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  • edited September 2015
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge:
    Hi guys, great reading all the posts. I have been going through a rough patch of late in my dyms this month. I probably set my standards too high but regardless Im always aiming for strong monthly results. To date Im down 22 dollars this month in dyms which as of 15th Sep I really would be hoping to be up about 60 dollars or so. It is difficult when you log in and lose your first 2 games as then you feel like your playing catch up.  Its fascinating how your mind works because you doubt your ability, I try to remind myself of when I was there in the past and how I pulled through it but yet part of me wonders have I just lost my mojo, are the other players just getting better. So what I did was I watched Grae play a few games as he has been doing very well at plo8 this month and his play reinforced in my mind the correct way to play this dym game. I have made a few minor tweeks which I think are the difference between winning and losing and there really is such a fine line! My results have improved but then I tend to lose a few again so its gonna be tough but I'm deteremined to turn it around. Importantly for me Im playing with confidence again and yesterday I won 3 from 4 so thats a start. What I will say is that this is why Im not bored of dyms because when you think you've cracked it,then bad results come along and then you have to prove to yourself that you can be a winning player again and that you can turn it around. New players always make it interesting as for me I wanna prove I can be a winning player against these new players - some of them very good and challenging players. I will watch your new challenge with great interest as always Kagawa. Actually you mention your first plo8 dym. One of my first plo8 dyms I remember was yourself, churchy and 3 others. Anyhow we were on the bubble and me and another were shorties and you were raising alot as big stack, anyhow I shoved with AAxx and you told me off saying I should have folded...haha I still remember to this day! I do understand where you were coming from but one thing I dont like is to have my chips fold away, I'd prefer to lose with a good hand. Anyhow I know you were giving me advice as I was new to plo8 dyms. Ger 
    Posted by gerardirl
    Very nice post Ger,

    That must be over a year ago and I kid you not I remember it like it was yesterday.
    I also remember Churchy was in agreement with me about it being a fold, think it was one of your first games and you were just making the transition to hilo from Omaha.
    To tell you the truth it was probably a little bit to do with are noses been out of joint, with this hotshot Omaha player coming over to our game thinking he can be as successful as he is at Omaha, ha as if.
     You well and truly showed us and we got the picture pretty fast, and whatever runs you go on good or bad your still in the top 3 of hilo dyms players on this site imo.

    I am just wondering do you miss the Omaha dyms, do they even run anymore ?

    Oh yeah before I forget its still a fold.

    Kags


  • edited September 2015
    FOSP OMAHA PL08 NIGHT THURSDAY 17TH SEPTEMBER

    Going to try a few of these tonight, don't have the best record in them, but its great fun.

    Kags
  • edited September 2015
    Its not tonight is it

    Tommorow night then, ahem
  • edited September 2015
    Was enjoying my heads up games tonight, played well in a good few, and I was planning a decent session into the early hours, then I got the most sickening slowroll and it knocked the will to play out of me.

    But I am not gonna lie, I have done it to a few opponents in the past and I know its not a nice thing to do, but I have.
    Don't get me wrong I have not done it often, but after tonight I promised myself I would never do it again.

    It seemed busy in the hu games tonight and quite in the dym section.
    Its amazing how much activity there is there when Tikay is on, he gets the whole thing going.
    But there was football on aswell so that would explain the lull.
    Not happy myself with utd result lastnight, but I thought they played decent, liked the look of the 2 young lads up front think that will work out over time, devastated for Shaw, really am without doubt are best player so far this season.
    Even chatting to a few fans from other clubs today and they were equally as sick about it, nobody wants to see that, whatever team you support.

    Anyhow will dust myself down and see what tomorrow night brings.
     


