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Cash players... please resolve this argument for me:
Ok... this player has basically shoved every hand, he started with £1.60 and shoved with Q9s to my UTG raise... i called with QQ and he sucked out. Then he continues shoving, i call him with A9s and he shows K6o and sucks out... he continues to shove and i call with 88 and he shows me KK which hold up... then he starts shoving again... folded round to me... call or fold?
| Frosty1 | Small blind | £0.02 | £0.02 | £9.54 | |
| BlackFish3 | Big blind | £0.04 | £0.06 | £9.90 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| liam340 | All-in | £8.65 | £8.71 | £0.00 | |
| von01 | Fold | ||||
| STEVOSTEG | Fold | ||||
| Her078 | Fold | ||||
| Frosty1 | Fold |
Comments
This is why this is an instant fold.
Number 1: Your over 200 big blinds deep. Why would anyone in this position call off their stack with AJ regardless whether hes a top class pro or a donk shoving most hands. Just like before he could have you crushed like when he had KK.. so thats AQ AK JJ QQ KK AA your being crushed by. and 22 33 44 55 66 77 88 99 10 10, your flipping at best.
Number 2: Just pass and wait for a better situation e.g QQ KK or AA. If hes the donk shoving all in with a big range. Just wait and crush him. Your gonna get his money in the end.
Its a terrible call in my opinion. Thanks for the post though, quite interesting.
i am no cash player but this is a instant fold, you have only invested 4p lol
if hes as loose as you say he is and just being stupid i can guarantee you are going to get your money in as a bigger favourite
BTW did you fold?
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Are you guys who are saying fold going to also fold if he turns his cards over and shows you.......
Ax
JT
53
89
QK
JK
AT
etc etc?
if he is really shoving EVERY hand it's an easy call. (imho)
I assumed his range was any ace, any pair, any king, some queens and some suited cons... so that comes out as me being 60% fave... so that's why i called. I made this assumption based on the previous hands he showed.
But the cards are not face up! If the cards are face up. Rake is 5% then its a call as your making 5% profit every time. But the cards wernt face up. you invested 4p just fold it, wait for a monster and crush him.
Even with the tightened range above it's still an easy call..... anyone who disagrees is wrong i'm afraid (not often i stick my neck out that far.)
Still fold...if you had a pocket pair then call away but your hand is still unmade...do you want to gamble for all of your stack? Are you assuming that you'll hit and he wont?
In context all you have is A high here...
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can all those that say its a fold please back up their statement with some content..... I fear you are passing on terrible advice. To say you only have ace high... or you could be crushed is just plain silly. This is cash remember, not early position on a big MTT final table lol
Show a lot of patience and fold almost anything until you are shoving in at your terms.
As soon as i see my cards i put a value on them pre-flop and i stick to it. Yours i would have valued at 20p tops.
Just be nice and patient until you hit a flop and he will call you then simply laugh and mug him.