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Women can't play poker.

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  • jdsallstarjdsallstar
    edited March 2017
    I'm not buying women have less hours to play poker because they put it in more hours "planning for the smooth running of the house" because whilst that might be true it doesn't take into account that on average men spend more hours in employment.

    I imagine they would even out to very similar total hours and therefore leave the same amount of leisure time for both to do what they wish with.
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  • gazza127gazza127
    edited March 2017
    Well hasn't this just opened a can of worms
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  • rainman215rainman215
    edited March 2017
    Good evening all.
    Its not that women can, t play poker, its that we shouldnt let women play poker.
    All the best.
    ANON
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  • asmithxasmithx
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    I'm not buying women have less hours to play poker because they put it in more hours "planning for the smooth running of the house" because whilst that might be true it doesn't take into account that on average men spend more hours in employment. I imagine they would even out to very similar total hours and therefore leave the same amount of leisure time for both to do what they wish with.
    Posted by jdsallstar
    Agreed I have plenty of time to play poker too much time infact and if there was more females that played theres nothing to say they couldnt be as good as men, theres defiantly some top female players out there already.
     
    but..... i would have to say i personally think men are better then females at alot of things, when you look at the top chefs, hairdressers, fashion desginers etc they do tend to be male but thats just my opinion. 
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  • jdsallstarjdsallstar
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker. : Agreed I have plenty of time to play poker too much time infact and if there was more females that played theres nothing to say they couldnt be as good as men, theres defiantly some top female players out there already.   but..... i would have to say i personally think men are better then females at alot of things, when you look at the top chefs, hairdressers, fashion desginers etc they do tend to be male but thats just my opinion. 
    Posted by asmithx
    I'd guess thats because the small percentage of men who choose those careers tend to be very highly driven given that they've chose whats thought of generally as female professions. The guy who tells his dad he wants to be hairdresser has to pretty driven to make a success of it.

    Similarly, female poker players who have chosen to pursue careers in poker probably outperform the average male pro due to their drive to succeed in what is thought of as a male dominant field.
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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker. : When men have done a days work they think they are finished women are planning all the time for a smooth running of the family life, which in my opinion men don't do. Actually its a fact unless the man in question does more of a female role in the home.
    Posted by karlluke
    Pretty comical to say 'the ususl male prejudices' and then come out with that line.

    What's a female role in the home out of interest?
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  • paige55paige55
    edited March 2017
    Washing IRONING DOING THE DISHES COOKING CLEANING  MAKING BEDS CHAINING THE BED LINEN YOU EVER TRIED TO CHANGE A QUILT COVER FOR A KING SIZE BED ON YOUR OWN,TURN A MATTRESS OVER ON YOUR OWN,CLEAN THE TOILET BATH SHALL I GO ON :):):) I COULD GO ON AND ON NOT YET STARTED ON CLEANING WINDOWS GETTING UP THE LADDER CAUSE YOU GUYS WILL NOT PAY FOR A WINDOW CLEANER :):):) FROM HARD DONE BY :):):)
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  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    Washing IRONING DOING THE DISHES COOKING CLEANING  MAKING BEDS CHAINING THE BED LINEN YOU EVER TRIED TO CHANGE A QUILT COVER FOR A KING SIZE BED ON YOUR OWN,TURN A MATTRESS OVER ON YOUR OWN,CLEAN THE TOILET BATH SHALL I GO ON :):):) I COULD GO ON AND ON NOT YET STARTED ON CLEANING WINDOWS GETTING UP THE LADDER CAUSE YOU GUYS WILL NOT PAY FOR A WINDOW CLEANER :):):) FROM HARD DONE BY :):):)
    Posted by paige55
    I have to do the majority of those.......

    ......"if you want to sit at home playing Poker and watching Horse Racing ......"

    Anyone else heard that ?
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  • jordz16jordz16
    edited March 2017
    I think its biologically agreed men do have a very slight advantage on women when it comes to poker, but that edge is definitely small enough to still compete on a level playing field, a lot more should be done to get women in to poker because to virtually ignore 50% of the population is crazy for the future of poker, but that needs to start with live venues, ive only played in 4 casinos/card rooms so im far from an expert, but there are a few simple changes that will have to happen soon, scrapping the scantily clad waitresses and massage girls (dtd) its proper cringe-worthy in this day and age and i personally believe headphones/ipads etc should be banned (maybe with the exception of long multi-day mtts) because i think its intimidating to all new players when most of the table are acting like robots, i think social interaction should be encouraged wherever possible too, as for online, womens only events would certainly be a big boost in the short-term but probably arent the greates idea in the long-term, I would say forums are a huge + for equality within poker though as id guess there is a far high percentage of women who are active on poker forums than there is actually playing poker. 
        