    Kags
  • edited September 2015
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge:
    Was enjoying my heads up games tonight, played well in a good few, and I was planning a decent session into the early hours, then I got the most sickening slowroll and it knocked the will to play out of me. But I am not gonna lie, I have done it to a few opponents in the past and I know its not a nice thing to do, but I have. Don't get me wrong I have not done it often, but after tonight I promised myself I would never do it again. It seemed busy in the hu games tonight and quite in the dym section. Its amazing how much activity there is there when Tikay is on, he gets the whole thing going. But there was football on aswell so that would explain the lull. Not happy myself with utd result lastnight, but I thought they played decent, liked the look of the 2 young lads up front think that will work out over time, devastated for Shaw, really am without doubt are best player so far this season. Even chatting to a few fans from other clubs today and they were equally as sick about it, nobody wants to see that, whatever team you support. Anyhow will dust myself down and see what tomorrow night brings.   Kags
    Posted by _kagawa_
    I have to admit, with some embarrassment, that your comment is, to some degree, correct. Partly, it's because as soon as I log in, I reg for all the levels of games I usually play - £3.30, £5.50 & £11. Then, once 3 more reg, & another table spawns, I reg for that, too. People WILL reg if they see someone - anyone - sat at a SNG table. 

    CL football will not have helped this week, either. 

    I had planned to play each night this week, but I played a whole lot over the weekend (Double Points), & I've been a bit under the weather this week, with a few (metaphorical) headaches, so I've just been resting up in the evenings. 

    Don't let the slow-rollers get to you. There are 2 or 3 in the PLO8 games, they do it every time, but I never comment - I suspect that disappoints them. 

    There is a PLO8 troll, too, who endlessly baits people - especially me - but I just ignore him. There is a chap - real life mate of mine - "mmmchips" who absolutely BOSSES the troll, it's the best & funniest thing ever. The troll does not even realise he is being reverse trolled.
     
    Mr Troll was complaining that I was not chatting the other night. I was 6 tabling, so just typed I AM 6 TABLING. He then replies "no you are not, you are only on one table". So he is a liar as well as a troll. The problem there is that some casual observers might believe him. But mmmchips was in like a flash. He'd checked how many tables I was playing, & typed "no, tikay is on 6 tables". There are some strange people about, eh? Imagine getting pleasure from trolling people. 

    Won't be naming Mr Troll, but I'd bet good money that folks like Ger, Vespa, Churchy, mmm, Eon & co all know who it is. He's famous for it.  
  • edited September 2015
    You can name me Tony, it's ok
  • edited September 2015
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge:
    You can name me Tony, it's ok
    Posted by Jac35
    No no no, you are not Mr Troll, you are Mr Grumpy, aka Dr Grumpy, aka GP. 
  • edited September 2015
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge:
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge : No no no, you are not Mr Troll, you are Mr Grumpy, aka Dr Grumpy, aka GP. 
    Posted by Tikay10
    LOL at you too.

    There is a pair of ye in it far I can see, too grumpy old men :)
    Ye should start a combined thread maybe call it,
    Ramblings of two grumpy old men who you cant teach new tricks to.

    Sorry to hear you have your own personal troll Tikay, but I don't think it was right to mention ORFORD, just wasn't right.

    Kags
  • edited September 2015
    Going to kick start this challenge again with a few tweaks.

    I want to build a decent bankroll but I am going to try and do it in stages.

    My aim for now is €20- €250,

    No timeframe

    Level 1 €20- €50       £1.05 hu  and  £1.15 dyms and 60p dyms.
      
    Level 2 €50- €150     £2.10 hu  and  £2.25 dyms and all the above.

    Level 3 €150- €250   £3.30 dyms and all the above.

    Don't care how long this takes but I really want to finish it this time.

    Would obviously like a bigger bankroll than €250 but this will be a good start if I can do it.

    My aim would be to have a roll big enough to play £11 dyms and hu regularly, without the fear of going broke.

    So here we go again, looking forward to it.

    Kags
  • edited September 2015

    How about this for a start lost 7 of my first 8 games, was down to about €10.

