In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : I know exactly how you feel Neil............every Thursday I seem to get hammered trying to qualify for Main. So I'm giving up on that, and tbh I'm not even going to play in Bounty Hunters coz everybody seems to just be limping in with top hands. I've seen it 3 times tonight with AA, QQ and JJ. Definite change of tactics, strategy and MIND SET required.........Hope some of you fared better :-( Posted by MISTY4ME
We need to combat this limping thing in BH's...
Seen it a lot, but tried it myself only to walk into the monster hand that is 104 sooted who went on the hit his flush v my AA.
There's got to be a way to find an edge in these things, so i'm going to try some slightly different lines.
I'll start with minimising my range of playable hands & getting my stack in early to see if we can provoke some action. Can't let these limpers rule lol.
Had a slow day at work, so ended up playing a bundle of cash this pm........got my mojo back ;-) see you all this evening Neil Posted by HENDRIK62
NICE ONE Neil..............
Now I know I said I was giving up on playing Bounty Hunters, but its a case of 'The Old Window Salesmen's Theory' .......you just have to keep knocking on the doors !!!!!!!!!!!
So when I was KO'd by SPIDER_PIG....... limping in and when I 3x-raised shoved All-in you thought I would have remembered yesterday and just folded......But A 9 suited looked a good hand to call. he had KK which held.........TRY AGAIN
So I did and have just qualified thru £3.60 sat for tonight's Main......GOOD LUCK to ME and EVERYONE else playing tonight........and as ALWAYS.........
WD misty GL with it, i tried to sat myself in via semi but it didn't work so it will be the deep and mega stacks, i will be in the mini and might attempt 2K (9:30) and 1K (22:40) BH as they both get lots.
Hey all here is my thoughts on how to beat bounty hunters on sky, I actually used to struggle in these for a long time on sky but in my old age Iv become a lot more nitty which seems to have had a real positive effect in these comps.
1. We don't need to play many pots at all as there is often many fish who will literally donate us chips.
2. We domt need to get tangled up in pots we domt need too, ( I used to try and win every pot) use a good noting system on who u can run over and who is an absolute station, there is tons who will station u down with a high on 3 streets so it's best to Have a little information on who we r playing against.
3. We domt have to c bet every pot when raising pre, ur just gonna get floated by fish so often it's best to give up amd wait for a better spot as ur going to be called super light.
4. If we get a stack and the blinds increase put ppl under pressure who you fear will looking to min cash before they get involved in any decent sized pots (obv huge in any form of poker)
5. If u find a nutted hand u can often get max value from weak holdings so get some money in!
6. Run as good as bracewell! If we all ran like him we would be millionaires!
here are todays gee gees alex my boy in the st leger 350 Donny each way and taws in the last at chester my local track the trainers sent this fron devon big chance lump on to win gl all and well done jj wiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Nice cash JJ in the Deepy....WELL DONE. it seems like there hasnt been much success for TPTers this week, and I certainly havent contributed a penny either. I did seriously think of taking the cash in the satellite I won entry into last night's Main B/H in, as there was 2 spots and it was £29.50, and my record in B/H's of late is terrible.....but I ditched the 9 2off, I was holding, going on the theory that I need the practice, and its not worth entering if you dont want the seat. .........I lasted my usual half hour !!!!!! and went out to HAYSIE, my Old Boss at Seasons Holidays. I only had 3 hands in that time...... QQ which I 3x raised and everyone folded.........KK which I min raised UTG (trying the Limpers tactics) and everyone folded. and AK against HAYSIE, where I was getting short stacked (900chips out of 2000 starting stack) and prob should have shoved from the start, but was trying to play the hand (and win more chips) not to go out of tourney.....i didnt hit on flop or turn, and HAYSIE was betting aggro as he does, and put me All-in, so I folded. I didnt do much better in the Mini either, and wish I'd entered the Mega-Stack instead.
Anyway todays another day...........and there's some good Horse Racing at Donny and over in Ireland where AUSTRALIA will win but is way too short to back.