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    I think its biologically agreed men do have a very slight advantage on women when it comes to poker, but that edge is definitely small enough to still compete on a level playing field, a lot more should be done to get women in to poker because to virtually ignore 50% of the population is crazy for the future of poker, but that needs to start with live venues, ive only played in 4 casinos/card rooms so im far from an expert, but there are a few simple changes that will have to happen soon, scrapping the scantily clad waitresses and massage girls (dtd) its proper cringe-worthy in this day and age and i personally believe headphones/ipads etc should be banned (maybe with the exception of long multi-day mtts) because i think its intimidating to all new players when most of the table are acting like robots, i think social interaction should be encouraged wherever possible too, as for online, womens only events would certainly be a big boost in the short-term but probably arent the greates idea in the long-term, I would say forums are a huge + for equality within poker though as id guess there is a far high percentage of women who are active on poker forums than there is actually playing poker.      
    Posted by jordz16

    Amen to that. I love everything about DTD except that. It's just demeaning, insulting, & 50 years behind the times.
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  • goldongoldon
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    Well my point Chill is that I dont think its anything to do with ability, I just think risk taking activities, like playing poker, or gambling in general is simply less appealing to women.
    Posted by gerardirl
    Did you see the young lady dangling from the Skyscraper by her boyfriends hand.   The Rodeo girl on the the Wing Flier at 20 thousand feet. The girl going out with Prince Harry.  Girls like a Thrill ? 
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  • Darkangel7Darkangel7
    edited March 2017
    Women have more things to do and are constantly on the go, such as the usual stuff as well as looking after children, stopping them fighting etc. Men maybe better at poker and maths but it's always been seen as a male dominated sport. Such as case in point the construction industry. How many women worked in the construction industry years ago? Me I wanted to get my CITB license and learn to drive a JCB as I would be only a handful of women to actually do that in a male dominated world. Sadly that goal has yet to be achieved but one day I just may do that. To get more females playing in a male dominated world then attitudes regarding women in poker needs to change. How do you get more females intrested, that I don't have a clue about. Also could be expendible income could be a factor in it too. Males may have more expendible income to spend on poker than women. Just a thought.

    I agree about the post with the scantily clad young girls at DTD, it's outdated.
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  • EssexphilEssexphil
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    I think its biologically agreed men do have a very slight advantage on women when it comes to poker, but that edge is definitely small enough to still compete on a level playing field, a lot more should be done to get women in to poker because to virtually ignore 50% of the population is crazy for the future of poker, but that needs to start with live venues, ive only played in 4 casinos/card rooms so im far from an expert, but there are a few simple changes that will have to happen soon, scrapping the scantily clad waitresses and massage girls (dtd) its proper cringe-worthy in this day and age and i personally believe headphones/ipads etc should be banned (maybe with the exception of long multi-day mtts) because i think its intimidating to all new players when most of the table are acting like robots, i think social interaction should be encouraged wherever possible too, as for online, womens only events would certainly be a big boost in the short-term but probably arent the greates idea in the long-term, I would say forums are a huge + for equality within poker though as id guess there is a far high percentage of women who are active on poker forums than there is actually playing poker.      
    Posted by jordz16
    Completely agree.
    When 2 Essex people think something is too tacky for words, then case closed!
    Massage girls would be ok if there was ever a male version
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  • SR23SR23
    edited March 2017
    I'm genuinely surprised at how retrograde some of the views in this thread are. From both men and women.

    Rainman's post was dead funny though. 
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  • Darkangel7Darkangel7
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker. : Completely agree. When 2 Essex people think something is too tacky for words, then case closed! Massage girls would be ok if there was ever a male version
    Posted by Essexphil
    I would love a male doing the waitressing as well as women.
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  • waller02waller02
    edited March 2017
    The main problem for women when playing poker is that you need balls to fire in that bluff on the river or make a big call.
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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    I'm genuinely surprised at how retrograde some of the views in this thread are. From both men and women. Rainman's post was dead funny though. 
    Posted by SR23
    +1

    Some pretty unreal comments 
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  • waller02waller02
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    I'm genuinely surprised at how retrograde some of the views in this thread are. From both men and women. Rainman's post was dead funny though. 
    Posted by SR23
    I'm surprised you're surprised. It was always going to go off topic with stereotypes being slung around by both both parties. 

    Tikay threw in the bait and got nibbles a plenty.
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  • Darkangel7Darkangel7
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    The main problem for women when playing poker is that you need balls to fire in that bluff on the river or make a big call.
    Posted by waller02
    we don't need balls we got airbags ;) lol
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  • goldongoldon
    edited March 2017
    The Dusk till Dawn girls in hot pants were wearing the require uniform for the job.  They were not Topless or did they flop their air bags on the tables.  They were attractive young ladies catering for players needs.  If more ladies were players and asked for the services of the Dream Boys .... I'm sure the organizers would have provided them.
    If your trousers didn't move that's your fault not the young girls. ?
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  • jordz16jordz16
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    The Dusk till Dawn girls in hot pants were wearing the require uniform for the job.  They were not Topless or did they flop their air bags on the tables.  They were attractive young ladies catering for players needs.  If more ladies were players and asked for the services of the Dream Boys .... I'm sure the organizers would have provided them. If your trousers didn't move that's your fault not the young girls. ?
    Posted by goldon

    Absolutely ridiculous.