    God give me strength, why do these things happen, steadied the ship a bit after that, but my god what a time to to run like that.

    Had visions of myself having to reload after day 1, anyhow will update with the stats whenever I stop shaking my head in disbelief.

    On a positive note Utd move into second spot, don't ask me how playing the way they do atm.

    Really like this Martiel kid, he definitely has something special going on.
    Souness reckons he cold and calculating, might be are new Cantona :)

    And Shinji scored today aswell, not too bad a day I suppose all things considered.

    Kags

  • edited September 2015

    Good luck with the new challenge, Jim.
     
    Hard to explain how someone like you can lose 7 from 8, but it's quite encouraging to me, as I seem to experience the same thing from time to time, be it winning streaks or losing streaks. Don't mess with variance, I guess, she's a fickle so & so.
     
    Am extremely impressed with young Martial, & not just his clinical finishing - he has a wonderful temperament for one so young. To some degree, that's almost as important as raw ability.
      
  • edited September 2015
    Thanks Tikay,

    Have a feeling its going to be a long road.

    Day 1

    Played 25x £1.05 hu        w12 L13

    Played  2 x £0.60p dyms  w     L2

    Received £2.30 Voucher  (Badly needed)

    BR €18.08
  • edited September 2015
    Day 2

    Played 8 £1.05 hu     W6  L2    75%    BR €23.02


    Day 3

    Played 7 £1.05 hu     W4  L3    57%  
      
    Played 1 £ 1.10 mtt  ( final table no cash )    BR€ 23.86


    All Games Omaha hilo.

    Kags
  • edited September 2015
    Played a good few games tonight, much to no avail to be honest.

    I have started to see a pattern developing with my play and I imagine its been there all along, just have not seen it as much till tonight.

    It seems the lower the standard of player I play and I don't mean that in a mean way, but maybe a less experienced hilo player maybe, the worse I play and the better the standard of player the better I play.

    Example played 6/8 very average players won 2 games, vespa came for a game by far the best player of all and immediately I switched on, and played the best game of the night.

    Why do I have to wait till I feel challenged before I play anything like my A game.

    Its really headwrecking considering there is more inexperienced players turning up than Vespas, if you get what I mean.

    Anyhow carry on regardless, BR not looking good atm.

    Kags
  • edited September 2015

    Also I would like to add sky Dan, this is by far the best UKOPS to date in my opinion, I don't really play mtt but will def be playing that £11 hilo . Well done you are making a massive difference to the whole sky experience.
    I for one would not even think of playing elsewhere at the minute, I love it on here really do.

    Are you taking over from the old bloke as sky no 1 man. ( not just yet maybe )

    Kags

  • edited October 2015
    I am still kicking, just about mind you.

    Had a conversation about poker the other day at work with a couple of the younger ones shall we say.

    Thought I would try I would impress them the next day and took in my signed copy of ace on the river (Barry Greenstein )
    which I got signed in crown casino Melbourne.

    He signed it good luck Jim in life and in poker and the mrs took a picture of it all.

    The 3 young blokes looked at me strange and said who the f.... is he

    Kags
  • edited October 2015

    Been a rollercoaster for me the last 2 weeks, settling into work, trying to make an impression with people and all the usual stuff with starting a new job.

    My poker has suffered as per usual and I expect that, as it seems power for the course whenever I am a personally stressed it comes out in my poker performance.

    Normally I get along with most people I play, but there is a few that rattle my cage, and I react accordingly.
    But I really do regret this and I am very sorry if I have offended anyone along the way.

    I think since I started posting on here I have learned an awful lot,  a game, a day or a week running bad doesn't matter, what matters  is treating people with respect at all times, I always knew this but sometimes in the heat of the moment I lose track of that.

    I hope I have explained myself enough, because I love being in this community and would not like to be pushed out because of past mistakes.