At Doncaster I like ESTIDHKAAR (2.05pm) 11/10fav
choice of 2............OUT DO (2.40pm) 11/1 each way
or YORK GLORY (2.40pm) 22/1 each way
ES QUE LOVE (3.15pm) 7/1 each way
WINDSHEAR (3.50pm) 7/1 each way
GOOD LUCK to everyone jousting at the tables tonight (incl. ME !!!) and as always.....
.....MAY the CASH be with you ALL
EDIT: Thanks so much for your thoughts and HELP with the BOUNTY HUNTER strategy TREV, JONNY, LARSON and K8LOU. It is great to be able to ask more experienced (and regular winning) players for help, and a better way to play these tourneys. Hope I will get back to cashing soon too
how to exit a tourney 3 easy steps same player 3 times
hand 1 PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancedovahkin1 Small blind 75.00 75.00 12970.00 steelrod Big blind 150.00 225.00 4265.00 Your hole cards A J anfieldace Fold joebig16 Fold berty72 All-in 952.50 1177.50 0.00 56pomp Fold dovahkin1 Fold steelrod Call 802.50 1980.00 3462.50 steelrod Show A J berty72 Show 6 A Flop A K 6 Turn 6 River 3 berty72 Win Full House, 6s and Aces 1980.00 1980.00 hand 2 PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceanfieldace Small blind 75.00 75.00 7882.50 joebig16 Big blind 150.00 225.00 3480.00 Your hole cards Q A berty72 Call 150.00 375.00 1830.00 56pomp Fold dovahkin1 Fold steelrod All-in 3912.50 4287.50 0.00 anfieldace Fold joebig16 Fold berty72 All-in 1830.00 6117.50 0.00 steelrod Unmatched bet 1932.50 4185.00 1932.50 berty72 Show K J steelrod Show Q A Flop 9 Q 8 Turn K River 6 berty72 Win Pair of Kings 4185.00 4185.00 hand 3 PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancejoebig16 Small blind 75.00 75.00 3405.00 berty72 Big blind 150.00 225.00 4035.00 Your hole cards Q A 56pomp Fold dovahkin1 Fold steelrod All-in 1932.50 2157.50 0.00 anfieldace Fold joebig16 Fold berty72 Call 1782.50 3940.00 2252.50 berty72 Show J K steelrod Show Q A Flop 3 3 6 Turn J River 8 berty72 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 3s 3940.00 6192.50 run better one day lol
do people have to bet with nothing and check when it hit
coxer
Small blind
300.00
300.00
7957.50
xTheNutzx
Big blind
600.00
900.00
12770.00
Your hole cards
2
2
dannk
Call
600.00
1500.00
59158.75
n17mad
Call
600.00
2100.00
16583.75
concon12
Fold
craigcu12
Call
600.00
2700.00
15662.50
coxer
Fold
xTheNutzx
Check
Flop
J
7
2
xTheNutzx
Check
dannk
Bet
2700.00
5400.00
56458.75
n17mad
Fold
craigcu12
Call
2700.00
8100.00
12962.50
xTheNutzx
Fold
Turn
5
dannk
Bet
4050.00
12150.00
52408.75
craigcu12
Call
4050.00
16200.00
8912.50
River
10
dannk
Check
craigcu12
All-in
8912.50
25112.50
0.00
dannk
Raise
17825.00
42937.50
34583.75
dannk
Unmatched bet
8912.50
34025.00
43496.25
dannk
Show
A
K
craigcu12
Show
2
2
dannk
Win
Flush to the Ace
34025.00
77521.25
of course it was a freeroll where the worst play of all is done.
on the positive side of things i was able to make it into the main and i did take a gamble at the end with K8 because my good stack was depleted when a few had played the MTT like a one meant to win, allowing other table shortys to get more chance of making it through.
the early stages of it were going great and the unusual thing about it was the table i was on had a maniac, the minute i moved tables things went down hill, my tip of the day if you can't beat them join em.
in my eyes the limper that is the biggest trouble is the one who is a weak maniac in other words the type that limpes frequently, then post flop he'll constantly be doing min bets hoping you do the raise, these are the type that are the biggest issue . the one thing with limpers is they are such weak players, they want very cheap flop but the trouble with that is they now have an issue at attempting to get value when they hit so what they'll do is weak frequently they'll min bet them like they min bet the other stuff, the oone thing they very rarely seem to do raise large as bluffs.