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  • goldongoldon
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker. : Absolutely ridiculous.
    Posted by jordz16
    Why you want them in the back streets instead .
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  • jordz16jordz16
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker. : Why you want them in the back streets instead .
    Posted by goldon
    In what world are they the only two options??

    with that kind of comment it shows just how far away we are from equality within poker. 
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  • EssexphilEssexphil
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker. : Why you want them in the back streets instead .
    Posted by goldon
    No-I want "them" dealing cards and filling half the seats at the table, being treated as human beings rather than objects from a particularly bad Carry On film....

    On the original subject, I would mention that women tend to read other players slightly better than men...



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  • goldongoldon
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker. : In what world are they the only two options?? with that kind of comment it shows just how far away we are from equality within poker. 
    Posted by jordz16
    They were doing the job they were employed to do by the casino as Physiotherapist or table waitresses,   I spoke to one girl she had Uni degree in Physiotherapy and said her friend work for football Club nothing to do with sleaze equality they're being stereo type'd because of dress ....... or lack of it.?  You've fallen into the Political correct brigade.
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  • day4eire76day4eire76
    edited March 2017

    Nonsense post by yourself as usual.

    Nothing to do with political correctness.

    Your quote was "Why you want them in the back streets instead" .

    I am sure I am not the only one who read that  and taught you are implying that the ladies are offering other services.





    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker. : They were doing the job they were employed to do by the casino as Physiotherapist or table waitresses,   I spoke to one girl she had Uni degree in Physiotherapy and said her friend work for football Club nothing to do with sleaze equality they're being stereo type'd because of dress ....... or lack of it.?  You've fallen into the Political correct brigade.
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  • jordz16jordz16
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker. : They were doing the job they were employed to do by the casino as Physiotherapist or table waitresses,   I spoke to one girl she had Uni degree in Physiotherapy and said her friend work for football Club nothing to do with sleaze equality they're being stereo type'd because of dress ....... or lack of it.?  You've fallen into the Political correct brigade.
    Posted by goldon

    they are more than capable of still being employed by the casino, and still doing the same jobs in normal waitressing uniform, and if that was the case more women would play poker in that establishment. I have no issue with the women working there, good for them, my issue is with the guys running the casino who, like you, seem stuck very much in the past.
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited March 2017

    The Dusk till Dawn girls in hot pants were wearing the require uniform for the job.  They were not Topless or did they flop their air bags on the tables.  They were attractive young ladies catering for players needs.  If more ladies were players and asked for the services of the Dream Boys .... I'm sure the organizers would have provided them. If your trousers didn't move that's your fault not the young girls. ?
    Posted by goldon


    Why you want them in the back streets instead .
    Posted by goldon

    Unreal.

    I had been avoiding this thread because it started on iffy ground then descended downhill, I didn't expect it to hit these lows though.

    Couldn't let those comments go however. What a way to "celebrate" international women's day.

    +1 Jordz EssexPhil and Day4Eire

    Back on topic.

    I would be interested to hear more thoughts from women as to why more women don't play though. Above attitudes won't help, and I suppose no women who don't play will be reading this thread.

    I personally started playing poker in the common room at school and didn't play again until curiosity struck when Late Night Poker started.

    Maybe something inherently attracts men more than women to the game, I doubt that there are any real fundamental differences that give men such an edge and clearly women can compete.

    I guess women who want to start playing need to be comfortable in a male dominated environment. Vicky Cohren started by crashing her older brothers home games. Online should help make it easier for anyone to try poker yet despite that being an option for a good while there is still a large imbalance. 

    Clearly there are still many more males than females even trying poker in the first place so naturally there will be more playing. It is also a game that you can play into your 70s and beyond so if there has been an imbalance for decades it would take many more decades to equalise playing numbers even if 50% of new players were female.



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  • goldongoldon
    edited March 2017
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    Nonsense post by yourself as usual. Nothing to do with political correctness. Your quote was " Why you want them in the back streets instead" . I am sure I am not the only one who read that  and taught you are implying that the ladies are offering other services. In Response to Re: Women can't play poker. :
    Posted by day4eire76
     
      Not me I was happy they were part of the casino entertainment.  Loved the Hot Pants/ were you there.???

    Girls like to dress seductively to tease blokes all part of Courting or have you forgot .... you want them to walk around in bed sheets . !

    P.S The girls chose the outfits as corporate image not the Casino why should they object ?

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and these girls were beautiful ..... not Tarts as was suggested.



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  • day4eire76day4eire76
    edited March 2017
    Good god fella stop digging.

    They are not there to tease blokes or to court.

    They are there to do a job which I found them to be really good at.

    The complaint is that they should not have to serve drinks or deal in such outfits if we are to encourage more women to play the game.





    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker.:
    In Response to Re: Women can't play poker. :     Not me I was happy they were part of the casino entertainment.  Loved the Hot Pants/ were you there.??? Girls like to dress seducively to tease blokes all part of Courting or have you forgot .... you want them to walk around in bed sheets . !
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