    Kags

  • edited October 2015
    Nice one Kags, this is so true, dont mean to get too deep about it but the best things in life are free. It costs nothing to have and make new friends. We do get consumed about money and winnings and lose perspective a bit on what really matters in life.

    That said go crush them tonight kags! lol

    Good luck

    Ger
  • edited October 2015
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge:
    Been a rollercoaster for me the last 2 weeks, settling into work, trying to make an impression with people and all the usual stuff with starting a new job. My poker has suffered as per usual and I expect that, as it seems power for the course whenever I am a personally stressed it comes out in my poker performance. Normally I get along with most people I play, but there is a few that rattle my cage, and I react accordingly. But I really do regret this and I am very sorry if I have offended anyone along the way. I think since I started posting on here I have learned an awful lot,  a game, a day or a week running bad doesn't matter, what matters  is treating people with respect at all times, I always knew this but sometimes in the heat of the moment I lose track of that. I hope I have explained myself enough, because I love being in this community and would not like to be pushed out because of past mistakes. Kags
    Posted by _kagawa_
    Snap !
    I'm nervous & excited about starting my new job tomorrow.
    Poker will be taking a back seat for a few weeks i guess, but its only a bit of fun so not going to get stressed about it.
    Gl with the challenge and enjoy it :-)
  • edited October 2015
    Well done Geraldirl on you cash £450 for 11th in the premiership freeroll.
    Delighted for you, that's about a million euros isn't it ?.

    My own challenge is on its knees tbh have not even got the heart to keep the game stats, but there not good.
    Tonight alone I played 6 lost 4 of them, feel like giving up, so hard to keep positive when nothing seems to be going right.
    But I am going to stay going BR €13.75

    Some run good please or even some play good would be nice.

    Kags
  • edited October 2015


      Hi Kags, good to share a table with you tonight m8.  Just keep doing what you are doing, will all come good.

      I won't post that hand but I really did miss everything.
  • edited October 2015
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge:
      Hi Kags, good to share a table with you tonight m8.  Just keep doing what you are doing, will all come good.   I won't post that hand but I really did miss everything.
    Posted by pomfrittes
    I believe ya pom, was either a turned straight or complete bluff. I folded a set which I would never normally do but when its in your head your running/playing bad you just think your allways behind, hope you went on to win it shocking if ya didn't ya had more chips that macdonalds.

    Good playin with you aswell mate like seeing you do well. (not to well though)

    Kags
  • edited October 2015
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge:
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge : I believe ya pom, was either a turned straight or complete bluff. I folded a set which I would never normally do but when its in your head your running/playing bad you just think your allways behind, hope you went on to win it shocking if ya didn't ya had more chips that macdonalds. Good playin with you aswell mate like seeing you do well. (not to well though) Kags
    Posted by _kagawa_
    Boom nail on  head right there Kag lad.
    if your doing BR management or playing with scared money 
    that will effect the way you play,

    You are an excellent plo8 HU player kag (obvs I R more excellent)
    so play the cards, play the percentages play the situation.
    Don't worry about running bad (that's variance ) 
    Don't worry about playing bad ( you don't kag ..unless you worry about variance)

    just play  your game and you will eventually crush (simple's)

    Regards Alan (plo8 I shouldn't really give you advice champ) 
      
     
  • edited October 2015
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge:
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge : Boom nail on  head right there Kag lad. if your doing BR management or playing with scared money  that will effect the way you play, You are an excellent plo8 HU player kag (obvs I R more excellent) so play the cards, play the percentages play the situation. Don't worry about running bad (that's variance )  Don't worry about playing bad ( you don't kag ..unless you worry about variance) just play  your game and you will eventually crush (simple's) Regards Alan (plo8 I shouldn't really give you advice champ)      
    Posted by ajmilton
    Just went broke again only my 100th time, so that's not too bad.
    Going to take a bit of time off I think, need to find my game again.
    Even though I have loss my roll and I know it was small to begin with, it still stings.
    But i am more determined than ever to get it right, just need to figure out how.
    God its depressing.
    Thanks for the kind words Aj, and keep at it yourself m8 it will come for you aswell, I am sure of that.