as we all know these fish and limpers have a massive range so if you make a cbet there is a good chance they will fold, the danger is when they do hit they will start trapping, chips are very important so rather than getting lots of value from them chasing hand it will be much better to do the same play yourself and weak bet, min bet as the blinds get large
Birdy70
Small blind
75.00
75.00
3657.50
sam1986
Big blind
150.00
225.00
5117.50
Your hole cards
J
K
lion64
Call
150.00
375.00
2390.00
D4VEK
Fold
boulteb
Call
150.00
525.00
12930.00
craigcu12
Raise
300.00
825.00
4055.00
Birdy70
Fold
sam1986
Fold
lion64
Call
150.00
975.00
2240.00
boulteb
Call
150.00
1125.00
12780.00
Flop
K
J
5
lion64
Check
boulteb
Check
craigcu12
Bet
150.00
1275.00
3905.00
lion64
Call
150.00
1425.00
2090.00
boulteb
Call
150.00
1575.00
12630.00
Turn
8
lion64
Check
boulteb
Check
craigcu12
Bet
450.00
2025.00
3455.00
lion64
Fold
boulteb
Fold
craigcu12
Muck
craigcu12
Win
1575.00
5030.00
craigcu12
Return
450.00
0.00
5480.00
the raising habit is constantly min raising as they want you to call and can't use semi bluffs or cbets to mix up there range so good hand will be likely min raised, his minbet could have been a hit or it could have been a miss so i did a min raise and when he then did a reraise you know he will be certain to not have the flush draw so on the turn i make a weak bet as that flush will look very scary
it looks as though i might be getting myself a much cheaper entry into the super roller this week. firstly i got myself into the Bh via a semi alone, won £25 in HP so decided to use that for a semi into the mega roller and now i've won £88 in that
f1shkiller
18000
1
£15k Super Roller
craigcu12
0
2
£88
so tomorrow will need just £22 from my strong part of poker the cash tables
Just when I say that we havent had many cashes this week......look what happens !!!!!!!!
FANTASTIC NIGHT....... VERY WELL DONE STOKE, Great WIN there.
We had a lot of fun and banter in the MAIN which I managed to qualify for in the very last Sat.(except All-ins) nearly spent entry fee in Sat's tbh....but hey-ho got there in the end.
WELL DONE CRAIG on the Bounty's and the cash in the Roller Semi, you were very unlucky not to cash in the Main....just stick at it, but what a performance from MattP, leading most of the night, bashing people out of the Park like Babe Ruth....... and I managed to sprinkle a little bit of 'Misty Magic' to help him on the Final Table.....(I was getting some grief off the Mrs for not paying her much attention, having finished in the tourney myself !!!!) but a very nice CASH.
And having adopted the tactics and advice given by you Guys, I finally managed a good run in a Bounty Hunter myself.....THANK YOU so much again for the help, and for the rail Craig and Matt P and good banter with Jawzindawz too, it was so much FUN and it was nice to get 66 to KO TimmyRaRa for a nice Bounty near the end.
MISTY4ME
0
22
£41.02 + £44.30 Head Prizes
3
GOOD LUCK at the tables to everyone jousting tonight.....and as Always.......
I had a small cash so far today.....and it was in a B/H (things are looking up, just missed out on a lot of bounties, but felt I played much, much better). FT was an epic battle 3 way for a long time....
badcawl1540001£33.49 + £26.82 Head Prizes8 HENDRIK6202£21.95 + £3.92 Head Prizes2 GothGod03£13.57 + £9.57 Head Prizes7
Massive congrats to Stoke for his win at last. I've been telling him for months he deserves a win as he's so consistent in the Deepies. So he goes and wins a bounty hunter lol.
Well done Matt ( great cash) and Craig, Misty and Hendrik too. Had an awful night, played 3 tourneys, was playing very solid, when it came to the crunch got it in good 3 times and lost every one on the river.
