dyer	TommyD	CENTREPOINT	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
01/01/2015	Natalie Bromley	Bromley23	BRITISH HEART FOUNDATION	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
01/01/2015	Adam Bromley	Bromley04	RSPCA	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
02/01/2015	Paul Garner	SoLack	ST MICHAEL'S HOSPICE	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
04/01/2015	David Watkin	Wacko90	MS TRUST	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
04/01/2015	Conor Gilmore	bearlyther	MARIE CURIE CANCER CARE	£50.00	0	1	1	9	£20.00
04/01/2015	Roger Arthurs	jawzindawz	PROSTRATE CANCER UK	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
04/01/2015	Chris Cunliffe	rspca12	GUIDE DOGS FOR THE BLIND	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
06/01/2015	Ross McConnell	RossMc	PERCY HEDLEY FOUNDATION	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
08/01/2015	Andy Young	chicknMelt	MIND IN CAMBRIDGSHIRE	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
08/01/2015	David Harvey	HITMAN_RV	HELP THE HEROES	£50.00	0	0	0	0	£0.00
			TOTAL PLEDGED BY COMPETITORS	£750.00
			TOTAL SPONSORED	£730.00
			DONATION FOR TOURNAMENT WINS	£30.00
			CUMMULATIVE TOTAL	£1,510.00

mrsduck

Hi Graham, congrats on the massive success of this already!
It would be good if you could put an updated spreadsheet on the OP everytime it's updated, so people don't need to try and find the latest one amongst all the subsequent posts.
Is it ok if I choose a player/charity to sponsor after all the entries are in...ie in Feb?
Can I also say vvvvvvwell played to chicknMelt in the UKPC, just been watching the episodes on youtube!
Superb!

Happy weekend everyone

bearlyther

In Response to Re: Tournament Leader Board 2015 (Charity Prop Bet, Get Involved!):

WOW, I've just seen Thursdays Results! Congratulations Conor! (bearlyther) on finishing 3rd in the main event and winning the Mini . Simple outstanding! Clearly you have placed yourself as favourite for both titles ! Although a long way still to go! Not only is it another tenner for the charities, but you take a massive lead in the "Tournament Wins Shield" , with 9pts in total, including the two points for your previous £55 BH win. For clarification, I don't think the "bonus money" will could towards the leader board, however, perhaps Ryan, being a previous "bonus" winner, can confirm that Sharkscope does NOT take into consideration, bonus money won. I knew the competition was going to be tough, but this is ridiculous! Thanks again, outstanding mate! Cheers Graham
Posted by StayOrGo

Thanks Graham yes managed to have a very decent night.  Great work on the updates so yes thats £10 more added into the charity prizepool from myself now.

Thanks Conor

StayOrGo

In Response to Re: Tournament Leader Board 2015 (Charity Prop Bet, Get Involved!):

Hi Graham, congrats on the massive success of this already! It would be good if you could put an updated spreadsheet on the OP everytime it's updated, so people don't need to try and find the latest one amongst all the subsequent posts. Is it ok if I choose a player/charity to sponsor after all the entries are in...ie in Feb? Can I also say vvvvvvwell played to chicknMelt in the UKPC, just been watching the episodes on youtube! Superb! Happy weekend everyone
Posted by mrsduck

Thanks Mrs Duck, February will be fine!
Yes it was a bit "spur of the moment", hence we had to think on the fly, which is why I have allowed Competitors to register until the end of January.

Hopefully this will continue in successive years, and we will be "more organised" and make sure that all interested "Competitors" are registered by 31/12/2015.

Really appreciate your comments and the support!

Cheers Graham

StayOrGo

Sorry MrsDuck, please excuse my ignorance, but I don't know what OP means?

Does it stand for Opening Page?

There are some threads that stay at the top, is that what you mean.

I have asked, Sky and TK, on this thread, about how to do this, but no response back yet.

Is that what you mean by OP?

Cheers Graham