    When I continue this again and I will, I am going to have at least £50 and a clear head.
    The £50 bit is the easy bit, clear head not so sure.

    Kags
  • edited October 2015
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge:
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge : Just went broke again only my 100th time, so that's not too bad. Going to take a bit of time off I think, need to find my game again. Even though I have loss my roll and I know it was small to begin with, it still stings. But i am more determined than ever to get it right, just need to figure out how. God its depressing. Thanks for the kind words Aj, and keep at it yourself m8 it will come for you aswell, I am sure of that. When I continue this again and I will, I am going to have at least £50 and a clear head. The £50 bit is the easy bit, clear head not so sure. Kags
    Posted by _kagawa_
    No need to take time off kag lad.
    You have, your game. 
    Just don't let, bad beats and down swings beat you up.

    It's all part of the game, accept it and you'll be fine.
    Play YOUR Game, carry on regardless. GL M8 

    Regards Alan (plo8 sorting your head out champ )     
  • edited October 2015
    Been a few weeks since I posted, been a while since I played apart from a few hu here and there.

    Been reading DOHHHHHHH diary everyday, compulsive reading, such a great bloke, just waiting for things to turn around for him and its coming soon I hope.

    I miss Jacs diary also compulsive reading aswell, hope he is enjoying his break.

    And Tikays diary, well he's just got plain lazy, but fits into the above category aswell.

    Work has been going really well, I don't think I opened my mouth for the first 5 weeks and everyone thought jezz this bloke is strange, but in truth I think I was so used to being on my own over last few years playing poker online that I got used to my own company, and didn't feel the need or want to talk, but I am slowly losing that and feel much better for it.

    As great as this game is, sometimes it stunts your social skills in the real world.

    Grant levy a schoolteacher from Sydney turned pro poker player, spoke of how it saddened him that the young up and coming aussie poker pros were great people but would spend days upon days sitting at the table without muttering a word,
    and yes they were elite at the game they played but miles behind on social skills.

    I am glad I have swapped things around a bit and gone for human interaction, I feel much better.

    And they don't think I am as strange now, well until I start talking about hilo.

    Kags
  • edited October 2015
    Thanks Gregster for a great game in the FA cup jobbie, I noticed you were playing 2-3 £10 dyms at the time I asked you to play but you came along anyway, and in my opinion a strong favourite to take it down.

    A well done to a virtual friend AJMILTON who in the last few weeks is doing one thing different, playing hilo like it should be played  and has stopped the messing around and the results are showing.

    Its funny how you see players who you know are good at hilo in fact very good but don't apply themselves for one reason or another and your happy with that, one less shark to contend with, not the case with Mr Milton anymore I think, he has his serious head on and I am happy for him.

    Kags
  • edited October 2015
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge:
    Been a few weeks since I posted, been a while since I played apart from a few hu here and there. Been reading DOHHHHHHH diary everyday, compulsive reading, such a great bloke, just waiting for things to turn around for him and its coming soon I hope. I miss Jacs diary also compulsive reading aswell, hope he is enjoying his break. And Tikays diary, well he's just got plain lazy, but fits into the above category aswell. Work has been going really well, I don't think I opened my mouth for the first 5 weeks and everyone thought jezz this bloke is strange, but in truth I think I was so used to being on my own over last few years playing poker online that I got used to my own company, and didn't feel the need or want to talk, but I am slowly losing that and feel much better for it. As great as this game is, sometimes it stunts your social skills in the real world. Grant levy a schoolteacher from Sydney turned pro poker player, spoke of how it saddened him that the young up and coming aussie poker pros were great people but would spend days upon days sitting at the table without muttering a word, and yes they were elite at the game they played but miles behind on social skills. I am glad I have swapped things around a bit and gone for human interaction, I feel much better. And they don't think I am as strange now, well until I start talking about hilo. Kags
    Posted by _kagawa_

    Morning Jim,

    Much to agree with there.