Comments
Seen it a lot, but tried it myself only to walk into the monster hand that is 104 sooted who went on the hit his flush v my AA.
There's got to be a way to find an edge in these things, so i'm going to try some slightly different lines.
I'll start with minimising my range of playable hands & getting my stack in early to see if we can provoke some action. Can't let these limpers rule lol.
Good luck everyone
Prob just fold K8 there mate, can't see the villain folding there hardly ever.
With limpers (in bh)
Play big hands really strong. AA KK QQ (AK) If there is 2 limpers, raise massive. Like 8-10x. (Less with AK)
Pairs 88 and below. If there is 2 limpers, just limp in, looking to hit a set, if you miss just fold.
We are getting paid a massive amount of the time when we hit a set.
Generally play pretty tight, just wait for the right spot, they usually come along.
Benalman5150001£57.58jjjach02£35.12
just joking you did what was correct and i choose to make the call.
hand 1
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancedovahkin1 Small blind 75.00 75.00 12970.00 steelrod Big blind 150.00 225.00 4265.00 Your hole cards A J anfieldace Fold joebig16 Fold berty72 All-in 952.50 1177.50 0.00 56pomp Fold dovahkin1 Fold steelrod Call 802.50 1980.00 3462.50 steelrod Show A J berty72 Show 6 A Flop A K 6 Turn 6 River 3 berty72 Win Full House, 6s and Aces 1980.00 1980.00
hand 2
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceanfieldace Small blind 75.00 75.00 7882.50 joebig16 Big blind 150.00 225.00 3480.00 Your hole cards Q A berty72 Call 150.00 375.00 1830.00 56pomp Fold dovahkin1 Fold steelrod All-in 3912.50 4287.50 0.00 anfieldace Fold joebig16 Fold berty72 All-in 1830.00 6117.50 0.00 steelrod Unmatched bet 1932.50 4185.00 1932.50 berty72 Show K J steelrod Show Q A Flop 9 Q 8 Turn K River 6 berty72 Win Pair of Kings 4185.00 4185.00
hand 3
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancejoebig16 Small blind 75.00 75.00 3405.00 berty72 Big blind 150.00 225.00 4035.00 Your hole cards Q A 56pomp Fold dovahkin1 Fold steelrod All-in 1932.50 2157.50 0.00 anfieldace Fold joebig16 Fold berty72 Call 1782.50 3940.00 2252.50 berty72 Show J K steelrod Show Q A Flop 3 3 6 Turn J River 8 berty72 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 3s 3940.00 6192.50
run better one day lol
on the positive side of things i was able to make it into the main and i did take a gamble at the end with K8 because my good stack was depleted when a few had played the MTT like a one meant to win, allowing other table shortys to get more chance of making it through.
in my eyes the limper that is the biggest trouble is the one who is a weak maniac
in other words the type that limpes frequently, then post flop he'll constantly be doing min bets hoping you do the raise, these are the type that are the biggest issue
.
the one thing with limpers is they are such weak players, they want very cheap flop but the trouble with that is they now have an issue at attempting to get value when they hit so what they'll do is weak frequently they'll min bet them like they min bet the other stuff, the oone thing they very rarely seem to do raise large as bluffs.
as we all know these fish and limpers have a massive range so if you make a cbet there is a good chance they will fold, the danger is when they do hit they will start trapping, chips are very important so rather than getting lots of value from them chasing hand it will be much better to do the same play yourself and weak bet, min bet as the blinds get large
firstly i got myself into the Bh via a semi alone, won £25 in HP so decided to use that for a semi into the mega roller and now i've won £88 in that
jordz166040001£1422.20 + £431.23 Head Prizes9£119.05mattprawn02£820.50 + £191.44 Head Prizes12 UNCLE_PAT03£497.77 + £182.64 Head Prizes10
Cheers
Matt
FT was an epic battle 3 way for a long time....
Well done Matt ( great cash) and Craig, Misty and Hendrik too.
Had an awful night, played 3 tourneys, was playing very solid, when it came to the crunch got it in good 3 times and lost every one on the river.
GRAND TOTAL £116,499.30
2013 £161,766.23