    I find Dohhh's diary fascinating - I disagree with SO many things he says & does (nothing wrong with that) but some things about him totally perplex me.

    He's a very bright lad, imo, but I think he wastes his undoubted talent on trivialities. Why he would choose to be staked completely mystifies me. (He is very profitable & hugely over-rolled). He complains that the rake at micro limits is too high to be able to turn a profit, but forgoes x times as much by giving away x% of his profit to a staker. It's these contradictions which intrigue & mystify in equal measure.

    His Diary went a little flat recently, & it's a pain to write when people don't interact (see "awkward social skills") so I spent some enjoyable time poking & prodding it, & it helped do the trick, it sparked back to life. I'm not doing so at present, as I was quite resentful at the suggestion that myself & others were having a "kneejerk reaction" to something he wrote, but I daresay I'll return in due course as I do care about the kid, & want to help him, get his life back in order. He had a problem, & sought advice. We tried to help. That's it. I don't think we deserved to be insulted. Move on, life's too short......

    Jac? It was shameful what happened to him. Simple as that. We are supposed to be civilised human beings, grown-ups. Hurling abuse at someone (publically) because you dislike them is bang wrong. There are LOTS of people & things I don't like, so I just ignore, say nothing. If I waste my time doing bad things, it gives me less time to do good positive things. That's how life works. He has had some health issues, his wife has very serious long term health issues, which are unlikely to go away, & they have a young child. The last thing he needs is online harassment., (It's a criminal offence these days, you know). Bottom line, he is a good man. We are not forced to like him, but we are free to ignore him if we don't.

    My diary gone quiet? Guilty as charged. I adore writing, but I'm doing more blogging these days, (one yesterday, another due today) at the behest of The Business, & I suspect the readers see & hear more than enough of me one way & another. Old people are so boring, I've met a few myself. Who wants to listen to old peeps prattle on? I have business interests & a Diary elsewhere, too, & my young lady deserves some of my time, too. It's a job to spin so many plates. Not sure my Diary here has many readers apart from my dear friends & mates in Team PLO8.

    As to (some) online poker players having reduced or awkward social skills, don't start me off or I'll be here all day. Honestly, I could write a book about the contradictions I see on Forums. Like, you know, writing "hello", or "good morning" when we first engage with a complete stranger. Put them at ease, make them comfy. I've shared poker tables for up to 12 hours with kids who never uttered a single word (except poker tales) in 12 hour sessions. Ugh. Life is going to be a struggle for them. People get in a "poker bubble" & it's quite sad to see.

    Good post Jim, you've started me off now. Best go do some work, before I get in trouble.     
  • edited October 2015


    PS - forgot to say, glad to hear the job is going well & you are settling down nicely there. It's good to have a job, it gives us drive & fulfilment.  
  • edited October 2015
    In Response to Re: Kags challenge:
    Thanks Gregster for a great game in the FA cup jobbie, I noticed you were playing 2-3 £10 dyms at the time I asked you to play but you came along anyway, and in my opinion a strong favourite to take it down. A well done to a virtual friend AJMILTON who in the last few weeks is doing one thing different, playing hilo like it should be played  and has stopped the messing around and the results are showing. Its funny how you see players who you know are good at hilo in fact very good but don't apply themselves for one reason or another and your happy with that, one less shark to contend with, not the case with Mr Milton anymore I think, he has his serious head on and I am happy for him. Kags
    Posted by _kagawa_
    +1 to all that. He's a lovely chap, very funny (witty), but he was messing around, & setting fire to £5 notes willy nilly. It's good to see him applying himself better. There is nothing worse than wasting talent. Those of us without talents wish we had them, & would not waste them.

    All hail to The Champ, & goodbye to The Chump.   
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